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THE iDOLM@STER => THE iDOLM@STER 2 => Topic started by: Keiotic on April 11, 2010, 12:55:09 pm

Title: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Keiotic on April 11, 2010, 12:55:09 pm
Looks like someone at Namco Bandai let slip some good news.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/11/idolmster-2-due-on-xbox-360-in-2011/

Wonder when they'll officially announce it? TGS?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 11, 2010, 02:07:05 pm
lol Sankaku jin's blog.

But if we are to talk about a confirmation date, TGS does seem to be a good time (believing that it will come out in 2011).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: OverlordIX on April 11, 2010, 02:31:34 pm
Awesome stuff! Lets see what can be pulled of this time round. lolz
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on April 11, 2010, 02:50:12 pm
No PS3 version? That Sucks!  :(

But on the bright side, we finally have another idolm@ster game coming out! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 11, 2010, 04:19:27 pm
I believe they're going to release info on July 3rd-4th, along with the live show that they're having around that time.

...My boyfriend reads GoNintendo, and that's what it said on that site. If it's wrong, don't shoot me please XD

and no PS3 Version? *dies* Bandai-Namco, whyyyy ; ;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 11, 2010, 04:51:00 pm
and no PS3 Version? *dies* Bandai-Namco, whyyyy ; ;
Marketing strategy. Or at least that's what I believe. Who knows, and to be honest, it's probably better that way.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 11, 2010, 04:51:57 pm
Marketing strategy. Or at least that's what I believe. Who knows, and to be honest, it's probably better that way.
I unno, it seems to me more people would buy the game if they had more ways to get it...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 11, 2010, 04:57:35 pm
This showed up on a list of games that'll come to xbox 360. This does not mean iDOLM@STER 2 will be xbox 360 exclusive based on the info so far. So if I were you, I'd wait till TGS. All this means is that iM@S 2 is aiming towards an early 2011 release.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 11, 2010, 05:05:02 pm
I dunno, it seems to me more people would buy the game if they had more ways to get it...
1) Part of marketing strategy. You'll be forced to get a console just to play the game. And to make sure your choice wasn't a waste, there'd be other games for you to buy for the 360 (notice the number of exclusive of the 360 compared to the PS3).
2) Checking the list of all current PS3 games, this game will probably be lost along the titles currently for the PS3.

Either way, I'm not doubting its PS3 release, but I said that it's probably better if it didn't come there.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 11, 2010, 05:06:50 pm
1) Part of marketing strategy. You'll be forced to get a console just to play the game. And to make sure your choice wasn't a waste, there'd be other games for you to buy for the 360 (notice the number of exclusive of the 360 compared to the PS3).
2) Checking the list of all current PS3 games, this game will probably be lost along the titles currently for the PS3.

Either way, I'm not doubting its PS3 release, but I said that it's probably better if it didn't come there.
Even so, it's not like Bandai-Namco gets money from the purchase of an Xbox 360 console. They just get money for the game, yeah?

Ahh, well. Still got my fingers crossed for TGS.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 11, 2010, 05:20:41 pm
Even so, it's not like Bandai-Namco gets money from the purchase of an Xbox 360 console. They just get money for the game, yeah?
I forgot to add the symbiotic relationship that strategy forms, but yeah. >.<

Anyway, we can hope. Right now, we can only wait for the truth.

PS: The source from that Sankaku article was from Jin's blog, the same place where YARUO comments, (XD) so let's not take that too seriously, guys.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on April 11, 2010, 05:24:44 pm
Enjoy your beta test, the PS3 will get the real thing... (This coming from a 360-only user)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 11, 2010, 05:43:26 pm
Verily.

I have full confidence in Namco Bandai's latest beta testing strategies and will wait for the superior, complete version.

Better if it was 360 only? Please, don't make me laugh.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on April 11, 2010, 06:40:39 pm
Ah, finally something to work forward to. ;D I hope to hear an official announcement at TGS, too.

Just putting this out there, but it would be a smart business move of Namco to bring the game to PS3, whether exclusive or not, seeing as it's much more popular in Japan than the 360. Or they can pull off the ultimate trolling technique: Idolmaster 2for the Wii.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on April 11, 2010, 06:54:33 pm
Release on both consoles, providing each of them exclusive contents and unique limited version privileges,  then no matter what all of us will have no choice but to take out our wallet and pay for both  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on April 11, 2010, 10:18:19 pm
Or they can pull off the ultimate trolling technique: Idolmaster 2for the Wii.

Don't even say that!

If it comes out for the 360 and PS3 well, i'm going to be very poor.... I'm still trying to pay that 1k+ of dlc for the 360.  Unless they don't have exclusive contents then I will most likely stick to my 360 for dlc only while PS3 just to have.

Make you wonder will it be with our old 765 idols?  961 idols I would look forward to, 876 idols not really...  Maybe they could just start with a whole new cast that has nothing related to the others.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: AweOfShe on April 11, 2010, 11:03:11 pm
I don't particularly care what console it comes out for (since I am a consumer-whore that will probably end up with any and every version), but I do so LOVE reading the tremendous amounts of Anonymous butt-hurt comments on Sankaku. :P

But yeah, after Eternal Sonata and Tales of Vesperia, I wouldn't be surprised if NBGI did release a superior PS3 version down the road.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Keiotic on April 11, 2010, 11:53:10 pm
I don't particularly care what console it comes out for

I concur.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 12, 2010, 12:20:10 am
Make you wonder will it be with our old 765 idols?  961 idols I would look forward to, 876 idols not really...  Maybe they could just start with a whole new cast that has nothing related to the others.
I know that it was said a while ago (loooong while ago) that the 961 idols would be in the new game. However, I don't think they said anything about the 765 or 876 idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 12, 2010, 02:37:49 am
Full 961Pro cast confirmed, with new idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on April 12, 2010, 06:18:24 am
WII VERSION!!!!!
There should be a Wii version for shiggles.

But if anything else, I'm guessing every idol released so far would be available (961 and 876 included I hope)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on April 12, 2010, 06:32:25 am
Well since the tentative title is idolmaster 2, I guess everybody is comming back. It will probably revolve more around the Ai, Ryo, and Eri. I hope the story will be about them getting into 765 so that the others will be playable as well.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on April 12, 2010, 08:28:45 am
The closest to idolmaster on the Wii is that Happy Dance Game with Here We Go!!

Full 961Pro cast confirmed, with new idols.

I would take this for sure mainly for Takane.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 12, 2010, 12:27:46 pm
I don't particularly care what console it comes out for
*Seconds the motion*

I know that it was said a while ago (loooong while ago) that the 961 idols would be in the new game. However, I don't think they said anything about the 765 or 876 idols.
Nothing official has been said. What you remember was probably our wild mass guessing.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on April 12, 2010, 12:57:34 pm
Release on both consoles, providing each of them exclusive contents and unique limited version privileges,  then no matter what all of us will have no choice but to take out our wallet and pay for both  ;D
Now you've got me thinking this would happen, only because it's Namco.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 12, 2010, 02:01:10 pm
Nothing official has been said. What you remember was probably our wild mass guessing.
I'm pretty sure they said that the 961 idols would be in it, back when they just started '2nd Vision' stuff as a whole. Like, 98.4% sure. They had a live, and a believe they announced it then.
Now you've got me thinking this would happen, only because it's Namco.
Given their track record with stealing our wallets' contents, if they think of that idea, they'd do it in a heartbeat XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 12, 2010, 02:28:48 pm
I'm pretty sure they said that the 961 idols would be in it, back when they just started '2nd Vision' stuff as a whole. Like, 98.4% sure. They had a live, and a believe they announced it then.
I probably missed that, but the closest thing that proves Hibiki and Takane in it is the storyline of 2nd Vision. *coughDearlyStarscough*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on April 12, 2010, 06:02:30 pm
What is this Deadly Stars you speak of? 

I'm also up for which ever system the game ends up for as long its iDOLM@STER.  Well, ok.... just not Wii or iPhone...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on April 12, 2010, 06:45:47 pm
Full 961Pro cast confirmed, with new idols.
Where did you hear about this? :o
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 12, 2010, 09:20:03 pm
I confirmed it myself.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on April 12, 2010, 09:39:44 pm
I confirmed it myself.

Well that's bad. I mean 765 has enough idols as it is. Hell, the game has enough idols as it is. They might as well start calling it iM@S48.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on April 13, 2010, 01:28:33 am
bust a morning musume
fire half the idols or make them retire
keep haruka for copyright and hire an entire new cast so we can kill ourselves over how dumb bandani namco is.

though its quite obvious, interview with gamiP; when the camera guy asked him if theres gonna be new idols he paused for a good 5 seconds and said i cant spoil anything.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on April 13, 2010, 03:19:34 am
I don't care which system they use because i have both.
What's important is they release it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 13, 2010, 05:35:08 am
In all seriousness though, I do remember back when they interviewed that guy, he mentioned a full 961Pro cast for the next game.

Which is good. 876fangroup can burn to the ground.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on April 13, 2010, 06:27:19 am
Idolm@ster 2...for the iPad 8)

I'm looking forward to seeing the screenshots when they come out.  It'll be fun to pick apart the pictures and take a look at them.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on April 13, 2010, 08:51:42 am
In all seriousness though, I do remember back when they interviewed that guy, he mentioned a full 961Pro cast for the next game.

Which is good. 876fangroup can burn to the ground.

indeed he has promised that

also, you cant burn something that doesn't even exist
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 13, 2010, 12:07:21 pm
Ah, sorry. So very true.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on April 13, 2010, 06:08:33 pm
Just saying, but denying something doesn't exist when it clearly does is fucking stupid and ignorant. If you don't like a product, that's fine, just as long as you acknowledge it's there. On that note, we'll just have to see what becomes of the 876 crew. If Namco were to make just the one game for 876, it would be pretty pointless to do so. Seeing as Im@s DS was the first phase of the 2nd Vision project, 876 must be there for a reason.

ANYWAYS

In all seriousness though, I do remember back when they interviewed that guy, he mentioned a full 961Pro cast for the next game.
This should be quite interesting if 961 does get a full lineup of idols.
Just a bit of speculation, but... I think if there are full idol lineups for multiple production companies (765, 961, and possibly 876), you get to be a producer for one of the companies, and from there you chose your idol or group.
If that's the case, you're going to need some serious memory to have all that data... *coughbluraycough*

U MAD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on April 13, 2010, 06:15:00 pm
Just saying, but denying something doesn't exist when it clearly does is fucking stupid and ignorant. We'll just have to see what fate lies for the 876 crew.
Indeed.
Scotty goes too far sometimes.

Anyway.

TGS this year seems fun. Couldn't go last year since I was down with the flu, but this year...
The 5th Anniversary Live might reveal stuff too?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 13, 2010, 09:53:06 pm
Just saying, but denying something doesn't exist when it clearly does is fucking stupid and ignorant. If you don't like a product, that's fine, just as long as you acknowledge it's there. On that note, we'll just have to see what becomes of the 876 crew. If Namco were to make just the one game for 876, it would be pretty pointless to do so. Seeing as Im@s DS was the first phase of the 2nd Vision project, 876 must be there for a reason.
Someone had to say it, all we had to know was when XDD
ANYWAYS
This should be quite interesting if 961 does get a full lineup of idols.
Just a bit of speculation, but... I think if there are full idol lineups for multiple production companies (765, 961, and possibly 876), you get to be a producer for one of the companies, and from there you chose your idol or group.
If that's the case, you're going to need some serious memory to have all that data... *coughbluraycough*
That sounds like the greatest idea for iM@S 2 I've heard so far. We'd get to keep all of our favorite idols, and then get more new idols...the best of both worlds XD

Mind you, I love the 765 and 961 idols (the 876 ones, too, though I didn't like that gameplay in the least). At the same time, though, wouldn't it be exciting to see new idols? As long as they...you know, don't suck.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on April 14, 2010, 04:38:10 am
Wow why does all the big news happen when im not around its a conspiracy by namco

 I gotta start saving. This is just wow but i guess you all did predict this a while back hopefully the PS3 part comes  true as well.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 14, 2010, 06:46:12 pm
I doubt of all things, 961 would exist in iM@S 2 (better yet, they exist no more).

Seeing as Im@s DS was the first phase of the 2nd Vision project, 876 must be there for a reason.
My theory, iM@S 2's storyline will happen before or around DS. If Namco thinks that we are as smart as they think we are, we'd already know what to look forward to.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 14, 2010, 10:00:07 pm
I doubt of all things, 961 would exist in iM@S 2 (better yet, they exist no more).

In all seriousness though, I do remember back when they interviewed that guy, he mentioned a full 961Pro cast for the next game.

You're not GamiP. You're not allowed to say 961Pro doesn't exist.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on April 14, 2010, 10:02:31 pm
My theory, iM@S 2's storyline will happen before or around DS. If Namco thinks that we are as smart as they think we are, we'd already know what to look forward to.

there is no such story line, there will be no story line, just a setting
you make your own storyline
like the first game.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 15, 2010, 12:06:17 am
You're not GamiP. You're not allowed to say 961Pro doesn't exist.
As much as Kuroi-dono may object, I think meant that...since this game is likely to take place after SP, there wouldn't technically be a 961Pro.

...unless they had more idols than Takane, Hibiki, and Miki. *dramatic twist* I don't know if the end of the game involved 961 shutting down, or if those 3 just jumped agencies.

Even so. We know the 961 idols will be in iM@S 2. What we don't know is if they will be part of 961 or not (but honestly, it seems unlikely that they will be).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 15, 2010, 01:37:51 pm
You're not GamiP. You're not allowed to say 961Pro doesn't exist.
So are you to say DS doesn't exist.

Also.....

I doubt of all things, 961 would exist in iM@S 2 (better yet, they exist no more).
My theory, iM@S 2's storyline will happen before or around DS. If Namco thinks that we are as smart as they think we are, we'd already know what to look forward to.

As much as Kuroi-dono may object, I think meant that...since this game is likely to take place after SP, there wouldn't technically be a 961Pro.

...unless they had more idols than Takane, Hibiki, and Miki. *dramatic twist* I don't know if the end of the game involved 961 shutting down, or if those 3 just jumped agencies.
Well, the first part I theorized that it takes place on another timeline but for the latter, that's what I think the case truly is.

Anyway, more on your spoiler, Kuroi fires the idols after losing the final IU, thanks to his policy to keep anyone who is 'perfect' and fire anyone else.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on April 15, 2010, 03:52:44 pm
But DS doesn't exist.

Regardless, 961 will be back for sure. There's no doubt about it, so everyone should just stop their 961 being/not being there theories, lest you want to look uninformed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 15, 2010, 05:39:22 pm
But DS doesn't exist.
*points back to Cien's last post because I don't feel like being a broken record*

Regardless, 961 will be back for sure. There's no doubt about it, so everyone should just stop their 961 being/not being there theories, lest you want to look uninformed.
What for? There's no reason for anyone to NOT make theories. They're just theories, and more importantly, it's proof of fans being fans. >.>
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on April 15, 2010, 05:54:51 pm
*points back to Cien's last post because I don't feel like being a broken record*

sorry there is no such thing as im@s DS
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 15, 2010, 06:23:27 pm
Geez, give it a rest, already, guys. EVERYTHING EXISTS.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on April 16, 2010, 05:14:59 am
^Thats right this includes the UFO i saw a while back but thats another story^ (i kid of course and take no side on the DS debate)

I don't think anyone's asked this yet but do you guys think Awakened Miki will be returning
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on April 16, 2010, 11:00:45 am
That depends, will there be an Awakened Miki route
for that matter, what if there were alternate routes for everyone?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 16, 2010, 12:54:23 pm
I don't think anyone's asked this yet but do you guys think Awakened Miki will be returning
Possibly, if the game would be like the 360 version.

for that matter, what if there were alternate routes for everyone?

Dark Haruka!! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on April 16, 2010, 09:21:19 pm
iM@S DS most likely does not exist in terms of being canon.  It pretty much exaggerated every character and made some contradictions (Azusa having a sister when she said she was an only child in the other games, Miki's not awakened but that's also debatable).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on April 16, 2010, 10:06:06 pm
(Azusa having a sister when she said she was an only child in the other games, Miki's not awakened but that's also debatable).
Yumeko adressing Azusa as her elder sister is her way of showing admiration towards Azusa.
Nowhere in the game has it been stated that they're siblings, whether it's blood-related or not.

Quote from: iM@S wiki
She calls Azusa Miura her "older sister" because of her admiration to her as her senpai.

Watch more animes/play more games with (potential) yuri couplings and/or girl-only school settings.

The way I see it, iM@S DS might or might not've happened if you look at it from a bigger perspective;
Assuming iM@S DS did in fact happen one should assume that the 360/SP version happened as well, but in the way that not every idol started out on the same date; I believe that the DS cast only debutted a few months later then some idols.
This'll fix the problem why certain idols are less popular/famous then others *coughChihayacoughwaytooexaggeratedcough*.
Also, let's assume that SP happened because of a certain duo being in the agency.
Again, because if we assume that DS happened and because we assumed that not every idol started out at the same time we'll assume that only 3 765Pro idols beat Takane, Hibiki and Miki at the IU.

When you start out in iM@S DS with either Ryo, Eri or Ai, every 765Pro idol are all atleast in gameplay week 20 or so; all 765Pro idols're atleast known and atleast Rank C-B'ish.
Eri, Ryo and Ai are all working towards the Idol Ultimate, as well as all other 765Pro idols that haven't won the IU or some big audition yet.

Because you play a Producer in every other game and because you only meet up with your idol once a week, there's enough room for the DS cast to co-exist in the same time-frame as the other games; you can't encounter the same idol on every week day.
This leaves enough room for the an idol to meet up with her Producer, and because the Producer never met any of the 876Pro idols you won't see/ hear them.
I'm not sure yet if I'll apply this theory to the multiple rookie producers theory or the 1 iDOLM@STER Producer theory but that's not important for this discussion.

Or in other words, the settings for starting out at iM@S DS in my opinion would be something in the lines of;
3 characters cleared story mode of SP
A couple of characters might or might not've cleared 'Free-Produce' or the 360 game yet.
The rest of the idols're in week 20+ in either Free Produce or the 360 game.

After above conditions're met the DS games happen thus giving enough leeway for the idols to coexist in the same world.

Tldr;
Cheese
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on April 16, 2010, 10:18:58 pm
Yumeko adressing Azusa as her elder sister is her way of showing admiration towards Azusa.
Nowhere in the game has it been stated that they're siblings, whether it's blood-related or not.

Watch more animes/play more games with (potential) yuri couplings and/or girl-only school settings.
I remember the wiki entry stating otherwise months ago, and I haven't checked it in months.  I didn't pay too much attention when I got to Azusa's chapter in Ryo's route.  Sorry.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 17, 2010, 11:38:59 am
I remember the wiki entry stating otherwise months ago, and I haven't checked it in months.  I didn't pay too much attention when I got to Azusa's chapter in Ryo's route.  Sorry.

Some entries in the Wiki were assumptions that had no basis (including that one about Yumeko's personality being changed in the last minute, but that's somewhat another story). They were brought up somewhere around here a long time ago.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on April 17, 2010, 12:42:49 pm
I'd like the setting of the first game. Also the DS game(Shota Traps, Spoiled Kids, Underage Moms, Basement Dwellers.) sucks so i wish that it won't have any relations on the next game ~_~.
Assuming the 360,PSP and DS games Namco really F'ed up the settings.
I THINK the next game will have a different setting which will F up everything again.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on April 17, 2010, 02:14:26 pm
The ViDaVo which comes with DS states that Kuroi suddenly disappeared from the front lines of the industry, which can only mean one thing...

He is coming back with a better, improved and much more deadly 961 Pro.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on April 17, 2010, 02:25:53 pm
The ViDaVo which comes with DS states that Kuroi suddenly disappeared from the front lines of the industry, which can only mean one thing...

He is coming back with a better, improved and much more deadly 961 Pro.
Ominous. But... what could be more deadly than Miki+Hibiki+Takane?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 17, 2010, 02:40:35 pm
I'd like the setting of the first game. Also the DS game(Shota Traps, Spoiled Kids, Underage Moms, Basement Dwellers.) sucks so i wish that it won't have any relations on the next game ~_~.
Assuming the 360,PSP and DS games Namco really F'ed up the settings.
I THINK the next game will have a different setting which will F up everything again.
That's a pretty exaggerated way of stating things.

Setting? All games seem to have the same setting. They just happen to take part in different situations (what I meant by storyline). 360 playing a producer-idol route straight, SP with a producer-idol-rival route, DS with the idol route.

With regards to the character stereotypes, not every character is suited for everyone's taste. Or some people going through a deconstructed life of an idol and her (or his (Ryo)) life as an idol.

It's all in your opinion, so yeah.
He is coming back with a better, improved and much more deadly 961 Pro.
This is just me, but I prefer he doesn't come back. Not with the same personality I've figured out about him, at least. :/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 17, 2010, 02:43:47 pm
The ViDaVo which comes with DS states that Kuroi suddenly disappeared from the front lines of the industry, which can only mean one thing...

He is coming back with a better, improved and much more deadly 961 Pro.
Kuroi would, wouldn't he?

Well, he's the antagonist well designed so he tries everyone's nerves a bit so hey. Him coming back would motivate you to raise your idols better to beat him again XD

Though, you'd have 3 people that were behind the scenes of his madness on your side.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on April 17, 2010, 03:27:09 pm
Thing with Kuroi is, as you play SP you realize he really isn't the huge, ominous antagonist they promoted him to be, and instead ends up being just another small bump on the long road to <s>hell</s> stardom.

So he has potential to get bigger and start kicking more ass.

With, dunno, 覇王エンジェル by his side maybe. After all, they ARE the strongest NPC unit in Arcadem@s...
(Speaking of which, yeah, I recently started playing Arcade. A big money sink too.)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on April 17, 2010, 04:54:50 pm
Never played the arcade game so I can't comment on the difficulty, but aren't the Haou Angels like 1 image level below these

(http://i42.tinypic.com/5cgbxg.jpg)
Stupid Relations manga using that name..
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on April 17, 2010, 06:56:46 pm
^ The Haou/Maou Angels are in SP, too, I think. They're the S-rank rivals you go against sometimes in the normal auditions.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on April 18, 2010, 08:00:07 am
iDOLM@STER prequel!  Kotori playable!

Its really hard for me to like anybody from iM@S DS...  None of them reaches out to me into really liking them and I really dislike Ryo(coming from somebody who loves traps) due to fact was just made "trap" for sales.  Who knows what will come out of iDOLM@STER 2.  I just hope its something for everybody can enjoy.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on April 18, 2010, 12:46:26 pm
Thing with Kuroi is, as you play SP you realize he really isn't the huge, ominous antagonist they promoted him to be, and instead ends up being just another small bump on the long road to hell stardom.

So he has potential to get bigger and start kicking more ass.

Fixed. And I will expect no less (but still prefer more than) of an antagonist like this man (http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/anotherbig666/imgs/4/8/489f457b.JPG), complete with the plot twist that he was the one who inspired <insert someone here> to take on the life of <insert career here>.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tokome on May 06, 2010, 06:29:19 am
Think this was mentioned before on some other thread, but how about Mai? Her story might be interesting to follow. Although it may receive a higher rating than the others.

Oh, and about getting new idols, we probably shouldn't anticipate much. It could just be Pokemon all over again: the original ones were great, the next generation were good, and the rest range from okay to suckish. Namco's most likely going to milk the cash cow and according to TvTropes, "NAMCO HATES YOU."
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sengar Zonvolt on June 02, 2010, 04:33:03 am
It would be interesting if they added "random" idols, who would be assembled from a series of parts and controlled by the CPU in the auditions, so as to avoid a Idol competing against a clone of herself.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on June 02, 2010, 06:30:31 pm
It would be interesting if they added "random" idols, who would be assembled from a series of parts and controlled by the CPU in the auditions, so as to avoid a Idol competing against a clone of herself.
What do you mean? You don't even see the other idols in auditions besides their show-name in a sidebar, an idol-icon in the lineup, and if they do any memory appeals. It's just their face, really XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sengar Zonvolt on June 02, 2010, 07:01:45 pm
What do you mean? You don't even see the other idols in auditions besides their show-name in a sidebar, an idol-icon in the lineup, and if they do any memory appeals. It's just their face, really XD
I dunno, maybe being able to watch the other's idol performance would be great for inmersion
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: quadrain on June 16, 2010, 12:41:46 am
Hmm so the Nintendo 3DS has been announced with adjusting 3D experience.


Azusa and Takane will be the selling point XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on June 17, 2010, 11:00:27 am
Idolm@ster will never show up on the ds.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on June 17, 2010, 11:17:45 pm
I only promote 3DS iM@S if it can be better than the myth that is iM@S DS. XD

That being said, though, I don't think any of the "new" things that showed up at E3 Microsoft & Sony-wise would be anything useful in iM@S XD Just pop that baby on the PS3 and 360 and we will be happy fans.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on June 22, 2010, 12:55:45 pm
iM@S HP has a strange countdown thing, it might just be for the 5th live but meh we can always hope for a big announcement during the live..

http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on June 22, 2010, 04:40:22 pm
Going back to the first page of this topic, I think there's supposed to be an announcement for the game at the live.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on June 22, 2010, 04:50:10 pm
The countdown banner images just if anyone's interested.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/Countdown.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on June 25, 2010, 02:51:32 am
Seems like there'll be no new 765 characters then, huh?
Good. I don't want any.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on June 25, 2010, 02:57:11 am
No Ai, Eri, or Ryo, huh? *shot by non-believers of iM@SDS*

Having all of the 'old' idols in the game to play as well as the 961 idols sounds pretty good to me. Though, a part of me would love to see Ai, Eri, and Ryo in there, too. (Especially as a trio, since the DS game was ABOUT the trio of idols and yet you couldn't put them into the same performances *coughcough*) Didn't like the DS game. Did like the characters.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on June 25, 2010, 07:23:37 am
Alright... finally my turn to speculate. Now that I can finally register... feel the wrath that is my pent-up raging speculation!!!

System

I'm almost positive this is going to go 360. As far as I know, though, Idolm@ster doesn't have any competition (Dream Club, I don't think, made a dent in any of their sales), and I think there's really nothing that's chaining them to the one system which any new fans probably don't own. Before I'm sure it was just development time that made them not develop for the PS3 (it was launch for these systems), but this time I think it's probable, slightly more probable if we're talking a year past the 360 release.

I find it interesting that an Arcade release hasn't been announced. I would personally do that at latest 6 months in advance, but if we're looking at an early 2011 release of the 360 version (and the fact that this is Namco), I would say that there will be no arcade release. With the recent trend to incorporate more character development and such (I'd even go so far as to say that DS was their experiment to see how much plot and casual they could bring in), I'm even more confident, since those don't go together well in an arcade.

Setting

I think 876 is probably in, in some form or another. As random idols you fight (name only appearances), I think it's as good as settled. As NPCs, I think it's likely. As actual producable idols... only a merger (765 and 876, not Namco and... uhm... you pronounce those the same, right?) can make this happen, I think. The question is, were any new people brought in by DS, and if so, is Namco willing to keep them? The answer to the latter is definitely yes, but I don't know about the answer to the former.

Given the pictures in the countdown, though... I think all our familiar 765 idols are in. Fans of any game will want to see more of their familiar faces doing what they do best in a sequel and you're pretty much forced to cater to an already existing, rabid fanbase. Of course, you'll have to add in new faces to keep things fresh. 10 idols already... given how I think the idol select screen should look like with more characters, I think two or three new idols would be good (random select can always take up a slot). One or two if 876 idols are producable.

If we were to break Idolm@ster free of its one-on-one arcade-style roots, though... it'd take a lot of effort, but more interaction between idols would really change the direction the series is taking to bring it more inline with the plot-based trends we've been seeing lately.

961 I would say is back. Kuroi's an already established antagonist that everyone loves to hate, and he hasn't really been developed aside from the fact that he knows Takagi, knows Kotori (or so I've been told), and that he's a massive jerk. There's so much more that can be done here, and I think this was on purpose. Kotori herself... is possible, but I think part of her appeal is that she tragically never gets to be an idol, despite... everything else. ;_;

So, my final prediction in this is: previous 765 idols are in, former 961 idols are in 765. Expect to see a lot more interaction between (very possibly) themselves and (definitely) the producer. 876 idols play a supporting role. Two new idols. No Kotori. (I have to admit this. ;_;)

Gameplay

I'd say the same as SP, with the possible exception that Idol Ultimate prelims would give more fans, and the game might force you to Idol Ultimate prelims if it would rank you up (so it won't burn a week). I could say more, but... Idolm@ster is inherently balanced, and anything just different from the norm would be put in Special auditions, I think. So expect to see new ones.

Performance lesson might be reimagined, since I think Namco would've gotten a lot of complaints on that one.


That's all my speculation before an actual (possible) announcement next weekend. My frothing demand for this game cannot be contained!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Moroboshi on June 25, 2010, 08:11:39 am
Kotori herself... is possible, but I think part of her appeal is that she tragically never gets to be an idol, despite... everything else. ;_;
Considering Kotori is often sold as a "former idol" that didn't quite make it in certain novelm@s series, I'm surprised namco hasn't attempted to cash in on that (idolm@ster: Episode 0, anyone?). Piyo-chan has a fanbase of her own for a reason, after all.

That being said, I do see the current idols (765 and 961) all under one umbrella. It's easier to pull off from a development standpoint. While it would be really nice to have several agencies for our fledgeling producer to work for, it might be a little too much given the amount of work it would take to pull that off. You'd also have a weird unbalanced feel (nine girls in 765, three girls in 961, three girls in 876), meaning you'd have to shuffle some girls around for even distribution (aside from any new girls that might be introduced), which the fans might not take to at all (the same way they wouldn't take to any of the current idols being removed entirely).

The only other thing I can think of is the possibility of the game being an entirely different story of its own, with the characters being reinvented (again) to fit in the new story.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on June 25, 2010, 02:17:50 pm
(765 and 876, not Namco and... uhm... you pronounce those the same, right?)
876=Banamu or Bandai Namco

That aside, I still don't know the difference between NBGI and BNGI.
Some games are marked with the first and others are marked with the latter.


me thinks Kotori has amnesia but who cares.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on June 25, 2010, 02:52:18 pm
The only other thing I can think of is the possibility of the game being an entirely different story of its own, with the characters being reinvented (again) to fit in the new story.
This is where I place my money. I mean, the 360 and PSP games pulled this (for the latter, 961's appearance and Miki jumping to there). And L4U and DS seemed like it was a side story/what if plot.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on June 26, 2010, 06:41:09 pm
Going back to the first page of this topic, I think there's supposed to be an announcement for the game at the live.
Ahaha~ Excelent. Hopefully, there is. And it will be sweet.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on June 27, 2010, 12:42:20 am
876=Banamu or Bandai Namco

That aside, I still don't know the difference between NBGI and BNGI.
Some games are marked with the first and others are marked with the latter.

Yeah, I jest, I jest.

But according to http://d.hatena.ne.jp/matakimika/20080327, at one point the wiki article said:

Quote from: Japanese Wikipedia
海外ではナムコの知名度が高いため、英語社名ではナムコを先に置いている。
In other countries, Namco's name is very well known, so the English name of the company has Namco coming first.

So... name recognition in international editions? Can anyone think of a time when a Japanese game was released under the name NBGI?

I guess we could even compare:
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/
http://www.namcobandaigames.com/

Japan is not an option for choosing your country in the second link.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Amakase on June 27, 2010, 04:50:11 am
Going back to the first page of this topic, I think there's supposed to be an announcement for the game at the live.

Yeah, there is supposed to be an announcement at the live. The staff column at http://www.idolmaster.jp/blog/2010/04/5th-anniversarythe-world-is-al.html (http://www.idolmaster.jp/blog/2010/04/5th-anniversarythe-world-is-al.html)) says in it:

Quote
今回のこのライブイベントにて、「PROJECT IM@S 2nd VISION」の次の動き――つまり、みんなが待っているアイマスの次回作についての発表を予定しております。

Which translates to "At this live event,  we plan to announce our next plans for 'PROJECT IM@S 2nd Vision', i.e. the next IM@S work you're all waiting for."
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on June 27, 2010, 07:52:43 am
今回のこのライブイベントにて、「PROJECT IM@S 2nd VISION」の次の動き――つまり、みんなが待っているアイマスの次回作についての発表を予定しております。

This also translates to, "We're announcing what 99% of the fans are thinking is up next. We're not saying that 99% of the fans think the game is next."

This one's decided, I think.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 01:24:35 pm
EVERYONE READY FOR THAT ANNOUNCEMENT IN LESS THAN AN HOUR?!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 02:17:41 pm
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/

Hit the site up for a brand spanking new iM@S logo and a confirmation of iDOLM@STER 2 for spring 2011.

Idol silhouettes, counting 13 of them. Could be new idols or from what I'm seeing, new hairstyles or older versions of some idols.

Must squint harder.
EDIT:
Silly me, didn't even see the PV. I'm so good at this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKr8rSGt4sk
ANALYSIS


.....Xbox360.
For now hopefully. Beta version on 360 first and all that jazz NBGI likes to pull.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 03, 2010, 03:17:12 pm
I was surprised when they changed their appearances. I thought that, by the end of the video, I'd dislike some of them, but I actually like them all (Though I didn't recognize Makoto at first. Woops). And Ami and Mami as separate idols, finally!! *confettis*

I don't like the lonely "Xbox360" stamp in the corner of everything, but other than that, this game looks all good.

Also, that song-ranking tidbit needs to be a list of in-game songs. |3
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 03, 2010, 03:25:07 pm
Looking really good.

Communication events that play out like Idol Dramas: HNNNNG

Older Ami and Mami: Double HNNNNNNNNG

Azuza with short hair: Triple HNNNNNNNNNNNNG

Oppai Physics are back: Holy Mother of all that is worthy, thank you so much for granting this pervert his wish.

NB, if you can let Producers do a pai-touch with Kinect, I will worship you forever.

Will be waiting with great interest for the release next year. I hope my Box can stay alive till then.

....Oh, screw it, I'll probably get a Slim just for this game next year.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 03, 2010, 03:32:05 pm
Wow! They really did change the appearances and hair styles of a lot of characters. Ami looks better than before. Ritsuko looks a lot more attractive than before. Azusa's hair is shorter. Iori's new hair style looks pretty nice. Even Makoto looks more attractive. 

Yukiho-chan is still the same girl I know and love!

You know what, I think I might as well get a 360 since it looks like it's only for the Xbox 360.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 03:35:13 pm
Most definitely an Xbox 360 exclusive.
Comes with the now standard exclusive to 360 CM:
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/xbox360tokumeika/

....so yeah, either this could play out as a timed exclusive, or there wont be a PS3 version of iDOLM@STER for a very, very long time.

Also, seems Ritsuko and Azusa retired, making room for Takane and Hibiki.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 03, 2010, 03:39:01 pm
Most definitely an Xbox 360 exclusive.
Comes with the now standard exclusive to 360 CM:
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/xbox360tokumeika/

....so yeah, either this could play out as a timed exclusive, or there wont be a PS3 version of iDOLM@STER for a very, very long time.
...that was one of the scariest CMs I've ever seen o_o

Can still hope it's a 'timed' exclusive (after all, games have made it to the PS3 after being Xbox-exclusive before. I know of at -least- one XD)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on July 03, 2010, 03:57:07 pm
I have no words.  I mean.  This is so beautiful ;_;

-Makoto looks fantastic.
-The twins being older is like 8D  *I'm tempted to go do that free produce right now I've been meaning to do with them >____>
-IORIIIIIIIIIIIIIII :3
-Yayoi still looks the same but I suppose that's good.  Who would want to change anything with her anyways.  I hope at some point in the game we get to see her with her hair down.

I'm hoping for a PS3 release.  If not, this might be worth an xbox purchase...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 03, 2010, 04:00:59 pm
is iori supposed to be retired as well? that would be sad :(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 04:03:33 pm
Nah, she's good to go. Don't worry.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kiosdaboi on July 03, 2010, 04:06:16 pm
Lhool, Iori looks just like Aisaka Taiga with her new hair style.
I liked the old Makoto better! I can live with the changes I guess.

Also, "See new Ami/Mami"
Hi there older twins.
>Their voices are still the same
I laughed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on July 03, 2010, 04:08:05 pm
That would be sad D:
Don't think that way gaize. 

But yeah she does seem closer to Taiga now haha.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 04:14:51 pm
And then she was Luise.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 03, 2010, 04:23:25 pm
NOOOOO!!!!! My twins are no longer Loli (,but become very sexy!). They become even taller than Hibiki!!!!! (while Yayoi stay the same ;D). Give me back my loli twins you Bandai Namco! XD
Actually I expect they would create "the fans audience" graphic, and hope they would have the L4U free concert function.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 03, 2010, 04:46:54 pm
http://www.4gamer.net/games/052/G005257/20100703004/ non-romanized lyrics and an article about the game, as well as some big shiny screenshots. Any Japanese-understanders find some info here?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 04:50:04 pm
Only that the producer joins half a year or so after idols make their debut and trios are more important than before.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 03, 2010, 04:52:19 pm
is it just me or did Yukiho's boobs get bigger?

Anyway, i didnt read it too carefully (give me a few minutes) but i do know that its set to release next spring and the game takes place half a year after their debut. im still kind of confused about this, considering they are supposed to all be a year older now. also, there is a bigger focus on "danketsu" or unity with the 3 girls you choose. so i guess one is the leader, and you have to work to make sure things go smoothly etc. seems like you'll be touring all of japan this time to become top idol as well. looks like azusa and ritsuko have taken the sideline as helpers this time, maybe iori too. still unannounced if they will be playable or not. maybe unlockable characters or downloadable content? only time will tell.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 03, 2010, 04:56:54 pm
Back from the 5th live, with on the spot info from GamiP.

- Set half a year later from original Im@s, where all the girls have already debuted, but hit a popularity wall. This is where you come in.
- The theme is "Unity." Hence, it's fixed as a trio, and your job is not only to take care of an individual, but also to look after a group.
- All the idols are also a year older.

Yeah, that's about it.
I have a massive headache from all the excitement.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 04:58:29 pm
While it does seem Azusa is out, if you look at her silhouette, she's not in any sort of uniform. Just a nice performance getup. So perhaps she does get to be in. Ritsuko is out though, no one likes her.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 03, 2010, 04:59:49 pm
Pizzaman did you buy the new cd? I thought about going down tomorrow (just to buy the cd) but am afraid it will sell out. Any other impressions of the live?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 03, 2010, 05:00:21 pm
Ritsuko is out though, no one likes her.
I do Ritsuko gets no love.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 03, 2010, 05:11:42 pm
Pizzaman did you buy the new cd? I thought about going down tomorrow (just to buy the cd) but am afraid it will sell out. Any other impressions of the live?
Got the CD (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/20100704001246.jpg), and they've actually got enough CDs for three days!
The only thing that sold out today were the calenders and towels.

Impressions:
- Four hours without a break, but it feels like it was over in a second.
- Juri Takita sang a LOT, which was surprising.
- No Yurishi like always :/
- Kugyuu was an obvious crowd pleaser
- NEXT LIFE was amazing, and the back dancers did a top notch job
- Takagi shachou reminding us it's nearly his birthday
- Who could have predicted that the event name was a clue for a new song...
- Oh, which they also performed live as the finale. The world is all one!!

And Scotty obviously hasn't met a lot of fellow producers...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 03, 2010, 05:12:55 pm
While it does seem Azusa is out, if you look at her silhouette, she's not in any sort of uniform. Just a nice performance getup. So perhaps she does get to be in. Ritsuko is out though, no one likes her.
It'd be a pity for her to be the only idol not to return. As much as I want her in the game, though (I must be no one, because I like her! :D), with the silhouettes appearing to be Cute & Girly costumes, the pants make it seem unlikely.

...unless it's all part of her costume.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 03, 2010, 05:16:15 pm
They've actually got enough CDs for three days!
The only thing that sold out today were the calenders.

And Scotty obviously hasn't met a lot of fellow producers...

darn, i was interested in a calendar too...

If anyone is planning on going to the live tomorrow, please let me know! I am interested in the limited CD and calendar. Unfortunately I have the JLPT test tomorrow which runs until about 16:30 so I doubt I will make it in time. I'd rather not chance it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 03, 2010, 05:28:15 pm
darn, i was interested in a calendar too...

If anyone is planning on going to the live tomorrow, please let me know! I am interested in the limited CD and calendar. Unfortunately I have the JLPT test tomorrow which runs until about 16:30 so I doubt I will make it in time. I'd rather not chance it.
Never took a JLPT test so don't know how long it is, but they start selling merchandise at 10 am, so you might be able to make it if you wake up early.

[edit]
Has anyone noticed that shachou's name has been changed to 高木順二朗?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 03, 2010, 06:13:58 pm
I am most satisfied with Makoto's new look.
72 remians 72  :-\

Back from the 5th live, with on the spot Winfo from GamiP.

- Set half a year later from original Im@s, where all the girls have already debuted, but hit a popularity wall. This is where you come in.
- The theme is "Unity." Hence, it's fixed as a trio, and your job is not only to take care of an individual, but also to look after a group.
- All the idols are also a year older.

Yeah, that's about it.
I have a massive headache from all the excitement.
That would be perfect. I really like to see interaction between idols! Think of the combination of trios the game could have... ;D

[edit]
Has anyone noticed that shachou's name has been changed to 高木順二朗?
:o...Maybe he's 順一朗's brother or son...

btw, am I the only one that who doesn't like the new logo?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on July 03, 2010, 06:23:21 pm
btw, am I the only one that who doesn't like the new logo?

Nah, I'm with you on that.  It looks a little more cartoonish in comparison to the original.  The original was more sleek.  The font on this one is way too edgy, and it looks compressed sitting next to that #2, plus I don't understand the purpose of those circle ring things but I guess they needed to include them xD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 03, 2010, 06:25:32 pm
Nah, I'm with you on that.  It looks a little more cartoonish in comparison to the original.  The original was more sleek.  The font on this one is way too edgy, and it looks compressed sitting next to that #2, plus I don't understand the purpose of those circle ring things but I guess they needed to include them xD
There are 13 stars on the rings, so I guess the stars represent the idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 03, 2010, 07:02:37 pm
God, I was so excited when I heard this news.  This is going to be one really long wait...
Also, expect PS3 release by late 2011 or early 2012.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 03, 2010, 07:11:11 pm
I moved this topic to the 360 section.
I'm sorry Ben and Scotty, at least the game is an exclusive on 360 for now ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 03, 2010, 07:13:40 pm
FFFFFFFFFFFF
the new game looks naise meng
they did an awesome job with slightly older characters
makoto looks noticable
and chihaya and yukipo now has bigger tits, what is this.
everyone has changed except for haruka, yayoi and yukipo
azusa with shorter hair, sorry cien
961 idols producing, communication event with 3 characters at once
shit looks so cash guise.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 03, 2010, 07:17:15 pm
I'm sorry Ben and Scotty, at least the game is an exclusive on 360 for now ;D
No need to apologize to me.  I'm, at the moment, a JP 360-only owner.  I'm glad at the time it's 360 only, but I can't seem to trust 360 exclusives anymore, especially when it comes to Namco.

Now, with trio-only producing, how much different communications do you think would exist now?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 03, 2010, 07:22:56 pm
...that was one of the scariest CMs I've ever seen o_o

Same here <_<

The new graphics are sweet, I like 'em a lot.
Ritsuko!Palin looks great X: (although, when I read Scotty's comment at first I went O: )
Azusa and Makoto's new look reminded me of the fan-made im@s girls side of course that's not a bad thing
... Am I the only one who doesn't notice the change in chest sizes?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 03, 2010, 07:36:04 pm
No need to apologize to me.  I'm, at the moment, a JP 360-only owner.  I'm glad at the time it's 360 only, but I can't seem to trust 360 exclusives anymore, ]especially when it comes to Namco.

Now, with trio-only producing, how much different communications do you think would exist now?
I agree with you.  Namco  :-[

With trio-only producing...Let's do a calculation.

I am bad at math, so from this calculator here:

http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html (http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html)
How many objects are there? - 13 idols
How many objects will u choose? - 3 (A trio)

There are 286 possible combinations for trios.

So if each trio has an event, there are at least 286 communications.

Anyway, I am sure that it won't be calculated this way, but it's still fun to do a little math game :P
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 03, 2010, 07:45:58 pm
Same here <_<

The new graphics are sweet, I like 'em a lot.
Ritsuko!Palin looks great X: (although, when I read Scotty's comment at first I went O: )
Azusa and Makoto's new look reminded me of the fan-made im@s girls side of course that's not a bad thing
... Am I the only one who doesn't notice the change in chest sizes?
Now that you speak of it... :o
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2h69c9y.jpg)

Especially for Azusa!
(http://i45.tinypic.com/qs7e3p.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 03, 2010, 07:59:14 pm
azusa with shorter hair, sorry cien

... I liked her long hair...
Give her a year, she can grow it back out? I mean.... when a lady cuts her hair...

Not seen dancing or singing: Azusa, Ritsuko, Ami (doesn't count), Iori. I am hoping this only means something isn't fine tuned about them yet. My guess is that dancing animations haven't been tuned yet.

I guess I was wrong on two new idols. I really thought they might do that. 876 has yet to be seen.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on July 03, 2010, 08:26:55 pm
/dies
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 03, 2010, 08:38:09 pm
... I liked her long hair...
Give her a year, she can grow it back out? I mean.... when a lady cuts her hair..

alternate ending: azusa grows her hair for love of her producer
:K

seriously, NBGI did a great job this time
i thought it was gonna be like more new faildols
older idols, 961 girls, trio communications, lets hope for more content in the future trailers.
In fact, i insist there will be.
chihaya's head looks rounder lol, iori actually looks wealthy

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 03, 2010, 08:47:30 pm
So, short-haired Miki never happened?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on July 03, 2010, 08:55:06 pm
So, short-haired Miki never happened?
Nope. the SP series wouldn't have happened if she were real.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 03, 2010, 08:56:50 pm
no 876 characters
so far... so cash
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on July 03, 2010, 08:57:13 pm
Oh snaps, this looks amazing! I REALLY love Makoto's new look! Though I do wish that Yayoi had a new design too. But oh well.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Trance Blossom on July 03, 2010, 09:40:29 pm
ZA WARUDO

...is all one
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on July 03, 2010, 09:51:04 pm
I LOVE it! I love the fact that they have gone all Dream Club on us and that everybody is older. Does this means we're going to get a entirely new catalog of songs and maybe the older songs will be DLC?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: allen on July 03, 2010, 11:41:48 pm
just curious, and possibly slightly off topic, but has anyone seen this scan:

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/6/2/62977b2a.jpg)

source: http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/544372.html

not really sure what the scanned article says but theres a big "PS3" on there.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 03, 2010, 11:45:45 pm
One comment--
Yay! The ramen place still exists!  :P


The new character designs look really nice. Playing SP made me forget video game physics existed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2010, 11:49:49 pm
That's a really old, and really fake magazine scan.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: allen on July 03, 2010, 11:50:29 pm
wishful thinking i guess :( 
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 04, 2010, 12:04:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_T__jLjEU
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 04, 2010, 12:06:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_T__jLjEU
*suffers from re-opened brain scar* ;_;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 04, 2010, 01:16:10 am
Aha~ They look awesome. AWESOME.
There seems to be outfit variations, too.
But we must remember, this is only the first trailer, there could be some bigger suprises to come.
I see boob physics!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 01:37:08 am
Now the question is... would they reveal another trailer at todays live?
And would Yukiho's seiyuu stay as Yurishii? The fate of the 876 crew? Why is it set a year after Im@s, but only half a year since the girls debuted as idols? How would Ami and Mami being treated as separate idols impact the game? Change in bust size? The truth behind Haruka's ribbon change?

Also I want to play around with Makoto's long-ish front hair.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 04, 2010, 01:47:20 am
Makoto's hair is amazing.  :P
Although it makes me sad that Azusa now has short hair.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on July 04, 2010, 01:52:20 am
The only thing I could focus on during the entire commercial was their hair... I love it~! Except for Azusa's new hair. I absolutely hate it. She needs to grow it out.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 04, 2010, 02:43:18 am
And would Yukiho's seiyuu stay as Yurishii?
I must've missed something.  Please fill me in on why Yurishii might not voice Yukiho.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: s8C on July 04, 2010, 02:45:16 am
Puberty was kind to Ami.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 04, 2010, 03:34:13 am

But we must remember, this is only the first trailer, there could be some bigger suprises to come.

And by all means, we accept bigger surprises XD Well, provided they're good.

On that note, I want to hear Chihaya. Wasn't her seiyuu supposed to go do something else and stop voice-acting?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 04, 2010, 03:37:48 am
And by all means, we accept bigger surprises XD Well, provided they're good.

On that note, I want to hear Chihaya. Wasn't her seiyuu supposed to go do something else and stop voice-acting?

Wasn't it Chiaki Takahashi, Azusa's voice actress?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 04, 2010, 03:38:16 am
I got some screenshots for the game.
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7613/88607484.png)
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6109/imgl04.jpg)
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/285/c20100703imas205cs1w172.jpg)

I must say I really like Mami's pony tail. I also really like Miki's new hair style. I just really think Miki's new hair style looks beautiful.   ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 04, 2010, 03:39:59 am
The first screenshot is nightmare fuel.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 04, 2010, 03:54:00 am
Easily better than anything shown at E3. Ok, I kid, but this is still pretty awesome. ;~)
Loving the new looks. Makoto finally looks fairly feminine, like she always wanted to, Miki's hair is so sexy~, Ritsuko looks damn hot, and Azusa still looks beautiful~.

And with the new game, I can certainly hope that we're getting a lot more traffic and discussions in the future here on Project Im@s. :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 03:56:17 am
Puberty was kind to Ami.
This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/hairstyle.jpg) may interest you.
In the end, the twins are still... well, twins.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nyachan on July 04, 2010, 04:00:26 am
I really do like all the new hairstyles and appearances. :> Ami/Mami are amazing~ And Miki's hair is really pretty. Hoping for a PS3 release though because I want to play this but urgh region protection.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 04, 2010, 04:15:40 am
You know, I had this thought about the game how it's supposed to be pushing unity and the new song says "The world is all one"...

Region protection seems ironic.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 04, 2010, 04:47:04 am
This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/hairstyle.jpg) may interest you.
In the end, the twins are still... well, twins.

Hair doesn't work like that...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 04, 2010, 05:00:15 am
This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/hairstyle.jpg) may interest you.
In the end, the twins are still... well, twins.

The twins are taller than hibiki
in half a year they had a jumbo growth spurt lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 04, 2010, 05:08:26 am
One year.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azem4144 on July 04, 2010, 05:15:58 am
Ami has become cuter, but in a way, long hair doesn't suits her. I like all the characters.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 04, 2010, 05:23:17 am
I'd have to say i kinda like all the new hair styles for some of the idols. So glad to finally see the PV (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/03/idolmaster-2-announced-for-xbox-360-coming-in-2011/)

I must've missed something.  Please fill me in on why Yurishii might not voice Yukiho.
You remember the whole death threat thing way back. We'll have to wait for more info to be sure as to who voices Yukiho but I think Yurishii will keep the job.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 05:53:40 am
It's just a rumor, but no Yurishii at live, no scene in the trailer showing Yukiho talking (though she's singing lol) just caused some unrest within the Yukiho-loving community.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 04, 2010, 06:35:11 am
This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/hairstyle.jpg) may interest you.
In the end, the twins are still... well, twins.
Thanks, that's helped a lot. qT_Tp
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on July 04, 2010, 06:49:04 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6lqki0BLJY
PV with subs

Chronologically speaking, do you think they are going to place this sometime after the first game or are they going to throw that out altogether and start fresh... again?

Other than that some comments on the idols:
Azusa-san looks amazing with short hair, pretty good for my first favorite idol. My onee-san wouldn't happen to be engaged to someone now would she? hihihi~
Ami-chan and Mami-chan apparently got a growth spurt in a matter of a year.
Iori-chan looks good but she's covering up her forehead.
I don't know why I think this, but I think they made Makoto-chan more ambiguous than before.
Ritsuko-san is definitely pulling off that Sarah Palin look. Why does everyone do that nowadays?
Miki-chan looks good loose.
and everyone else... looks the same

Unfortunately I don't see any 876 idols yet, which is fine but then there's no Ryo-san... I want my Ryo-san!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 04, 2010, 07:02:28 am
Unfortunately I don't see any 876 idols yet, which is fine but then there's no Ryo-san... I want my Ryo-san!
Do you remember when we noticed Miki was missing from SP?
Not that I'm saying that they'll be back in here in some way, but that's something to keep in mind.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 04, 2010, 07:05:08 am
Ami: "Ami is keeping it a secret from Mami that Nii-chan cheated on her!"
Hey! Wait! You both suppose to be mine! XDDD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 04, 2010, 07:09:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6lqki0BLJY
PV with subs

Chronologically speaking, do you think they are going to place this sometime after the first game or are they going to throw that out altogether and start fresh... again?

I'd like to know this too, although I think it's still too early to tell.

Since Takane and Hibiki in it, it might seem that it takes place after SP and DS, assuming that the story does continue on from the previous games. But then NB says that the game takes place 6 months after the idols made their debut from the original game, which either means SP never happened and Takane and Hibiki were there from the start.

I believe I might be thinking too hard about this. Somebody please correct me.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 04, 2010, 07:16:34 am
I'd like to know this too, although I think it's still too early to tell.

Since Takane and Hibiki in it, it might seem that it takes place after SP and DS, assuming that the story does continue on from the previous games. But then NB says that the game takes place 6 months after the idols made their debut from the original game, which either means SP never happened and Takane and Hibiki were there from the start.

I believe I might be thinking too hard about this. Somebody please correct me.

How about the prototype?
hibiki and takane were originally part of 765 in the prototype before they were removed from the arcade.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 04, 2010, 07:33:14 am
How about the prototype?
hibiki and takane were originally part of 765 in the prototype before they were removed from the arcade.
Should not have something to do with the prototype...Hibiki and Takane didn't even have the same name and story background back then.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 04, 2010, 07:48:02 am
I take this more as a final fantasy kinda deal.

Every canon iDOLM@STER game has a new story that disregards the last. By canon, I mean iDOLM@STER Arcade, iDOLM@STER, SP, and 2.

It only makes sense, since this one would be a fresh start, and have the idols grow 1 year older. I mean, producer joins at 6 months after their debut. No way this situation can fit into any timeflow you guys come up with.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on July 04, 2010, 07:58:15 am
I think it'll be cool to see the DS idols in HD (Eri especially). Perhaps we can have some new idols too?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: s8C on July 04, 2010, 09:19:09 am
They're stressing the trio unity aspect, and 876 is pretty much just a trio at this point. They might cameo or show up as unlockables.

Even if they don't I at least want Alive and DW in the selection. I've been wanting to hear some 765 renditions of those, but SP never ended up stealing them like I expected.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on July 04, 2010, 09:31:39 am
Was it me or did the song before All the world is one sounded like a remixed version of THE IDOLM@STER? If that's the case do you think we'll be getting more remixed versions of the old songs.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 04, 2010, 09:46:46 am
Just saw the trailer myself. Looks great! At first I didn't recognize Makoto and I'm not exactly happy with Azusa's new hairstyle, but I love that the 961 idols are now on the 360. ;D

Wish they had made an upgrade to the graphics but hey, graphics aren't a major factor for me.  ::)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on July 04, 2010, 09:51:10 am
Best team will be 961 Pro reunited
We all know it.
Hibiki
Miki
Takane

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/03/idolmaster-2-announced-for-xbox-360-coming-in-2011/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/03/idolmaster-2-announced-for-xbox-360-coming-in-2011/)
Quote
Characters from the first Idolmaster, as well as characters from Idolmaster SP and a couple new Idols, will be making up the game's roster, and everyone is said to have aged by one year.

New idols?

Could be referring to Hibiki and Takane, but still.....

edit:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/04/idolmaster-2-announced-as-xbox-360-exclusive/ (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/04/idolmaster-2-announced-as-xbox-360-exclusive/)
Quote
The game, of course an Xbox 360 exclusive, is set for release in the spring of 2011.

The game itself is said to follow the same pattern as the first, but with the game starting 6 months after the girls’ debut rather than with it, and with the game starting with a 3 girl unit. The girls will have aged a year, perhaps a disappointment to the core fanbase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_T__jLjEU&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_T__jLjEU&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 04, 2010, 10:05:08 am
http://www.4gamer.net/games/052/G005257/20100703004/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/052/G005257/20100703004/)

High quality PV download links from 4gamer.
PV Download version (30fps) 243.2MB (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100703_imas2_pv-A1_3p_0703_MPEG4-AVC_30fps_8M.zip)
PV Download version (60fps) 363.2MB (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100703_imas2_pv-A1_3p_0703_MPEG4-AVC_60fps_12M.zip)


Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 04, 2010, 11:23:43 am
For some reason I wasted my time on this before I went to bed.
Didn't think I could finish that much in a couple of hours, now if only epoxy putty'd dry a bit faster then I could start with the details..

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3460/cimg0846m.jpg)
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9254/cimg0843f.jpg)
Title: uploaded PV
Post by: domelola on July 04, 2010, 11:40:58 am
Hi every one!
I have translated the PV of IDOLM@STER2 and uploaded on youtube.
Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICI0rs2HIiw
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 11:53:49 am
Just got mail from friends who went to day 2.

Yukiho has changed.

[More in-depth]
- Yurishii is no longer Yukiho's seiyuu, and she has passed the baton to Asakura Azumi.

[On the bright side]
- You can create a unit with up to 5 idols!
- Azusa, Ritsuko and Iori, who weren't seen performing in the day 1 trailer, were seen performing on stage... they are still idols!
- VERY likely you can produce Ami and Mami in the same unit, as separate idols.



-edit-
Now also on Dengeki Online.
Message from Asakura-san midnight, on the official site and Dengeki Online!
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/276/276798/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 04, 2010, 01:27:10 pm
- Azusa, Ritsuko and Iori, who weren't seen performing in the day 1 trailer, were seen performing on stage... they are still idols!

Excellent news.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 04, 2010, 01:59:06 pm
- Azusa, Ritsuko and Iori, who weren't seen performing in the day 1 trailer, were seen performing on stage... they are still idols!
YES. I heard rumors Azusa and Ritsuko retired and were office workers, but hoped this wasn't true. Then again, looking at the silhouettes, I sort of figured they would be performing and producible anyways.

- You can create a unit with up to 5 idols!
HOREY SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET. Idol supergroups are in order, I think~.

- Yurishii is no longer Yukiho's seiyuu, and she has passed the baton to Asakura Azumi.
That's too bad... I hear word that Yurishii became mentally sick due to what happened to her in recent times, but if anyone knows more info about her situation, feel free to clarify what I said. I hope Azumi will do well capturing Yukiho's personality and singing voice.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 02:13:07 pm
Apparently, Asakura-san did such an awesome Yukiho voice the audience though it was Yurishii until her name came up on the stage screen.

While most cheered for the change, thanking Yurishii for her hard work up to now and Azumi for receiving the baton, I did read reports of some Yurishii fans storming out of the concert hall when the announcement was made.


Well, four more hours until her interview.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 04, 2010, 02:44:34 pm
Ah, that's great to hear! Good to hear that Asakura is able to do Yukiho's voice quite well. As for those that have left... well, haters gonna hate, I suppose. Too bad they're gonna miss out on a whole lot of awesome. 8)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 04, 2010, 03:03:24 pm
I'm glad to hear that Asakura was able to to Yukiho's voice pretty well.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 04, 2010, 03:12:33 pm
Any announcements about songlists?
Good thing they made a good product this year
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 04, 2010, 04:05:49 pm
I want to see the PV 2, as well as a sample of yukihos new VA. I think we can expect songs from the new cds to show up in IM@S 2, such as L O B M, kimi wa melody, mata ne, and The Ai, DREAM and LOST. Hopefully the 876 songs get put in too. Id love to hear them sing Alive.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on July 04, 2010, 04:30:40 pm
Just saw the trailer myself and well, I like the new look on everyone (minus the logo, it kinda turns me off). Overall, I may now die and go to heaven. XD

Yurishii is no longer Yukiho's seiyuu, and she has passed the baton to Asakura Azumi.
Well, that's depressing. Thought she'd still be doing this. Oh well, I'll just hope for the best.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 04:38:24 pm
Well, 30 more mins till the interview with old and new Yukiho, and probably the 2nd trailer too.


--edit--
As expected, official site is too heavy because of the access numbers, so reading the Dengeki Online interview first.
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/275/275837/

Will summarize later.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on July 04, 2010, 05:48:39 pm
Any announcements about songlists?

Actually I've been sorta curious about this as well.  I'm wondering if they're going to retire all the arcade songs and replace them with the MA songs or just DLC songs.  Which I wouldn't mind, a default songlist including My Song, Do Dai, Overmaster, etc.  isn't that bad >____> 

Nothing against the classics like Aoi Tori, First Stage, etc.  but it's been kinda overkill now.  They have a much bigger catalog of songs, it might do them good to just use a whole new songlist of sorts.  Hmmmmm would make sense if they did that and made the removed songs DLC.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 04, 2010, 05:59:25 pm
Sorry, this was mentioned like a page ago, but 5-idol groups? Aaaaaawesome. Can't wait for the next PV.

Also, a songlist XD I thought that the songlisting (which leads up to 1 being "The world is all one!!") was all in-game songs the first time I watched the video. Then I paused it and actually read some of the song names / performers, and it turned out otherwise...

Kimi ha Melody and Mata Ne should definitely be in this game by default. As much as I love the "old" songs...I kinda want more new ones. If Overmaster is in the game, Colorful Days would (...should) be in it too, so maybe that'll be the oldest song?

It's so hard to guess. They're a little unpredictable.

Also, I'm glad Yukiho's new seiyuu does a good job of sounding like her. Poor Yurishii ;_;
Title: Page 1 of Dengeki interview
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 06:11:35 pm
Hase-san (AKA Yurishii) and her departure from Yukiho--

--Honestly speaking, I was surprised not just as a columnist for Dengeki, but as a producer. Ishihara-san (Director 1), can you tell us the decisions behind changing Yukiho's VA?

D1: Before we started working on Im@s 2, we had to work out the setting and timeline. We started working on the basis after the development of SP, way before Dearly Stars was even announced.

We were always keen on releasing a second HD Im@s game, while also settling on the idea of starting anew... something that will replicate the feel of the original arcade. Starting from zero, as so to speak.

Im@s just celebrated its 5th anniversary, but on the flip side it also means 5 years of adding on new material to the point of becoming humdrum. So to "re"start Im@s 2, we needed potential for the game to last two, three years on its own and not just rely on short lived hype, but to have a solid foundation of fans.

--Starting from zero, including the VAs?

D1: Yes, you're right. Counting from the very start of development, some of the VAs have been involved seven, eight years with the series, and they've grown together with their characters. But at one point, I had to ask everyone whether they were OK about sticking with Im@s, as it was about to go through a new phase of evolution. It was rude for me to ask them since they are so involved in it already, but at this pace, Im@s will surely become a lifework for them, so I needed to recheck.

During this phase in development, I had a long discussion with Hase-san, about conflicts with our recording schedule and her schedule as a seiyuu. Hase-san said it herself, that she didn't want to be involved with Im@s if she couldn't give it her best, and that it was in the best interest for both of us if she left at this transition point from 1 to 2. It was a difficult choice, but in the end we both agreed to move on.

The decision behind Asakura-san as Yukiho--

--Asakura-san will be newly introduced to the cast, but was she chosen in an audition like the rest of the VAs?

D1: We held an audition in summer 2009, with no avail. We just couldn't find anyone that would fit Yukiho's role. And if we as developers didn't think a VA sounded like Yukiho, what would the fans think? At this point, I actually had ideas of shifting Yukiho to another role.

--But by the end of the audition, you found Asakura-san.

D1: Actually, interestingly, we didn't find her at the end of that particular audition. Because we couldn't find a fitting VA, we started to go through past audition recordings, and while looking through, I came across Asakura-san.

--Past auditions... do you mean the auditions for Miki, and the Hibiki-Takane pair?

D1: Exactly. We went through past data, and when we came across Asakura-san's singing, it just struck us as being Yukiho-like. So we contacted her agency, and asked her to come to an audition.

--So Asakura-san, you took Yukiho's audition after the call from Ishihara-san?

Asakura: Yes. Acting out Yukiho's part according to the script, and going through Im@s songs.

--Out of interest, what did you sing?


Asakura: "Kosmos, Cosmos" and "The Idolmaster." I'm not used to singing at auditions, so I was all nervous... I didn't know the microphone was on while it was being setup, and everyone in the studio could hear me saying things like "I'm always so nervous when it comes to Im@s auditions..." Everyone outside the booth heard me, and I was pretty certain I was going to mess up again.

--When playing Yukiho's part during the audition, did you have Hase-san's Yukiho in mind?

Asakura: During the audition, not so much. But after I got the role, I started working on a rendition of Yukiho that was like Hase-san's but different. Although I constantly had to confirm if I sounded OK with the studio staff and Ishihara-san.

D1: The sound staff and I, though, were not really worried. When we first had Asakura-san read Yukiho's lines, we knew straight away that she hit the right note, and from then on we weren't worried one bit. Even in Im@s 2, Yukiho is Yukiho, she retains an inner strength masked by her fragile exterior. Asakura-san brought to life this image of Yukiho, and she did it very naturally.

--How do you feel, being chosen to play Yukiho's role?

Asakura: Before the audition I was set on getting the role, and now that I have, I'm going to put everything I have in it, because I don't want people who like Yukiho to hate her because of a VA change. By the time I got this role, I was already in love with Yukiho's character, so I'm set on playing the role of the cute, strong Yukiho... an idol loved by many. In a sense, my number one feeling was that I was going to do my best, not just happiness from being able to be Yukiho's new VA.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 04, 2010, 06:56:41 pm
Thanks for the transcript, Pizzaman.

I think I'll put my worries behind once I actually get to hear Asakura's Yukiho voice.

I'm very excited at the prospect of swimming in new iM@S content...but at the same time I'm quite anxious on what damage it'll do to my wallet.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 04, 2010, 07:13:36 pm
Thanks for the transcript, Pizzaman.

I think I'll put my worries behind once I actually get to hear Asakura's Yukiho voice.

I'm very excited at the prospect of swimming in new iM@S content...but at the same time I'm quite anxious on what damage it'll do to my wallet.

Pretty much my thoughts here.  I would like to hear Asakura's Yukiho voice as well.

and a super-idol unit of 5?! The Producer (or us if you like) will certainly have his hands full... (A unit if Ami, Mami, Iori, Yayoi, and Hibiki?! Oh dear)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 04, 2010, 07:16:04 pm
So it is starting a new story from scratch.

Hey, that means 961 probably won't exist anymore. Awesome.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 04, 2010, 07:28:21 pm
Hey, that means 961 probably won't exist anymore. Awesome.

Hehehe. Scotty's gonna be pissed! :D

Well, I'm just hoping that  the origonal songs like Relations and 9:02 pm are still in the game, or at the very least DLC. If they keep them, I won't hesitate to buy the game.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 04, 2010, 07:32:53 pm
Yurishii... ;_;
I'm going to cry in a corner for a bit...

All the other news sounds great, but, Yurishii....
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 04, 2010, 07:33:11 pm
 5 idol trios?  Someone do the math on how many combinations that is.
I am hoping for the DS girls, sience from what we've seen, the story seems to have alot to do with trios. They would be perfect. Lets hope for unlockables.

I wouldn't mind a whole roster of new songs, and being able to bring back classics (perhaps beating auditions with certain idols will bring back thier image songs? |Or some other idol-specific criteria.)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 04, 2010, 07:37:42 pm
Yurishii... ;_;
I'm going to cry in a corner for a bit...

All the other news sounds great, but, Yurishii....

Well, I say we should give Asakura a chance, at least. She might turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
Title: Page 2 of Dengeki Interview
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 07:42:33 pm
Since there's no new trailer again, hopefully it'll be there tomorrow... or always wait till the 9th, when new Yukiho's voice will be a free DL from Im@s Mobile.


Asakura-san and Im@s--

--You've been to Im@s auditions previously, but when did you find out about the idol, Yukiho?

Asakura: Before I went to my first Im@s audition, I did research into the game. I also got invites from my agency, Artsvision, and have been to a few live concerts. I knew what all the idols are like, and their VAs too. I was also lucky enough to be surrounded by Yukiho fans, so I got a lot of insight into her.

--So, Yukiho... what were your first impressions of her?

Asakura: Fragile like a flower... and digs holes.

-- Haha!. Then, what were your impressions on Im@s as a game?

Asakura: It's very different from other voice acting jobs I've done in the past. Normally a seiyuu's job is to give characters a voice, and when going on stage, you go on stage as yourself, not the character. But in the case of Im@s, we have the idols, then we have the seiyuu, and while we are two separate entities, we feel so close to each other. This is something I've never experienced before.

--I guess that's one appeal of Im@s, but it must be hard on the VA too. Asakura-san, do you have any similarities to Yukiho?


Asakura: I'm usually the one to go to the back row and be slightly off the center, so I guess that is a similarity with Yukiho. I also like dark places... whenever I say Yukiho's "I'm going to dig hole and bury myself!", I feel so much at home. Oh, but gradually I've started to sense Yukiho's inner strength while recording her lines. She's actually a strong girl with a strong will... I think I share that with Yukiho too.

Asakura-san and sempai Im@s VAs--

--Your agency, Artsvision, is also the agency where Nakamura-san (Haruka) and Hasegawa-san (Miki) works. Were you friends with them before being involved with Im@s?

Asakura: Before being chosen for Yukiho's role, I didn't talk with them much, only talked about when the next live concert is, and things like that. So now that I'm Yukiho all of a sudden, I was at a loss for who to talk to. We've only recently started talking to each other as friends, after I met the two of them at another recording studio and they congratulated me on being part of the Im@s team.

--What were their reactions when you told them your role?


Asakura: The first thing they asked me was "how many songs are you going to record?"

--Hehe, a hard road all the other VAs have walked in the past. The first time you worked as a team was at this live concert, correct?


Asakura: Recording for the game is done solo, so I met some of the seiyuus for the first time when preparing for the live. I hope I get to know them well soon. They are all very kind though, and when I couldn't get my dance right, they stuck with me until I could work out my mistakes. Akiko-chan, Yumi-chan and Nuu-Nuu are fun to talk to during breaks, and Eriko-san is always so nice to me.

Before the live, a message to producers--

--What are your impressions of Im@s fans - the producers?

Asakura: While I was watching previous live events from the back of the hall, I didn't see a single person taking a break from cheering. Everyone together as a team and cheering... I go to other live events too, but no other events have so much energy and unity. I hope they accept me as part of that too.

--What are your feelings about being announced as Yukiho's new seiyuu at the live?

Asakura: I'm looking forward to it! It was around this time last year when I was chosen, and right after I was chosen I was full of spirit, although when recording started, I started to become afraid whether the fans would accept me or not, whether I would be able to be Yukiho. But now that I've done everything I can up to this point, I'm purely happy to be part of the Idolm@ster team.

--And now, the same question to Ishihara-san. Any worries about todays announcement?

D1: I've nothing to worry about. Hase-san's Yukiho is Yukiho. Asakura-san's Yukiho is also Yukiho. It doesn't mean Hase-san's Yukiho would just disappear, and since Asakura-san's Yukiho has finished recording, I can assure you that Yukiho will still remain being cute. I can guarantee everyone that Yukiho will remain unchanged and still be the idol everyone loves. Of course, just saying this in text has little meaning, and so there'll be a chance for everyone to listen to Asakura-san's Yukiho voice.

--Do you any specific plans for this?

D1: On Im@s Mobile, we'll be distributing free ring-voices of new Yukiho, since it's the most accessible platform right now. Afterwards, through radio and other means. we'll steadily reveal the voice of new Yukiho to the public. The sudden announcement will indeed be a shock to producers and it's not in my good will to leave it at that. July is only just a doorstep.

--I understand now. New Yukiho, to everyone.

D1: Of course, it's not just Yukiho who'll need to be known. I want everyone to notice Yukiho as a character again, but also everyone to see what Asakura-san is like. Having the character known is the most important aspect, but establishing a strong connection with the seiyuu will be a strong backbone, and will make the character seem much more human and appealing.

Because the theme of Im@s 2 is "unity", I hope everyone will be united by the time the game is released.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Urby on July 04, 2010, 08:07:32 pm
My thoughts upon seeing the PV:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Urby/arts/jigglies.png)

this image is in serious need of cleaning up but I JUST REFORMATTED MY COMPUTER and I need to reinstall everything. excuses excuses.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 04, 2010, 08:10:30 pm
The more I read Asakura's responses, the more relaxed I feel.

My thoughts upon seeing the PV:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Urby/arts/jigglies.png)

this image is in serious need of cleaning up but I JUST REFORMATTED MY COMPUTER and I need to reinstall everything. excuses excuses.

To be honest, I was too entranced by the new hairstyles to be paying attention to the jiggle physics :P
Title: Final page of interview. Page 4 is more or less a letter from Yurishii.
Post by: Pizzaman on July 04, 2010, 08:18:21 pm
Where Yukiho goes from here, and where Asakura-san goes from here--

--Because Asakura-san will play Yukiho, would there be changes to her character and personality?

D1: Because of the nature of characters and their relation to VAs, some things from the seiyuu might get passed along to Yukiho. Yukiho is Yukiho, but will be "Asakura-san's Yukiho", and hopefully gain new things along the way.

My philosophy is that good characters never stay static. Take Haruka for example. At the start of the series, she may not have had a lot of character, but over the years, how people see her has passed onto her character, and in a way Nakamura-san has pulled her through so that she could grow up to be Haruka we all know and love.

--Producers around Japan, producing Haruka.

D1: Right, and I believe that fits the concept of idols perfectly. So Yukiho as a character will change as Asakura-san plays her role, and I think that this is a good thing. Going through changes like this will make her more idol-like.

When the arcade started, the idols only existed inside my head, but now they're inside all of us, the staff and the fans alike. We all perceive them a little bit differently, and that gives depth to the characters. No longer are characters invented and owned by the original creator, but rather owned and raised by all of us. And I'm at the far end of the spectrum, at the end where we can make the amendments. Therefore it's the duty of staff members such as us to shift the idols to a more desirable and fitting direction.

--By playing Yukiho, do you think you have changed? Do you think you will change?


Asakura: Not just Yukiho, but when I started my job in the Im@s series, everyday was an adventure. But now I'm getting more and more used to it, and I'm prepared to walk forward, hand-in-hand with Yukiho.

--Any words to all the producers?

Asakura: Honestly, I've never had my heart beat so fast. Also, I wonder how many fans I'll have by the time this is online. I hope I have people cheering for me, even though I'm just a free bonus that comes with everybody's beloved Yukiho.

D1: I expect everyone to be surprised at this revelation. First off, I need to apologize to everyone for being the harbinger of shock and awe. But for Im@s 2, in order to make Haruka and others shine more than ever, and to make everyones producer life better, one can't be afraid to make changes. But I want everyone to understand that I won't mess with the characters that were raised by all of you. This time around, we have a plan with a longer time-frame in mind, so in the end, I hope everyone will be happy.

This isn't just a decision made by me as a director, but also as a producer. And I hope you stick around to see the results.

--Finally, a request to Asakura-san. A message for Yukiho?

Asakura: Stay sweet and strong, and don't stop being your natural self. I'll be next to you at all times, and I hope we can be together, as a pair.

--Thank you!


----


Totally unrelated to the interview, but:
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/2slots.png)
Two more possible slots, right? Since they seem to be pushing the number 3 and 5 quite a bit...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 04, 2010, 08:46:20 pm
雪歩の声優が変わったってどういうことなの…
oh man thats a shocker
well lets hope the new Yukiho voice is good, or at least matches to our expectations. I bet many fans will be shocked about this.
Though a part of me is kind of looking forward to how asakura will sound like as yukipo

Totally unrelated to the interview, but:
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/2slots.png)
Two more possible slots, right? Since they seem to be pushing the number 3 and 5 quite a bit...

lmao thats the first thing i thought when i went to the official site
i even told that to scotty
"maybe, just maybe what if there were 2 new idols or something, looks like open slots meng"

(http://i48.tinypic.com/mi2c2d.jpg)

by the time im@s 2 comes out, everyone is going to buy the new xbox slim...
watch the game come with the new slim bundle too lol, despite the first one not having an xbox bundle.
install im@s 2 on 250GB HDD

and 5 idols on stage?
i'd like to see what happens when you get in an ACCIDENT!
must be pure chaos
Quote from: TweenDoriru
Crash and burn to the extreme! Then you have a setback while your idols are in the hospital.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on July 04, 2010, 08:52:23 pm
... I'm loving Mami's hairstyle.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 04, 2010, 09:12:23 pm
by the time im@s 2 comes out, everyone is going to buy the new xbox slim...
watch the game come with the new slim bundle too lol, despite the first one not having an xbox bundle.
install im@s 2 on 250GB HDD

I was scared at the prospect of spending so much for a special edition for iM@S 2, like I did for iM@S. Now that you mention the xbox slim, I'm even more scared of being the consumer whore I am =/
But imagine, a special xbox slim with iM@S patterns!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on July 04, 2010, 09:33:42 pm
Unfortunately, I don't have the Japanese comprehension skills necessary to pour out a bunch of money for this... yet...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 04, 2010, 09:52:47 pm
I was scared at the prospect of spending so much for a special edition for iM@S 2, like I did for iM@S. Now that you mention the xbox slim, I'm even more scared of being the consumer whore I am =/
But imagine, a special xbox slim with iM@S patterns!
There's a great possibility for this...You should start prepare your money, and so do I :(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 04, 2010, 10:12:00 pm
I would hate to have a slim just for Jpn games and still have my fat old American one for everything else.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 04, 2010, 10:15:09 pm
>IM@S with kinect
I wonder whats gonna happen guise
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 04, 2010, 10:18:03 pm
5 idol trios?  Someone do the math on how many combinations that is.
I am hoping for the DS girls, sience from what we've seen, the story seems to have alot to do with trios. They would be perfect. Lets hope for unlockables.

I wouldn't mind a whole roster of new songs, and being able to bring back classics (perhaps beating auditions with certain idols will bring back thier image songs? |Or some other idol-specific criteria.)

5 idols: 1287
4 idols: 715
3 idols: 286, as stated before

However, if the communications you get are decided by a main idol...

5 idols: 6435 (13 idols, pick 4, throw out doubles, pick from the remaining 9)
4 idols: 2860
3 idols: 858

New songs, I would bet, would be mostly new. A character song for each, and a 765 song makes 14 songs. If they want to do shared image songs... 13 doesn't divide easily, but I could see a 3/3/3/4 spread, making it 18. For a release, I think that's about the number of songs that's doable.

All our old songs? DLC is what I think.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 04, 2010, 10:26:49 pm
I would hate to have a slim just for Jpn games and still have my fat old American one for everything else.
Well, a JP 360 can play most US games...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 04, 2010, 10:42:03 pm
Quoting from pages and pages ago is such a pain...

alternate ending: azusa grows her hair for love of her producer

Here's hoping. EX Azusa!!!

You remember the whole death threat thing way back. We'll have to wait for more info to be sure as to who voices Yukiho but I think Yurishii will keep the job.

While most cheered for the change, thanking Yurishii for her hard work up to now and Azumi for receiving the baton, I did read reports of some Yurishii fans storming out of the concert hall when the announcement was made.

I don't remember the death threat thing, but... dang it people, it's cool if you cry tears of sadness and all, but don't hate. The world is all one!

EDIT: I just realized what day it is here in America... and I'd much rather be spending it at a concert in Japan!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 04, 2010, 10:55:55 pm
After reading Asakura-sans interview i feel a bit at ease about the CV change for Yukiho. Shes still my Fav Idol and i think Asakura can help her character evolve so i wish her the best of luck.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 04, 2010, 11:01:30 pm
Asakura seems like she'll do a good job. Reading the interviews and stuff, I have faith in her! :) I absolutely cannot wait to hear Yukiho.

Also, I know this was a few pages back (Cael K is right, it's a pain to quote from pages ago) but I'm pretty sure there was an issue with another CV (being Chihaya's or Azusa's, I don't know) who was leaving because they were just becoming a vocalist or something which involved not working on iM@S...

edit: Also from pages ago, I think the graphics maybe aren't IMPROVED, but even the idols with no evident change look a bit different. Chihaya, Yayoi, Yukiho, and Haruka all look a bit different than in the original iM@S (and then Ami's so much taller). I think they're...enhanced, and I like them.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 05, 2010, 12:28:51 am
Well, a JP 360 can play most US games...

Most. But no GTA4. And that's a deal breaker...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 05, 2010, 12:36:49 am
Most. But no GTA4. And that's a deal breaker...

also fallout 3, make that two :K
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 05, 2010, 02:11:56 am
also fallout 3, make that two :K

Actually, Japan has access to Fallout 3.... :-\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 05, 2010, 02:26:41 am
he means you can't play the American version of fallout on a Japanese Xbox.

Back on topic it seems to me that most of us aren't too upset about the changes some of the characters have under gone. Taking into account Cael's math it seems Namco really stepped up to the plate.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 05, 2010, 02:39:56 am
Well, I'm not a great translator, but I can try my hand at this too. From page 4 of the article (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/275/275837/index-4.html) (pages 1-3 translated previously by Pizzaman).

A message from Hase Yurina to Yukiho and her producers

This time, the role of Yukiho has been passed to Azumi.

I understand what it means to be on stage for Imas, and all our fan's wishes. Even with everyone turning towards these thoughts with enthusiastic zeal, I thought I'd turn towards a different direction.

Inside myself, I've been thinking that, as a vocal entertainer, I'd like to shift my focuses, and as a voice actress, I'd like to make time to relearn everything from scratch. About at that time, Mr. Ishihara approached me about Imas2, but in my uneasiness, I knew I could only offer Yukiho's voice my own half-hearted emotions. And so, I decided to pass the baton.

I never thought that Imas would've turned out the way it did when I first started. It's quite funny, really, and I've been thinking that if I don't change my inner thoughts, then it'll be pretty hard for me to continue past where I am now.

Imas has really left a lot of impressions on me. If I were to pick out something recently, then I would go with the 4th Memorial Live Tour in Fukuoka. At the time, I was going all out with the mindset of, "Let's all make this a great performance!" These memories still remain in my heart. Concering Yukiho herself, I still wonder, "How can Yukiho be this cute?" (Laugh) However, there's always been this gap I've felt between me and her. It's like she's a really honest person, and a true idol.

I've actually known Azumi for quite a while, and how seriously she takes her voice acting. When I heard she would be taking over the role as Yukiho, I was both relieved and very, very glad! There's going to be a lot of things she's going to need to deal with, but as long as Azumi's doing her voice, then I don't think there's really anything to worry about. This is really a good thing for Yukiho.

Also, many of the fans that have come to support me have come from Imas. I really feel that with everyone's support, I've been able to make Yukiho the best she could be, and make it as a voice actor myself. Everyone, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I'll never forget all your support.

I'll still be supporting Imas and watching over it from afar. I know there's quite a lot of producers out there who've had a lot of fun producing Yukiho. There was a lot discussion about this decision from a lot of people, including Mr. Ishihara, with your thoughts in mind. I'm not going to tell everyone to just accept this right now as it is, but I'd like it if, little by little, everyone started to support the new Imas. I would like to ask everyone out there to enjoy Azumi's Yukiho to her fullest, and bring her up to be a top idol.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 05, 2010, 05:32:36 am
Well, I'm not a great translator, but I can try my hand at this too. From page 4 of the article (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/275/275837/index-4.html) (pages 1-3 translated previously by Pizzaman).

A message from Hase Yurina to Yukiho and her producers
*SNIP*


The more I hear from the two VAs, the more reassured I am. I'm really really looking forward to hearing Asakura's Yukiho more than ever!

>IM@S with kinect
I wonder whats gonna happen guise

The idea both scares and delights me...

Unfortunately, I don't have the Japanese comprehension skills necessary to pour out a bunch of money for this... yet...

Neither do I...yet iM@S is still a black hole to my funds =/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 05, 2010, 08:30:39 am
no wonder i like the new makoto so much
http://i49.tinypic.com/64gsjq.jpg
cannot unsee
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 05, 2010, 08:42:00 am
Lots of comments on Japanese blogs about Chihaya. A lot of gamers have mixed feelings about how Chihaya now has a "bounce" when she's dancing...some are happy, but others say that Chihaya with a chest isn't Chihaya.

Will this be the end of "くっ!" and the magic number 72?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 05, 2010, 09:02:15 am
I certainly hope it is.
I've been plagued with seeing the number 72 everywhere since I jumped on this small bandwagon. I hope Chihaya's "growth" ends this ongoing trend. :o
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 05, 2010, 09:33:28 am
no wonder i like the new makoto so much
http://i49.tinypic.com/64gsjq.jpg
cannot unsee
So Makoto is the daughter of a Vampire? thats strangely attractive.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 05, 2010, 09:42:02 am
I certainly hope it is.
I've been plagued with seeing the number 72 everywhere since I jumped on this small bandwagon. I hope Chihaya's "growth" ends this ongoing trend. :o
Bouncing 72.  (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11268433)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on July 05, 2010, 09:54:48 am
no wonder i like the new makoto so much
http://i49.tinypic.com/64gsjq.jpg
cannot unsee

? I don't get it...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 05, 2010, 09:57:29 am
almost all US-region locked games have also asian-locked adaptations.
Japanese xbox can read almost all asian region locked games so if your look at it.
JXBOX360 has the most games you can play with.
I think the most trashy one is the Europe-locked version because there are only a few games released in that region.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 05, 2010, 09:57:59 am
no wonder i like the new makoto so much
http://i49.tinypic.com/64gsjq.jpg
cannot unsee

Makoto Shameimaru~!?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 05, 2010, 09:58:09 am
? I don't get it...

http://www.tasofro.net/touhou105/chara.html

Aya Shameimaru. 4th one down. Touhou character (picture is from Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, from Tasogare Frontier).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 05, 2010, 11:02:35 am
Today, iDOLM@STER 2 PV was announced in my home country (in Akibatan.com). But it seems that the major interest shows that they believe Kentaro Miura sensei, who draw BERSERK, will once again stop drawing his manga and start enjoying iDOLM@STER 2...(same as what happened before when the first iM@S was released)...
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8519/berserkidolmaster450x45.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/berserkidolmaster450x45.jpg/)
So the major reaction become like everyone (over here) begin to protest the iDOLM@STER 2, because they want their manga (BERSERK) to continue. All the comments (except mine) blame that this is the disaster and iM@S's fault that they will no longer able to read BERSERK...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 05, 2010, 11:41:42 am
Berserk sucks anyways. And cien, you should have known that was aya.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 05, 2010, 04:38:03 pm
almost all US-region locked games have also asian-locked adaptations.
Japanese xbox can read almost all asian region locked games so if your look at it.
JXBOX360 has the most games you can play with.
I think the most trashy one is the Europe-locked version because there are only a few games released in that region.
Yup.

Some games like Alpha Protocol (which turned out crap apparently, but I was anticipating it for a year) only get NA and Europe releases, but most other games get Asia-region releases, which can be played on a Japanese Xbox.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 05, 2010, 06:30:51 pm
Berserk sucks anyways. And cien, you should have known that was aya.
Eh? What do you mean? I didn't see the resemblance until after Taco showed me. :<

So Makoto is the daughter of a Vampire? thats strangely attractive.
No, not vampire. Crow tengu. ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 05, 2010, 06:35:43 pm
Yup.

Some games like Alpha Protocol (which turned out crap apparently, but I was anticipating it for a year) only get NA and Europe releases, but most other games get Asia-region releases, which can be played on a Japanese Xbox.
Although Alpha Protocol only get NA and Europe releases, it is region free and you could play it on a Japanese xbox. I only own a Japanese xbox, and I have always been purchasing the Asian version of the games if possible, since they are cheaper most of the times. I like the fact that both US and Japanese xb live accounts are accessible through changing console locations and language settings, so that I could get exclusive downloads from both sides.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 05, 2010, 06:43:50 pm
Although Alpha Protocol only get NA and Europe releases, it is region free and you could play it on a Japanese xbox. I only own a Japanese xbox, and I have always been purchasing the Asian version of the games if possible, since they are cheaper most of the times. I like the fact that both US and Japanese xb live accounts are accessible through changing console locations and language settings, so that I could get exclusive downloads from both sides.
Wait, Alpha Protocol is region free? This changes everything...

And yeah, the Marketplaces being locked to account location makes life easier.
I've got my main account linked to Japan, and one other account (JohnSmithLeet, or something like that) linked to the States.

I envy how you guys get a better Inside Xbox.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 05, 2010, 06:54:15 pm
finally... after a long time I wait for this moment....

I shall rise once again
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 05, 2010, 06:56:46 pm
Yeah, according to Play-Asia's compatibility guide (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-dh-49-en-70-34zx.html), it is region free. Just not sure if you still want it, since you said it turned out crap...

They do upload videos of inside xbox to Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/user/xbox), so you might want to check it out, and also the European Inside xbox channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialInsideXbox).  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 05, 2010, 07:05:49 pm
it's will be great if it's region free...

can't wait to produce Takane.... >.<
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 05, 2010, 07:46:46 pm
The World is All One you guys!
more like The Nihon is All One
I think Idolm@ster is a pretty cool guy. eh, region locks everything and doesn't afraid of anything.

Makoto Shameimaru~!?

Please chose 3 idols
Haruka...Iori...Makoto Aya...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: kozu on July 05, 2010, 09:08:45 pm
HD Gokigenyou?

brb preordering at the speed of light.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on July 05, 2010, 09:14:37 pm
I wonder how Kotori will look.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 05, 2010, 09:34:30 pm
finally... after a long time I wait for this moment....

I shall rise once again

*Snipes Lunarian in the head*

No you won't! :D

I wonder how Kotori will look.
I completely forgot about her! They didn't mention her in the trailer so I'm starting to wonder if she's even gonna show up in the game. :-\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 05, 2010, 09:40:58 pm
I completely forgot about her! They didn't mention her in the trailer so I'm starting to wonder if she's even gonna show up in the game. :-\
Well, they didn't mention the president, either, and we know he's going to be there XD Kotori is like...a part of 765Pro and iM@S XD I don't think they'd toss her.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 05, 2010, 10:09:54 pm
*Snipes Lunarian in the head*

No you won't! :D

*using smoke bomb to run away*

Hey man... don't be so cold like that... I just want to relax and play the game once more :D

because this time I can chose Takane :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 05, 2010, 11:16:32 pm
Okay, last bit of stuff from the article. Link to page 4: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/275/275837/index-4.html

A message from Director Ishihara to all producers

It's now coming up on the 8th year since we've had the Yukiho audition, and I thought I'd clarify what Ms. Hase wanted to do, including if she'd want to continue doing Imas, seeing as it's changing. I've been feeling that we've been putting a lot on her, with all the CDs and lives that have come to define Imas as we know it.

I've been talking to each individual voice actress (and actor) about Imas2 since we've decided to make it. Honestly speaking, from a company and business standpoint, having Ms. Hase not reprise her role might not have been the best decision. However, if she's not going to enjoy her role, then she won't be able to pass on her enjoyment to the role. I believe that the audience will be able to feel this in the final version as well. This is why we've passed the baton onward.

From my own personal standpoint, both Ms. Hase and Ms. Asakura have many things in common with Yukiho. I still remember when Ms. Hase first sung "First Stage." We made that song with the intention of it being sung by a more weaker, timid character, but Ms. Hase's First Stage was unexpectedly quite determined. Unexpected as it was, I thought it could work, and from that point, the sort of idol that was to be Yukiho was more or less settled. Ms. Hase's strength of will, so to speak, became the central point of Yukiho's character.

Deep within me, I don't feel as though Ms. Hase's move on and away from Idolmaster. After all, the songs she's sung as Yukiho still exist. To be more accurate, I'd say that there're just a lot of things that she's left with us. It's like she's taken to the bench in a soccer game - it's not like she's not part of the team anymore, even after she's left the field. I think this is closest to how it feels to me. Just looking at the final score, we can see how long they've been around, Ms. Ochiai, Ms. Hase. That's why Ms. Hase isn't just a spectator now, she's just bowed off the field on her way to the bench.

Deep within me, I feel that this baton passing is only going to make Yukiho's character deeper, even if I don't know how everyone playing will feel. I don't feel that Imas has ended now that Ms. Hase's gone away, but until that day comes, she'll always have left something with us.

I don't wish for any producer anywhere to fall into despair. I'm not going to overwrite Ms. Hase's Yukiho that we all know and love. I'm not going to raze her legacy without leaving anything behind. What will be will be. Even still, the new Imas will still be made. I only wish that everyone will enjoy Yukiho, with whatever feelings they might feel.

I'll leave everyone off with a bit of my own personal feelings. I, Ishihara, have become a fan of Ms. Hase ever since she joined Imas, and I'd like us all to continue supporting her. I believe that, if all of us involved in Imas, whether in the past or the present, if we all can find our happiness, then that will surely lead Imas into the future, and lead us all to finding something which cares deeply for us.

--------------

Wow, this one turned out better than the last, in my opinion. It's probably because of the music playing in the background. The Liberation of Gracemeria, The Invasion of Gracemeria, and Chandlier, all by Keiki Kobayashi. And yes, I fly the meanest, cutest F-14D SuperTomcat this side of the Pacific. ^_^
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 06, 2010, 01:48:04 am
Okay, last bit of stuff from the article. Link to page 4: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/275/275837/index-4.html

A message from Director Ishihara to all producers
*SNIP*

I'm impressed the director actually took time to write up that. It must of been a hard decision to change VAs for a character that has been around for years where one of the main focal point is the voice. I for one isn't too dissapointed, but rather excited to see how Asakura can evolve Yukiho.

Now where's the 2nd PV? >.<
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 06, 2010, 03:07:08 am
Now where's the 2nd PV? >.<
I'm with ya XDD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 06, 2010, 03:15:48 am

Now where's the 2nd PV? >.<

It's not out yet but I hope the second PV comes out soon.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 03:17:02 am
Delayed. I'm striking up a deal with nbgi to have an exclusive 961 trailer.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 06, 2010, 03:17:59 am
Delayed. I'm striking up a deal with nbgi to have an exclusive 961 trailer.
except that 961 doesn't really exist anymore *buried alive*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 06, 2010, 03:19:50 am
Makoto Shameimaru~!?

That name actually has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 06, 2010, 03:49:23 am
let see, they say 765 production restart and the 961 is in the 765 pro,

hmmm.... I really don't get it if they make trailer exclusive for 961.....

 ???
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 06, 2010, 04:05:45 am
Pft, if this was facebook, I wouldn't like this.
*rant*
It sounds like you don't like it as is o.0 Anyhow, iM@S DS was more of a spinoff than anything else; the original iDOLM@STER for the arcade was played with the player as a Producer. So...that's really what the game is. Not playing as the idol.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 04:27:10 am
Pft, if this was facebook, I wouldn't like this
[rant]


It didn't sell well for a reason.

Not enough people like you bought it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 06, 2010, 04:32:01 am
I think it's unfair how the 1st PV goes online as soon as day 1 was over, but the 2nd PV is still exclusive to those that went to day 2.

I also realized just now how Haruka has a different hairstyle as well. Ever so slightly.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 06, 2010, 04:34:31 am
I think it's unfair how the 1st PV goes online as soon as day 1 was over, but the 2nd PV is still exclusive to those that went to day 2.
The internet is too region-free ;_;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 04:41:19 am
Why can't Yayoi just keep the hairstyle she has in her Christmas dlc? Life is so unfair.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 06, 2010, 05:09:47 am
The internet is too region-free ;_;
Exactly.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on July 06, 2010, 05:24:47 am
Lots of comments on Japanese blogs about Chihaya. A lot of gamers have mixed feelings about how Chihaya now has a "bounce" when she's dancing...some are happy, but others say that Chihaya with a chest isn't Chihaya.

Will this be the end of "くっ!" and the magic number 72?
Don't forget Chihaya's profile page (http://www.idolmaster.jp/imas/character/02_chihaya.html) being the first thing you see when you google search "胸囲". XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 06, 2010, 05:58:51 am
(http://i45.tinypic.com/124egcp.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 06, 2010, 06:55:26 am
...I now need to make a shirt like this.

...though, looking at it, the twins are off-center from the logo and that's kind of bugging me XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 06, 2010, 06:57:58 am
I want the shirt!!! XD (even through I can't wear it if I got one).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 06, 2010, 08:02:42 am
Why can't Yayoi just keep the hairstyle she has in her Christmas dlc? Life is so unfair.

yayoi hairstyle change ? but I don't see any different in pv 1
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 06, 2010, 08:07:56 am
yayoi hairstyle change ? but I don't see any different in pv 1
Yayoi didn't get a hairstyle change. He wanted a hairstyle change, though, that's what he's saying XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 09:24:46 am
You know that 2nd Christmas costume yayoi wears? Not many people notice that her twintails are farther apart.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 06, 2010, 10:05:06 am
Yes, her twin tails spread more (shifted) to the side, and this make her a lot more cute with Christmas costume. XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q38jZln6x50
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 06, 2010, 11:16:50 am
._. But, nope. Time to play as a producer and molest loli again!

And the problem is?  ???
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 06, 2010, 02:58:51 pm
I just noticed the 765 Pro (http://765pro.jp/) AND the 961 Pro (http://961pro.jp/) websites are under maintenance.

765 Pro is understandable but 961 Pro...?
Does he have a few more tricks up his sleeves?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 06, 2010, 03:07:33 pm
Well in the plot of Im@s 2. The spies debuted in 765 Pro so
that means that he still have some awesome tricks Oops i mean "Art".
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 03:35:28 pm
You guys need to take me seriously more often...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 06, 2010, 04:15:27 pm
Yes, her twin tails spread more (shifted) to the side, and this make her a lot more cute with Christmas costume. XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q38jZln6x50

 ;D I don't see so much different between the normal one and the Chrismas costume >.<

but if you say so, that must be correct  :D

I just noticed the 765 Pro (http://765pro.jp/) AND the 961 Pro (http://961pro.jp/) websites are under maintenance.

765 Pro is understandable but 961 Pro...?
Does he have a few more tricks up his sleeves?

may be they join those 2 pro ? because for the idolmaster 2 there is no more 961....  ???
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 04:21:02 pm
Says who? There was certainly no press release stating there won't be 961.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 06, 2010, 04:27:07 pm
This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/Ricchanin876.jpg) was going around on Twitter.
胸が熱くなるな。
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 06, 2010, 04:29:24 pm
This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/Ricchanin876.jpg) was going around on Twitter.
胸が熱くなるな。

lol awesome

BTW, I noticed a group of photos on the wall behind Ritsuko. Cameo appearances by the staff or just random blobs?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 06, 2010, 04:38:04 pm
Hmm, upon closer inspection, Yayoi's stockings bite into her legs (http://moeidolatry.com/wp-content/uploads/misc/yayoislegs.jpg)... Was it always like that int he previous games? o_O

This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/Ricchanin876.jpg) was going around on Twitter.
胸が熱くなるな。

Wow...what implications would that bring @_@
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 04:48:39 pm
Hmm, upon closer inspection, Yayoi's stockings bite into her legs (http://moeidolatry.com/wp-content/uploads/misc/yayoislegs.jpg)... Was it always like that int he previous games?

....for some reason...I'm okay with this.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 06, 2010, 04:59:56 pm
Says who? There was certainly no press release stating there won't be 961.

well that's only my conclusion when I see the 1st pv nothing show any 961. only 765... well if there is 961 it's ok

just in my mind, don't know the truth yet
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 06, 2010, 05:18:17 pm
....for some reason...I'm okay with this.

So am I... but I didn't realise Yayoi even had meat on her bones, unless of course, being an idol for a few months gives her the luxury of being full after meals?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 05:37:33 pm
.....or maybe....she still can't afford stockings her size! ;A;

I'm starting to like Chihaya's rounder look too.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 06, 2010, 05:44:55 pm
.....or maybe....she still can't afford stockings her size! ;A;

I'm starting to like Chihaya's rounder look too.

Never thought of it that way...I'll go with that explanation :3

And same about Chihaya, plus I'm actually warming up to Haruka's ever so slight hair change... kinda.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 06, 2010, 06:09:27 pm
Hmm, upon closer inspection, Yayoi's stockings bite into her legs (http://moeidolatry.com/wp-content/uploads/misc/yayoislegs.jpg)... Was it always like that int he previous games? o_O
I believe that's how the stockings work. Well, this shows how the detail of new model closer to the actual clothes, isn't it. Believe me, there're a lot more we can inspect when it is released. (Pervert Inspection) XD

This screenshot (http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/Ricchanin876.jpg) was going around on Twitter.
胸が熱くなるな。
Hope that doesn't mean she's out to work for 876...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 06, 2010, 06:44:09 pm
it seems like the websites are still under maintenence.
Let's hope theres something big waiting for us under all that construction!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 06, 2010, 06:50:43 pm
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8744/imas212.jpg)

Pic conveniently stolen from gamespot jp (http://japan.gamespot.com/xbox360/news/story/0,3800075348,20416200,00.htm)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 06, 2010, 07:01:11 pm
looks shiny very nice.
Looks like the others were in the 2nd trailer, then.
And it also gives us a glimps at five-idol-squads.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 07:21:56 pm
Not liking Ritsuko's hairstlye on-stage...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 06, 2010, 07:28:41 pm
wow man can produce up to 5 idol.... this really get more interesting
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 06, 2010, 07:32:18 pm
FIVE!, FIVE!, 5 Idols on the stage! I better be ready for epic concerts!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 06, 2010, 07:42:55 pm
The closer we get to Girl's Generation the better.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on July 06, 2010, 08:08:08 pm
I was wondering if they were going to do like this but I was thinking more like six idols on stage. Also, what if the 876 Pro idols were put in 961 Pro?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 06, 2010, 08:09:40 pm
5 people ACCIDENT!?
lets bring in the fire extinguisher guys.

oh man they bring old songs, i wanna see how the dance looks like with 5 people.
especially do-dai
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on July 06, 2010, 08:49:32 pm
Oh my, 5 idols on stage at the same time?

And the new hairstyles will take some adjustments. As for Yukiho's voice, I'm kind of worried, because a voice actor switch happened with Pokemon, and I STILL haven't gotten used to the new voice actors and want the old ones back, even though it's been YEARS since the switch.

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 06, 2010, 09:14:12 pm
I just thought of something...

... what if the old models in Im@s 1 (with the hairstyle and all) were released as DLC?

... I am smiling at the prospect, and would totally drop money for that.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 06, 2010, 09:19:16 pm
I just thought of something...

... what if the old models in Im@s 1 (with the hairstyle and all) were released as DLC?

... I am smiling at the prospect, and would totally drop money for that.


I was hoping more for unlock-able alternative outfits of this, but hey, I would drop money for it too XD;

Anyways, the screenshot I'm guessing is from The world is all one!! performance.  I can't say I like Ritsuko nor Iori on the stage actually...  But man I want to see chaos happen with 5 people on stage.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 06, 2010, 10:00:37 pm
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8744/imas212.jpg)
Looks good to me :D Excited about 5 idols at once and do want to see their crazy accidents that will ensue
I'll refrain from commenting on Ritsuko or Iori's on-stage styles 'till I see them actually in motion. XD

I wish I wasn't going out of town for this next week. I don't want to miss seeing PV2 when it arrives XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 06, 2010, 10:09:37 pm
I tried my best to translate The World is All One!!, enjoy.

空見(sorami)上げ(age)手(te)を(wo)つなごう(tsunagou)
この(kono)空(sora)は(wa)輝い(kagayai)てる(teru)
世界中(sekaijuu)の(no)手(te)を(wo)とり(tori)
The world is all one!!
Unity mind.
ねえ(nee)、この(kono)世界(sekai)で(de)
ねえ(nee)、いくつ(ikutsu)の(no)出会い(deai)
どれ(dore)だけ(dake)の(no)人(hito)が(ga)笑っ(wara)てる(tteru)の(no)?
ねえ(nee)、泣く(naku)も(mo)一生(isshoo)
ねえ(nee)、笑う(warau)も(mo)一生(isshoo)
ならば(naraba)笑っ(wara)て(tte)
生きよう(ikiyou)よ(yo)一緒(issho)に(ni)
顔(kao)を(o)上げ(age)て(te)みんな(minna)笑顔(egao)
力(chikara)あわせ(awase)て(te)光(hikari)目指し(mezashi)
世界(sekai)に(ni)は(wa)友達(tomodachi)
一緒(issho)に(ni)進む(susumu)友達(tomodachi)
いる(iru)こと(koto)を(wo)忘れ(wasure)ない(nai)で(de)!

ひとり(hitori)で(de)は(wa)出来(deki)ない(nai)こと(koto)
仲間(nakama)と(to)なら(nara)出来る(dekiru)こと(koto)
乗り越え(norikoe)られる(rareru)の(no)は(wa)
Unity is strength
空見(sorami)上げ(age)手(te)を(wo)つなごう(tsunagou)
この(kono)空(sora)は(wa)つながっ(tsunaga)てる(tteru)
世界中(sekaijuu)の(no)手(te)を(wo)とり(tori)
The world is all one!!
Unity mind.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 06, 2010, 11:43:07 pm
5 idol at once?
Think how hard it is to maintain their tensions and memories.
In stage I think it's awesome.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 06, 2010, 11:43:23 pm
I'm not liking Ritsuko hair style at all seems to business woman like to me and not idol like.  Hopefully there will be a option to change hair styles, if not then I guess it will be ok.  Just gotta live with it.  The models seems more like Dream Club it seems.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 06, 2010, 11:57:40 pm
The models seems more like Dream Club it seems.
I was wondering what I was being reminded of.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: s8C on July 07, 2010, 12:02:26 am
5 people ACCIDENT!?
lets bring in the fire extinguisher guys.

oh man they bring old songs, i wanna see how the dance looks like with 5 people.
especially do-dai

I want five-girl Overmaster.

With that dance at least one of them is getting roundhoused at some point.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 07, 2010, 02:08:16 am

 The 961, and 765 websites are still underconstruction. And I noticed Miki's hairstyle from 'The Blue' cover art looks alot like her updated hairdo.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 04:01:15 am
I'm in purging mode right now.

I too can go all day, or at least, until Yuna wakes up.

Also, everyone please refrain from acknowledging this guy.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 07, 2010, 04:13:57 am
awwwww you deteled my post and I just end editing it :(

**************

I fell kinda bad with the fact that I didn't played the games, just the DS one that gave me some hours of fun. even though I own all the games .-.

I never was able to get a J360 or a psp.

...
I want "私はアイドル" with 5 idols :D

*****************
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on July 07, 2010, 04:27:29 am
wow, 5 idols at once :D Hare Hare Yukai plz? :3 *shot*
I have to admit, I was a little disapointed to hear that the SP plot was being retconed ._. I trust Namco, though. They know what they're doing.
Hmm, I wonder what Kuroi is up to? Maybe he'll hire those angel guys?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 07, 2010, 04:31:05 am
well I just see the 1st pv again, and then I realize 5 idol in 1 stage is a little difficult just you can see in the 1st pv there is only 3 idol. if they put 5 idol the screen will be full  :D don't know if 5 idol in 1 stage will become reality.

but I hope also 5 idol in the same stage will be great
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 07, 2010, 04:35:55 am
Hmm, I wonder what Kuroi is up to? Maybe he'll hire those angel guys?
You mean the ones that were posted up a couple pages back? its possible but i personally don't think we'll have a major antagonist in iM@S 2. i could be wrong though
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 07, 2010, 04:41:30 am
I'm not expert in coreography and all that stuff. but I dont think ill be that dificult to fill the screen, i'll be happy to be at 5LPS Lolis Per Stage, SNDS are like...9? and they do well :D (maybe a bad example...)

hope they dont deceive us in the 2nd PV
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 07, 2010, 04:45:34 am
yeah, hope the 2nd pv bring more system that we will satisfied
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 07, 2010, 05:04:42 am
5 idols in one stage is a great edition to this game.  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on July 07, 2010, 05:52:45 am
@.@ Just thinking of all of the combinations is crazy.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 07, 2010, 05:54:08 am
Sorry if this was already posted but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVzCqySIZs

I...I don't know how to react to this.... :-\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 07, 2010, 05:59:47 am
Both official sites of 765pro and 961pro are under construction...

http://765pro.jp/ (http://765pro.jp/)
http://961pro.jp/ (http://961pro.jp/)

Does this tell us anything?  ::)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 07, 2010, 06:07:18 am
Sorry if this was already posted but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVzCqySIZs

I...I don't know how to react to this.... :-\

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/e/5/e5230cd9.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 07, 2010, 06:38:41 am
Both official sites of 765pro and 961pro are under construction...

http://765pro.jp/ (http://765pro.jp/)
http://961pro.jp/ (http://961pro.jp/)

Does this tell us anything?  ::)

So the 961 might be back. Let's see...
We can pick 5 idols,
and what if the rest (those are not chosen) join 961 ? :o
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 07, 2010, 06:39:16 am
Sorry if this was already posted but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVzCqySIZs

I...I don't know how to react to this.... :-\

youuu..... make my eyes burn... ARGGGG.......... NOOOO..........

Both official sites of 765pro and 961pro are under construction...

http://765pro.jp/ (http://765pro.jp/)
http://961pro.jp/ (http://961pro.jp/)

Does this tell us anything?  ::)

imo this tell us in the idolmaster 2 the 765pro and 961pro will collaboration.... may be.... as you can see in the first pv no info about 961pro
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 06:47:26 am
You can't possibly think that everything the game has to offer was shown off in that one trailer, can you?

Absurd. You people really can't trust me, huh?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 07, 2010, 07:15:04 am
You can't possibly think that everything the game has to offer was shown off in that one trailer, can you?

Absurd. You people really can't trust me, huh?

that's why waiting for the other pv and information
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 07, 2010, 08:02:47 am
Quote
Sorry if this was already posted but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVzCqySIZs

I...I don't know how to react to this....

advertising beyond my comprehension....  make me wanna buy without thinking.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: kozu on July 07, 2010, 10:24:06 am
Sorry if this was already posted but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVzCqySIZs

I...I don't know how to react to this.... :-\

That my friend, is world class marketing right there.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 07, 2010, 11:06:04 am
Sorry if this was already posted but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVzCqySIZs

I...I don't know how to react to this.... :-\
It's the advertisement idea of a genius.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: satty on July 07, 2010, 11:31:46 am
My brother was the one who told me of this :P. Anyway, from what I've seen on the trailers, I like some of the new designs for everyone, especially on how Ritsuko, Mami, and Miki look now. Makoto and Iori's redesign surprised me, but everyone else's redesign didn't catch any attention. Azusa's was the one that I didn't like at first, but it's growing on me.

Gameplay-wise, managing a 3-idol unit is a bit much for me, and with the option to go up to 5, oh boy....

And I think it was wise of Microsoft to get this as an exclusive, since the 360's always been usually way behind in Japan, but I hope Namco Bandai is able to release this on, say, the PS3.

Sorry if this was already posted but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVzCqySIZs

I...I don't know how to react to this.... :-\

Aww...that's cute.  :P
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 07, 2010, 03:39:30 pm
Here's the info everyone's been waiting for...
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/72.jpg)

Makoto 159cm 75・57・78
Takane 169cm 90・62・92
Hibiki 152cm 83・56・80
Yayoi 145cm 74・54・78
Chihaya 162cm 72・55・78
Miki 161cm 86・55・83
Haruka 158cm 83・56・82
Yukiho 155cm 81・56・81
Mami 158cm 78・55・77
Ami 158cm 78・55・77
Iori 153cm 77・54・79
Azusa 168cm 91・59・86
Ritsuko 156cm 85・57・85

Changes:
Haruka (17)    158 / 45 / 83 / 56 / 80 → 158(+0) / 45 / 83(+0) / 56(+0) / 82(+2)
Chihaya (16)    162 / 41 / 72 / 55 / 78 → 162(+0) / 41 / 72(+0) / 55(+0) / 78(+0)
Yukiho (17)    154 / 40 / 80 / 55 / 81 → 155(+1) / 40 / 81(+1) / 56(+1) / 81(+0)
Yayoi(14)   145 / 37 / 72 / 54 / 77 → 145(+0) / 37 / 74(+2) / 54(+0) / 78(+1)
Ritsuko(19)    156 / 43 / 85 / 57 / 85 → 156(+0) / 43 / 85(+0) / 57(+0) / 85(+0)
Iori(15)    150 / 39 / 77 / 54 / 79 → 153(+3) / 39 / 77(+0) / 54(+0) / 79(+0)
Makoto(17)      157 / 42 / 73 / 56 / 76 → 159(+2) / 42 / 75(+2) / 57(+1) / 78(+2)
Azusa(21)   168 / 48 / 91 / 59 / 86 → 168(+0) / 48 / 91(+0) / 59(+0) / 86(+0)
Ami & Mami(13) 149 / 39 / 74 / 53 / 77 → 158(+9) / 39 / 78(+4) / 55(+2) / 77(+0)
Miki (15)    159 / 44 / 84 / 55 / 82 → 161(+2) / 44 / 86(+2) / 55(+0) / 83(+1)
Hibiki(16)      152 / 41 / 86 / 58 / 83 → 152(+0) / 41 / 83(-3) / 56(-2) / 80(-3) 
Takane(18)     169 / 49 / 90 / 62 / 92 → 169(+0) / 49 / 90(+0) / 62(+0) / 92(+0)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 07, 2010, 03:51:10 pm
thanks for the info! now all thats left is the 2nd PV and to hear yukiho's new voice...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 07, 2010, 03:52:20 pm
Let's see. [pervert mode]

Old measurements for reference (SP Guide book):

Makoto: 157cm 73-56-76
Takane: 169cm 90-62-92
Hibiki: 152cm 86-58-83
Yayoi: 145cm 72-54-77
Chihaya: 162cm 72-55-78
Miki: 159cm 84-55-82
Haruka: 158cm 83-56-80
Yukiho: 154cm 80-55-81
Mami: 149cm 74-53-77
Ami: 149cm 74-53-77
Iori: 150cm 77-54-79
Azusa: 168cm 91-59-86
Ritsuko: 156cm 85-57-85

Hibiki's bust became...smaller.   :-X

 :'(

HUGE growth spurt in height for the twins, but generally everyone grew a couple of centimeters and have more shapely bodies.

EDIT: Dammit, nowano. Beaten to the punch.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 07, 2010, 03:52:51 pm
Ah, but HibiHam you're forgetting 961!

Great stats btw
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 07, 2010, 04:55:55 pm
Ami/Mami are now having the same height as Haruka as I inspected. q^ ^p
9 centimeters taller within a year!? q0_op
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 07, 2010, 05:07:51 pm
I see some of the idols boobs have grown bigger over the past year (With the exception to Hibiki which has shrunk over the past year).  Ami and Mami sure have gotten taller in the past year. Puberty was really kind to the Futami twins. XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 07, 2010, 05:26:40 pm
lol 72

I was never a huge fan of the Futami twins but my god I love their growth spurt...mmm legs...

Though I wonder why Hibiki shrunk? o_O
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 07, 2010, 05:34:52 pm
So Makoto mentioning that "they're developing, you know" in DS was a clue for things to come.

As for Hibiki getting smaller... apart from the parallel world setting seen in every Im@s game, 961 Pro could have added a few centimeters onto her profile, then she changed to her real measurements once in 765 Pro?
It's like how Haruka changed from "45 kg" to "about 45 kg."

[edit1]
If anyone wants to hear Im@s 2 Yukiho sing, they can get a preview here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idKsiYfUVQY), the part from 0:52.

[edit2]
New catch phrase and mottos:

 貴音:「わたくしは、確かめたいのです。目指していた高みから見える景色を」
    礼儀ただしく、高貴なプリンセス?その正体は一切の謎!

 響:「ふふん!自分についてくれば、トップアイドルなんてなんくるないさー!」
   明るく無邪気な南国少女。どんな困難もなんくるないさー!

 春香:「天海春香17歳、トップアイドル、目指してます!」
    歌とお菓子と友達が大好きっ!前のめりに元気な女の子!

 美希:「ミキ、アイドルするの、結構本気だよ?」
    才能をムダ遣いする、肉食小悪魔系オンナノコ

 千早:「私には、歌以外に失って困るものなんて、ありませんから」
    歌に全てを賭ける、孤独で、物静かな少女

 やよい:「うっうー、アイドル日本一、大変そうですけど、がんばりまーす!!」
    いつも元気印!等身大の庶民派アイドル☆

 真:「ボクの乙女パワーで、ガツーンとトップ獲りに行きますよ、プロデューサー」
   いつも元気いっぱい!青空のような女の子っ!

 雪歩:「私、どこまでやれるかわかりませんけど、頑張りますっ!」
   いつもオドオドしてるけど、芯の強さはピカイチの女の子!

 真美:「んっふっふ~!兄ちゃんは真美の彼氏になれるのかな~?」
   ついにソロデビュー!実は努力家の双海姉妹の癒し系(真美談)

 亜美:「亜美は、真美より超メチャイケで、ボンッキュッボンなアイドルだよ~!」
   双子の戦い、一歩リード中!キュートすぎる双海姉妹のかわいい系(亜美談)

 伊織:「世界一キュートな。超スーパーアイドル伊織ちゃんとは、私のことよっ!にひひっ♪」
   怒られるとクセになる!?ワガママ、かわいいお嬢様!

 あずさ:「私、しっかりしないといけませんよね。事務所の皆のためにも!」
     笑顔と体?に癒される!やすらぎお姉さんアイドル!

 律子:「トップアイドルを目指したい?それなら、私に任せてください!」
    いつもテキパキ、しっかり者!事務所の影の支配者!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on July 07, 2010, 06:01:35 pm
Well, all her other measurements went down too, so she could've lost weight.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 07, 2010, 06:07:56 pm
Chihaya +0  Talk about bad luck. But its nice to know theres one idol who hasn't changed at all DFC
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 07, 2010, 06:55:35 pm
no... why takane still 90...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 07, 2010, 07:03:54 pm
Takane should have changed physically at least a little bit to show she aged.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 07, 2010, 07:34:01 pm
Takane should have changed physically at least a little bit to show she aged.
I don't think that's a good idea.
This will happen if they try to make her look a year older... ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/CienZero/Idolmaster/Takane%20Shijou/1278196390275.png)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 07, 2010, 08:16:12 pm
I don't think that's a good idea.
This will happen if they try to make her look a year older... ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/CienZero/Idolmaster/Takane%20Shijou/1278196390275.png)

oh no.... not like that
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 07, 2010, 08:36:30 pm
if you guys thought that was creepy...
http://i36.tinypic.com/kb7om0.jpg
WARNING this will scar you

it will be next to your bed in the middle of the night, staring at you when you open your eyes, and when you blink its gone, the thing is out to get you, chasing you,  appearing only in dark places staring at you though the shadows :K oh yeah, its also my best friend.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 07, 2010, 08:38:29 pm
Yukiho's preview sounds freaking great. I could tell it was her right away, too.
The sites are still under maintenence. This better be something big it's mean about two days already.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 07, 2010, 08:42:03 pm
if you guys thought that was creepy...
http://i36.tinypic.com/kb7om0.jpg
WARNING this will scar you

it will be next to your bed in the middle of the night, staring at you when you open your eyes, and when you blink its gone, the thing is out to get you, chasing you,  appearing only in dark places staring at you though the shadows :K oh yeah, its also my best friend

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3876/usacan1.jpg) (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/usacan1.jpg/) no need for words......
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 07, 2010, 08:51:17 pm
Yukiho's preview sounds freaking great. I could tell it was her right away, too.
The sites are still under maintenence. This better be something big it's mean about two days already.
Thats good news.

*averts eyes from creepy photo*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 07, 2010, 09:40:31 pm
Damnit guys, Taco scared me before with that picture all the time (the takane one; that iori one is pretty scary too),

And every time I see that ad -- I cry for like two minutes.

I think Takane is fine with no change, I mean, she's 18 now -- don't... girls stop growing at 18? (I"M NOT SURE AND I"M A GIRL).

I really liked the mix of relations -- I couldn't really tell that it was the new Yukiho there .___.; I actually thought it was Iori or something.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on July 07, 2010, 10:21:12 pm
don't... girls stop growing at 18? (I"M NOT SURE AND I"M A GIRL).

Yeah. Generally speaking, we stop growing somewhere between 14 and 18. Apparently I stopped growing at 14 D=

Also, that Iori pic is adorable~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on July 08, 2010, 02:10:15 am
...how did Hibiki-san shrink in bust size?
That's my question
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 08, 2010, 02:15:06 am
...how did Hibiki-san shrink in bust size?
That's my question

She was always that bust size, they just found out that she was padding.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on July 08, 2010, 02:58:01 am
She was always that bust size, they just found out that she was padding.

What, like Ryo-san?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on July 08, 2010, 03:00:05 am
Hibiki is the new Sakuya.

*gets hit by ZA WARUDO*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 08, 2010, 03:09:44 am
She was always that bust size, they just found out that she was padding.
Seriously??  Thats not to shocking since without she would have had the smallest bust out of 961. I had just assumed it was cause of weight loss.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: satty on July 08, 2010, 03:16:16 am
Hibiki is the new Sakuya.

*gets hit by ZA WARUDO*

...Not pulling the knives out of you.

Anyway, that seems pretty funny that Hibiki's bust goes down.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Garmr on July 08, 2010, 03:51:54 am
Honestly I'm still kinda chuckling about the fact that Chihaya's still got the smallest chest there with even Yayoi having pulled ahead of her (weren't they the same size before?) seeing as how she along with Ritsuko, Azusa, and Takane were the only ones with no change.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 08, 2010, 04:04:41 am
Hibiki is the new Sakuya.

*gets hit by ZA WARUDO*

more like chihaya
she be using that ipad to enlarge her chest

give hibiki eye of sauron on her chest, a cape, large black wings, a green skirt and a orage colored megabuster
cannot unsee x2
oh and lets not forget to pull out her brain
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=2318617
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 08, 2010, 06:14:50 am
Seriously??  Thats not to shocking since without she would have had the smallest bust out of 961. I had just assumed it was cause of weight loss.

Not serious at about it, but it could be real seeing how she did lose some of her size...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 08, 2010, 10:01:41 am
Not serious at about it, but it could be real seeing how she did lose some of her size...

lol, so finally hibiki size reduce ? lol

but it's still like she is using a pad... lol
83 ?
just like haruka
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 08, 2010, 02:56:23 pm
thought i should share this amazing work of art:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKUX9L9sVaY
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 08, 2010, 03:26:07 pm
i love the new desing of Ritsuko,Miki and especially Iori ... for the tons of comments that i have read in the web, i was thinking that i am the only one who liked azusa´s new look at first glance?.....
a year has past so the change is obvious but just is some idols.... :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 08, 2010, 04:06:48 pm
thought i should share this amazing work of art:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKUX9L9sVaY

That was err... interesting..
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 08, 2010, 04:30:16 pm
i was thinking that i am the only one who liked azusa´s new look at first glance?.....

I actually don't mind it either~


thought i should share this amazing work of art:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKUX9L9sVaY

OH MY GOD THAT IS BEAUTIFUL OTL
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 08, 2010, 09:50:51 pm
Theres still maintenence in http://961pro.jp/ & http://765pro.jp/ . This is like, ay 3 of construction. THREE. Theres either something huge going on at the other side of that html code or Namco really wants us to sit and wait on construction that will never finish.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 08, 2010, 10:01:18 pm
http://i28.tinypic.com/2qdy807.png
see ya later yurishii ;_;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on July 08, 2010, 10:59:56 pm
Here's my theories about the songs:
1. Based on the THE IDOLM@STER remix in the trailer, they're going to revamp the old songs.
2. They're going to do go the Dearly Stars route and give us a combination of the old songs and some of them as unlockables.
3. We're going to get a completely new catalog of songs (probably the ones that were in the trailer) and maybe have the old songs as DLC.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 08, 2010, 11:41:16 pm
Hmm... I'm going to be adventurous and state the following.

Flower Girl and Next Life will be in.
New songs for every other character.
The Idolm@ster... might be in. I say no. EDIT: *rereads previous post* Oh... yeah, that PV has a remix. It could be BGM, but I guess the song might be produceable.
I guess now that I think about it, shared character songs... two songs with two idols, three songs with three idols.
Oh yeah, The World is All One will be in.
Total of 19 songs, which is totally doable (SP came with 17 plus a unique character song for 18). Any more might be overkill for a Spring release.

Old songs will be DLC that will come out fast. The first couple of months will probably be filled with old song DLC.

And with that, Cael's Precog time is now over.

EDIT: Next week's Idolm@ster Station will have Asakura-san as a guest. Anyone who understands Japanese well enough can listen in and see what they can get out of the show.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 09, 2010, 12:53:03 am
Theres still maintenence in http://961pro.jp/ & http://765pro.jp/ . This is like, ay 3 of construction. THREE. Theres either something huge going on at the other side of that html code or Namco really wants us to sit and wait on construction that will never finish.

I'm sure they're just waiting for an appropriate time and not working their butts off 3 days straight.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 09, 2010, 01:07:07 am
I'm sure they're just waiting for an appropriate time and not working their butts off 3 days straight.

im sure with all that money you'd be able to hire at least microsoft to fix it up the site for you meng
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 09, 2010, 01:08:03 am
Dang it, I keep thinking of things. The ranking chart in the PV... could those be the titles of some of the songs that're coming out?

Maybe not, when I think about some of the names, but still...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 09, 2010, 01:09:24 am
im sure with all that money you'd be able to hire at least microsoft to fix it up the site for you meng

They're revamping the site, not fixing it.

Sorry, poor choice of words. I meant improving.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 09, 2010, 04:02:52 am
Dang it, I keep thinking of things. The ranking chart in the PV... could those be the titles of some of the songs that're coming out?

Maybe not, when I think about some of the names, but still...
It's likely, though I'm thinking they're just placeholder names.
I mean, Dot Eat Everyday doesn't sound like a song in Im@s.

New Yukiho voice up on mobile site, and I'm relieved.
Sounds like the good ol' Yukiho.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 09, 2010, 04:19:18 am

New Yukiho voice up on mobile site, and I'm relieved.
Sounds like the good ol' Yukiho.

Same here. She is still the same Yukiho-chan I know and love.  :)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 09, 2010, 06:39:35 am
now VA, same role with the nearly same voice

that's great
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 09, 2010, 06:50:05 am
now VA, same role with the nearly same voice

that's great

Yeah at first when i heard the VA of Yukiho would be changed i was like "damn is not going to be the same feeling"
but i was wrong and that's good
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 09, 2010, 06:55:48 am
How about assuming that tiny difference as the change of grown up Yukiho?
Well she grow up in both age and profession, right?
Even me actually hope that there'd be a little change in Futami twins's voices (as they grow too much).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 09, 2010, 07:05:59 am
How about assuming that tiny difference as the change of grown up Yukiho?
Well she grow up in both age and profession, right?
Good idea from now on i can think in that way every time i hear yukiho new voice
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 09, 2010, 07:49:36 am
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11326339 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11326339)
Asakura Azumi sounds much better than I expected. ゆりしー大解僱!!

Voice comparison. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11326824) Can you tell the difference? ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 09, 2010, 08:14:33 am
Its barely noticable If they didn't tell me there was two different voices i wouldn't have be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 09, 2010, 10:14:59 am
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11326339 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11326339)
Asakura Azumi sounds much better than I expected. ゆりしー大解僱!!

Voice comparison. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11326824) Can you tell the difference? ;D

holy crap theres like almost no difference in her voice other than when she yells
splendid job there, yurishii shall be proud
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 09, 2010, 11:18:12 am
Voice comparison. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11326824) Can you tell the difference? ;D

The voice in that is much different than Yukiho.

In fact, it sounds like an announcer telling me the video's been taken off the internets. They sure were fast about this one.

But yeah... could be sound quality or just my own hearing, but the voice is slightly different. I really think this when she yells, yeah. Really though... there's very little that's different about her new voice.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 09, 2010, 12:49:25 pm
Now I can feel relief with new Yukiho. She looks fine for both speech and singing.
As I said, let's assume the tiny difference as the change of grown up Yukiho in both age and profession.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 09, 2010, 12:55:00 pm
Just like the same but different in yelling.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 09, 2010, 07:25:08 pm
Wow~
I'm actually impressed at Asakura's Yukiho. I agree about the yelling aspect but other than that, it's really hard to tell. I actually like her voice as Yukiho. A lot.

*APPROVED*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 09, 2010, 08:19:14 pm
The voice in that is much different than Yukiho.

In fact, it sounds like an announcer telling me the video's been taken off the internets. They sure were fast about this one.

I wanted to hear the voice comparison too ;-; (why do I always laugh at how nico takes down their videos though)

I'm pretty much with everyone here, feels the same -- but I like her screaming voice. XD;;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 09, 2010, 08:32:26 pm
GamiP's interview on IM@S 2
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/interview/interview55.htm
I'll do a translation later if you guys want to, or someone else can do it for me :K since im lazy
aaaand this
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/games/i/idolmaster2/

also, the director for im@s DS left NBGI according to these
http://twitter.com/CAMEKOJ/status/18046243832
http://twitter.com/CAMEKOJ/status/13537483694
"It seems people are starting to follow me through the wiki, but... I dont have any connection with IM@S anymore."
he also states that his ex-co-workers hate him, and how he's jobless

so nope, no 876 idols in im@s 2
or at least i think so according to these
and i hope so too
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 09, 2010, 09:06:05 pm
That's what you get for making bad doujin games.

You get kicked out of your doujin circle.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 09, 2010, 10:06:59 pm
also, the director for im@s DS left NBGI according to these
http://twitter.com/CAMEKOJ/status/18046243832
http://twitter.com/CAMEKOJ/status/13537483694
Wow, just wow.

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 09, 2010, 10:14:43 pm
GamiP's interview on IM@S 2
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/interview/interview55.htm
I'll do a translation later if you guys want to, or someone else can do it for me :K since im lazy

Yesh please...if you're not too lazy

he also states that his ex-co-workers hate him, and how he's jobless

Wow o_O;
...Oh well のヮの


Anyway, now I'm just curious on Asakura's singing voice~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 09, 2010, 11:21:37 pm
Since I'm lazy too, I'll just translate the captions!

For everything not about the concert: These are in-development pictures and designs.
The first for the concert: The Idolm@ster live starts! [Translator: Idol names and voice actresses' names listed.] for a total of all 12 on stage.
The last for the concert: The new song, The world is all one!!, debuts. The PV that features this song is available for free at XBox LIVE Marketplace. (Download link (http://marketplace.xbox.com/ja-JP/games/offers/0bbf0001-0000-4000-8000-00004e4d0818))

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EDIT: Fine, I'll do the last part, but I think we all know what's in it.

The 5th Memorial Live, "THE IDOLM@STER 5th ANNIVERSARY The world is all one !!" took place on 3-4 July, 2010, at Makuhari Messe. Many producers across the country gathered together to revel in awesomeness [translator: yeah, took a few liberties] at what could be called the compilation of Idolm@ster's 5 years of history.

The live started with the series' best songs of 2010, then continued to the songs of 2007 - 2009, and to the songs not released in the games, as if the concert was going through Im@s' own history. During intermission [translator: 間合 I guess means intermission, someone correct me if I'm wrong], the PVs for each game starting with the arcade version were shown. The live itself was as if Live For You were brought to reality. Voltage raised as the audience's combined their voices in support of the performers. [translator: is my laziness showing yet?]

And, at the end of the live, there was a surprise announcement of The Idolm@ster 2! [translator: no, it wasn't a surprise] At the moment it was revealed, the ground shook all across the venue as a loud roar encased it. The producer for this Im@s, Mr. Sakagami [translator: I'm guessing that's how it's read, and that he's a guy], had the new 765 Pro song, The world is all one !!, debut with all members singing it.

------

Yeah, didn't think too much about this one.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 09, 2010, 11:42:51 pm
Checked out the PV. Looks pretty good. Not as good as what the actual game will be like, which goes without saying, considering all trailers and screenshots are inferior to in-game content, but it's certainly a step above watching it through Youtube.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 10, 2010, 03:40:24 am
the first part just explains who the interviewee is and i think we all know who he is lol
anyways here the interview with GamiP on im@s2

-Please share with us the process of developing "Idolm@ster 2"

"Idolm@ster" was originally made for the arcade, but in 2007 we've released the title onto the xbox 360 console, and on top of that we've released "Idolm@ster Live for You!" in 2008, and while receiving many messages from players out there, I've been always thinking on what would bring the most entertainment to everyone.

After trying few different things, I believe that the message "Lets get along, and work together!" has a strong impact on the game. Along with players, being a producer of idols such as myself, we've also came up with a key quote 「俺らが一致団結(danketsu)して盛り上げていこう!」 "Let us unite and bring excitement!" became a natural feeling to us, and that quote brought us the theme danketsu(to unite). With that theme, I'd like to create our new idolm@ster game.

-Succeeding the original title, is there any enthusiasm for bringing the game to Xbox 360?

When it came to releasing The Idolm@ster for home consoles, high definition was only available for the Xbox 360 at the time, so this time I would like to release the sequel only for the Xbox 360 as well.

-Will you share with us the new changes and aspects of the game?

I'm not allowed to share with you much information yet, but the biggest change we've made in the game as you can see; now you produce idols solely in groups called "National idol unit producing". Previously you were able to produce idols as a solo, duo and trio unit, but now we've changed that so when you first start the game you're only able to produce as a trio unit and up. As you start the game, you chose the leader of your trio unit, and as you progress in game, the unit overcomes their tension, drama, and other issues and aims towards top idol in unity.

I cant share with you the deep fundamentals of the game, other than the game play you've seen up to now, you'll feel as if you've experienced something anew as we added additional new elements to the game.
on the other hand, we've simplified the game for people whom are familiar with "idolm@ster"

-Are there any changes to the story?

In the previous game, the idols were younger, but this time we've made is so that you're producing the idols half a year after they've debuted on their own. Each idol is a year older, so basically this is a "parallel world" kind of feeling.

-Please tell us the changes in the characters

The first change in the character are that they're a year older, and they've gained more experience during that year. Even though there are some girls are completely unchanged lol, The most obvious changes are as you can see; the hair styles of the characters. I thought that after half a year, during that time the girls would be thinking about various things, for example "Kikuchi Makoto" the girl who's self conscious on how boyish she looks, and wants to be more feminine thought "Maybe if i grew out my hair longer, I'd look a little more feminine". With that fact I've came to construct the appearance of the characters.

-Please tell us about the new additional characters

There are 2 new characters. First is Shijou Takane; a majestic, princess-like character. A girl with a mysterious past, with silver hair, and who is outstandingly good at singing. Next up we have Ganaha Hibiki, a character from Okinawa, who is an outgoing and cheerful girl, yet a little slow sometimes. She's a very energetic, animal-loving character.

-Are there any improvements in graphics and animation?

Well, we've completely remade the whole entire model and changing the faces and proportion. In the previous games there were times where shadows were too dark and bold, so we've made it a little more shallow, also adding more highlights and changing the graduation... instead of making it realistic CG, we've focused more on realistic in toon rendering animation. Comparing the stages to the previous game, the performances are strongly upgraded.

Also, we've put much effort in motion, as you can see you organize up to 5 idols on stage at once, and with 5 idols on stage we were thinking of adding a stage scene, and so when the idols dance on stage they'll give each other high fives, hold hands and try new and challenging dance combinations on stage with each other.
Technically we also have new and experienced staff members who've worked on different video games... or more like they've just piled up at our front door and said "I want to work on IM@S!" lol. Its very difficult to work on these motions and I think its going to be pretty exciting, so please stay tuned for more.

-What kind of build are you guys going to have on Xbox Live?

Including today's announcement, if there is anything I'd like to share, I'd like to share it on Xbox Live Marketplace. Transcending the release date, so far I haven't thought of anything for DLC yet lol, but the last game's DLC was well reviewed so I'd like to consider something around that area.

-Lastly, send the nation wide producers a message!

It's been 5 years since idolm@ster has been born into this world, I've very happy to announce the sequel of this game. I'd like to show my support for everyone not only in words, but through the product as well. Combining the idols strength, the "newly-made 765pro" will be restarted. Thank you everyone for your support!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 10, 2010, 04:10:45 am
That interview made me mad...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 10, 2010, 04:41:04 am
That interview made me mad...
I know DAMN YOU NAMCO AND YOUR EXCLUSIVITY

Its almost as if it kills them to let anyone outside of Japan play iDOLM@STER
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 10, 2010, 04:49:04 am
They're either getting blackmailed, bribed, or we just didnt send them enough fat man and little boys...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 10, 2010, 05:07:50 am
first, id like to say that yukiho's new voice sounds great.

secondly, i hope the game still allows options for solo versions of songs... I know it says 3-5 idols for performances, but sometimes solos are fun too.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 10, 2010, 05:12:49 am
They're making it exclusive because iM@S fans would feel betrayed if it were released for the PS3. It would probably sell better on the PS3 though. No actually, it would DEFINITELY sell better on the PS3. Also people like hatimaki would run riot with endless bragging.

I wonder if they'll make a limited edition iM@S Xbox 360 Slim? If so, I'll have to buy it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on July 10, 2010, 05:20:48 am
Forcing you to form a party of trios?  Sounds like they should of named this game Tales of Idolm@ster instead.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 10, 2010, 05:49:40 am
first, id like to say that yukiho's new voice sounds great.

secondly, i hope the game still allows options for solo versions of songs... I know it says 3-5 idols for performances, but sometimes solos are fun too.

the storymode/producing mode only allows trio and up producing, no solo or duo
but who knows, they might have a something like "office mode" from the SP games and allow solo or duo performances
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on July 10, 2010, 05:58:27 am
Its almost as if it kills them to let anyone outside of Japan play iDOLM@STER
I don't think so. I bet they are just trying to get more cash as possible. To quote Wikipedia's article on regional lockout.....

Quote
From the region lockers' point of view, the result is a higher income, less intra-brand competition (because there is no rivalry or free trade between competing territories), and greater control of price in affected markets.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 10, 2010, 06:45:31 am
Doesn't apply to idolmaster, since idolmaster basically has no form of competition outside of japan.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 10, 2010, 06:48:14 am
Just saw the Inside Xbox Idolm@ster Special by Rolling Uchizawa and Hikari Yamaguchi. I think Hikari's favourite idol is Yayoi. She actually plays through a vocal lesson without messing up! I wonder if it was edited a few times?

Anyway, the Namco Bandai building looks amazing. I'd love to go there. Maybe try to push for a Vesperia localization while I'm at it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 10, 2010, 06:54:45 am
Push? You better raid that building. I've been dieing for Vesperia on PS3.

Also, I'm almost positive that any game footage ever shown on inside xbox is always edited.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 10, 2010, 07:07:52 am
Off-topic: Vesperia was so good that I played through it once in 2008, then again in Japanese maxing all levels (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/elixir68k/20100501). Such a great game.

Apparently the Japanese PS3 version has English voice tracks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7aCrR-79A&feature=related) (don't know how they pulled the data from the disc, then again I don't know how they pulled the models from iM@S) where I believe the English VAs were sent back for additional voices... Namco might have decided not to localize it afterwards.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 10, 2010, 07:26:26 am
Thanks Cael K and H4ataraxia :3

Technically we also have new and experienced staff members who've worked on different video games... or more like they've just piled up at our front door and said "I want to work on IM@S!" lol. Its very difficult to work on these motions and I think its going to be pretty exciting, so please stay tuned for more.

If I knew more Japanese I'd be one of those guys who would want to work on the model/texture or animations -_-;

I'm actually surprised that the game is going to be exclusive for 360 again. If anything, I would of thought they'd release it on 360 and PS3.

I wonder if they'll make a limited edition iM@S Xbox 360 Slim? If so, I'll have to buy it.

As I said before, I both relish and dread this possibility. My income can only provide for so much ;_;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 10, 2010, 07:47:21 am
Cups of noodles.

Cups of noodles everywhere.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 10, 2010, 07:55:44 am
As I said before, I both relish and dread this possibility. My income can only provide for so much ;_;

Well, it's certainly possible but since the Slim can't use faceplates, it's a bit of a disappointment. I want to continue using my Miki faceplate and won't be able to do so. I think I'm going to wait and see if there's any images available before preorder, before comitting.

Actually, come to think of it... this would be a bigger issue as I have DLC across three accounts and they would only be playable on their respective accounts if I changed consoles. Even after license transfer...

Anyway, welcome back Kyunik, long time no see.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 10, 2010, 09:07:05 am
I wonder if they'll make a limited edition iM@S Xbox 360 Slim? If so, I'll have to buy it.

If that was to happen, I would be so broke over the fact it would cost 600 dollar or more.  Then I would wonder what am I going to do with my current JP 360.  Friends would most likely only want it for cheap being like 100 bucks.

I don't know how forcing you to do trio units will work out.  I know for sure I will miss doing solo and working on taking her to the top.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 10, 2010, 09:56:34 am
Cups of noodles.

Cups of noodles everywhere.

Humans can survive on nothing but cup noodle and soda for a week. I know.

They might be able to go longer, but I think at that point I snapped. Assuming I'm the average, humans can only continue eating the same food for a week before they really want something else. Or become aware that they're malnourished and attempt to eat better.

Back on topic...

Well, it's certainly possible but since the Slim can't use faceplates, it's a bit of a disappointment. I want to continue using my Miki faceplate and won't be able to do so. I think I'm going to wait and see if there's any images available before preorder, before comitting.

I got the Precious Album for the stickers mainly... but once I got it, I found I couldn't really bring myself to put the stickers on. They look so nice on those sheets...

They're making it exclusive because iM@S fans would feel betrayed if it were released for the PS3. It would probably sell better on the PS3 though.

The way I see it, most of the core audience already has the 360. I mean, they have the original game. A smaller amount of the core audience has the PSP, but no 360, coming in from SP. Even smaller still, own a DS for DS.

Between a PS3 and a 360 (in Japan)...
People with a PSP have a higher chance of also owning a PS3.
People with a DS have a higher chance of also owning a PS3.
People with neither a PSP or DS have a higher chance of just owning a PS3.

... So, I figure that most new people that would come into Im@s... would own a PS3 before a 360. So your core audience consists of people who own a 360, you have to release on that, but... is it that more expensive to develop for the PS3 as well now? Or, even scarier, were not that many people brought in over the years that there wouldn't be much profit to be made from the one system that most people in Japan who own a console system have?

However... from a quick read of the article, I'm not sure I picked up anything saying exclusivity, just that they really wanted to release for the 360 (without mentioning any other system). Maybe that's just me. Of course... I think it might be exclusive at this point. Maybe not, we can hope, maybe a year down the line at least.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on July 10, 2010, 02:00:59 pm
... So, I figure that most new people that would come into Im@s... would own a PS3 before a 360. So your core audience consists of people who own a 360, you have to release on that, but... is it that more expensive to develop for the PS3 as well now? Or, even scarier, were not that many people brought in over the years that there wouldn't be much profit to be made from the one system that most people in Japan who own a console system have?
Which kinda leads us to my point a while back. They probably just want more profit out of it, so making a game exclusively for one console is what would they normally do. If ever they plan to release it to another platform, I'm guessing we probably won't hear about it until some time later.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 10, 2010, 02:28:23 pm
I don't see why limiting access to a product would increase its profits. Explain.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 10, 2010, 02:32:39 pm
maybe the producer make a contract with microsoft so the game will only release on xbox
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 10, 2010, 04:04:22 pm
maybe the producer make a contract with microsoft so the game will only release on xbox
They broke it, since it came out on the PSP XD

Anyhow, back a few pages (I'm out of town so I'm missing all this iM@S stuff!!), did anyone happen to save the video of the Yukiho voice comparison? I want to hear it ;_; (NicoNico and Youtube are blocked on this computer OTZ)

Anyway, where I stand on region-lock...personally, considering how NGBI seems to be with raking in the cash of its fans, a PS3 release would've been great for them XD 2 consoles = more people that can buy the game. :( Which sounds like a deal to me.

but considering I already bought iM@S and L4U! without owning a 360, looks like I'm going to get one yet...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on July 10, 2010, 04:09:24 pm
The more I see of this the more excited I get. This may be a golden opportunity for me to get an asian 360 for Idolm@ster and more, since my american one got stolen. My PS3 will suffice for us titles. Idolm@ster! Here We Go!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 10, 2010, 04:13:57 pm
The more I see of this the more excited I get. This may be a golden opportunity for me to get an asian 360 for Idolm@ster and more, since my american one got stolen. My PS3 will suffice for us titles. Idolm@ster! Here We Go!
Thats the only reason im getting a Japanese Xbox 360.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 10, 2010, 04:38:20 pm
They broke it, since it came out on the PSP XD


hey man, you remind me that... lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 10, 2010, 05:22:01 pm
Thats the only reason im getting a Japanese Xbox 360.
I've already done it and I'm quite satisfied.

Although the ps3 has greater graphic capabilities right now so...they should get their priorities in order.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 10, 2010, 05:34:20 pm
Anyway, welcome back Kyunik, long time no see.

Surprised you remember me o_o;


The more I see of this the more excited I get. This may be a golden opportunity for me to get an asian 360 for Idolm@ster and more, since my american one got stolen.

Sucks that your US one got stolen =/
I actually got my JPN 360 back in 2006 in Japan, just as iM@S was announced so I was glad I did get one at the time. Then it died last year...which was lucky, cause I already scheduled to visit Japan again. Came home with another xbox ^^;

Anyhow, back a few pages (I'm out of town so I'm missing all this iM@S stuff!!), did anyone happen to save the video of the Yukiho voice comparison? I want to hear it ;_; (NicoNico and Youtube are blocked on this computer OTZ)

I'm also interested in the video but I watched the other video already and had to dig up a video I had of Yurishii's Yukiho talking on my HDD to compare. I was quite blown away at how similar they were @_@
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 10, 2010, 05:55:54 pm
GamiP's interview on IM@S 2
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/interview/interview55.htm
Thanks so much for the translation.
I wonder why I begin to get the face of GamiP as the actual face of Takagi shacho...

but considering I already bought iM@S and L4U! without owning a 360, looks like I'm going to get one yet...
That's exactly what I did! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 10, 2010, 06:22:21 pm
The more I see of this the more excited I get. This may be a golden opportunity for me to get an asian 360 for Idolm@ster and more, since my american one got stolen. My PS3 will suffice for us titles. Idolm@ster! Here We Go!
W, wait, you had your Xbox stolen? PSP I understand, heck even a Wii.
But Xbox? Xbox 360? Damn...

Related to Im@s 2, did the Idolmaster Mobile site for PC (http://info.idolmaster.jp/) get a new logo?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 10, 2010, 06:26:25 pm
Related to Im@s 2, did the Idolmaster Mobile site for PC (http://info.idolmaster.jp/) get a new logo?
I think so...last time I checked (which was a long time ago) it wasn't there.

I dislike that new logo. :(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on July 10, 2010, 06:28:11 pm
W, wait, you had your Xbox stolen? PSP I understand, heck even a Wii.
But Xbox? Xbox 360? Damn...

My 360 and my psp to be exact. So I can't even play SP
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 11, 2010, 06:51:16 am
My 360 and my psp to be exact. So I can't even play SP

may be it's time for buy a new xbox slim and PSP.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on July 11, 2010, 03:05:49 pm
may be it's time for buy a new xbox slim and PSP.

My thoughts exactly. My old psp was a 1000 series with a malfunctioning c-stick. A new 3000 series and a JP 360 slim, combined with my new PS3 should cover all my gaming needs
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: s8C on July 11, 2010, 10:55:27 pm
5 idol units makes me wonder what the beloved ACM and loli trios might evolve/mutate into.

ACMTY do want
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 12, 2010, 12:00:24 am
i want a jp 360 but is too expensive for me.... thats sad
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: KodeShikou on July 12, 2010, 06:48:47 am
Well, it gives us plenty of time to start saving funding for when it comes out. I know that's what I'm gonna start doing.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 12, 2010, 11:56:48 am
i want a jp 360 but is too expensive for me.... thats sad

why not asia type ? they are nearly same... both can play asia and japan region
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 12, 2010, 03:34:07 pm
why not asia type ? they are nearly same... both can play asia and japan region

really!? I didn't know  so in theory an Asia type of Xbox 360 can play Jp games......
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 12, 2010, 05:15:54 pm
really!? I didn't know  so in theory an Asia type of Xbox 360 can play Jp games......

yeah, well japan is still asia region in the globe... lol

all imas game is Jpn region but I bought my xbox in HK and I play it without any problem
and also Asia type is more cheaper then the Jpn
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 12, 2010, 07:02:50 pm
I knoiw for a fact i'm not allowed to get an XBOX, especially from Japan. So imma cross my fingers for a PS3 port, and hope it happens.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 12, 2010, 07:04:36 pm
i want a jp 360 but is too expensive for me.... thats sad
I got mine really cheap from some guy who didn't want his. So hope you get lucky.

I knoiw for a fact i'm not allowed to get an XBOX, especially from Japan. So imma cross my fingers for a PS3 port, and hope it happens.
I don't think a ps3 port will happen but because the ps3 graphic capabilities now exceed the xbox 360 there might be a new game in the very distant future.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on July 12, 2010, 07:08:59 pm
I don't think a ps3 port will happen but because the ps3 graphic capabilities now exceed the xbox 360 there might be a new game in the very distant future.
Well, maybe not a port, but something for us sonyers with only SP and DS to our names.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 12, 2010, 07:57:17 pm
Well, maybe not a port, but something for us sonyers with only SP and DS to our names.
we'll have to wait a looong time. I'm pretty sure they're going to milk Idolm@ster 2 for all it's worth.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on July 12, 2010, 09:06:53 pm
It'd be cool if they could incorporate actual idol songs into the game. Something from AKB48 would be pretty cool to see the girls performing. ///shot
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on July 12, 2010, 09:51:27 pm
It'd be cool if they could incorporate actual idol songs into the game. Something from AKB48 would be pretty cool to see the girls performing. ///shot

They're never going to do that either they wouldn't want the record labels taking royalties from the games and the games wouldn't be as original and creative as they would want it to be. Besides that's why you have the albums for so if you want, you can request songs for the albums when the time comes. But seriously, no AKB48 songs, I'll gag.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 12, 2010, 11:52:25 pm
Using real idol songs would turn out something like the Winter/Spring MS CDs. They'll only use songs no one's ever heard of before because it'd be cheaper to license x.x

Though, NBGI is supposed to be collaborating with Project Diva. I don't know if that'll go into iM@S2, or if iM@S will just go into Project Diva (the last SP catalog's contents have already been shown/leaked and it consisted of no Vocaloid content XD).

(and finally, I'm home! *stakes out iM@S2 topic*)

edit: Just went a few pages back and listened to the "new" Yukiho. So cute ;_; Asakura makes an excellent Yukiho indeed.

...man, I can NOT wait for this game to come out. *needs to buy a Japanese 360*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 13, 2010, 03:53:59 am
I got mine really cheap from some guy who didn't want his. So hope you get lucky.
i hope so

I knoiw for a fact i'm not allowed to get an XBOX, especially from Japan. So imma cross my fingers for a PS3 port, and hope it happens.
i don't think this will happen in the near future, we will have to wait for a long time for a game of im@s in ps3 in my opinion of course

...man, I can NOT wait for this game to come out. *needs to buy a Japanese 360*
thats true
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 13, 2010, 09:44:49 am
Quote
I knoiw for a fact i'm not allowed to get an XBOX, especially from Japan. So imma cross my fingers for a PS3 port, and hope it happens.

reading this makes me have a hard-to-fulfill wish :(

I guess I just have to start saving for the jp360 - asian360.

if its hard to get being on US... imagine how much hard it is for me here in Honduras .-. (and in case of finding one... even harder it wont be ridiculously overpriced.)

*Crossing my fingers also*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 13, 2010, 12:20:46 pm
CURSE YOU MAN WHO INVENTED THE WHOLE DVD REGION THINGY.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 13, 2010, 12:21:37 pm
CURSE YOU MAN WHO INVENTED THE WHOLE DVD REGION THINGY.
DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 13, 2010, 03:07:05 pm
Well i heard that there's an speculating rumor that the xbox live subscription that we xbox owners pay goes to the development of xbox 360 games for exclusivity issues.
I've also read that when microsoft receives a xbox 360 exclusive title, the game remains exclusive only for their console in at least a year.
Regarding the prices of xbox 360s, All got a cut when the slim was announced so it's more cheaper. (150$ or something)
Though, NBGI is supposed to be collaborating with Project Diva. I don't know if that'll go into iM@S2, or if iM@S will just go into Project Diva (the last SP catalog's contents have already been shown/leaked and it consisted of no Vocaloid content XD).

NBGI hates Sega and Sega hates NBGI.
CURSE YOU MAN WHO INVENTED THE WHOLE DVD REGION THINGY.
Region Locking means grace for game producers.

japanese games also work on asian xbox 360.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 13, 2010, 03:24:35 pm
reading this makes me have a hard-to-fulfill wish :(

I guess I just have to start saving for the jp360 - asian360.

if its hard to get being on US... imagine how much hard it is for me here in Honduras .-. (and in case of finding one... even harder it wont be ridiculously overpriced.)

*Crossing my fingers also*
we are not that far(El Salvador) and we are in the same problem :(  we need to do something
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 13, 2010, 03:29:31 pm
I've also read that when microsoft receives a xbox 360 exclusive title, the game remains exclusive only for their console in at least a year.

Text conveniently stolen borrowed from a certain rage new site about a certain NBGI RPG franchise.

Quote from: Some NBGI ToV developer
“First off, it was easier developing for the Xbox 360. This is to do with the games I was involved with, but basically if you sign an exclusive contract with Microsoft (you won’t release it on other hardware for a year or similar), they will give you a lot of cash for development.

Their support is also very fast and complete in these cases.

SCE don’t really give much cash out (any at all perhaps). Their support is confused and unreliable. When I was doing it at least, the 360 was easier to develop for, which lowers costs.

As a result, first you develop for the Xbox, reducing development costs. But the Xbox version won’t sell [in Japan], you can’t recoup even those lowered costs at all.

So they ported to the PS3, it’s cheaper as you already have the game done, but then Sony came back and told them ‘We won’t recognise it if it’s the same as the Xbox 360 version. Make sure you put in a lot of extra stuff!’

If we didn’t then they wouldn’t have let us pass their check…”

Doesn't mean there'll be an iM@S2 for PS3 though, but still..


Source: note. site tends to have a lot of NSFW elements. (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/09/16/microsoft-funds-ps3-game-development/)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 13, 2010, 04:14:59 pm
NBGI hates Sega and Sega hates NBGI.
They're doing a collaboration despite their hatred for each other, then. Take a look: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/276/276803/

Back on topic-ish: considering the interview with GamiP, I'm thinking iM@S2 is looking like a very, very slim window of hope. But, if they actually do port it to the PS3...hey, bonus in-game stuff. :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 13, 2010, 04:59:46 pm
Eh, if a PS3 Im@s 2 ever does come out, it's a nice excuse for me to go buy one.
I did buy PSP for SP, so why stop there?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 13, 2010, 06:20:17 pm
Eh, if a PS3 Im@s 2 ever does come out, it's a nice excuse for me to go buy one.
I did buy PSP for SP, so why stop there?
ps3 totally worth it.


Also, was there anything mentioned about an awakened miki in im@s 2?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 13, 2010, 06:43:54 pm
Nothing so far.
Parallel world means Kakusei Miki might not exist in the timeline, so I'm worried about that.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 13, 2010, 06:49:21 pm
Kakusei Miki might not exist

Noooo! I was hoping to see her in a newer design too.

Well there's still hope.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 13, 2010, 07:26:30 pm
She could be presented with another live-or-death situation with the producer. Who knows? XD

It almost makes me wonder if NGBI knows how much we really want with this game...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 13, 2010, 10:46:00 pm
Didn't you guys read the interview I translated?
There isnt going to be a port for the ps3, the producer of the game wanted it to be specifically for the xbox.
If they are thinking for a port on the ps3, then it isnt gonna be for a very long time... and I'm keeping my stakes on the 2nd game being xbox exclusive.

Nothing so far.
Parallel world means Kakusei Miki might not exist in the timeline, so I'm worried about that.

also, it would be a shame if there isnt
but since Miki was the new character in the first game and they sponsored the living crap out of her
maybe there might be a event, story, or something similar on how SSJ Miki kicked off for Takane and Hibiki if you know what I mean
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 13, 2010, 10:48:33 pm
Didn't you guys read the interview I translated?
There isnt going to be a port for the ps3, the producer of the game wanted it to be specifically for the xbox.
If they are thinking for a port on the ps3, then it isnt gonna be for a very long time...

Well that's too bad. I would have liked to see it for the PS3, but unfortunately it isn't.  :(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 13, 2010, 10:49:32 pm
Didn't you guys read the interview I translated?
There isnt going to be a port for the ps3, the producer of the game wanted it to be specifically for the xbox.
If they are thinking for a port on the ps3, then it isnt gonna be for a very long time... and I'm keeping my stakes on the 2nd game being xbox exclusive.
In the end microsoft always wins
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 13, 2010, 11:03:35 pm
I've also read that when microsoft receives a xbox 360 exclusive title, the game remains exclusive only for their console in at least a year.

I think that's standard for any exclusive.

And that's the thing with Tales (in specific). I know that there was a lot of people ready to storm the BNGI building when it came out for the PS3, but in this case, I'm not sure it's entirely them if they were told to make a bunch of additions. No one would really change a game that much if they didn't have to, you don't make nearly as much money. Maybe that's how Sony rolls, I don't know. Maybe certain ports have to have additions from their previously exclusive console version or they won't let them make it. I mean, it does makes your console version unique.

That being said, Namco hasn't had the best ideas in the world at times...

Well, back on topic, there's still time for Miki EX to be made. I mean, Ritsuko, Azusa, and Iori only appeared once in the PV and spoke half a line each. They're still working on things, so it might still happen.

... But thinking about it, anyone have any info, if even from word of mouth, about PV2? Wasn't it shown on the second day of the live?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: KodeShikou on July 13, 2010, 11:04:42 pm
In the end microsoft always wins

Ain't that the truth
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 13, 2010, 11:29:46 pm
And that's the thing with Tales (in specific). I know that there was a lot of people ready to storm the BNGI building when it came out for the PS3, but in this case, I'm not sure it's entirely them if they were told to make a bunch of additions. No one would really change a game that much if they didn't have to, you don't make nearly as much money. Maybe that's how Sony rolls, I don't know. Maybe certain ports have to have additions from their previously exclusive console version or they won't let them make it. I mean, it does makes your console version unique.
I think it might be Sony. I know I bought a game called Eternal Sonata for the PS3 (never played the 360 version), and evidently there's quite a bit of new stuff in it, exclusive to the PS3 version. It's also a NBGI game.
... But thinking about it, anyone have any info, if even from word of mouth, about PV2? Wasn't it shown on the second day of the live?
It was shown at the 2nd day of the Live, though no internet release of it yet. Considering how fast PV1 was up on idolmaster.jp, I'm really wondering where PV2 is at, and how much longer we have to wait to see it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 14, 2010, 12:11:28 am
In the end microsoft always wins


Tell that to the Xbox team in Japan.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 14, 2010, 03:18:55 am
Listening to the newest Idolm@ster Station. As a warning: reading this, you're trusting my listening skills, which can use some work. Nonetheless, here's what I picked up.

The first part is a skit. Yukiho gets scared of a dog, Hibiki, Takane, and Chihaya rush to her rescue. She says she'll dig a hole and bury herself in it... while buried in a hole. Hibiki brings the dog away, and no one tells her that Yukiho's okay, and she waits around with the dog for a long time.

5:25 - Vaaaai!

They talk about the live, and how awesome it was. All of the mail on the show are supportive letters, and them responding to it, talking about the live, and such. They had shabu shabu, apparently, after the live.

This one goes out to... Blue something or odd? (uhm, sorry I can't catch your name in Japanese), from California: your letter made it to the show! According to them, you're probably far from Japan... though, there's no probably about that. You probably know about this, though. Keep checking your mail. ^^

Azumi prefers to be called Azumin, written in hiragana, since that's the way she likes it. Her blog's readership increased by 10 times after the announcement. She apparently liked Chihaya, when looking over the idols for the first time.

Anyone wanting to hear Yukiho's singing voice can tune in next week. (I think that's what I heard.) She'll be showing up as a guest again.

She talks about her audition, she sung Idolm@ster and Kosmos, Cosmos like we've read before. And the mic was on when she was saying how nervous she was singing, which we've also read before.

This month's Gemaga will have stuff about Im@s 2, including some stuff about Azumi's Yukiho. I think this was also posted somewhere else.

24:25 - Vaai!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 14, 2010, 06:05:09 am
we are not that far(El Salvador) and we are in the same problem :(  we need to do something

Something like... uniting Asia with central america using a gigant crane or something like that D:
...
lets keep saving money for the time being... Ill let you know if I find a crane O.o

Didn't you guys read the interview I translated?
There isnt going to be a port for the ps3, the producer of the game wanted it to be specifically for the xbox.
If they are thinking for a port on the ps3, then it isnt gonna be for a very long time...

My dreams destroyed... again...

Quote
In the end microsoft always wins

I dont know if the alwas part its true... but they win me this time. =/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 14, 2010, 06:41:29 am
Something like... uniting Asia with central america using a gigant crane or something like that D:
...
lets keep saving money for the time being... Ill let you know if I find a crane O.o

My dreams destroyed... again...

I dont know if the alwas part its true... but they win me this time. =/
OH!! nice!! I'll be back guys   i will find a crane and .... wait there's something
else. .. .  blah blah saving money
. .. . .
you're right  I'll start save money from now on


In the end microsoft always wins
C'mon guys we are talking about Microsoft, it always will be the winners

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 14, 2010, 09:51:22 am
This one goes out to... Blue something or odd? (uhm, sorry I can't catch your name in Japanese), from California: your letter made it to the show! According to them, you're probably far from Japan... though, there's no probably about that. You probably know about this, though. Keep checking your mail. ^^

Wow, didn't even know we can send them letters o_o;

Azumi prefers to be called Azumin, written in hiragana, since that's the way she likes it. Her blog's readership increased by 10 times after the announcement. She apparently liked Chihaya, when looking over the idols for the first time.

Anyone wanting to hear Yukiho's singing voice can tune in next week. (I think that's what I heard.) She'll be showing up as a guest again.

Yay, hope someone records the broadcast so we can listen to あずみん singing. I guess I'll have to see if I can afford to buy Gemaga this month...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 14, 2010, 01:13:42 pm
Yay, hope someone records the broadcast so we can listen to あずみん singing. I guess I'll have to see if I can afford to buy Gemaga this month...
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/channel/ch765 <-- All of the iM@S Stations are here (I think). I don't follow them since I can't listen to Japanese for beans, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, about that Gemaga issue...google isn't being my friend for this. How much does an issue cost on average? I want this iM@S one XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 14, 2010, 01:51:22 pm
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/channel/ch765 <-- All of the iM@S Stations are here (I think). I don't follow them since I can't listen to Japanese for beans, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, about that Gemaga issue...google isn't being my friend for this. How much does an issue cost on average? I want this iM@S one XD

Thanks~ :3
I'll look at it when I'm not on capped internet -_-;

What do you mean by how much? The yen price? Or how much it is in your currency?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 14, 2010, 01:53:04 pm
Thanks~ :3
I'll look at it when I'm not on capped internet -_-;

What do you mean by how much? The yen price? Or how much it is in your currency?
No problem~
And how much in yen is a-okay. Just need an estimate so I can be able to buy it when it is actually on sale XDD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 14, 2010, 03:05:38 pm
Be ready to dedicate around $10 for an issue.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 14, 2010, 03:26:11 pm
Retail price: 980JPY or approx 11 USD
Add them import expenses, shipping and other bureaucratic nonsense and you'll end up a lot higher.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 14, 2010, 03:47:09 pm
Well, $10 or $11 isn't bad, considering. I hope "a lot higher" isn't TOO much higher (Still within the range of $15-$20?)

Considering I paid $25 for the Precious Album and $30 for the Master Book, I'd hope this magazine is kinda big (though, iM@S2 stuff and Project Diva x iM@S collab info? Do want).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 14, 2010, 03:49:57 pm
You won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 14, 2010, 05:41:44 pm
Well, $10 or $11 isn't bad, considering. I hope "a lot higher" isn't TOO much higher (Still within the range of $15-$20?)

Considering I paid $25 for the Precious Album and $30 for the Master Book, I'd hope this magazine is kinda big (though, iM@S2 stuff and Project Diva x iM@S collab info? Do want).
Meh, actually I was exaggerating, the hardest and at the same time the most expensive part is finding someone or a (japanese) bookshop that'll get one for you.
Anyways a Gemaga's around 200 pages and has a lot of colorful pages with a lot of official art covering big parts of the pages and a good amount of screenshots, bad thing is that they don't really cover a lot about a specific game.
Cover stories and hyped games get 4 pages tops, with all the images there isn't a lot of info, also there's some running light novel and some random manga some might not care about.
Also, ads, a good amount of them.
I only get a Gemaga from time to time for the extras.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 14, 2010, 07:53:00 pm
You won't be disappointed.
Sold XD
Meh, actually I was exaggerating, the hardest and at the same time the most expensive part is finding someone or a (japanese) bookshop that'll get one for you.
Anyways a Gemaga's around 200 pages and has a lot of colorful pages with a lot of official art covering big parts of the pages and a good amount of screenshots, bad thing is that they don't really cover a lot about a specific game.
Cover stories and hyped games get 4 pages tops, with all the images there isn't a lot of info, also there's some running light novel and some random manga some might not care about.
Also, ads, a good amount of them.
I only get a Gemaga from time to time for the extras.
Well, it's all good because I can't read a whole lot of Japanese and understand it XD So, the more pictures the better. And I like stuff with Japanese on it, plain and simple. Even the colorful and distracting ads XD

[end semi-off-topic posts XD]
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 15, 2010, 05:21:23 am
On topic, who's already picked their trio for idolm@ster 2?
So many choices!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 15, 2010, 05:24:08 am
On topic, who's already picked their trio for idolm@ster 2?
So many choices!
Anything with Yukiho,Takane,Makoto or Ritsuko all the way.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 15, 2010, 05:39:30 am
On topic, who's already picked their trio for idolm@ster 2?
So many choices!

front line: Haruka - Takane - Yukiho
Artilliery: Miki - Ami - Mami (I read some threads back they can be choose separately now, if not Chihaya goes here.)
Supporters: Hibiki - Azusa - Yayoi
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 15, 2010, 05:41:52 am
front line: Haruka - Takane - Yukiho

Sound wise it'll be great. I wonder how those three would get along.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 15, 2010, 05:47:00 am
i'll go with  iori, Yukiho, Takane
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on July 15, 2010, 05:57:20 am
I'd like to hear :

Mami, Miki, Hibiki and Takane, Yukiho, Iori.

It'd be cool if they had Asami Shimoda record in two slightly different voices this time if Ami and Mami can possibly appear together on stage.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 15, 2010, 05:58:46 am
Sound wise it'll be great. I wonder how those three would get along.

A lot of all.

"Half Cheerful, Half Cute, Half Cool...  All Awesome"

IMO =)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 15, 2010, 06:32:37 am
On topic, who's already picked their trio for idolm@ster 2?
So many choices!
A -crazy- amount of choices XD My first produce, I want to do Haruka, Mami, and Takane.

I also want to do a 961Pro run, as well as (when I can use more than 3 idols), a group that includes Ami, Mami, Yayoi, Iori, and...probably Miki XD

I want extremely much to do an Ami/Mami, Haruka, and Ritsuko trio (my 3 favorite characters XD) but I want a "new" character to be in my first playthrough.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 15, 2010, 06:48:58 am
On topic, who's already picked their trio for idolm@ster 2?
So many choices!
I'll go with...
Mami, Haruka, and Yayoi for my first trio.
Then Ami, Mami, Haruka, Yayoi, and Yukiho for the team with 5.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 15, 2010, 07:00:54 am
Mine will be my top 3 favorite: Chihaya, Miki, and Hibiki.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 15, 2010, 07:37:23 am
I'd like to Try out a Haruka Yukiho and Chihaya combo I think i'd do best with them when it came to communications. Now if I super size it I'd add Hibiki and one of the Futami twins
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on July 15, 2010, 07:48:59 am
Mine would be my current top 3: Yayoi, Ritsuko, Haruka.

It'd be cool if they had Asami Shimoda record in two slightly different voices this time if Ami and Mami can possibly appear together on stage.
Agreed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 15, 2010, 08:19:03 am
It'd be cool if they had Asami Shimoda record in two slightly different voices this time if Ami and Mami can possibly appear together on stage.
I think they would (though that'd mean twice the work for Shimoda Asami). Considering the twins have different appearances and are separate stage-idols, even having different on-stage costumes (by the looks of the silhouettes on the freebie wallpaper, since Ami wasn't on stage in the first PV), I think it'd be kinda...wrong for them to have the exact same voice.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 15, 2010, 08:23:40 am
Going for broke, Invincible Armada all the way.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 15, 2010, 10:47:31 am
I think they would (though that'd mean twice the work for Shimoda Asami). Considering the twins have different appearances and are separate stage-idols, even having different on-stage costumes (by the looks of the silhouettes on the freebie wallpaper, since Ami wasn't on stage in the first PV), I think it'd be kinda...wrong for them to have the exact same voice.

Would be interesting how things would work out for Idolm@ster lives, though. With the same voice actress, you couldn't have both out at the same time, even if you could produce them separately.

For now, the Ryukishidan is: Azusa, Yukiho, and Makoto. Plus, Haruka and Chihaya.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 15, 2010, 11:37:12 am
I think they would (though that'd mean twice the work for Shimoda Asami). Considering the twins have different appearances and are separate stage-idols, even having different on-stage costumes (by the looks of the silhouettes on the freebie wallpaper, since Ami wasn't on stage in the first PV), I think it'd be kinda...wrong for them to have the exact same voice.
Yeah, like in the album musics which we can hear both Ami and Mami singing together with tiny time gap. Let's just hope at least they would use the same technique, whether she sang twice or they modified it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 15, 2010, 02:56:37 pm
On topic, who's already picked their trio for idolm@ster 2?
So many choices!

Mine would have to be Yukiho, Takane, and Miki.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 15, 2010, 03:35:40 pm
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/idols_intro01.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/idols_intro02.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/idols_intro03.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 15, 2010, 03:53:22 pm
Awww, look at Ami's socks. So cute.

I find it kind of unfair, though, that only the idols that were on stage in the first PV are in their stage costumes. Why are they holding out on us?? XDD

But, in Ami's screenshot, it looks like she's wearing the same costume as Mami did in the PV. On the silhouette-wallpaper, though, it's very clear their costumes are different ???

by the way, here's a higher-quality snippet of Iori, if someone wants to use it as an icon or whathaveyou: (http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx350/TweenDoriru/2nssytw.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 15, 2010, 04:02:59 pm
azusa looks delicious  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 15, 2010, 04:51:37 pm
But, in Ami's screenshot, it looks like she's wearing the same costume as Mami did in the PV. On the silhouette-wallpaper, though, it's very clear their costumes are different ???
Well, those costume on the silhouette are the different type (which probably the new version of Cute & Girly?), and this is not the final version. But yeah, it seems they have the same costume (which probably new Cool & Sexy?) in this beta version.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 15, 2010, 05:15:57 pm
Gah, I'm absolutely loving (almost) everyone's new look! *_*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 15, 2010, 05:59:32 pm
i just saw that imas 2 article at asahi honya yesterday in the famitsu magazine
too bad they wouldnt let me take pix
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 15, 2010, 06:10:07 pm
http://ameblo.jp/project-imas/entry-10591568305.html

PV2'll be shown on 7/18 on MAG*Net according to above link, finally a video of 5 idols on stage.
Now to wait until some anon records it and uploads it on nicovideo.

Also, crappy old video is awesome
http://imasnews.blog8.fc2.com/blog-entry-629.html
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 15, 2010, 06:52:19 pm
The wait for PV2 is so unnecessary...so many people have seen it already and yet there's tons that haven't...why is NBGI such a tease =3=....
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 15, 2010, 06:58:25 pm
The wait for PV2 is so unnecessary...so many people have seen it already and yet there's tons that haven't...why is NBGI such a tease =3=....

Agreed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: KodeShikou on July 15, 2010, 07:41:31 pm
I'd have to say Chihaya as a front runner, with Miki and Hibiki as backup
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 15, 2010, 08:39:24 pm
I'd have to say Chihaya
Speaking of chihaya I'm almost sad her bust size hasn't changed even the slightest.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: KodeShikou on July 15, 2010, 10:11:04 pm
Speaking of chihaya I'm almost sad her bust size hasn't changed even the slightest.


Well at least with her 72s she has a little bounce in her step now, if you know what I mean 8)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 16, 2010, 01:30:51 am
azusa looks delicious  ;D

agreed x 2
Awww, look at Ami's socks. So cute.

I find it kind of unfair, though, that only the idols that were on stage in the first PV are in their stage costumes. Why are they holding out on us?? XDD

But, in Ami's screenshot, it looks like she's wearing the same costume as Mami did in the PV. On the silhouette-wallpaper, though, it's very clear their costumes are different ???

by the way, here's a higher-quality snippet of Iori, if someone wants to use it as an icon or whathaveyou: (http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx350/TweenDoriru/2nssytw.jpg)

thanks! got something in mind for this one =P


Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 16, 2010, 02:14:45 am
Well at least with her 72s she has a little bounce in her step now, if you know what I mean 8)
Another victory for physics!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 16, 2010, 03:30:42 am
azusa looks delicious  ;D
agreed x 2
agreed x 3


Iori looks Cute with the new hairstyle... i like it Very much i have to say

Well at least with her 72s she has a little bounce in her step now, if you know what I mean 8)

LOL
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 16, 2010, 01:01:23 pm
The wait for PV2 is so unnecessary...so many people have seen it already and yet there's tons that haven't...why is NBGI such a tease =3=....
It's going to be shown outside the live hall for the first time on NHK BS2, on MAG NET.
I don't have BS2 lol, sucks to have analogue TV.

Also, got my ゲーマガ yesterday, and it seems to be selling really good... 10 copies last night, none left this morning.

Some interesting stuff I picked up from the two interviews:
- Solid parallel world, so the 961 pair were in 765 from the start.
- An "if" world, where the situation is, "if the idols hadn't met the producer like in 1."
- Being 1 year older and half a year since debuting means everyone will have a slight change in personality.
- Chihaya will *possibly* have a more rigid personality at the start, since she hadn't met the producer.
- Hibiki's 3-size in 2 is the real size?
- Some songs from 1 will be brought over.
- Unlike 1, which had Arcade as the base, 2 is being developed from the ground up.

What I found intriguing is that there was an idea to make Im@s 2 a "true sequel", in a way that the girls start as top idols and the goal lies in producing them to be worldwide top idols, although the idea was scrapped because no ending in 1 is considered to be true canon.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 16, 2010, 05:10:36 pm
- Being 1 year older and half a year since debuting means everyone will have a slight change in personality.
Now I guess I could finally have some "unstated obvious reasons" with Ami/Mami. XD
- Some songs from 1 will be brought over.
Old songs with 5 idols?, great!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 16, 2010, 06:31:30 pm
Also, got my ゲーマガ yesterday, and it seems to be selling really good... 10 copies last night, none left this morning.
It must be selling really well; I kept my eye on it on Amazon and when it was finally up it was 4,000 yen ;_; (Though it was also entirely from private sellers)
- Some songs from 1 will be brought over.
That'll be awesome to produce with 5 idols :D Though I wonder if the extra 2 will seem kinda...tacked-on to the dance, or if they can pull off really making it work XD
Also, I hope "Go My Way!" comes over to the new game. My favorite song is "Here We Go!", but it doesn't seem to be as popular XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 16, 2010, 07:20:54 pm
Also, I hope "Go My Way!" comes over to the new game. My favorite song is "Here We Go!", but it doesn't seem to be as popular XD
I hope they put a majority of the songs in the new game.
I like "Here We go!" too!  :)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on July 16, 2010, 08:02:41 pm
I've been thinking about it, and I've got two trios picked for me to produce when I finally get to play. The first will be of Iori, Makoto, and Yukiho. The second will be with Chihaya and the Futamis. I haven't played any Im@s yet, but I was still able to test these pairs out to an extent. It was thanks to this site actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrS_edtvtX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T4pDwH_oLA
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 16, 2010, 08:06:57 pm
The first will be of Iori, Makoto, and Yukiho.

Are you a Im@s: Xeonglossia fan and a Toradora fan?  :o
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on July 16, 2010, 08:09:40 pm
I haven't seen toradora but I have seen xenoglossia. So I guess I'm a xenoglossia fan by default. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 16, 2010, 08:11:36 pm
I was also considering that trio because the voice actors:

Iori- Taiga
Makoto (from Xeonglossia)- Ami
Yukiho (from Xeonglossia)- Minori

But in game it's different voice actors anyway. Wishful thinking I suppose.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on July 16, 2010, 08:18:19 pm
I see.  Well I have a number of reasons for choosing that particular trio. Yukiho reminds me a lot of myself so I can garner a bit of empathy with her. Makoto is because I'm a bit intimidated by women. A tomboy character is easier for me to approach. Iori is there because she reminds me a lot of my mother. I may be over-thinking this but those are some of the reasons I have come up with.

Also, Chihaya and The Futamis are together because they are the ones responsible for bringing me into Idolm@ster in the first place.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 16, 2010, 08:21:16 pm
Poor Chihaya, Ami and Mami have grown and you haven't!  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 16, 2010, 08:24:44 pm
I was also considering that trio because the voice actors:

Iori- Taiga
Makoto (from Xeonglossia)- Ami
Yukiho (from Xeonglossia)- Minori

But in game it's different voice actors anyway. Wishful thinking I suppose.

I keep forgetting Yui Horie was the seiyuu for Yukiho in Xenoglossia <_<

anyways on topic... sort of: since everyone was talking about which groups they were going to Produce first, I might as well go for it as well.  I'll probably go with my favorite trio first; the infamous Azusa, Chihaya, and Makoto trio, then add in Miki and Takane later on.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 17, 2010, 04:58:34 am
- Solid parallel world, so the 961 pair were in 765 from the start.
- An "if" world, where the situation is, "if the idols hadn't met the producer like in 1."
- Being 1 year older and half a year since debuting means everyone will have a slight change in personality.

aah, explains a lot~
I wonder if Yayoi is still poor after being an idol for that long.

My three idols will be a hard pick, as much as i love Yayoi, the other idols are becoming more appealing as time goes by...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: satty on July 17, 2010, 05:48:58 am
Some interesting stuff I picked up from the two interviews:
- Solid parallel world, so the 961 pair were in 765 from the start.
- An "if" world, where the situation is, "if the idols hadn't met the producer like in 1."
- Being 1 year older and half a year since debuting means everyone will have a slight change in personality.

What I found intriguing is that there was an idea to make Im@s 2 a "true sequel", in a way that the girls start as top idols and the goal lies in producing them to be worldwide top idols, although the idea was scrapped because no ending in 1 is considered to be true canon.

Huh, what a interesting idea they had....but still, switching to a parallel world is an interesting way to restart everything...

Lulz and fake plot point incoming: This producer is the original producer, warped into this parallel world by some freak space-time accident. The producer also has a major case of amnesia, only remembering how to produce. By chance, the producer manages to get into the new 765...

As for who to choose to make a starting trio? I would go with Haruka, Chihaya, and Miki. Later, I would take Ritsuko and Azusa for the 5-idol unit.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 17, 2010, 05:52:52 am
Lulz and fake plot point incoming: This producer is the original producer, warped into this parallel world by some freak space-time accident. The producer also has a major case of amnesia, only remembering how to produce. By chance, the producer manages to get into the new 765...
Well, without the amnesia, that's pretty much what happened! :D W e'll consider the space of time between Arcade iM@S and iM@S2 a freak space-time accident. :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on July 17, 2010, 06:39:45 am
The collaboration between Project Diva 2 and Imas sp really happened O.o
I didn't expect that.
There's a post in moetron.
http://www.moetron.com/2010/07/16/hatsune-miku-project-diva-2nd-idolmaster-sp-costumes-songs-dlc/#more-9678 (http://www.moetron.com/2010/07/16/hatsune-miku-project-diva-2nd-idolmaster-sp-costumes-songs-dlc/#more-9678)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 17, 2010, 04:27:03 pm
The collaboration between Project Diva 2 and Imas sp really happened O.o
Yeah, it was officially announced XD Like I said, even if "Sega hates NBGI and NBGI hates Sega", they're collaborating.

However, it's all SP stuff; none of it is iM@S2 stuff.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 18, 2010, 02:41:35 am
It kinda makes you wonder if they might do more in the future. Just leave idolm@ster 2 alone!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 18, 2010, 03:23:53 am
The collaboration between Project Diva 2 and Imas sp really happened O.o
I didn't expect that.
There's a post in moetron.
http://www.moetron.com/2010/07/16/hatsune-miku-project-diva-2nd-idolmaster-sp-costumes-songs-dlc/#more-9678 (http://www.moetron.com/2010/07/16/hatsune-miku-project-diva-2nd-idolmaster-sp-costumes-songs-dlc/#more-9678)
Voc@mas? Lol, sure why not? :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 18, 2010, 05:18:10 am
Speculation for songs that won't make it into 2:

THE IDOLM@STER - I know this is the song that defines Im@s, but got this gut feeling it's intended to be a theme song for Im@s 1, and only Im@s 1. They also performed this song twice at the 5th Live, as though to say goodbye to it.

Massugu - Again, strong ties to Im@s 1 as the ending theme.

Personal songs - Since it's a parallel world, the personal songs maybe different.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on July 18, 2010, 05:34:45 am
I just hope Futari no Kioku stays. I really like that one. XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 18, 2010, 07:19:24 am
I just hope Futari no Kioku stays. I really like that one. XD
Ohh, on that note, I wonder if the idols' MA songs will be in the game. Somehow, it seems like a stretch, because they can't include them solely for one idol like they did in SP XD It probably depends on how many new songs there are in the game.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 18, 2010, 08:54:37 am
Hopefully livE makes it to iDOLM@STER 2 because I just love it listening to that song.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 18, 2010, 03:05:03 pm
Speculation for songs that won't make it into 2:

THE IDOLM@STER - I know this is the song that defines Im@s, but got this gut feeling it's intended to be a theme song for Im@s 1, and only Im@s 1. They also performed this song twice at the 5th Live, as though to say goodbye to it.

Massugu - Again, strong ties to Im@s 1 as the ending theme.

Personal songs - Since it's a parallel world, the personal songs maybe different.
Good bye, my beloved Kiramekirari...qT_Tp...
Rest in peace, "THE IDOLM@STER" song...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on July 18, 2010, 04:54:06 pm
Speculation for songs that won't make it into 2:

THE IDOLM@STER - I know this is the song that defines Im@s, but got this gut feeling it's intended to be a theme song for Im@s 1, and only Im@s 1. They also performed this song twice at the 5th Live, as though to say goodbye to it.
I think (and I hope) there's a chance this song is making to 2. They played the version of 'THE IDOLM@STER' sung by the new Yukiho on the last iM@S Station...
http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html (http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 18, 2010, 05:20:28 pm
I think (and I hope) there's a chance this song is making to 2. They played the version of 'THE IDOLM@STER' sung by the new Yukiho on the last iM@S Station...
http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html (http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html)
That's nice! I really wish to see this song with 5 idols.
But this one really shows how different the new Yukiho is, compared to the previous Yukiho...
I think she sings nicely, but any other comments?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 18, 2010, 05:32:44 pm
I think (and I hope) there's a chance this song is making to 2. They played the version of 'THE IDOLM@STER' sung by the new Yukiho on the last iM@S Station...
http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html (http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html)
Ill have to admit Yukiho's new voice actress is pretty good.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 18, 2010, 05:43:36 pm
Information from MAG-NET, which just finished airing on NHK BS2.

- They showed part of the second trailer! Which means it has a chance of being available online anytime now.
- Im@s 2 will have twice as much facial expressions! They showed part of it, and they have Haruka looking a little mad, then Haruka looking pissed off.
- Movements are motion captured. Was 1 like this too? Don't know.
- New algorithms to calculate character height and hand position. This finally allowed the idols to hold hands when dancing, as seen in the first trailer. All done by the determination of one woman, who wanted to let the idols hold hands.

[edit]
Wow, someone cutout the trailer part already lol: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11435306
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on July 18, 2010, 06:41:19 pm
i was watching via ustream, and it decided to cut out right as the trailer aired. i was impressed by the 誕生日会 as well as the women in charge of holding hands. I never took into consideration how much work it would be to coordinate the different idols now that there are 5 of them, especially something as small as hand positions. very impressed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 18, 2010, 06:47:38 pm
I was watching it on Ustream too, since I can't watch BS2 on my TV.

I really never got to look at the actual people inside BanNam that are developing the game, so that short section was definitely worth it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 18, 2010, 07:01:24 pm
- Movements are motion captured. Was 1 like this too? Don't know.
Yes they do. There's the details, including pictures, shows in the "THE IDOLM@STER MASTER BOOK". Unfortunely, my scanner doesn't work at the moment, but I'll scan and upload the pictures later.
So all the dance in iM@S are danced by the real professional human. Actually, I really wish to see them dance in the live show, cause they would dance as good as in the game.

- New algorithms to calculate character height and hand position. This finally allowed the idols to hold hands when dancing, as seen in the first trailer. All done by the determination of one woman, who wanted to let the idols hold hands.
This technology has become the pride of iM@S, and I personally believe how the iM@S dance in group make them invincible in the world of digital concert. Truely love it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 18, 2010, 07:30:23 pm
Information from MAG-NET, which just finished airing on NHK BS2.

- They showed part of the second trailer! Which means it has a chance of being available online anytime now.
- Im@s 2 will have twice as much facial expressions! They showed part of it, and they have Haruka looking a little mad, then Haruka looking pissed off.
- Movements are motion captured. Was 1 like this too? Don't know.
- New algorithms to calculate character height and hand position. This finally allowed the idols to hold hands when dancing, as seen in the first trailer. All done by the determination of one woman, who wanted to let the idols hold hands.


Hooray! Now I seriously can not wait for this game.  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 18, 2010, 07:40:06 pm
Wow, why did I laugh at Chihaya and Miki when they jumped in to be part of the 'Unity is Strength' line.

- New algorithms to calculate character height and hand position. This finally allowed the idols to hold hands when dancing, as seen in the first trailer. All done by the determination of one woman, who wanted to let the idols hold hands.

that woman is amazing, I know algorithms take forever to create and code .____.; that and I really want her desk.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 18, 2010, 08:00:51 pm
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11435306

Five idol PV
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 18, 2010, 08:19:15 pm
- New algorithms to calculate character height and hand position. This finally allowed the idols to hold hands when dancing, as seen in the first trailer. All done by the determination of one woman, who wanted to let the idols hold hands.
I'm glad they got that worked out. I was wondering for a little while in the 1st PV if it would work out, considering things like (though shown) how much taller the Futami Twins are than Hibiki XD

The 5-idol stage looks pretty good! I hope it'll weed its way to youtube, though, since Niconico videos always seem to run a bit glitchy for me ;_; I also watched a Touhou episode and a Hatsune Miku episode of MAG-NET; I hope the full iM@S episode will make it to the internet, too :D

Also, was that link just part of PV2? I'm so glad to see it, and yet I feel like we should've seen more...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 18, 2010, 08:49:24 pm
Yeah. there's definitely more to it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 18, 2010, 09:53:18 pm
I think (and I hope) there's a chance this song is making to 2. They played the version of 'THE IDOLM@STER' sung by the new Yukiho on the last iM@S Station...
http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html (http://massmirror.com/cea64f0a98468b623a987d77249687f9.html)

Jaw dropped... I'm pretty much happy that Azumin got the role, I guess I can rest easy  8)

- New algorithms to calculate character height and hand position. This finally allowed the idols to hold hands when dancing, as seen in the first trailer. All done by the determination of one woman, who wanted to let the idols hold hands.

D:
As an animation graduate, I'm actually pretty damn eager to see exactly how they overcame this difficult task. I wonder how effective this method is for more intense interactions between the idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 18, 2010, 09:56:16 pm
As an animation graduate, I'm actually pretty damn eager to see exactly how they overcame this difficult task. I wonder how effective this method is for more intense interactions between the idols.
like fist fights and hugs or are you thinking something else XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 18, 2010, 10:07:42 pm
Well, that does raise a question...

I wonder what other interactions they'll have in songs besides holding hands and high-touch? XD

Imagine a song where they hug. Cuteness overload ;_;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 18, 2010, 10:16:34 pm

I wonder what other interactions they'll have in songs besides holding hands and high-touch? XD

I always wanted them to form a pyramid.  :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 18, 2010, 10:19:29 pm
I can't believe you guys are frothing at the mouths over this sort of tech. Something that should have been done years ago. Sure, it's new algorithm. But that's all it is. New. New to the series, but not new at all to animation and design.

I'm glad it's finally here, but only as glad as if I were waiting for my plane to finally take off after many delays.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on July 18, 2010, 10:45:30 pm
The 5-idol stage looks pretty good! I hope it'll weed its way to youtube, though, since Niconico videos always seem to run a bit glitchy for me ;_; I also watched a Touhou episode and a Hatsune Miku episode of MAG-NET; I hope the full iM@S episode will make it to the internet, too :D

found it.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gWDsw-H3mY
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 19, 2010, 01:21:39 am
5-idol seems to be great but I still wonder how it would effect some songs like Overmaster...  Still cute over all.

Ritsuko looks kind of nice in short shorts and the hair style starting to grow on me....  Did anybody Ritsuko has some "tattoo" on her stomach?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 19, 2010, 01:48:07 am
Body art most likely, like what other costumes give certain idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 19, 2010, 01:50:08 am
Ritsuko looks kind of nice in short shorts and the hair style starting to grow on me....  Did anybody Ritsuko has some "tattoo" on her stomach?
Body art most likely, like what other costumes give certain idols.
Considering she had a "tattoo" body-art thing on her arm in her Cosmic & Funny costume (iM@S1 style), I wouldn't doubt it. XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 19, 2010, 01:54:15 am
No. You wouldn't doubt something I said.

It only makes sense.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 19, 2010, 02:48:35 am
I always wanted them to form a pyramid.  :D

Hahaha, that would be funny XD;  I would like to see this as well.

and fist fights during a live?!? they should put that as a mini game, fist fights all around! but would that mean makoto or maybe ritsuko would win automatically? ]:
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 19, 2010, 05:43:44 am
and fist fights during a live?!? they should put that as a mini game, fist fights all around! but would that mean makoto or maybe ritsuko would win automatically? ]:

LOL watch girls fighting is not my style,  but that would be funny too =D



Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 19, 2010, 05:57:47 am
and fist fights during a live?!? they should put that as a mini game, fist fights all around! but would that mean makoto or maybe ritsuko would win automatically? ]:
Ritsuko would win by scolding Makoto till she gave in.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 19, 2010, 06:45:47 am
- Movements are motion captured. Was 1 like this too?
Better ask them:

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5714/motioncap2.jpg) (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/motioncap2.jpg/)
(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4903/motioncap.jpg) (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/motioncap.jpg/)

From: The iDOLM@STER MASTER BOOK
Any ideas which dance did they perform?  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: satty on July 19, 2010, 07:16:38 am
Better ask them:

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5714/motioncap2.jpg) (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/motioncap2.jpg/)
(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4903/motioncap.jpg) (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/motioncap.jpg/)

From: The iDOLM@STER MASTER BOOK
Any ideas which dance did they perform?  ;D

No clue, but at least I learned something...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 19, 2010, 08:17:52 am
From: The iDOLM@STER MASTER BOOK
Any ideas which dance did they perform?  ;D
Wow, let's see...My Best Friend, Go My Way!!...Mahou wo Kakete!, Relations, Agent Yoru wo Yuku, and The iDOLM@STER. I think the only one I don't recognize is the 3rd screenshot from the left on that second scan.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on July 19, 2010, 08:40:41 am
motion capture dances, looks like ive learned something new to day in the im@s series.
yes, i actually didnt know they used motion capture
or more like i actually didnt care what they used and payed too much attention to the dancing :K
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 19, 2010, 12:55:53 pm
As an animation graduate, I'm actually pretty damn eager to see exactly how they overcame this difficult task. I wonder how effective this method is for more intense interactions between the idols.

Generally speaking, you can guesstimate where each wants their hand to be for a relaxed high touch, then just take the generic animation you have for that high touch at that point in the dance, move the hand to where you want it to be, and figure out where all the other joints in your body should be to make that look natural. Work backward - start with your hand, move to your wrist, then the elbow, shoulder, then the hip.

Hugs, however, are a different matter. Holding hands can be like the above, but you have to take into account someone else's body shape for a hug and then the other girl has to conform to the hug, which opens up another can of worms to deal with...

... if they can do that with Takane and Yayoi and make it look as natural as Haruka and Makoto, I'll be impressed. Like, so much my heart would explode. Sadly, it's such a natural action, I think most people wouldn't see exactly how difficult it is to do try to recreate it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 19, 2010, 01:48:44 pm
Generally speaking, you can guesstimate where each wants their hand to be for a relaxed high touch, then just take the generic animation you have for that high touch at that point in the dance, move the hand to where you want it to be, and figure out where all the other joints in your body should be to make that look natural. Work backward - start with your hand, move to your wrist, then the elbow, shoulder, then the hip.

Hugs, however, are a different matter. Holding hands can be like the above, but you have to take into account someone else's body shape for a hug and then the other girl has to conform to the hug, which opens up another can of worms to deal with...

Sorry... I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to explain ^^;
Are you saying iM@S have done the animations by some sort of dynamic pseudo-IK system in their engine?

Agreed with the hug, especially since the girls are quite varied in body shape XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 19, 2010, 06:09:07 pm
Also, was that link just part of PV2? I'm so glad to see it, and yet I feel like we should've seen more...
Here's the complete special, only the last part focuses on iM@S 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmIGUoQqRms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSlaKVa2NEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaP6mnFdoNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnvIfvUh3WE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSHgyy--IFs
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 19, 2010, 07:48:31 pm
Here's the complete special, only the last part focuses on iM@S 2.
Thanks so much for the links :D

I wonder how much they really do with the voices in the studio...the part with Nakamura Eriko recording Haruka's "The World is All One!!" didn't sound much like Haruka XD and she seemed to hold the notes shorter than they are in the actual song.
edit: I loved the part where they went over the motion capture and making the hands not float over each other XD All this behind-the-scenes stuff was awesome.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 19, 2010, 08:27:05 pm
Here's the complete special, only the last part focuses on iM@S 2.
For the first time, I have a chance to see behind the scenes of iM@S (,and also how the fans celebrate the idol's birthdays XD).
Thanks a lot! ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 19, 2010, 08:50:46 pm
YESS thank you. i just wish i could understand it
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 19, 2010, 09:12:39 pm
Sorry... I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to explain ^^;
Are you saying iM@S have done the animations by some sort of dynamic pseudo-IK system in their engine?

Yeah, that's kinda what I want to say. It's just a guess, but that's the first thing that pops to mind when I think of high touching or holding hands between two characters of differing height, when you don't know it in advance. Start with a general animation, then modify. That way, you only have to capture once and not a billion times with many actors of different sizes.

For simple stuff like that (where the animation wouldn't really have to be modified past the shoulder much), I think this would be pretty inexpensive.

Of course, one thing that would be really interesting to look for: when walking up to hold hands with another, do the idols take shorter or longer steps?

Also, I should probably watch the special. ^^
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 19, 2010, 09:25:23 pm
Here's the complete special, only the last part focuses on iM@S 2.

Thanks! I want any of those jobs! I love seeing behind the scenes.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: KodeShikou on July 19, 2010, 10:32:47 pm
YESS thank you. i just wish i could understand it

Agreed. Although my lack of understanding of moonspeak still cannot stop me from enjoying and watching all that. Now time to sleep before work. Catch yall tomorrow
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 19, 2010, 11:53:58 pm
Here's the complete special, only the last part focuses on iM@S 2

Thanks for that, it was a great watch. 8D;;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 20, 2010, 12:10:54 am
Something I can't help but notice...now, with the MAG-NET special...

Ami-chan is the only one who we haven't seen on stage (if Azusa's appearance in the "hey, this is how we make the hands match up" segment counts).
edit: or, I should say, Ami's stage costume is the only one we have yet to see XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 20, 2010, 12:56:23 am
Something I can't help but notice...now, with the MAG-NET special...

Ami-chan is the only one who we haven't seen on stage (if Azusa's appearance in the "hey, this is how we make the hands match up" segment counts).
edit: or, I should say, Ami's stage costume is the only one we have yet to see XD
I was also thinking about that.
I hope her costume is much different than Mami's.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 20, 2010, 01:13:31 am
Here's the complete special, only the last part focuses on iM@S 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmIGUoQqRms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSlaKVa2NEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaP6mnFdoNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnvIfvUh3WE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSHgyy--IFs

Part 1: They should've just played Danketsu for the last half. ^^
Part 2: Anyone recognize the headphones Eriko is wearing? I wanna say they're a pair of Sony MDR-V900's, but I can't tell.
Part 3: So is there, like, some sort of bandoleer or something that you can get for those glow sticks? I imagine most people would either bring one or 10.
Part 4: Wish I could be there...
Part 5: None of the little details are revealed, huh...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 20, 2010, 07:13:20 pm
Found a torrent for the MAG・ネット videos.
It has a few others like Bakemonogatari in it, but I was really only intereested in the iDOLM@STER video. Not 100% if it's the right video but I'll soon find out once it's done downloading.


...Anyone interested? (not sure if I can post torrent links here)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: BT2 on July 20, 2010, 07:19:14 pm
You mean the one on tokyotosho?
Perhaps I should've mentioned that I got it from there.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on July 20, 2010, 07:21:44 pm
The more I see these stuff, the more I get excited for im@s2. Time to save up for a JP 360!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 20, 2010, 07:28:50 pm
You mean the one on tokyotosho?
Perhaps I should've mentioned that I got it from there.

Yup, that's the one :3
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 20, 2010, 07:45:29 pm
Something I can't help but notice...now, with the MAG-NET special...

Ami-chan is the only one who we haven't seen on stage (if Azusa's appearance in the "hey, this is how we make the hands match up" segment counts).
edit: or, I should say, Ami's stage costume is the only one we have yet to see XD
You actually get a tiny glimpse of it on ゲーマガ, and it looks identical to Mami's one.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 20, 2010, 08:09:21 pm
You actually get a tiny glimpse of it on ゲーマガ, and it looks identical to Mami's one.
Well, the only reason I insist on waiting for a full version of it is the illustration silhouettes; though being a different type of costume (most likely Cute & Girly), Ami's and Mami's costumes are different.
I don't think they'd make them different on one type of costume and identical in another, so that's why I'm holding out XD

In the picture they are identical, so either they're different on the bottom half or so of the costume, or they put Ami in Mami's outfit to make us wait more...or Ami's and Mami's outfits are interchangeable, though I doubt it XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Makoto on July 21, 2010, 03:08:17 am
The more I see these stuff, the more I get excited for im@s2. Time to save up for a JP 360!

Hahaha. Same situation with me, the more I see about Im@s 2 the more I cannot wait for it. I am also currently saving up for a JP360!

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 21, 2010, 03:12:18 am
Hahaha. Same situation with me, the more I see about Im@s 2 the more I cannot wait for it. I am also currently saving up for a JP360!


Saving up for a Japanese Xbox 360 slim a epic game deserves a epic console.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 21, 2010, 07:53:59 am
I suggest not to forget saving up for the DLC, since downloading most of them together worth about the same price as buying new Japanese Xbox 360.
Alright, it's still a long way to go...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 21, 2010, 09:24:40 am
I remember doing the math for iDOLM@STER and Live for you...

iDOLM@STER = 24,450 points
Live for You = 61,300
Total together = 85,750

That 35 point cards of 3500 Points.  Which is $1512.50 being importing points, its $1230.25 if you didn't have to.

You will have to pour in money for iDOLM@STER DLC.  I know I will again for iDOLM@STER 2.
I do wonder if they are wearing Cute & Girly outfits, I mean it could be Cool & Sexy.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 21, 2010, 03:22:19 pm
I suggest not to forget saving up for the DLC, since downloading most of them together worth about the same price as buying new Japanese Xbox 360.
Alright, it's still a long way to go...

that means get a JP 360 is the first step then you need the DLC to enjoy the game?  ... . . . . . .. . .
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 21, 2010, 03:53:45 pm
that means get a JP 360 is the first step then you need the DLC to enjoy the game?  ... . . . . . .. . .
Well (as I was told on this forum when questioning about iM@S360 XD), you don't -need- the DLC to enjoy the game. It  just "enhances" it, per se.
The more costumes and songs you have, the more different things you can do with the game, of course.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 21, 2010, 04:31:30 pm
Yes, and the problem is you may have only 50% of the all songs in the game without DLC. Well, that's what happen in Live For You, and that's why I have to get another half from DLC. Who knows how many songs they would create for iDOLM@STER2, and what if they decide to import the old songs only through DLC.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 21, 2010, 06:15:35 pm
Just watched all of the MAGnet show and saw some of the technical side of iM@S.
...eeeeeEEEEEH!? I didn't realise they modelled/rigged the characters in Maya! Makes me want to get back into it >.<

I wish I could sub the video, but my Japanese skills are basic at best =/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 21, 2010, 08:09:15 pm
If you don't want to download it, it's also on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmIGUoQqRms&feature=related

Not mine, btw.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 22, 2010, 12:00:14 am
that means get a JP 360 is the first step then you need the DLC to enjoy the game?  ... . . . . . .. . .

You can totally enjoy it without DLC, though I'd set aside like a few hundred points (a couple of dollars) for e-mail addresses, and I might blow a few more if I find a costume I really like.

If you're fine without playing songs that'll be released in the future, or special outfits, then DLC is completely optional.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 22, 2010, 12:03:01 am
I hope the SP-exclusive songs (Kimi ha Melody, Mata Ne, and L.O.B.M.) are going to be in iM@S2. (With luck, by default, and not up for DLC XD)

With L.O.B.M., in there, it'd make tons of sense if they included the MS songs (Alright*, Genki Tripper, etc. :D) as the characters' songs, too...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 22, 2010, 07:49:02 pm
Anyone miss Harukakka? (Dark Haruka)
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7393/yanharusecrez.jpg) (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/yanharusecrez.jpg/)
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4929/yanharusecrez2.jpg) (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/yanharusecrez2.jpg/)
We'll meet her again...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 22, 2010, 10:59:01 pm
Anyone miss Harukakka? (Dark Haruka)
We'll meet her again...
:D Lol, you read my mind.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 23, 2010, 10:15:37 am
It would be neat if they added the cell phone function in IM@S 2 just like in the arcade version.  Who wouldn't want a mobile e-mail message from their idol/idols?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lunarian on July 23, 2010, 05:04:42 pm
It would be neat if they added the cell phone function in IM@S 2 just like in the arcade version.  Who wouldn't want a mobile e-mail message from their idol/idols?

lol it will be nice  :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 23, 2010, 10:41:15 pm
It would be neat if they added the cell phone function in IM@S 2 just like in the arcade version.  Who wouldn't want a mobile e-mail message from their idol/idols?
as long as it would work with my American phone, yeah.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: KodeShikou on July 23, 2010, 11:11:15 pm
as long as it would work with my American phone, yeah.

Yeah, that'd make things interesting though, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 23, 2010, 11:45:49 pm
I remember doing the math for iDOLM@STER and Live for you...

iDOLM@STER = 24,450 points
Live for You = 61,300
Total together = 85,750

That 35 point cards of 3500 Points.  Which is $1512.50 being importing points, its $1230.25 if you didn't have to.

You will have to pour in money for iDOLM@STER DLC.  I know I will again for iDOLM@STER 2.
I do wonder if they are wearing Cute & Girly outfits, I mean it could be Cool & Sexy.

...which is now an inaccurate calculation, since both iM@S and L4U have dropped most of their prices.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on July 24, 2010, 12:53:12 am
...which is now an inaccurate calculation, since both iM@S and L4U have dropped most of their prices.

This calculation may be inaccurate now but was February 2010.  Its most likely down to mid 70k points being 22 or 23 point cards(original was 25 I don't know why I said 35) of 3500.   Over all the message was DLC isn't cheap.  ;)

If they do add in e-mails messages to mobile phone hopefully they will remember the fanbase outside of Japan.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 24, 2010, 02:24:33 am
YES price reduction i might just buy the first iDOLM@STER when the 2nd comes out. As of now im saving up to be broke.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 24, 2010, 03:51:54 am
If they do add in e-mails messages to mobile phone hopefully they will remember the fanbase outside of Japan.

You mean, like, all 200 of us? ;_;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 24, 2010, 06:56:14 am
It would be neat if they added the cell phone function in IM@S 2 just like in the arcade version.  Who wouldn't want a mobile e-mail message from their idol/idols?
Only problem I see with this is some phones; I don't know about everyone else's, but mine won't recieve messages with foreign characters in it (my phone only does English and Spanish characters).
So if they remembered the overseas fanbase, I'd still be at a loss ;_;
Also, even if they remember us, they don't treat us nicely because iM@S is still on a region-locked console! :(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 24, 2010, 02:46:04 pm
It'll be awesome if you also got emails from idols you aren't producing right now, like Arcade.

I recently got an email from Ritsuko aimed at her mom.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 25, 2010, 08:54:39 am
It'll be awesome if you also got emails from idols you aren't producing right now, like Arcade.

I recently got an email from Ritsuko aimed at her mom.

I'm quite disappointed in myself for not being able to read Japanese fluently enough to enjoy things like this ;_;

Regarding the DIVA x iM@S thing, I just remembered that Ami/Mami's VA is the same for Rin/Len...
I'm also surprised that Luka is getting Chihaya's dress and not someone like Azusa?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 25, 2010, 09:30:24 am
Regarding the DIVA x iM@S thing, I just remembered that Ami/Mami's VA is the same for Rin/Len...
I'm also surprised that Luka is getting Chihaya's dress and not someone like Azusa?
I think they're sticking with the primary colors thing (Red, Yellow, and Blue image colors) similar to what they did at the beginning of the whole SP thing XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 25, 2010, 09:55:11 am
I'm quite disappointed in myself for not being able to read Japanese fluently enough to enjoy things like this ;_;

The obvious solution to this is to play more Japanese video games. ^^

... Especially if you compulsively look up every word you don't know, try translating just about anything you see in your head, speak the lines out loud, and in general run up the play times of the RPGs you play to triple digits as a result. -_-

Keep at it, though, and you'll get better.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on July 25, 2010, 12:55:28 pm
The obvious solution to this is to play more Japanese video games. ^^

... Especially if you compulsively look up every word you don't know, try translating just about anything you see in your head, speak the lines out loud, and in general run up the play times of the RPGs you play to triple digits as a result. -_-

Keep at it, though, and you'll get better.

I should do that... unfortunately it's a little difficult with iM@S when the text keep auto scrolling. Then again, I guess I could just press start. OR I could stop being lazy and just do what I should of done from the start, actually use my Japanese textbooks...

I think they're sticking with the primary colors thing (Red, Yellow, and Blue image colors) similar to what they did at the beginning of the whole SP thing XD

Still... I think Azusa's dress would of fit better ^^;


Any news on the PV2?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: wavehawk on July 25, 2010, 01:52:43 pm
I should do that... unfortunately it's a little difficult with iM@S when the text keep auto scrolling. Then again, I guess I could just press start. OR I could stop being lazy and just do what I should of done from the start, actually use my Japanese textbooks...
- You still have better JP comprehension than I do... :-\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 25, 2010, 05:47:57 pm
I should do that... unfortunately it's a little difficult with iM@S when the text keep auto scrolling. Then again, I guess I could just press start. OR I could stop being lazy and just do what I should of done from the start, actually use my Japanese textbooks...
Aww, but videogames are such a useful technique! To be entirely honest, I probably would've never gotten the entire Japanese "alphabet" if it wasn't for iM@S ^^; Never did I memorize them faster than when I started playing videogames in Japanese.
...I can't comprehend a ton, but it also doesn't help that I studied Spanish in school while trying to memorize said Japanese...XD I've never actually studied Japanese; all of what I know is from song lyrics...or iM@S ...or anime.

Still... I think Azusa's dress would of fit better ^^;
Yeah...thinking about it, Luka would fit Azusa's dress better than Chihaya's. But we'll have to hold out until the 29th to see XDD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 25, 2010, 07:38:52 pm
Aww, but videogames are such a useful technique! To be entirely honest, I probably would've never gotten the entire Japanese "alphabet" if it wasn't for iM@S ^^; Never did I memorize them faster than when I started playing videogames in Japanese.

Similarly, I learned most of the Kanji I know from playing im@s... especially since in the instruction booklet all the kanji has the hiragana readings.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on July 25, 2010, 10:56:13 pm
and in general run up the play times of the RPGs you play to triple digits as a result. -_-
I did this several times with the Tales series, and really learned nothing much besides basic Japanese and words that I'd never need to use anyways.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on July 26, 2010, 02:08:46 am
I've been trying to study the language on my own, but I would prefer a classroom environment so I can have others to talk with so I can practice what I learn for the language. I can pick up words here and there, but it isn't enough to maximize gameplay for Idolm@ster. (and kanji are still but squiggly lines to me)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on July 26, 2010, 07:18:02 am
I've been trying to study the language on my own, but I would prefer a classroom environment so I can have others to talk with so I can practice what I learn for the language. I can pick up words here and there, but it isn't enough to maximize gameplay for Idolm@ster. (and kanji are still but squiggly lines to me)
I'd prefer a Tutor sense it would be one on one and faster to learn but yet again a classroom enviroment would be funner to practice Japanese with other people.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 26, 2010, 02:10:45 pm
IMO, having a classroom environment with a moderate amount of people is the way to go when learning a foreign language.

BTW, today is Idolmaster's 5th birthday (since official arcade release.)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 26, 2010, 08:52:44 pm
BTW, today is Idolmaster's 5th birthday (since official arcade release.)
Happy birthday Im@S
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 26, 2010, 09:50:28 pm
Happy birthday, iDOLM@STER~! What a birthday, indeed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on July 26, 2010, 10:22:58 pm
 Guess I picked a good time to come back out of hiding, then. XD Happy birthday, iM@S. ^_^
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 26, 2010, 11:16:40 pm
IMO, having a classroom environment with a moderate amount of people is the way to go when learning a foreign language.

BTW, today is Idolmaster's 5th birthday (since official arcade release.)

In my experience, they only get you so far before you just have to start translating stuff yourself, but everyone's different (and it does take a few years to get there). Still, having someone around to answer questions for you is good, especially if they really will talk to you in the language. Also, if you don't have any other option for learning a language... you'll just have to learn it yourself. It's entirely possible, even if it requires a lot of work.

And, happy birthday Im@s!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 27, 2010, 03:36:53 am
BTW, today is Idolmaster's 5th birthday (since official arcade release.)
I thought we had celebrate twice already, but I don't mind having another!
Long Live the iM@S !!!!! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 27, 2010, 03:45:05 am
In my experience, they only get you so far before you just have to start translating stuff yourself, but everyone's different (and it does take a few years to get there). Still, having someone around to answer questions for you is good, especially if they really will talk to you in the language. Also, if you don't have any other option for learning a language... you'll just have to learn it yourself. It's entirely possible, even if it requires a lot of work.
learning a new lenguage is hard in the begining, but with practice (well actually with a lot of practice) is easy to start reading, writing or even speaking in the lenguage that your are learning. but japanese leanguage is a little different i think........

BTW, today is Idolmaster's 5th birthday (since official arcade release.)
Happy birthday IM@S
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 27, 2010, 07:20:29 am
IMO, having a classroom environment with a moderate amount of people is the way to go when learning a foreign language.

BTW, today is Idolmaster's 5th birthday (since official arcade release.)

Happy BirthDay Im@s!

My celebration involved some im@s music, lots of nicovids and pie :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on July 27, 2010, 10:57:27 pm
My celebration involved some im@s music, lots of nicovids and pie :D
I had some cake

Anywho Happy Birthday IM@S
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on July 28, 2010, 12:08:46 am
For their 5th birthday, I upoladed some videos on youtube.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on July 28, 2010, 12:36:53 am
I made a rainbow cake using all the image colors I could make~ I decorated it with boston creme and candy too. <3
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 28, 2010, 04:49:59 am
I slept.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 28, 2010, 04:55:27 am
I made a rainbow cake using all the image colors I could make~ I decorated it with boston creme and candy too. <3

this made my pie jeallous D:
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 29, 2010, 09:40:52 am
Come to think of it, the Im@s channel on Nico is releasing PVs of old stuff, at the rate of one per day all prefixed with Countdown 5, 4.5 (released on the same day as 5), 4, 3, and 2.

... I'm guessing an official, full PV2 on 31 July?

EDIT: Countdown 4.5 was released later on the same day as Countdown 5, not 4. Whoops.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on July 29, 2010, 09:42:02 am
Come to think of it, the Im@s channel on Nico is releasing PVs of old stuff, at the rate of one per day, all prefixed with Countdown 5, 4, 4.5 (released on the same day as 4), 3, and 2.

... I'm guessing an official, full PV2 on 31 July?

I hope you're right, I sooo hope you're right XD They've kept PV2 from us for long enough, haven't they?

edit: Holy cow, those iM@S Arcade PVs. *rubs eyes*

and the iM@S360 PV...the first true iM@S video I saw. Memories, memories. |3c
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 29, 2010, 09:57:23 am
Geh... alright, I should be more thorough before I post.

From Countdown 5's posting:

Quote from: たるき亭
たるき亭、店員の小川です。プロデューサーの皆様からの「当店のリニューアル」や「2ndPV」の要望をお伝えしたところ、7/30(金)お昼12時予定で「たるき亭」リニューアルオープンが決定したそうです!
それまで毎日「お昼の12時にランチサービスをお出ししなさい」とのことで、本日はこの動画をお送りいたします。
7/3・4に幕張メッセ5周年ライブで公開された「AC版アイドルマスター」の貴重なPVです。
ライブに参加したPも、自宅待機だったPも、ぜひ熱いコール(コメント)を送って下さいね!

This is Kogawa, from Tarugi-Tei. For all you producers wanting us to redo our site, or wanting us to up the 2nd PV, we're planning on reopening Tarugi-Tei on Friday, 30 July, at 12 noon!

Until then, we'll be popping up vids as a little lunch special for you every day at noon. 'Cause we were told to.

These are the ever important Arcadem@s PVs we showed at the 5th Memorial Live that happened 3 and 4 July at Makuhari Messe. Whether you were able to make it there, or had to guard the fort instead, please bring on the comments! And make sure they burn with the fires of your soul! [translator: yeah, feeling a little happy right now]

----------

I notice he doesn't actually say that they'll release the PV, but he still heavily implies it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on July 30, 2010, 05:09:09 am
Oh hey, PV2 is here.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1279605876
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on July 30, 2010, 05:19:57 am
Oh hey, PV2 is here.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1279605876

I was waiting a while for this. But I would also like to see what other new songs they have. I'll just have to wait and see in the next pv that comes out.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 30, 2010, 05:30:13 am
きた北着た来たキタああああああああああああああ!!!!!!

But when you get right down to it... it's really not showing much?

I mean, we all know we've got 5 people on stage, and idols hold hands and stuff...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 30, 2010, 05:47:59 am
Much juicier than PV1~
I guess Yukiho will never be innocent...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on July 30, 2010, 06:02:37 am
It wasn't much, but seeing the full 5 person dance was fun! Azusa's new haircut is growing on me... She looks so cute! <3

Well, now I have something new to teach AnimeAnnika when she spends the night tomorrow~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 30, 2010, 06:04:22 am
Ami And Mami on stage At the same time... sweet
LOL yep is fun to see five person on stage
Much juicier than PV1~
I guess Yukiho will never be innocent...
may i ask why?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 30, 2010, 06:42:04 am
Oh hey, PV2 is here.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1279605876

splendid. just a friendly question.

is there a source for this video in same or similar quality to the first pv posted several pages before?

...60fps its just delicious.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 30, 2010, 07:01:27 am
splendid. just a friendly question.

is there a source for this video in same or similar quality to the first pv posted several pages before?

...60fps its just delicious.


... Not until someone can get the non-low quality version of it to load and posts it on YouTube or something, I'm guessing. Right now, it looks like Nico's getting hammered with people wanting to see PV2, so it's giving regular people the low-quality version.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 30, 2010, 07:02:36 am
Oh man~
Ami and Mami are legitimately on stage together, finally~.
And Azusa and Takane doing the high-five was a slight nerdgasm for me. ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 30, 2010, 07:28:25 am
Ami And Mami on stage At the same time... sweet
LOL yep is fun to see five person on stage may i ask why?
Yukiho @ 2:30
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on July 30, 2010, 07:35:49 am
Much juicier than PV1~

Aka: More Takane and Hibiki?

(oh crap scotty posted while i was posting this)

"Mami as leader... is that okay?" is what i roughly heard / read, not 100% sure but it was cute XD

Oh gosh, Yayoi and Yukiho in the dance... isn't that hard on the knees?!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 30, 2010, 07:58:48 am
Oh hey, PV2 is here.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1279605876
Well, it looks not much different from the PV1. More like reuploaded version.
 Still, it's good to see the full version of "The World is All One" (I mean with 5 idols, of course).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 30, 2010, 09:05:18 am
Yukiho @ 2:30


Aw Scotty! You got a sick mind!

Can't really judge you though. I was thinking the same thing. :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: satty on July 30, 2010, 09:20:51 am
Yarg...wish to see this, but Nico is never nice to me  :'(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 30, 2010, 10:02:36 am
Yarg...wish to see this, but Nico is never nice to me  :'(

Then you can go here! Thought this would happen soon. It's higher quality than the one I saw...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9EGBTrjgIw
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: satty on July 30, 2010, 10:50:42 am
At least it shows 5-idol groups, that's good.

And, Scotty: Yarg, can't unsee.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on July 30, 2010, 11:38:25 am
Yukiho @ 2:30

??? I don't get it
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 30, 2010, 03:03:19 pm
??? I don't get it
Me too.. i dont understand japanese but i guess yukiho said something strange.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on July 30, 2010, 04:41:37 pm
HD version on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnQoV_wlrjw
[Edit: the link has been changed to the better one]

Now waiting for the subtitled one and...
High quality PV download links from 4gamer.
Download version (60fps) 363.2MB
I'm looking forward to 60fps version, too! Please nowano, onegaishimasu!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on July 30, 2010, 06:18:50 pm
Wow 2nd PV was a lot more interesting than PV 1.
I'm curious to see more of actual gameplay like lessons.

Also, that hip thing did not look weird in a three person unit...but once yukiho and yayoi get on their knees...that is just plain awkward.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 30, 2010, 07:09:42 pm
??? I don't get it
Me too.. i dont understand japanese but i guess yukiho said something strange.

Ah you innocent, ignorant guys. You'll understand when your older.

........

Damn, now I feel old. :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: azuyuki on July 30, 2010, 10:31:53 pm
But I'm Azusa's current age (and mentality).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 30, 2010, 11:58:14 pm
http://www.4gamer.net/games/052/G005257/20100703004/ (http://www.4gamer.net/games/052/G005257/20100703004/)

High quality PV download links from 4gamer.
PV Download version (30fps) 243.2MB (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100703_imas2_pv-A1_3p_0703_MPEG4-AVC_30fps_8M.zip)
PV Download version (60fps) 363.2MB (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100703_imas2_pv-A1_3p_0703_MPEG4-AVC_60fps_12M.zip)

dear extranger-san if you find a link  like this and share it, you will be blessed with abundant harvests on all your fields for the rest of the eternity. (you'll never be hungry.... never....)

btw... never thanked for this before, thnx nowano.

Ah you innocent, ignorant guys. You'll understand when your older.

........

Damn, now I feel old. :D

hey old-man share us your knowledge pleese, i'm curious :(

But I'm Azusa's current age (and mentality).

same here =)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on July 31, 2010, 12:47:15 am
Indeed, please share your wisdom, oji-san  ???

I like seeing dances with five idols and all, but it does make it harder to identify voices...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 31, 2010, 02:27:02 am
But I'm Azusa's current age (and mentality).

Well there's your problem~

;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 31, 2010, 04:06:32 am
well
Ah you innocent, ignorant guys. You'll understand when your older.

........

Damn, now I feel old. :D
innocent? ignorant? LoL why not? now tell me why i'm ignorant and innocent ... old man


But I'm Azusa's current age (and mentality).

me too.... but maybe in the age part.... not in  the mentality part.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on July 31, 2010, 04:31:39 am
The second PV is now available on the JP 360 marketplace.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 31, 2010, 05:56:21 am
Indeed, please share your wisdom, oji-san  ???
well innocent? ignorant? LoL why not? now tell me why i'm ignorant and innocent ... old man

Ojii-san! Old man!

Ojii-san! Old man!

^_^


But based on all the comments I've seen... I think the answer won't be G-rated.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on July 31, 2010, 06:01:55 am
Ah you innocent, ignorant guys. You'll understand when your older.

........

Damn, now I feel old. :D
Because yes, you ARE old. j/k

But seriously, you guys are taking that scene too seriously. I didn't find that part so.....arousing? Sexual?

EDIT: Now that I think about it, when you look at it from a certain perspective, I can conclude that you guys are a bunch of pervs. lol XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on July 31, 2010, 06:47:05 am
I like seeing dances with five idols and all, but it does make it harder to identify voices...

Meh. It's sounds more or less the same as if there were three idols. :P

EDIT: Now that I think about it, when you look at it from a certain perspective, I can conclude that you guys are a bunch of pervs. lol XD

Ah yes, this young child is beginning to understand....

*feels like he aged a few years* :P
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on July 31, 2010, 07:14:37 am
EDIT: Now that I think about it, when you look at it from a certain perspective, I can conclude that you guys are a bunch of pervs. lol XD
I know its truth but...... actually read that from other people..... it hurts
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on July 31, 2010, 08:08:55 am
The second PV is now available on the JP 360 marketplace.

yaaaaaaay... now I have to recover my 360....

[/quote]
I know its truth but...... actually read that from other people..... it hurts

well actually I enjoy when other people tells me that...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on July 31, 2010, 09:20:50 am
I know its truth but...... actually read that from other people..... it hurts

well actually I enjoy when other people tells me that...

Okay, now you guys've just lost me. That's okay, don't concern yourself...

Uhmm... so uh... Miki! Looks like Kirino from Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai. I like that series.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on July 31, 2010, 09:21:52 am
The Engrish....

...it's so hard on my brain right now...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on August 01, 2010, 04:04:39 am
... So after I actually sat down and watched the trailer instead of skimming through it, I noticed that Yukiho and Yayoi high-fived too.

... I-I just felt like pointing that out ._.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on August 01, 2010, 06:17:54 am
Oh man, I go away for a day and PV2 is shown >.<

I don't have the chance to watch as I'm at work atm =/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on August 01, 2010, 07:28:36 am
when they sing "the world is all one" part
it sounds like they're saying "ZA WARUDO, ALLRIGHT!"
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on August 01, 2010, 12:51:27 pm
domelola has translate and uploaded the english sub 2nd PV on his channel.
Thanks again, domelola. ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on August 01, 2010, 08:15:19 pm
domelola has translate and uploaded the english sub 2nd PV on his channel.
Thanks again, domelola. ;)
He's such a great person.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on August 01, 2010, 08:45:24 pm
Lets hope Wakamura makes a MAD out of this one too
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 08:49:10 am
I left town (again OTZ) and missed the release of PV2. And I finally get my answer! Mami has shorts and Ami has a skirt. Must create trio with both of them in it...

Must say, the part where Yayoi and Yukiho were on their knees was a bit weird-looking...(though I suppose, like everything else, I'll get used to it after I watch the video a few times). I do think it's interesting in that it's something that's definitely never been done before. Also...I'm loving Azusa's haircut more and more as we see more of it :D

5 idols on stage is so much to look at all at once...but I love it. So many idols dancing on stage! I do wonder what they'll do with other songs, as well.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on August 03, 2010, 09:09:54 am
I finally get my answer! Mami has shorts and Ami has a skirt.
Ami plays the feminine side while Mami plays a bit boyish, like always.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 09:55:30 am
Ami plays the feminine side while Mami plays a bit boyish, like always.
Whereas they may switch that role in the (Cute & Girly?) costumes; Ami definitely has shorts while it looks like Mami may (or may not) have a skirt.

It's exciting to see them as separate idols with their own entities (though, they don't look as much like twins anymore, which is a little sad).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on August 03, 2010, 01:27:13 pm
By the way... what the heck kind of costumes are these?? They've got the pink of a Cute & Girly costume, the revealingness of a Cool & Sexy costume and the general oddness of a Cosmic & Funny costume!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on August 03, 2010, 02:53:26 pm
By the way... what the heck kind of costumes are these?? They've got the pink of a Cute & Girly costume, the revealingness of a Cool & Sexy costume and the general oddness of a Cosmic & Funny costume!
I believe they are the new version of Cool & Sexy. Actually, the old Cool & Sexy also has the pink color selection.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 03, 2010, 05:31:05 pm
5 idols on stage is so much to look at all at once...
Speaking of 5 idols on the stage all at once...I hope Im@s 2 does not allow for 4 idol units because based on the dances it would look way awkward!
I believe they are the new version of Cool & Sexy. Actually, the old Cool & Sexy also has the pink color selection.
I also think that because of the body art on Azusa and Ritsuko.
Maybe in Im@s 2 the outfits have new names.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 06:22:22 pm
I'd call them Cool & Sexy costumes, if anything, because they're mostly made up of that shiny, sparkly...stuff (and, of course; them being pink can't be a factor; all of the costumes come in different colors ;))

Though, I can't wait to see what the Cosmic & Funny costumes look like. That's my favorite costume category :D

Speaking of 5 idols on the stage all at once...I hope Im@s 2 does not allow for 4 idol units because based on the dances it would look way awkward!
I was thinking about that, too. When we first heard there would be 5-idol units, I wanted to ask if we'd just be able to produce 3- and 5 - idols or 4- idol groups, too. To keep the stage looking even (and per usual iM@S trio-tradition), the "missing" idol would be the one in the center, which...would throw a lot of things off, I think  :-X
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 03, 2010, 06:42:08 pm
The costumes from the silhouettes are still a mystery too...
Ritsuko doesn't even seem to be in a costume in there.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 06:47:39 pm
The costumes from the silhouettes are still a mystery too...
Ritsuko doesn't even seem to be in a costume in there.
True; considering everyone's wearing skirts and she's wearing what looks like a pantsuit...I do wonder what they're doing with that.

I was hoping PV2 would show us some new costumes (maybe hope for a PV3?), though I wonder...if they hold out on us because they haven't finalized or even figured out what some of this stuff we're questioning is XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on August 03, 2010, 07:01:16 pm
Agree, there're still a lot they haven't finished. For example, "The World is All One" still only has the allstars version. Cause normally they suppose to shows that the song will change according the singers, which are shown in all previous PVs. Maybe they showed the PVs too early, perhaps.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 07:19:17 pm
Agree, there're still a lot they haven't finished. For example, "The World is All One" still only has the allstars version. Cause normally they suppose to shows that the song will change according the singers, which are shown in all previous PVs. Maybe they showed the PVs too early, perhaps.
I guess that since the minimum you can have on stage is 3, they're showing the "maximum" (similar to how TGS's iM@S360 PV had an all-star version of Go My Way!!)

When they showcase new costumes, they can also have idols sing individual lines so we can hear them sing one-by-one :D (no, but really, I do hope they left in the feature that you can pick which idol sings which lines).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 03, 2010, 07:23:47 pm
Seeing as unity is the theme of this new game it'll probably be like the original where you need to have a producer rank of x (probably 3 again) to select individual lines.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 07:27:11 pm
As long as it's in the game somehow, I'm good ;D It's likely you can only produce 3-idol units until your Producer rank goes up, as well (though that's not too hard; it usually goes up whenever you complete a produce, doesn't it? *only has SP-wise knowledge*)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 03, 2010, 07:30:01 pm
Yep. It'll take a couple of playthroughs though.
In the PVS they show how you can pick a leader of the group. I wonder if that means you also pick the positions of the other idols unlike xbox360 where it was memory/tension based.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 07:33:08 pm
Yep. It'll take a couple of playthroughs though.
In the PVS they show how you can pick a leader of the group. I wonder if that means you also pick the positions of the other idols unlike xbox360 where it was memory/tension based.
It was memory/tension based? I thought it was simply leader = center, 2nd (i.e. second idol you chose) = to the left, 3rd = to the right, and that's how it always was, from week 1 to week 52.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on August 03, 2010, 08:17:27 pm
It was memory/tension based? I thought it was simply leader = center, 2nd (i.e. second idol you chose) = to the left, 3rd = to the right, and that's how it always was, from week 1 to week 52.

I thought it was based on how much the idol likes you, but that just might be me.

I got Haruka down with less memories than Miki, but she stayed the leader. When I beat the game once, I had Haruka's trust at D-ish or so, and Miki at like... Z.

And The World is All One? They've finished recording it if they've got parts for everyone. They'll just turn off the voices of idols you're not producing.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 03, 2010, 08:25:42 pm
I thought it was based on how much the idol likes you, but that just might be me.
Well, my word can't be taken for it, I don't have the 360 to play the game XD Though it is 1st = center, 2nd = left, 3rd = right in L4U, and that's what I was basing it from (since SP doesn't let us produce amazing duo and trio units).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 03, 2010, 08:53:03 pm
I thought it was based on how much the idol likes you, but that just might be me.
I think you're right, I just didn't know how to word it.  :P

When you initially pick your duo/trio that is how it works though.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on August 03, 2010, 10:58:20 pm
I can't wait for Danketsu to become one of the songs in iM@S 2!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on August 03, 2010, 11:09:03 pm
I can't wait for Danketsu to become one of the songs in iM@S 2!
That would be awesome :)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 04, 2010, 12:11:51 am
I can't wait for Danketsu to become one of the songs in iM@S 2!
That would be awesome :)
Seconded. :D Though, wasn't Danketsu a song in the 360 Katamari Damacy?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on August 04, 2010, 01:13:54 am
Yep.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on August 06, 2010, 06:44:53 pm
60fps 12Mbps MP4 High Quality PV2 Download (http://download.dengeki.com/imas_pv2.zip) (299MB) from Dengeki
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/ (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/)

I can't wait for Danketsu to become one of the songs in iM@S 2!
There will be a new version of Danketsu for the new CD (http://ameblo.jp/project-imas/entry-10610869506.html)!  ;D



Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 06, 2010, 07:30:36 pm
60fps 12Mbps MP4 High Quality PV2 Download (http://download.dengeki.com/imas_pv2.zip) (299MB) from Dengeki
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/ (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/)
Your download button is broken, sir (and I can't quite find the download button on the site...^^; )  Hey, there's a 2nd page. That link doesn't work, either? ???
There will be a new version of Danketsu for the new CD (http://ameblo.jp/project-imas/entry-10610869506.html)!  ;D
They're making a whole new series of Master Artist CDs, too? Ohh, I can't wait for those :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on August 06, 2010, 07:33:50 pm
They're making a whole new series of Master Artist CDs, too? Ohh, I can't wait for those
Hopefully Takane and Hibiki will get Master Artist albums now.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on August 06, 2010, 07:51:51 pm
Your download button is broken, sir (and I can't quite find the download button on the site...^^; ) Hey, there's a 2nd page.
It says server busy. Just wait a while and try it later.  :)

Hopefully Takane and Hibiki will get Master Artist albums now.
Definately will! Actually Hibiki's album is confirmed already.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on August 06, 2010, 08:01:11 pm
Definately will! Actually Hibiki's album is confirmed already.
Yes after all this time! I've been waiting forever.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on August 06, 2010, 09:53:05 pm
60fps 12Mbps MP4 High Quality PV2 Download (http://download.dengeki.com/imas_pv2.zip) (299MB) from Dengeki
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/ (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/)
There will be a new version of Danketsu for the new CD (http://ameblo.jp/project-imas/entry-10610869506.html)!  ;D

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, man thanks !!!!! the link worked for me.

also I'm definetly looking forward takane's MA.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 06, 2010, 09:56:50 pm
It says server busy. Just wait a while and try it later.  :)
Thanks a ton! (The page came up with gibberish, for me; usually if the actual Japanese characters show I can get the gist of what's going on, but in this case...) I got the download now~

By the way...with the new Master Artist CDs, it looks like they're taking requests again, for Haruka, Miki, Hibiki, and a trio song for the 3.

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on August 07, 2010, 04:52:33 am
new master Artist Albums  wow thats great!!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on August 07, 2010, 06:11:17 pm
60fps 12Mbps MP4 High Quality PV2 Download (http://download.dengeki.com/imas_pv2.zip) (299MB) from Dengeki
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/ (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/)
Woo! Here it comes! Thank you Sir! :D XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on August 08, 2010, 05:36:33 pm
60fps 12Mbps MP4 High Quality PV2 Download (http://download.dengeki.com/imas_pv2.zip) (299MB) from Dengeki
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/ (http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/288/288811/)

YES!... NO!... my internet quota is in the few hundred megs. I can't download it until it rolls over to the new period >.<
Thanks for the link!


There will be a new version of Danketsu for the new CD (http://ameblo.jp/project-imas/entry-10610869506.html)!  ;D

YES!!... NOOOH!! I spent a fortune getting all the previous Master Artist CDs >.<


Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on August 09, 2010, 10:23:29 am
YES!!... NOOOH!! I spent a fortune getting all the previous Master Artist CDs >.<
Be a pirate get free music.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on August 09, 2010, 03:30:01 pm
Be a pirate get free music.

You shouldn't say that Man!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on August 09, 2010, 04:54:18 pm
Be a pirate get free music.

Owning these things brings a sensation you just can't get from pirating.

I download, yes, but if I were given the means to easily buy them, I would.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: KodeShikou on August 09, 2010, 08:54:23 pm
Owning these things brings a sensation you just can't get from pirating.

I download, yes, but if I were given the means to easily buy them, I would.

I agree. I own Masterwork 02, and Master Artists 1, 3, and 4. A few of them came with some cool cards, that's definitely something you can't get from pirating.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on August 11, 2010, 11:15:54 am
part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VOuY1Voqzs
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on August 11, 2010, 11:31:06 am
part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VOuY1Voqzs
Leonardo da Vinci couldn't of done something so beautiful.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on August 11, 2010, 09:27:57 pm
part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VOuY1Voqzs

maybe the world its not prepared for 4D graphics....
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on August 13, 2010, 04:16:00 am
part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VOuY1Voqzs


....... thats all i have to say
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on August 13, 2010, 08:25:51 am
part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VOuY1Voqzs

I. Am. In. Love.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on August 15, 2010, 04:54:03 am
Just joined and been reading all 47 pages, has got to be the longest thread I've read non-stop-in-one-go lol (non-stop if you discount me watching all the video links anyway) and the more I see of it the more I want it to be "Spring 2011" already. While on that, I heard somewhere its secretly marked as February 2011, something about a note about idolmaster on a staff blog made in February 2010 saying "this time next year". Thats all it said apparently and I don't have the link, but that's a little closer. Anyone else seen that?

The only benefit of the wait is that I too need to save up the cash for an Xbox-J. I'm intending on getting the Asia HK/SG version as I'm in the UK (same power/voltage).

I really love both PVs, although I was hoping for a bit more in PV2, seeing 5 idols just looks amazing, I have so many youtube videos of 3 idols and I used to think that was awesome - the all stars are too of course but for in-game 5 is going to be great. I like the new look as well, Yukiho looks great and I totally didn't recognise Makoto, I was still half wondering if it was her I was seeing until I had seen PV2. She looks pretty hawt tho I think lol. I liked the train going round the stage too. Combine that with 5 idols and I forgot who said it but that pyramid idea and an accident could be quite messy.

part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VOuY1Voqzs

I didn't get to comment on the first one, but both of them really cracked me up. And I confess to wanting to see what you did for 2:30 on PV2 lol.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on August 15, 2010, 05:30:42 am
I liked the train going round the stage too.

The train. What the crap, train? I want to either ride it, or kick it. Both involve amusement.

Though, there was an allegedly leaked release schedule from some insider in Microsoft stating Im@s 2 was looking for a February release. It was linked from Sankaku, I'm pretty sure, and posted here somewhere.

EDIT: Oh wait! It's the first post of this thread!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on August 16, 2010, 04:26:43 am
The train. What the crap, train? I want to either ride it, or kick it. Both involve amusement.

Now that you've said that it makes me think about Yukiho sitting on top riding it around the stage, preferably in that little mini skirt lol That would be amusement for me certainly, perhaps I'm just easily pleased lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on August 16, 2010, 06:21:57 am
That train is amazing. I couldn't decide if I should focus on it or the idols. Anyway, I feel like I'm the only person here who'd just sit there and watch it go around and around while making little train noises... and maybe put a doll on the tracks at some point. Just to see what happens.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 16, 2010, 06:48:09 am
NBGI is going to be in trouble if that train ends up upstaging the idols XD "The World is A--oh LOOK, a train!!"
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on August 16, 2010, 07:03:19 am
New idol: train
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 16, 2010, 07:05:52 am
That's exactly it. Those 2 potential "idol" spaces in the character roster are for the cars of the train.

We see what you did there, NBGI.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 17, 2010, 12:27:44 am
Or maybe they'll throw Kotori or a Dearly Stars idol in there just to mess with us.

But I would totally be that train's producer.  :P
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Markus7P on August 17, 2010, 01:32:31 am
Or maybe they'll throw Kotori or a Dearly Stars idol in there just to mess with us.

But I would totally be that train's producer.  :P
Here you go: www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11493010 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11493010)

Other possibility for using the train:
Maybe this is how will NAMCO present the new accessories now on, like they have done now with Iori's Usagi and other huggy accessoris.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on August 17, 2010, 02:46:00 am
Here you go: www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11493010 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11493010)

Needs Godzilla wrecking the train.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on August 17, 2010, 11:59:04 am
Train = Azusa's Replacement?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on August 17, 2010, 10:51:40 pm
Train = Azusa's Replacement?

nooooooooooooooo don't even joke replacing azusa :(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on August 18, 2010, 01:08:45 pm
Train = Azusa's Replacement?

Nothing could ever replace Azusa!

Cael prepares Abyssal Blade on Tenchy!

... I am wreathed in the bloodlust of devils. I, who wield the sword of demons!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on August 18, 2010, 01:43:36 pm
Nothing could ever replace Azusa!

Cael prepares Abyssal Blade on Tenchy!

... I am wreathed in the bloodlust of devils. I, who wield the sword of demons!

..................ok then.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on August 18, 2010, 01:54:54 pm
..................ok then.

Just playin', man. ^^;

Reference was probably lost, though.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on August 18, 2010, 06:00:25 pm
That's exactly it. Those 2 potential "idol" spaces in the character roster are for the cars of the train.

We see what you did there, NBGI.

Maybe there testing the water to see if we like trains.... 6 months to a years time...

NEW from NBGI:  "The Train Master" ...Raise your train, send it to new places and tracks...paint it different colours...transport lovely idols...make them dance with your train on stage...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 19, 2010, 01:02:45 am
NEW from NBGI:  "The Train Master" ...Raise your train, send it to new places and tracks...paint it different colours...transport lovely idols...make them dance with your train on stage...

So basically a cheap lego loco ripoff. although, none of you have probably played that.  :P

they could totally pull off a train game. but even if they did Idolm@ster 2 would overshadow it.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on August 19, 2010, 02:23:49 am
but even if they did Idolm@ster 2 would overshadow it.  ;D ;D

I don't know... that train looks pretty popular...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on August 19, 2010, 02:28:21 am
(cue mental image of the train going around an empty stage as the The World Is All One bgm plays...)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on August 19, 2010, 04:04:36 am
(cue mental image of the train going around an empty stage as the The World Is All One bgm plays...)

I see your mental image and raise it by adding Yukiho sitting on top of the engine  ;D

So basically a cheap lego loco ripoff. although, none of you have probably played that.  :P

they could totally pull off a train game. but even if they did Idolm@ster 2 would overshadow it.  ;D ;D

I not heard of that... I know Sid Meyier's Railroads however, that's pretty good, its on PC, I play that a lot lol.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 19, 2010, 04:09:26 am
(cue mental image of the train going around an empty stage as the The World Is All One bgm plays...)
That mental image comes all too clearly...I can't believe 13 idols just got upstaged by a train XD

Though, train games aren't a bad idea. After all, Spirit Tracks did pretty well for itself, I hear. Throw the idols into a train XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on August 19, 2010, 07:15:06 am
NEW from NBGI:  "The Train Master" ...Raise your train, send it to new places and tracks...paint it different colours...transport lovely idols...make them dance with your train on stage...

Jesus christ, sign me up, I'll preorder 10 copies!

Makes me wonder though, I wonder if they'll be a Live 4 You! 2 of some sorts :3
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on August 19, 2010, 05:26:00 pm
Makes me wonder though, I wonder if they'll be a Live 4 You! 2 of some sorts :3
I hope there won't be. Cause I want the iDOLM@STER 2 to have the sandbox mode which I can just freely create a concert. Well, it's like this for iM@S SP, right?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 19, 2010, 05:29:02 pm
I hope there won't be. Cause I want the iDOLM@STER 2 to have the sandbox mode which I can just freely create a concert. Well, it's like this for iM@S SP, right?
Yeah, SP has "Office Mode", though it's different from L4U in that you still have to worry about your idol's stats (which usually isn't a problem if you've beaten the game with that idol) so they can still make mistakes.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 20, 2010, 12:22:55 am
If they don't put office mode into Idolm@ster 2 I'm sure a lot of people will be pretty angry since it's one of the best features of SP.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on August 20, 2010, 03:58:03 am
Nah, free auditions weren't anything too special.  I'd love a free L4U mode in iM@S 2 instead.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 20, 2010, 05:08:48 am
I enjoyed doing auditions like in Office Mode (especially the ones with the special rules to them) but L4U style has its pros in that 1: you don't have to do anything to watch the performance and 2: your idol won't fall over or skip lines during the song (or have a visual accident...which really has no effect XD)

What I wonder is if they have an Office/L4U mode, is if they'll still have a 3-idol minimum.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 20, 2010, 06:45:37 am
I don't know if certain songs will be able to be the same with one person.

Like if Danketsu makes it in the game I don't know how that would be one person.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on August 20, 2010, 07:19:45 am
L4U2 as payed DLC? XD

bonus controllable train during performances option?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 20, 2010, 08:17:13 am
I don't know if certain songs will be able to be the same with one person.

Like if Danketsu makes it in the game I don't know how that would be one person.
Yeah, that's the only bad point with it :( Like the earlier point that some songs may look awkward with only 4 people XD

Though, I know that (at least) The World is All One could hold itself pretty well as a solo (odd...) dance-wise.
bonus controllable train during performances option?
With the rising popularity of the train, there's no way that'd be free ;D

Though I secretly hope The tR@INMASTER isn't going to be released in February 2011 XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on August 21, 2010, 02:03:39 am
Though I secretly hope The tR@INMASTER isn't going to be released in February 2011 XD

But the longer it takes for them to release it, the longer we'll have to wait for Train For You! D=
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on August 21, 2010, 08:43:42 am
But the longer it takes for them to release it, the longer we'll have to wait for Train For You! D=
Eh, as great as those two would be, I'd just wait for tRAINM@S SP.  Portable train raising sounds nice.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 21, 2010, 09:12:54 am
Eh, as great as those two would be, I'd just wait for tRAINM@S SP.  Portable train raising sounds nice.
And it'd be region free train raising, too...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on August 21, 2010, 05:55:54 pm
I enjoyed doing auditions like in Office Mode (especially the ones with the special rules to them) but L4U style has its pros in that 1: you don't have to do anything to watch the performance and 2: your idol won't fall over or skip lines during the song (or have a visual accident...which really has no effect XD)

What I wonder is if they have an Office/L4U mode, is if they'll still have a 3-idol minimum.

Biggest problem with office mode I think is being stuck with just one idol, and that my lovable Yukiho is unfortunately incapable of going more than 25 seconds without either falling flat on her face, having clothing issues or forgetting a line. Every time she falls down I cringe, it looks soo painful, I feel bad making her do performances. Maybe I'm just unlucky, but after like 10+ videos shes still the same every time, the others don't seem to have anywhere near as many and there's a reasonable chance of an accident free performance. Chihaya is of course awesome in office mode.

I think from the sound of it (I have never played Live for you)  a new Live for you style mode would be better, and preferably without having to buy it separately lol I just want to be able to put 3 idols on stage, in a maid uniform and make them sing with a cool stage behind. Do that and I will buy lol

But the longer it takes for them to release it, the longer we'll have to wait for Train For You! D=
With downloadable stations, different length trains for more experienced Controllers, different signals (color light, multi function and semaphore), customisable engine sheds for 'maintenance mode'...

Eh, as great as those two would be, I'd just wait for tRAINM@S SP.  Portable train raising sounds nice.
For added realism, play your copy of "The TrainM@ster SP" while on a real train, buy your exact route and re-time your in-game journey to match, announce the next station to your fellow passengers with a cheer before the on-board system does...

... I should go work for Namco.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 21, 2010, 06:01:07 pm
Biggest problem with office mode I think is being stuck with just one idol, and that my lovable Yukiho is unfortunately incapable of going more than 25 seconds without either falling flat on her face, having clothing issues or forgetting a line. Every time she falls down I cringe, it looks soo painful, I feel bad making her do performances. Maybe I'm just unlucky, but after like 10+ videos shes still the same every time, the others don't seem to have anywhere near as many and there's a reasonable chance of an accident free performance. Chihaya is of course awesome in office mode.
Are you saving your idol after you beat the game? Their stats and rank will stay that way, so you get less. With all of the idols I've beaten the game with so far (everyone except for Chihaya, Azusa, and Haruka) has accident-free performances.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on August 21, 2010, 07:38:51 pm
I think 2 or so pages of trains is enough...the joke is getting staler than a cake from portal.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 21, 2010, 08:03:16 pm
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/Animagic4u_PikachuFay/cake.png?t=1282413764)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on August 21, 2010, 08:05:40 pm
I think 2 or so pages of trains is enough...the joke is getting staler than a cake from portal.
I was about to say the same thing. A 2-page offtopic discussion about a MMD video within a major thread is kinda... stupid?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 21, 2010, 08:09:34 pm
I was about to say the same thing. A 2-page offtopic discussion about a MMD video within a major thread is kinda... stupid?
Not an MMD video; just the train going around the stage in the PV.

Though, I guess it's just forum-members talking since there isn't any new iM@S2 info as of late. The releases are few and far between, and the forum (iM@S-side, anyway) kinda dies in between those info releases XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on August 23, 2010, 04:44:29 am
Are you saving your idol after you beat the game? Their stats and rank will stay that way, so you get less. With all of the idols I've beaten the game with so far (everyone except for Chihaya, Azusa, and Haruka) has accident-free performances.

That would be the problem right there - as I haven't beaten the game yet, I am playing story mode with Yukiho at the moment but not doing very well lol.

Back to the subject of trains and cake... I mean PV2... I noticed the large screen at the back of the stage only ever showed the colour patterns, where in the previous games on the Xbox it would often cut to showing the girls on stage. I'm wondering if that's an indication of it not being quite ready yet, or if its just because its not really game play and just a PV made to look like it. Hopefully something like that and not an indication of running out of graphics / cpu power to run the screen as well.

Anyone want to guess when we might see PV3? If February 2011 is a target date maybe we'll see another in September?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on August 23, 2010, 04:49:00 am
Perhaps with the 5 idol thing they're still trying to work out that mechanic.

also, I think they were trying really hard to get the pvs out because it looks weird when you're a game developer this far into development and you don't have gameplay footage out.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 25, 2010, 07:14:44 am
Even with both of the PVs out, they're very similar. Same song, same costume, same stage, and...generally same setup XD The little conversation-bits are different, though similar.

I know they can't show us all of the stuff before the game comes out, but I hope potential-PV3 shows SOMETHING entirely new. I vote at least new costume. And maybe a new song.

Or a Danketsu preview?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on August 25, 2010, 01:39:50 pm
Looking back, they never really do show that many trailers before the release of a game. It's only after, for the sake of DLC.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on August 25, 2010, 02:10:47 pm
Looking back, they never really do show that many trailers before the release of a game. It's only after, for the sake of DLC.
Yes, and they don't seems to create the trailer seriously anyway.
Better not expecting to see anything new until we try it ourselves, I guess.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on August 25, 2010, 08:14:00 pm
I just want to know if the gameplay's changed. It probably hasn't.

But yeah, the game's still being made, they probably only had the chance to fine tune only a dance or two. I'm willing to bet that they finished the first PV some time ago, without dancing models for Azusa, Ritsuko, and Iori (and I guess Ami). They then were finished, and made the second when they realized they had enough time to do so.

That's my guess, at any rate. If I'm allowed to guess again, maybe around Winter sometime we'll see a more complete trailer. I think it's standard to do a teaser PV to show that a game's being made, then do another closer to release when everything's more or less not going to change before release.

EDIT: Oh yeah, anyone who can read Japanese can check out what non-Japanese people think about Im@s2's PVs, and what the Japanese think about what we think. Sadly, no Yurishii comments, though the vid does say that our comments are much the same.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11850265
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11850926
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on August 26, 2010, 01:53:26 am
I'm sure the gameplay's changed a -little- in some way or another from SP and iM@S360.

And...even the 'usual' PV-release things for games, I wish they'd show more.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 02, 2010, 05:04:49 pm
CEDEC iM@S2 Programing Preview
Part 1 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11971951)
Part 2 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11972169)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 02, 2010, 06:48:36 pm
CEDEC iM@S2 Programing Preview
Part 1 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11971951)
Part 2 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11972169)

Good find! Will watch, and try to understand.

Just... for everyone else, on a cursory flip through, skip to the 5 minute mark on the first vid, since there's introductions and 2nd PV to go through. It's one hour total.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 02, 2010, 06:56:35 pm
CEDEC iM@S2 Programing Preview
Part 1 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11971951)
Part 2 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11972169)
Well, that was interesting. Of course, basing it solely on images...XD With the slideshow, you can still get a lot of what they're getting across.

Though, that guy spent a -long- time just to explain the new game has gradient/softshaded graphics rather than the hard cel-shade in iM@S360/L4U. @.@ After that, I skipped through pretty much anything that didn't have a picture of an idol or the stage on the slideshow...

The thing they did with the hair physics (Yayoi's and Takane's) was pretty cool.

Also...they show promise for the accessories having more movement in the game as well? Or were they just talking about the default accessories on the costumes?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 02, 2010, 11:09:26 pm
Okay, so I wrote down my thoughts on the first part of the video, but... it's long. Very long. So, I'll just condense it.

10:00 - Coloring in toon shading. In real shading, there's a gradual darkening of color as you get more shadowed, but in toon shading, there's cutoff values for shadows, and colors abruptly transition there. In L4U!, they split three colors evenly across the band, and apply a small gradient (blur) between them so that color transitions aren't jagged. It's not evenly split in Im@s2, they changed it a bit.

12:30 - Self-shadowing light is determined by camera position in L4U!, so that the idols always look nice and lit. Check the pictures on the right: You might rotate the camera, but the light remains squarely in front of Yukiho.

16:00 - Comparison of just playing with shader parameters. They call what they're doing Sensitive Tooning, but the differences I think are hard to tell with the video quality we're getting. Hibiki's hair is all shadowed in the right, as opposed to the left. Also, for Haruka, look at the jacket shadow near the ribbon on her right (viewer's left).

18:20 - Self shadowing using bounding spheres and shadow maps. It doesn't look like the bottom of Mami's clothes (the shirt, miniskirt) were being shadowed on the left. I guess with more more bounding spheres, you get the right. I don't know what they did in L4U, though, so I can't compare.

19:20 - They're adjusting the amount of self-shadow cast on the face get by their facing relative to the camera. As they turn, you can see the amount of shadow that's used is increasing, but it looks like the light source stays where it is (relative to the camera).

21:20 - The stage lighting is done with a point light at center stage (where the idol is normally), shining in all directions. They apply fog based on distance from this light away from front stage. Again for visual appeal (haha), the stage should be dark, while the idol in light.

22:20 - So, there are things that've changed about stages in Im@s2, including moving objects on stage (like that train). They're using normal maps, particle effects, and... he talks fast.

24:45 - The wave moves in the background, also look at the leaves of the trees. I can't really understand everything he's saying with the movie in the background, but for everything he points out, he says he'll be explaining them later.

That took a while. I'll watch the rest later.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 04, 2010, 12:13:12 am
Second part, up to 10 minutes, when this segment ends and the animation segment begins.

0:20 - Toon shaded character against a non-toon shaded background (first pic, second top left). It was kinda jarring, so they applied soft focus (top right), and messed with the depth of field (bottom left). The bottom right shows both effects in place. They're similar effects (both are blurring effects), but they do slightly different things.

2:30 - They're using light bloom for a more HDR feel. Check the lights in the background. They also say "flare," which I assume is lens flare, but he doesn't mention it.

3:40 - Oooh, totally missed something here, but for the middle camera (and the long camera), I think they were saying that the depth of field wasn't really working out as well as they'd hoped.

4:20 - No matter how I look at this, the entire thing looks like an action pic. Yayoi totally parried the Yukiho Chop, Takane is looking like she owns the world. Let's get back to the main topic, though... they're using light bloom, depth of field, soft focus, and lens flare. Everything's rendered using 4x multi-sampling anti-aliasing, which pretty much means that the source is rendered at 4x resolution (so 1900x1080 becomes like... 7600x4320), then downsampled to the destination resolution. This is done to reduce jaggies or visible seams where polygons meet.

5:20 - The shadows are not consistent here. I think I know what he's getting at in the second picture, though. Self-shadows are done for objects individually, and the light source used for one idol's self-shadows isn't the same as the light source used for another's. This is why the shadows in the first picture aren't consistent with each other, since they were calculated independently. However, they can't go to using a global light source for everyone, since that might cause shadows they don't want.

7:50 - Clockwise, from top left: new shader, post-processing, self-shadowing, five idols, 4x multi-sampling anti-aliasing, 60 fps. The caption: To reduce increasing load, all these systems must be redone... and he adds the fact that they scrapped them completely. As an aside, the details will not be in next month's Gemaga, even if they say they're revealing secrets.

9:00 - Pretty much everything changed. I think he says they stopped using the middleware they were using, and data formats for models and such changed around. Some people are saying this is why the game isn't coming out on the PS3, which I think is... not entirely right.

For those of you who want to find out more... he intends to talk more about this at the Tokyo Game Show. This makes me sad, as I can't go.

Next is the animation part.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 04, 2010, 05:07:53 am
Stuff from the animation chapter.

12:00 - He's going to show braids, long hair, and how to make things not clip into each other.

13:30 - Not doing anything to the braid, it's stiff like wax were applied to it. Pretty easy to see.

14:20 - From top: Make the model and skin it [translator: I guess this means texture it]. Move the joints placed in the hair. (Green) Position before [translator: at -1 frame]. (Blue) Speed, gravity, forces which cause the joints to move back to their original position, etc. (Green) Position after [translator: current frame]. All this just means: every joint in Yayoi's braid here has some amount of tendency to go back to its original position, and is acted on by various forces like their current momentum and gravity (the returning forces mentioned before is actually one of these). Combine all these forces, and you've got your new position for one of these joints. These joints also have other properties to them, like facing (for twisting the hair), but these are ignored for now.

15:50 - (Top) Speed times some resistance (attenuation) factor. (Top green) The joints move by inertia, but speed eventually slows down naturally [literally: speed decays]. (Bottom green) Apply some resistance factor to speed when calculating joint position. Naturally, there must be some constraints to this, since if a joint moves on its own, it might move further away from the next (or previous) joint in the braid, then the braid becomes longer.

16:50 - (Top) The length between joints cannot change, and the base of the braid cannot move. (Bottom) The entire braid is pulled by the movement of the base.

17:50 ~ 20:10 - So, just applying speed and its decay... well, you get it. They put gravity and wind in, and... the feeling of volume is missing. So, they put in some more joints. These joints pull on the braid, though they don't actually fall on the braid (in fact, they're just points in space), and pull it back to its original position. With everything in place, Yayoi's twin tails animate quite well.

21:30 - Just a review of all the points above. (Top) Speed and speed abatement, gravity and wind, braids returning to their original shape. After all these are done, the length between joints is always adjusted to its original length. (Bottom) The important variables are: Speed decay factor, gravity, and the force factor for returning the hair to its original shape. (Bottom right) Tails all done!

22:00 ~ 24:20 - Moving on to long hair! First, hair has many lines of joints. The first movie shown has less than the second, I think. They put have spring forces between joints, to keep them from flying apart from each other. Essentially, you can think of them as a spring: if the connected points get too far apart (here, look at the red lines), they pull each other together, and if they get to close, they push each other apart.

26:10 - (Green) Long hair's done! (Bottom) Even if we're calling it done just by how it moves...

26:30 - Collision with swaying objects. (Top) Hair and skirts bump against the body and legs. (Middle left) Swaying objects use spheres. (Middle right) The body uses cylinders and spheres. For collision detection, a triangle-by-triangle test is incredibly ineffective, so usually they logically bound (encase) sections of the body with a combination of near-form-fitting primitives... simple things like spheres, cylinders, or boxes. These are the objects used for collision, not the actual triangles on the model, which makes it much faster. Note Mami's neck: there's a sphere here containing empty air, but regardless, if something hits the edge of that air, then it's considered to have hit Mami, in which case it bounces off or Mami goes flying.

27:20 - A list of all the types of objects used in collision detection. (Top) A plane, for floors and such. (Middle) Donut ring, for skirt edges and such. (Bottom) Tubes, for tail-like hair and such. Notice each of these is a bunch of objects roughly in the aforementioned shape (a tube can be a combination of spheres and cylinders).

27:40 - From top: How are spheres and cylinders used for collision. Cylinders are used for the body, arms, and legs. Spheres are used for joints. Swaying objects are usually just spheres. He shows these bounding volumes starting from the cylinders, going to the joints, then adding in all the swaying stuff.

29:10 - They couldn't show Iori for some reason, so we get Haruka and Takane. Notice the big cylinder behind Takane: this is there to keep her hair back.

Final slides.
31:20 - (Top) More fluid behavior (in animation).
31:25 - (Top) Additions and removals in flexibility. (Middle) Accessories didn't move around in L4U! (Bottom) Accessories sway around properly in Im@s2.
31:45 - Faster.
32:20 - From top: How swaying objects are processed in Im@s2. Simple movements, simple collisions, still with some great visual expression.

... And that's it. That took quite a bit. Personal opinions to come.

And the programmer, Maezawa Keiichi, would like everyone to remember Sensitive Tooning.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 04, 2010, 06:16:36 pm
Looks complicate and nice, I like it. Do feel good watching iM@S presentation.
Thanks for the vid and summary. q^_^p
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 04, 2010, 07:50:45 pm
Looks complicate and nice, I like it. Do feel good watching iM@S presentation.
Thanks for the vid and summary. q^_^p

Thanks! Worked pretty hard on that. ^^; As far as my own opinions...

Okay, well I honestly thought the animation part was pretty standard. What I thought was interesting is that they put in another set of joints so that braids could snap back to their original position, since I thought you could do that without them. Thinking about it, though, it's probably easier (much easier, thinking about it carefully) to do it with another set of joints. I just gained Exp.

As far as shadowing goes, well... watching the PVs again, there are some times where they don't look consistent either. Also interesting to note: necklaces and such (even small chains on costumes) can sway violently, and they do cast shadows on the idol wearing them... but idols don't cast shadows on themselves. Maybe my eyes were mistaken, but it almost looked as if things like the lapels on costumes and maybe... the fur on Mami's costume moved a bit. The skirts do flutter around maybe a bit loosely, though I found a clipping error somewhere. Also, I'm not sure Azusa Ahoge physics have been implemented. Maybe it just defies physics.

With all that, though... shadowing on the ground. We can all see the little 4-way mini-shadow going on and think... why aren't they better? This is just a theory, but if we could actually see them come from a specific direction, then it might jar with the self-shadows we see (the lighting's done separately from stage lighting). If they were to stick a shadow on ground that coincided with an idol's self-shadow, then switched cameras, the ground shadow's position would abruptly change (remember that self-shadows are dependent on where the camera is). We can just fudge everything by making sure there's a shadow in about every general direction, but then... we get those cheap looking shadows. Even worse, if we stick too many of them on the ground, things look bad.

From here on out, it's speculation time, so whatever I say might be really off (though the same applies to the above). The original Im@s ran on the System 246 board, which was an extension of the PS2 board, from what I understand. I'm going to hazard a guess, then, and say Im@s L4U!, and Im@s360 did not use anything HDR related, since I don't think the PS2 was capable of it. Now, we're seeing some effects using HDR, so there might be more shininess in the new version. Either way, the amount of new stuff they're doing in Im@s2 might be a direct consequence of finally being free of the old System 246 board. The 360 was always capable of this stuff, but if it wasn't in the original Im@s, then I'm betting it's because it was hard to fit new stuff on the old stuff.

The comments about it not going to PS3, well, I can see why it's not at the moment since I think some stuff might be XBox360 specific, but weirder things have happened with ports (see Bayonetta, except give a year to port). I'm not too experienced with these things, but there were some comments about RAM being an issue, but I think the PS3 has the same amount of RAM the XBox360 does (both graphics processors can access 512 MB, the PS3 is slower with it, though). Once again: no reason Im@s2 can't come out for PS3, it can definitely handle whatever Im@s2 can throw at it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 04, 2010, 08:12:40 pm
What Yayoi has are considered "braids"?

(also, did anyone else think she looked cute with the pigtails in that position where they hang lower than normal? :3)

Thanks for the summary :) It's interesting to see in detail what's going on (since I watched it prior to this). I think even the smallest details they changed and added really shine (at least, via the PVs we've seen thus far).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 06, 2010, 02:44:03 pm
In a nutshell, what you need to know about the toon shading part from the CEDEC presentation.

- Sensitive Toon.
- Hibiki is Maezawa-san's waifu.

Dunno how many times Maezawa stated Hibiki as his wife.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 08, 2010, 11:22:34 am
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/spoiler.jpg

Will let you guys figure what this implies. I've already solidified my theories.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 08, 2010, 01:45:34 pm
Oooh~ The Cute & Girly outfits~ Guess this means that the ones we've seen are the Coll & Sexy...

 Anyway, I absolutely love Takane's, and Hibiki's looks cool. Yukiho's looks... weird to me. *Shrugs* Haruka's looks slightly like Ai's that one doujin character's... Miki's looks nice, though.

 What's with the costumes in the upper left?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 08, 2010, 02:14:20 pm
More clear:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/spoiler2.jpg

In a nutshell:

Ritsuko will be a producer, producing the trio unit "Ryugukomachi" which consists of Ami, Iori and Azusa.
They'll be handled as rival units.

It also states that "it's possible to have the four on stage as guests", hinting that the four cannot be produced as your idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 08, 2010, 02:48:42 pm
In a nutshell:
Ritsuko will be a producer, producing the trio unit "Ryugukomachi" which consists of Ami, Iori and Azusa.
They'll be handled as rival units.
For real!? Ric-chan you traitor! Give me back my Ami! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 08, 2010, 02:51:11 pm
More clear:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/spoiler2.jpg

In a nutshell:

Ritsuko will be a producer, producing the trio unit "Ryugukomachi" which consists of Ami, Iori and Azusa.
They'll be handled as rival units.

It also states that "it's possible to have the four on stage as guests", hinting that the four cannot be produced as your idols.

...F**k, that's depressing to hear.

Kyo is now a very sad camper.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 08, 2010, 04:30:17 pm
More clear:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/spoiler2.jpg

In a nutshell:

Ritsuko will be a producer, producing the trio unit "Ryugukomachi" which consists of Ami, Iori and Azusa.
They'll be handled as rival units.

It also states that "it's possible to have the four on stage as guests", hinting that the four cannot be produced as your idols.
So there really isn't Ami and Mami on the stage at the same time! That's sad. :c

I guess the only positive is that the "rival" costumes look pretty awesome....wait a sec.

Ritsuko and Ami are in this screenshot. On stage, in normal Cute-and-Girly costumes: http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z288/niwatorimeat/spoiler2.jpg
With produce-able idols...so maybe they aren't entirely off limits.

Anyway, as for the cute-and-girly costumes...they aren't as good as I expected, though not horrible. I think they'd look better in some different colors (i.e. Snow Strawberry? Wonder what happened to that).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 08, 2010, 04:52:28 pm
My thoughts? Ami, Azusa, Ritsuko and Iori are unlockable characters.

The other idols we got are:

Miki
Takane
Hibiki
Haruka
Chihaya
Yukiho
Yayoi
Mami

aka:
961 Pro
765 Pro main characters
2 Lolicons

Note that we have 8 idols to use and theirs 4 'other' idols.
Perhaps every 2 has the ability to unlock one through the story?
Mami + Yayoi = Ami? for example

Its not much different to the PSP version where we had to unlock Miki, Hibiki and Takane.

Just checked the PV's also.
They never once refer to you as their producer.
Ritsuko says she'll help you ( sounds more like a friend then a rival? rofl )
Azusa calls you an idol?
Ami refers to Mami, so their appears to be some connection between them storyline wise.
and Iori is just ordering you around...so nothings changed.

Iori is in the middle too, making her the leader! XD

Edit: just read through the characters pages on the wiki again

In my opinion:

Unlocking Azusa:
Chihaya storyline - They're best friends

Unlocking Ami:
Mami storyline - siblings

Unlocking Iori:
Miki storyline - Rivals
or
Takane storyline - Finds Iori amusing

Unlocking Ritsuko:
Unlock all 3 of her idols

OR

they will pull the Dream C Club approach,

You can unlock them in game
OR
Buy them as DLC
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 08, 2010, 05:21:49 pm
But what would be the individual idol storylines with a minimum of 3-idol units? Having that character as the leader...?

Well, either way...they have to be useable. They were in the PVs dancing, all have the cute-and-girly costumes...If they had made those 4 entirely unusable, I wouldn't know what to think.

Wonder why it was those 3 (Ritsuko wanted to work in the office/be a producer rather than an idol anyway, didn't she?). I would think they'd just take some idols out of the group of whichever you weren't using and make a random CPU unit-thing...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 08, 2010, 07:43:51 pm
Ritsuko will be a producer, producing the trio unit "Ryugukomachi" which consists of Ami, Iori and Azusa.
They'll be handled as rival units.

My mood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_3XRtXM-GU

Onee-san... onee-san... KAESEEEEEEEEE!!

... Wait, does this mean that you interact with them all no matter who you're producing? That... actually kinda sounds good. But... I want to produce... Azusa...

Two theories: unlockable Ryuuguu Komachi scenario, with all four.

Or, there's that suspicious looking Kuroi-shachou in the corner... so, let's see. You can only choose three idols to start with, and that's it, no matter what your producer rank is. Later, Kuroi-shachou does some underhanded stuff, and to beat him, you pick two Ryuuguu Komachi idols to join you for a five-person idol team. Unity is strength, right?

Also, Jimusho mode. And here I was wondering why we didn't see those four in the first PV, it all makes sense.

There'll be an announcement at TGS. That's 16-19 September (next week), so... keep your ears open.

... And just wondering, you got a better scan of the second page?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on September 08, 2010, 08:40:04 pm
Ritsuko will be a producer, producing the trio unit "Ryugukomachi" which consists of Ami, Iori and Azusa.
They'll be handled as rival units.

It also states that "it's possible to have the four on stage as guests", hinting that the four cannot be produced as your idols.

That's really depressing... I think I'm gonna go cry now D=
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 08, 2010, 09:25:21 pm
Even with Ami, Iori, and Azusa in the rival group (with Ritsuko as Producer), I don't think NBGI would really take them out entirely as a possibility of producing.

If they were going to, they wouldn't have showed us them on stage with the idols we CAN produce, nor would Ami and Ritsuko be with the other idols in the screenshot on the page. Like swiftnissity said, they're probably unlockable or something.

I wouldn't jump the gun and say they can't be produced at all, yet. After all, that's really denying all fans of Iori, Azusa, and Ritsuko (and, I suppose they can cover a bit by having one Futami twin playable, but using Mami just to replace Ami seems a bit...wrong XD).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 08, 2010, 09:29:46 pm
Oh God, please make them unlockable characters.  :-[

...There'll be an announcement at TGS. That's 16-19 September (next week), so... keep your ears open.

... And just wondering, you got a better scan of the second page?

Here's the scan: http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/Spoiler2_scan.jpg (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/Spoiler2_scan.jpg)

Test-play at TGS and announcement from Kuroi on 9/18 TGS iM@S2 event.  :P


Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 08, 2010, 09:38:02 pm
They should be unlockable characters. They were on stage in the 2nd pv so I think Ami, Azusa, Ritsuko, and Iori will be unlockable characters.  ;)

Here's the scan: http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/Spoiler2_scan.jpg (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/Spoiler2_scan.jpg)

I like their costumes at the bottom of the scan! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 08, 2010, 11:49:42 pm
Oh darn it nowano~

Why'd you have to go and spoil the fun~!

Seems all my preparations have been for naught! Something as glorious as my announcement should have been kept in secret up until the very second it was unveiled!

Unbelievable!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 09, 2010, 12:05:31 am
I love the new costumes. They look like elven princesses. Also, 961 is back? 765 has enough idols as it is.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on September 09, 2010, 12:07:27 am
Azusa is non-producable?

This better be a troll. :'(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 09, 2010, 12:33:18 am
Well, that's just weird, if you ask me. A weird change, anyway. And I don't like the non-producible four idols thing...

... I find especially weird because I'd already decided that, if I were to have the game, I'd pick Takane, Ritsuko, and either Chihaya or Hibiki... Or both, preferably...

 
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 09, 2010, 12:58:26 am
Well that's slightly depressing!

I really dislike these new "cute and girly" costumes they're really odd...they kinda remind me of the Dearly Stars costumes a bit.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on September 09, 2010, 01:38:06 am
Another rival company? Well, it is what Ritsuko always wanted...

The rival costumes look cool. They remind me of that last DLC costume for the SP series. The cute & girly costumes remind me of fairies.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 09, 2010, 01:54:33 am
I really dislike these new "cute and girly" costumes they're really odd...they kinda remind me of the Dearly Stars costumes a bit.
Now that you mention it, they do look a bit like the DS costumes...I swear I think I'd like them more presented in different colors. I think the yellow and green looks odd. I do like the costumes for the "rival" unit, though. They're kinda flashy but super colorful~ (also, I'm biased toward the color purple :P)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 09, 2010, 02:05:23 am
Azusa is non-producable?

This better be a troll. :'(

Sorry to say, but this looks believable. To me, at least.

http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/im2/

Check silhouettes, and actual costumes (or lack of costume). Again, with the PVs, I also found it odd that Azusa, Iori, Ritsuko, or Ami never call you producer or give any indication that they're being produced by you. In fact, Azusa wished you luck in bringing up your idols... but I reasoned that could be what she says if you pick her but not main her. I just didn't think they'd not make them producable.

EDIT: Watched the PVs instead of doing things from memory, Ritsuko only introduces herself to you, saying dropping titles is just fine when addressing her.

961 idols? I'm not sure... having 16 idols minimum running around seems... ambitious? But Kuroi's gonna be around, unless this is a fake. I doubt it...

But on the other side, anyone up for more Weiss Schwarz cards?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 09, 2010, 02:07:57 am
I think the new costumes look good, Yukiho's is cute and I think it suits her.
As for the playability of the idols, I think the unplayable ones are most likely unlockable, it would be too risky on their existing fan base to pull them out.
Hopefully we'll know more after that upcoming announcement.
Whats that magazine btw? I was hoping to catch G's if/when they do Imas2. I love that mag, even tho I cant read it, all the images are big a lovely.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 09, 2010, 02:28:42 am
Sorry to say, but this looks believable. To me, at least.

http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/im2/

Check silhouettes, and actual costumes (or lack of costume). Again, with the PVs, I also found it odd that Azusa, Iori, Ritsuko, or Ami never call you producer or give any indication that they're being produced by you. In fact, Azusa wished you luck in bringing up your idols, and Ritsuko said she'd support you... but I reasoned that those could be what they say if you pick them but not main them. I just didn't think they'd not make them producable.


(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n143/Azure_83/1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 09, 2010, 04:12:45 am
I (and tons of other producers) vented on Twitter yesterday so I won't bring any of the negativity here.

On the bright side, I'm surprised Im@s 2 will be playable in TGS. Very surprised.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 09, 2010, 04:17:05 am
No need to vent. Aside from this not being on the PS3 as well, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this game. Nope. Didn't even like Azusa.

It also seemed like they were very far into production, and since this comes out in a mere......5 months, a small demo should be available.

Speaking of which, if a demo is available at TGS, it might even get thrown into XBOX Live later on.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: mastersteve89 on September 09, 2010, 04:41:57 am
Azusa is non-producable?

This better be a troll. :'(

Sigh..... :-\

I'm not gonna cry about this....

*sniff*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 09, 2010, 05:24:42 am
But what would be the individual idol storylines with a minimum of 3-idol units? Having that character as the leader...?

Well, either way...they have to be useable. They were in the PVs dancing, all have the cute-and-girly costumes...If they had made those 4 entirely unusable, I wouldn't know what to think.

Wonder why it was those 3 (Ritsuko wanted to work in the office/be a producer rather than an idol anyway, didn't she?). I would think they'd just take some idols out of the group of whichever you weren't using and make a random CPU unit-thing...

In the PVs we can see some scenes with just 1 idol, so theirs some solo interaction/storylines there.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 09, 2010, 06:13:07 am
Little iM@S2 convo regarding the news
it starts with:
so Iori Azusa and Ritsuko wont be producable in the next game
then
http://pastebin.com/ndDX66cW
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 09, 2010, 07:07:26 am
...Seems all my preparations have been for naught! Something as glorious as my announcement should have been kept in secret up until the very second it was unveiled!

Unbelievable!
You've gave some hints (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/Kuroi_Birthday.jpg) already anyway.  :P

...Whats that magazine btw? I was hoping to catch G's if/when they do Imas2. I love that mag, even tho I cant read it, all the images are big a lovely.
Famitsu.  :)

Sorry to say, but this looks believable. To me, at least.

http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/im2/

Check silhouettes, and actual costumes (or lack of costume). Again, with the PVs, I also found it odd that Azusa, Iori, Ritsuko, or Ami never call you producer or give any indication that they're being produced by you. In fact, Azusa wished you luck in bringing up your idols... but I reasoned that could be what she says if you pick her but not main her. I just didn't think they'd not make them producable.

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imas2_silhouettes.jpg)

Picture drop.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/o0552144610737784741.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/o0800110510737781193.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 09, 2010, 12:47:05 pm
Iori wont be producable in the next game
My hopes just plummeted.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 09, 2010, 04:46:46 pm
NGBI is going to broadcast the iM@S2 TGS event on  USTREAM (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nbgi-live-channel) ;)
9/18 13:15~14:00 (Japan time)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 09, 2010, 08:00:02 pm
http://ameblo.jp/project-imas/entry-10643118443.html

New PV, too. Guess it makes sense, if there's a playable, but dang, that was much faster than I thought. They're also selling stuff.

Ryuuguu Komachi's new hit single is SMOKY THRILL. You'll see it in the PV.

Participating in the NBGI event: Asakura Asami (Yukiho), Numakura Manami (Hibiki), Hara Yumi (Takane), Shimoda Asami (Ami/Mami), Wakabayashi Naomi (Ritsuko), Sakagami Youzou (the game's producer), others. You'll need tickets to get in, check the official site or blog for details today.

... And I think I'm going to speculate and say that Kuroi is going to threaten to buy out 765, and the only way to avoid this fate is to take a unit and bring them all the way to the top.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 10, 2010, 02:39:57 am
No need to vent. Aside from this not being on the PS3 as well, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this game.

I'm with Scotty on this one actually.  While not being able to produce Ritsuko, Ami, Azusa, and Iori is slightly depressing, it's still looks like a good game.  I'm actually excited to see what Ritsuko can dish out against your (our?) group of girls or something.

And then cry after I lose, but that's far beyond the point.

I hope to catch the TGS event, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO ANNOUNCE KUROI?!?

Hope they do release the demo on the market place, I'll be sure to try it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on September 10, 2010, 05:41:36 am
I think the new costumes look good, Yukiho's is cute and I think it suits her.
I can agree with that. As for Ritsuko and her rivals it should make for interesting dialogue between the idols and the producer.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on September 10, 2010, 02:22:49 pm
Though things look as concrete as they are (with said 4 idols being unproduceable and all), I'm still to wait for that TGS event. A lot could go wrong if speculation went around so fast, people might mistake it for the truth. After all, there are a lot of people who love them, so I believe namco would make a pretty bad move not to even put them as unlockables.

Anyway, Ritsuko and her idols, huh? Basing with what we know so far, Ritsuko is probably a producer for 765 and hence, your in-company rival (Oh God, the ideas coming out of that). Making further speculations with what could happen........*silence, then stares at 961 with determined eyes*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 10, 2010, 02:49:14 pm
Anyway, Ritsuko and her idols, huh? Basing with what we know so far, Ritsuko is probably a producer for 765 and hence, your in-company rival (Oh God, the ideas coming out of that). Making further speculations with what could happen........*silence, then stares at 961 with determined eyes*
................... :'(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 10, 2010, 02:56:14 pm
Just a thought, but what if Kuroi is acting in the background, in a sense.

Ritsuko and the idols think what they are doing is right but Kuroi is either:

A) blackmailing them

B) tricking them

somehow.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 10, 2010, 03:09:49 pm
Or maybe we'll randomly see Eri, Ai, and Ryo again with Kuroi

I vote C) Both A and B
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on September 10, 2010, 05:37:04 pm
All this speculation is killing me. *begins staring at 961 with determined eyes* What are you guys planning?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 10, 2010, 05:55:31 pm
Only the absolute best can come out of 961Pro!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Chief Rampancy on September 10, 2010, 11:03:56 pm
They wouldn't make a sequel that brings down the number of idols. That's like making a new Super Smash Bros game with fewer characters. Hopefully, they will make them unlockable in some way, or they would bring in new unveiled idols. Most likely the former, but I wouldn't doubt the latter either.

But there's some things I'd still like to know. Like if your still able to get Awakened Miki or not.
And whatever happened to Kotori? That's one thing I've been waiting for info on.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 10, 2010, 11:50:48 pm
And then cry after I lose, but that's far beyond the point.

That's okay for me, Azusa will be the one who beats me!

... *sigh* The Ryukishidan can't be the Ryukishidan without Azusa. I'll have to come up with another name. Minarai Senshi? The Geomancers?

... Ankokukishidan? Wait, there's an idea...

Come to think of it... trio unit minus two non-leaders, plus the four from Ryuuguu Komachi equals five idols. Hmm...

And also... I wonder what everyone thought about SP when they found out they couldn't produce Miki? I mean, it's taking one idol of ten, not four from thirteen, but still...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 11, 2010, 12:03:13 am
SP wasn't your average game though. 3 versions splitting idols and each one having an exclusive rival, all somewhat solved by Office Mode. Sure, you couldn't produce Miki, but maybe it was in order to balance all 3 versions. Maybe it had to do with Miki being Xbox 360 exclusive. Dunno what that exclusivity meant, if produce only or whatnot. But yeah, can't compare SP with a console game. Same way you can't compare this sequel with the rest, since it's not following past story lines.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 11, 2010, 02:34:27 am
They wouldn't make a sequel that brings down the number of idols. That's like making a new Super Smash Bros game with fewer characters. Hopefully, they will make them unlockable in some way, or they would bring in new unveiled idols. Most likely the former, but I wouldn't doubt the latter either.

But there's some things I'd still like to know. Like if your still able to get Awakened Miki or not.
And whatever happened to Kotori? That's one thing I've been waiting for info on.

She's pictured on the CD's, so she's still here somewhere
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/COCX-36509hiraki.jpg)

and as for SP, from what I remember, people were pissed at first but the fact that it could be played worldwide made up for it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 11, 2010, 04:39:45 am
NGBI is going to broadcast the iM@S2 TGS event on  USTREAM (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nbgi-live-channel) ;)
9/18 13:15~14:00 (Japan time)

Anyone going to try to record it? Maybe it will appear on youtube later or something.

And did I see that they are selling 765 pro cookies? I wonder if there in different shapes of the idols or different flavours or something...

Can't wait for new PV, although it might be the same stuff as 1 and 2 again.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 11, 2010, 04:41:10 am
Can't wait for new PV, although it might be the same stuff as 1 and 2 again.
Hopefully not too much of the same stuff. We should see "SMOKY THRILL", Ritsuko's unit's song.
(info a la Cael K. a few posts up XD)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on September 11, 2010, 07:02:10 am
Ritsuko not being playable makes me sad and makes me wonder who I will produce now...  Most likely Takane for leader of the group...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 11, 2010, 07:20:23 am
Ritsuko not being playable makes me sad.
I agree.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 11, 2010, 07:26:19 am
I wonder what the song "SMOKY THRILL" is going to be about...
I only just now considered the possibilities of that title...I do not disapprove!  ;)

Do Ritsuko and Azusa have the same bodyart/tattoo in the COOL&SEXY outfit?
They look really similar but I can't quite make it out.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 11, 2010, 08:24:34 pm
They wouldn't make a sequel that brings down the number of idols. That's like making a new Super Smash Bros game with fewer characters. Hopefully, they will make them unlockable in some way, or they would bring in new unveiled idols. Most likely the former, but I wouldn't doubt the latter either.

But there's some things I'd still like to know. Like if your still able to get Awakened Miki or not.
And whatever happened to Kotori? That's one thing I've been waiting for info on.

you read my mind, I hope this would happend. have logic with the super smash bros example.
I just hope this happend, still sad if the rivals wont be unlockable :(

agree with the yukiho's costume comment, it fits her perfectly.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 11, 2010, 08:26:08 pm
No one should be assuming absolutely anything if we're this close to getting some new info.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 11, 2010, 10:53:11 pm
No one should be assuming absolutely anything if we're this close to getting some new info.

But at the same time, if they say you can't produce those four, then I'm totally at the point where I won't be shocked. The article I think may have been to prepare people for possible disappointment as well, so that the announcement at TGS wouldn't be totally unexpected and filled with otaku rage or something. At least, that's what it did for me.

A friend mentioned this to me, but I wonder how Free Produce would work? I mean, everyone but your leader just being silent except for Promotions... doesn't feel like a step up, but I suppose could happen. But then... you'd have to have Promotions for Ryuuguu Komachi idols (with the accompanying voice work) if you could only produce them there. That doesn't sound promising.

Heck, maybe Kuroi is holding 876 hostage, for all we know.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: AnimeAnnika1025 on September 12, 2010, 12:08:09 am
That's really depressing... I think I'm gonna go cry now D=

I agree there its heartbreaking  :'(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 12, 2010, 12:08:25 am
Someone might have posted this already
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/09033234.html
but here it is again I guess.

you can see in one of the screenshots it looks like they're pretending to smoke...or something.
also azusa, ami, and iori in the green/yellow outfits.

and I think azusa is dancing the nyanroll.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 12, 2010, 12:14:42 am
Well....the Japanese do smoke like crazy...

Can't say I like that image at all. I don't like seeing Iori and Ami like that =3=;;;

Azusa can do as she pleases though. Don't care about her dumb actions.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 12, 2010, 12:31:41 am
How come the yellow outfits are terrible but the purple ones are beautiful? D:
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 12, 2010, 12:35:06 am
How come the yellow outfits are terrible but the purple ones are beautiful? D:
Maybe the other colors are more attractive. I just made up a little Im@s 2 desktop in photoshop, so I'll do a recolor for fun to see if they look better.


and they don't.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 12, 2010, 02:31:17 am
At least the (still) views of the dances look promising. Iori's cute-and-girly looks like it's missing some elements...

and, maybe I shouldn't be, but I'm a bit surprised with the screenshot where they're pretending to smoke o.o Especially since Iori and Ami are young...13 and 15 XD Wouldn't have figured "smoky thrill" was literal. *shot*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 12, 2010, 03:45:40 am
Smoking idols?!?! It's Ai Kago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_Kago#Scandals) and the Onyanko Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onyanko_club#Sh.C5.ABkan_Bunshun_Smoking_Scandal) scandal all over again.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 12, 2010, 04:29:16 am
They could be pretending to hold bubble pipes, for all you know.

Or that action where chefs kiss their fingers while going, "C'est magnifique!" or things like that.

And did I see that they are selling 765 pro cookies? I wonder if there in different shapes of the idols or different flavours or something...

They're probably shaped as the 765 logo. Can't imagine fans wanting to bite the limbs off their favourite idols.

765 fans, however, are encouraged to bake Kuroi-shaped cookies for fun-filled nomming.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 12, 2010, 04:46:09 am
Because of this screenshot does this confirm that Iori is producable?(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5383/fueobt972etmbmgawh2y3h8.jpg) (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/fueobt972etmbmgawh2y3h8.jpg/)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 12, 2010, 04:58:34 am
Literally, the article used the actual English word guest when describing how they'd pop up on stage (after certain conditions have been fulfilled). Don't forget you could put Takane and Hibiki on stage in SP, but you couldn't produce them. I'm pretty sure you could change their outfits too.

I'd wait until next Saturday. Not everything'll be revealed, but we'll still get some information.

765 fans, however, are encouraged to bake Kuroi-shaped cookies for fun-filled nomming.

I don't care what type of cookies they are, I'm sure they'd taste like poison.

Personally, it look like Ami's taking down a Pixy Stick.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 12, 2010, 10:55:47 am
So the free concert mode like L4U is available it seems. And I can put any idols, including Ami Iori Azusa and Ritsuko, on the free concert stage. Looks fine for me then. ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 12, 2010, 05:20:42 pm
Maybe they have a Story Mode / Free Produce thing like in SP, as well.

But at least we -do- know there's a method to get the "unplayable" idols on stage ;) And if there is a Free-Produce where we can still play the actual game with the idols they yanked, that's even better XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 16, 2010, 08:16:54 am
Question: someone posted this already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smyOBmWzaFM

Question: Someone have link for that in the awesome quality nowano's links have? :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 16, 2010, 08:22:39 am
TGS demo screens: http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2010/09/16/idolmaster_2_tgs_demo_screens/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 16, 2010, 09:45:35 am
First thing I thought of after watching the 3rd and 4th trailer:
Wow, Takagai2 sounds young.

ps. 765 Pro's website has gone through a major revamp too.
http://765pro.jp/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on September 16, 2010, 11:44:41 am
First thing I thought of after watching the 3rd and 4th trailer:
Wow, Takagai2 sounds young.

ps. 765 Pro's website has gone through a major revamp too.
http://765pro.jp/

i thought this too. also, this game is looking smooth.its like they all learned how to dance lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 16, 2010, 12:34:23 pm
Takagi Junjiro (the new shachou) is the cousin of Junichiro, and got the position after having an offer.
He's voiced by Otsuka Hochu.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 16, 2010, 12:40:18 pm
Just realised
something we've overlooked...

The rivals are shown dancing...that's actually new to Idolm@ster. Whether its situational ( watch them to see what your up against? ) its possible that if you lose to them you see them dance or something?

Also, anyone think they'll do 'Smoky Thrill' as DLC?

I get the feeling the first wave of DLC will be similar to Dream C Club, what this means is: You can unlock it in the game, but for impatient people and such you can get them instantly for no work.

I get the feeling the first pack will be:
Song: Smoky Thrill
Unlock: Azusa
Unlock: Iori
Unlock: Ami

With the 'unlock' including that characters specific outfit.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 16, 2010, 01:02:06 pm
According to the play reports on Dengeki Online, you get to watch SMOKY THRILL when you lose in the festa, while you see The world is all one! when you win.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 16, 2010, 03:23:42 pm
Well, that was interesting to say the least.

Don't know if I like either of those dances.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 16, 2010, 03:32:54 pm
Err..., I don't quite impress with both new songs. I prefer the old dance for "THE IDOLM@STER" song. But I do love the graphic.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 16, 2010, 04:07:22 pm
Is there a new choreographer? I'm loving the new dances.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 16, 2010, 04:12:05 pm
The new dances look a lot more...animated and alive, I think (maybe it's the updated graphics?) but I like them (though I think some parts of the iDOLM@STER 2nd Mix will take getting used to. XD)

and, I hope they don't do Smoky Thrill as DLC only...at least give it to us in the L4U/Office Mode, NBGI :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 16, 2010, 04:17:42 pm
Apologies are in order. The 961Pro website is still taking a bit longer to finish than originally thought. It's just too good.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 16, 2010, 04:47:01 pm
So, this.
(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx350/TweenDoriru/x2132425986_view.jpg)
Auditions?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Azusa_Miura on September 16, 2010, 08:50:27 pm
The new dances are cute, but I don't know if I'd bother learning them...

Smoky Thrill was totally different from what I was hoping for. I wanted something a little more 'Smoky' and a lot less 'Thrill' but oh well. At least it was still good.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 16, 2010, 09:02:18 pm
So, this.
Auditions?

Looking at that closely...  "Voltage" and "score" thats what L4U had in the rhythm game isnt it? I assume Risng Moon is another new song.

Also anyone notice how the lables that popup for the songs looked very different than in the first 2 PVs?

Also notice how halfway down this (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/im2/) page where it has the small pics for the idols theres the 765 logo and another new one? Whats that about and why is it next forehead-chan?

As for the songs, I liked the idolmaster 2nd mix, its nice with 5 idols. I wasn't too impressed with Smoky Thril, but will wait for a translation before I say any more.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 16, 2010, 09:20:04 pm
Also notice how halfway down this (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/im2/) page where it has the small pics for the idols theres the 765 logo and another new one? Whats that about and why is it next forehead-chan?
I know the 765 logo with the other logo underneath it is Ritsuko's unit's logo (I can't remember for the life of me how it's romanized or how to pronounce it).

edit: also, after poking around a bit, I've come to the (possible) conclusion that "Rising Moon" is the name of one of the auditions...or rather, a "festival"?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 16, 2010, 09:26:33 pm
the new choreographys filled me with joy and ecstasy...
also I love takane's costume, I didnt examinate it till I watched her in the video.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 16, 2010, 10:17:27 pm
Smoky Thrill, curious dance. I felt the idols were going freestyle in some parts
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on September 16, 2010, 10:24:57 pm
THE iDOLM@STER 2nd Mix's dance looked a bit funky. I really loved Smoky Thrill's dance, though.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 16, 2010, 10:55:15 pm
The choreography of THE IDOLM@STER 2nd mix reminds me a little of Perfume and Smoky Thrill sounds like the songs 876Pro did. I love it all.

Apologies are in order. The 961Pro website is still taking a bit longer to finish than originally thought. It's just too good.
I guess it's because nobody cares about 961 since Hibiki, Takane, and Miki left for 765Pro.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 16, 2010, 11:56:02 pm
Takane~ I really love her Cute&Girly outfit, and I've gotten used to her Cool&Sexy one, as well. I'm curious what the next outfits will look like.

 ... And I really like Smoky Thrill, to be honest, though it looked like the dance placed more emphasis on the leader than I thought it would... And I was never a big fan of the original song "The Idolmaster", but I think the dance looked nice. ^_^

 ... And again, TAKANE~ That's probably not a healthy attraction to a fictional character...

 Wait a second... I'm the same age as Iori!?! /just noticed XD

 
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 17, 2010, 12:01:02 am
I guess it's because nobody cares about 961 since Hibiki, Takane, and Miki left for 765Pro.
Since they left, as far as we can tell, 961 has no idols XD Though didn't someone post a "what if" that entailed Ai, Eri, and Ryo becoming the new 961 idols? Unlikely, but wouldn't that be funny :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 17, 2010, 01:06:50 am
that possible audition screen thing is really really weird. in the original xbox 360 version there was a lot to look at all at once, and now the screen feels naked. It's pretty though.  :P

I really really really want to see something exciting happen with 961!


Also, Kotori's picture in the new graphics is very cute ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 17, 2010, 01:48:20 am
Smoky Thrill = FROTHING DEMAND

Man, it looks really natural, I like it. Got a nice beat, great dynamic dance.

Idolmaster 2nd Mix, though... seemed kinda still. Not a lot going on. I keep thinking, "Move! You've got an entire stage to do it with!"

Excerpts from the main page:

Quote from: http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/im2/
5人ステージなら「プロデュース中のユニット以外の6人のアイドル」に加え、
「律子P&竜宮小町の三人」の中から2人を選抜して共演も可能!

めざすは「国民的アイドルユニット」プロデュース!
三人一組のユニットを結成。全国ランキング駆け上がれ!

For a 5-idol stage, you can select two idols from the six you're not producing, as well as Ritsuko and the three Ryuuguu Komachi idols to perform together!

Aim to produce the nation's most popular idol!
Make a unit from three idols, and tear your way through the ranking charts!

You can only choose three idols to start with, and that's it, no matter what your producer rank is. [snip] you pick two Ryuuguu Komachi idols to join you for a five-person idol team. Unity is strength, right?

... feeling good right now. Really good. ^^

I realize it's not in stone yet, but I think it's looking good.

Oh yeah...

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/16033451.html
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 17, 2010, 01:52:32 am
 Hey Cael, now that the site is updated, can you translate what the little excerpts under the character bios say? Specifically Takane's? 83
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 17, 2010, 02:28:44 am
Hey Cael, now that the site is updated, can you translate what the little excerpts under the character bios say? Specifically Takane's? 83

seconding this request... Specifically Takane's? 83 too....

btw, thanks man for all the translations, I mean google translator makes everything I read have no sense at all...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 17, 2010, 02:39:07 am
Oh man, both of you? Well alright, I'll do Takane's. ^^

Well, it's a self-introduction, so I've gotta get her character right too. I'll still take a crack at it. Fair warning: this isn't completely literal, since those translations feel very stiff and forced.

A well-mannered, noble princess? Her true colors are all a mystery!

I want to see for myself, what sort of scenery I can see from the heights I've been aspiring toward.

At the moment, I have reached a stand still.
Whatever happens, I wish to know what I can see from on high. However, as shameful as it is to admit, I don't believe anything can come from this by my own. If you would, I'd kindly ask for your assistance.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 17, 2010, 02:43:49 am
Thanks a lot man, this will come handy for a certain something im working on.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 17, 2010, 03:20:40 am
For a 5-idol stage, you can select two idols from the six you're not producing, as well as Ritsuko and the three Ryuuguu Komachi idols to perform together!
So...you can add 2 more idols to Ryuuguu Komachi? I wonder if they get the neat costumes, too...:D Though, if you only get to watch them perform when you lose an audition/festival, that's kind of a bummer :\
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/16033451.html
I spy a slightly better picture of Ritsuko's yellow-and-green outfit...still don't like the colors, but do like the design! :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 17, 2010, 03:29:23 am
So...you can add 2 more idols to Ryuuguu Komachi? I wonder if they get the neat costumes, too...:D Though, if you only get to watch them perform when you lose an audition/festival, that's kind of a bummer :\

Eeeh, you can have 2 more idols perform with your unit as guests, but you can take them from Ryuuguu Komachi or the 6 you're not producing. Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear on that.

You know, that logo and Ryuuguu Komachi stamp look really ugly where they are. It's like they don't belong there. And why is it that the amount of empty space at the bottom of the character bios page alternate between no additional space, one additional space, and two additional spaces? I'm wondering exactly how ambitious they're being here, but there's always room for more NPCs...

... but you still gotta have a song for idol NPCs. Right? I was doubting this before, and I still am, but... something just bugs me.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 17, 2010, 04:10:19 am
Oh man, both of you? Well alright, I'll do Takane's. ^^

Well, it's a self-introduction, so I've gotta get her character right too. I'll still take a crack at it. Fair warning: this isn't completely literal, since those translations feel very stiff and forced.

A well-mannered, noble princess? Her true colors are all a mystery!

I want to see for myself, what sort of scenery I can see from the heights I've been aspiring toward.

At the moment, I have reached a stand still.
Whatever happens, I wish to know what I can see from on high. However, as shameful as it is to admit, I don't believe anything can come from this by my own. If you would, I'd kindly ask for your assistance.


 I'll assist you, Ohime-Sama~ <3 I-I mean, Shijou-san... A-And, only if you want me to... >.<

 Thanks for the translation. ^_^ /Just wanted to hear more from Takane

 Idol NPC's?

 And I would like to see if 4 idols is even possible... Odd as it might look for The World is All One, maybe the quartet version accounted for that or something? I dunno... /just wants to see a four person dance, so sue me T-T
 Idol NPC's?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 17, 2010, 05:14:12 am
http://765pro.jp/idol/miki.html

tl is "naturally Awakened Miki with slight traces of her original personality she doesn't seem to like too much"

Wait what?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 17, 2010, 05:50:46 am
>likes nail art

Oh Miki~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on September 17, 2010, 06:06:18 am
Since they left, as far as we can tell, 961 has no idols XD Though didn't someone post a "what if" that entailed Ai, Eri, and Ryo becoming the new 961 idols? Unlikely, but wouldn't that be funny :D

If that was true then it would be taking candy from a baby and Scotty would weep due to having poor idols.

I wished they would have more screenshots of Ritsuko in the cute & girly outfits of both normal and Ryuuguu Komachi.  They are really mainly trying to make her look like a produce than an idol...  But of course in her profile for iDOLM@STER she never thought of herself as idol material and he dreams was too become a manager which is normal for her...

The current screenshot of Ritsuko in the 765 cute & girly seems somewhat what like Yukiho's original, which looks kind of odd.

iDOLM@STER theme seem ok don't like the dance at all but I do like Smoky Thrill alot both song and dance.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 17, 2010, 06:30:06 am
Eeeh, you can have 2 more idols perform with your unit as guests, but you can take them from Ryuuguu Komachi or the 6 you're not producing. Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear on that.
Ohh, I see :o Even so, that's good. So we can still have them on stage in produce/story mode XD I was thinking the former seemed a little odd.
If that was true then it would be taking candy from a baby and Scotty would weep due to having poor idols.
That's why it would be funny XD Irony!

Also, it seems like SMOKY THRILL is pulling an Overmaster. Where the fans want to support their own idol group (Colorful Days/The iDOLM@STER 2nd Mix) but the rival group's song is winning out (Overmaster/SMOKY THRILL). XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 17, 2010, 06:49:34 am
So, this.
(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx350/TweenDoriru/x2132425986_view.jpg)
Auditions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8gwN9sAV4U
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 17, 2010, 07:17:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8gwN9sAV4U
...I need to get a Japanese Xbox 360 badly ;__;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 17, 2010, 08:28:26 am
http://765pro.jp/idol/miki.html

tl is "naturally Awakened Miki with slight traces of her original personality she doesn't seem to like too much"

Wait what?

I... actually don't see that. But then, it looks like Miki wants to give her all to being an idol, so... well, I honestly don't know Awakened Miki that well.

Appeals seem to reset the multipliers to 1.10, and give you auto-points. Bursts seem to double the multiplier, but you can only appeal to what the game tells you to. Thus, the dominant strategy seems to be: milk out each category until they're all worth the same points, when you've got a full bar, Memory Appeal then Burst.

Ech... I hope I'm wrong. If there were some way you could know what appeals the Burst forced you to do, then you could run up those multipliers, but I'm not seeing that. Maybe it has something to do with which idol you have appealing?

And as far as Idol NPCs go... well, it's just a thought in my head, but if there's going to be any conflict that gets anyone pumped... you need someone that's just bad. And I mean, like, evil bad. Kuroi's around, but is it enough with just him? The Festa is all versus, you know. It still could be just him, I suppose, if he runs the machine or something.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 17, 2010, 03:05:22 pm
Well, I suppose you can't doubt Kuroi's plans until they're officially announced.

Like you said, I hope it's something pretty evil.


I have no idea what you're supposed to do during that audition. I'm sure it's easier than I'm making it out to be. I can't see that little instruction thing that pops up before the audition.

I think that "loser" thing might become a micromeme among the fans. I laughed when I saw it!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 17, 2010, 04:01:44 pm
Since they left, as far as we can tell, 961 has no idols XD Though didn't someone post a "what if" that entailed Ai, Eri, and Ryo becoming the new 961 idols? Unlikely, but wouldn't that be funny :D

Well, if you give it more depth, 961Pro probably has more idols than just Miki, Takane, and Hibiki. The same kinda goes both 765Pro and 876Pro too. The story just focused on those particular idols. If I might take a guess, since 961 is going to be in iDOLM@STER 2, Ritsuko and her unit might considering to transfer to 961 and it will be up to you to persuade them to stay with 765.

Also, I was probably the one that asked What if Ai, Eri, and Ryo were going to the new 961 idols?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 17, 2010, 04:52:56 pm
From seeing that video clip it certainly looks more flashy, showing the rival's bursts etc makes it a bit more like your actually competing in the audition. As far as what to do, I don't think its that far off the usual, just hitting the button shown in the centre to make the appeal.

What I find interesting is which idol is doing it, so it appears you can switch idols, so use one for maximum visual impact and another for max vocal - is this new or did the original IM@S do that? (I only have SP so I don't know how it worked with more than 1 idol). Given that the player in the video 'lost' is the the score and status etc on the right the rival's stats?

I can't see anywhere the judges status, like in SP if you appeal to much to one judge they walk out, that doesn't appear to be there, and noting the voltage and score elements, is it more fan/audience orientated like L4U I wonder?

On a slightly different note, it appears you take 3 idols, and you can add in 2 your not producing, which can include Ritsko's idols, therefore if you take 2 of hers, what happens when your auditioning? Do those 2 not support you ? - which would defeat the point of it, or does it mean she has to pick 2 others to go against you?  I'm wondering if there's a potential tactic in that. I only see 3 in the screen-shot however, so maybe this unity is only for the TV performance?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 17, 2010, 05:09:38 pm
I like the new song "Smoky Thrill." I don't know why but for some reason it reminds me a little bit of "Overmaster" from 961 pro.  I was looking at the audition and LOLed at the "loser" sign.  Seeing from Azusa's and Iori's cute and girly costumes posted a few pages back it looks like they might be produceable. 

Also, I was probably the one that asked What if Ai, Eri, and Ryo were going to the new 961 idols?

That will never happen! My Eri would never join forces with that deceptive Kuroi! Just saying! XD

So I see that Miki now likes Nail art. Miki really has changed a lot over the past year! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 17, 2010, 05:32:12 pm
On a slightly different note, it appears you take 3 idols, and you can add in 2 your not producing, which can include Ritsko's idols, therefore if you take 2 of hers, what happens when your auditioning? Do those 2 not support you ? - which would defeat the point of it, or does it mean she has to pick 2 others to go against you?  I'm wondering if there's a potential tactic in that. I only see 3 in the screen-shot however, so maybe this unity is only for the TV performance?
I think they'd just be there after the audition. If they are rivals, helping you during your audition would probably be a "no" XD Though, I don't know if, by all idol-producing rights, going through an audition and then adding people to your performance can be done.

Or how they'd know the dance if they've been with a different producer and song all of this time...or how they'd have matching costumes ready on such short notice...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 17, 2010, 06:37:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8gwN9sAV4U
Iori's Rival Burst of Win.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on September 17, 2010, 07:35:35 pm
New graphics and animation look gorgeous, especially the mechanics during the audition.
too bad they lost to Iori.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 17, 2010, 08:38:33 pm
http://765pro.jp/idol/iori.html

Leader of Ryuugu, has a habit of getting angry, the poutful, small princess!
"I'm the world cutest, super idol! hihihihi"
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 17, 2010, 08:47:20 pm
"I'm the world cutest, super idol! Nihihi~"
fix'd and Yes she is.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 12:17:00 am
So I see that Miki now likes Nail art. Miki really has changed a lot over the past year! XD

Yukiho's taken to blogging and Azusa's taken to wandering around sampling cafes (but we all knew that).

Just a quick glossing over the demo instructions.

(1) Time your appeals to the beat for more points.
(2) Each appeal has a multiplier attached to it, the longer you go without appealing to it, the larger it grows. As you appeal to a category, the multiplier drops. I'm not sure if they all start falling if you keep doing the same one over and over.
(3) Memory Appeals reset the multipliers, and you only have three.
(4) You can Burst Appeal when your Voltage maxes out. Voltage increases with Memory Appeals and Perfect Appeals.

Other notes: the video showed the group having a Lv. 3 Memory appeal. Other reports say that Memory Appealing and Burst Appealing decreases your opponent's Voltage.

EDIT: Found the article again, nothing said about Perfect Appealing decreasing the rate at which your rival gains Voltage. It was Burst Appealing.

I'm kinda wondering how versus is going to be. Right now, it looks like there's just one thing you need to do.

As far as guest characters go, I think they'll pop up on stage with you for the space of one Festa. Obviously, if you're up against Ryuuguu, I don't think you'd be able to have them join you. Otherwise, it's all good.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 12:26:28 am
Yukiho's taken to blogging and Azusa's taken to wandering around sampling cafes (but we all knew that).

Just a quick glossing over the demo instructions.

(1) Time your appeals to the beat for more points.
(2) Each appeal has a multiplier attached to it, the longer you go without appealing to it, the larger it grows. As you appeal to a category, the multiplier drops. I'm not sure if they all start falling if you keep doing the same one over and over.
(3) Memory Appeals reset the multipliers, and you only have three.
(4) You can Burst Appeal when your Voltage maxes out. Voltage increases with Memory Appeals and Perfect Appeals.

Other notes: the video showed the group having a Lv. 3 Memory appeal.

I'm kinda wondering how versus is going to be. Right now, it looks like there's just one thing you need to do.


 That sounds... Well put together, actually. A lot of strategy involved.

 Also... I just realized my dream-team for the game is very easily keyed into rivals for Ryuugu Komachi. I mean, Iori considered Takane a rival in SP, right? And Mami and Ami could easily be put into the sibling rivalry thing... Azusa and Chihaya probably won't acutally play into "rivalry" per se, but I'm sure Chihaya would work harder if she works up to Azusa... /isn't sure how the last two actually relate to each other, XP /Also, is rambling


 On another note, I think it'd be AWESOME if you could pick a few idols to go on stage with Ryuuguu, in their own Ryuuguu-style stage outfits. Just saying, 'cause working only one direction wouldn't be logical. Then again, who said anything about logic...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 02:39:24 am
http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/H/so/115754

竜宮小町 - SMOKY THRILL [CLUB EDIT] :: 1:47/2:53 :: 320 kbps
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 18, 2010, 02:42:33 am
Pretty nice mix there~ 7/10
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 18, 2010, 06:05:30 am
Just to let some people know; the TGS event is just about to start (they started the stream).  Uhh... The link is about a few pages back that nowano posted; but here you guys go. (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nbgi-live-channel)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 18, 2010, 06:14:05 am
4.5k viewers currently. Not bad.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 18, 2010, 06:18:26 am
Just to let some people know; the TGS event is just about to start (they started the stream).  Uhh... The link is about a few pages back that nowano posted; but here you guys go. (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nbgi-live-channel)

I'm watching it right now! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 06:20:08 am
 Also watching it. Takane's CV sang~<3 ^_^ /stating obvious facts that he likes
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 06:23:37 am
Anyone getting the feeling the crowd hasn't worked out a cheer for Smoky Thrill yet? ^^
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 18, 2010, 06:24:41 am
Hahaha I noticed that too. It's a bit hard trying to watch the live stream and BBCS videos on youtube >_>;;

Edit: I expect Kuroi to crash the party like... anytime soon XD

And Ritsuko must be proud of her group.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 06:44:25 am
DARN YOU KUROI!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 06:44:44 am
Picup, your wish came true. XD

Are those... male idols?

HOLY CRAP THEY ARE!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 18, 2010, 06:45:44 am
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD

KUROI I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUU

(is it just me or is jin's voice actor in there)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 18, 2010, 06:46:05 am
Ehhhhhhh Male idols?!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: s8C on September 18, 2010, 06:48:08 am
So Kuroi has moved on to the world of boy bands, huh
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 06:48:59 am
OMG! JUPITER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
iM@S more like iM@NS


Touma was the leader
shouta was the young guy with the fluffy collar
hokuto is the Older Guy with the short blonde hair
shouta 14 / touma 17 / hokuto 20
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 18, 2010, 06:49:46 am
Okay I calmed down now.

...

I just noticed that two of them look like Makoto and Iori guy's side characters.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 06:50:12 am
Who was it who said to not pay too much attention to Kuroi's announcement? XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on September 18, 2010, 06:50:39 am
961 broductions
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on September 18, 2010, 06:50:56 am
oh
my
fucking
god....

male
idols

project
jupiter

CANNOT UNSEE
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 18, 2010, 06:51:15 am
Laughing my ass off, brb.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 06:53:43 am
Alice or Guilty is the title of their song btw
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on September 18, 2010, 06:55:20 am
I think this is the biggest thing that ever happened in IM@S history
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 06:56:47 am
Of course it is, H4!  X3 I just wonder what their names are... >.<
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: s8C on September 18, 2010, 06:57:34 am
Someone should warn those guys that Kuroi likes to sexually harass his idols. 'c'
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 18, 2010, 06:58:05 am
I approve of this move so much, probably more so than Ryugu Komachi.
I knew Kuroi was a genius, jabbing into an untapped niche.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 06:59:01 am
Of course it is, H4!  X3 I just wonder what their names are... >.<

Touma was the leader
shouta was the young guy with the fluffy collar
hokuto is the Older Guy with the short blonde hair
shouta 14 / touma 17 / hokuto 20

I was hoping for Ryou as 3rd member of Jupiter ;.;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 18, 2010, 07:00:20 am
The 961Pro website is up already, btw.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 18, 2010, 07:00:27 am
961 site back online!
http://961pro.jp/ (http://961pro.jp/)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 07:01:12 am
Shouta... I should have expected that. XD His hair looked weird. I think Touma looked cool, though. His hair's like mine, only straighter... And Hokuto looked unique, with his blonde elvis hair. XD I thought that he would be a not too foreign or outright American guy, though. XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 18, 2010, 07:03:32 am
...Kuroi, you've really outdone yourself this time!
This is definitely interesting.

With this new development I sense even more tension like romances maybe?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 07:07:04 am
... Okay, I REALLY want to beat those guys up. Will be looking forward to it. Dang, they're pulling out almost every stop they can. 16 idols? That's... a... lot!

But did anyone else catch that bit out of SakagamiP's mouth were he said you couldn't produce Ryuuguu Komachi idols, or do I need to practice my listening skills more?

EDIT: Whoops, 961pro site finished loading right when the broadcast ended. What a coincidence.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 18, 2010, 07:07:32 am
You're welcome.

Thank you for all your support.
Not. You guys got told.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 07:07:56 am
i wonder how they're going to work
like, will they be usable in free mode? will they have their own songs? can the main idols sing alice or guilty?
i mean i doubt we'll get them singing The Idolm@ster 2nd mix
if its same as DS then there's F, E, D, C, B, A ranks
probably FED will be vs Ryuuguukomachi
C-A will be against 961?
also for those who missed it
PV5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by_eIKGFqco
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 18, 2010, 07:09:22 am
TOUMA AMAGASE
Age: 17
Height: 175cm
Weight: 57kg
Birthday: 3/3 Pisces
Blood Type: B
BWH: 81-65-80
Interest: Soccer, cooking, collecting figures

SHOUTA MITARAI
Age: 14
Height: 163cm
Weight: 49kg
Birthday: 4/20 Taurus
Blood Type: AB
BWH: 77-60-79
Interest: Sleeping, filial piety

HOKUTO IJUUIN
Age: 20
Height: 180cm
Weight: 64kg
Birthday: 2/14 Aquarius
Blood Type: 0
BWH: 86-76-87
Interest: Piano, violin, date
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 07:11:12 am
And still, not a Leo or Scorpio in sight, not since DS. The Idolmaster world isn't well represented astrologically.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 07:12:13 am
Oooh, ooh! I'm considered a Leo on about half the sites I see! 83 Yes, I still want to be an idol. T-T
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 18, 2010, 07:16:36 am
i wonder how they're going to work
like, will they be usable in free mode? will they have their own songs? can the main idols sing alice or guilty?
I hope so. I would so like to see them dance with the main idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 18, 2010, 07:19:02 am
... Why does Shouta rub me wrong? I don't know whyk, but he seems like a lazy, arrogant rich kid... Kinda like Iori, with an emphasis on lazy. Touma seems cool, though. And Hokuto seems, to me, to be a player.

... Why would one want the BWH of a male idol?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 07:20:54 am
961's slogan is "Destruction is but the beginning of rebirth..."
Kuroi! XD
Also: Alice in chains reference?
btw, touma on imas station tomorrow
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 18, 2010, 07:23:02 am
lol, Kuroi has a bigger bust than Azusa. lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 18, 2010, 07:24:32 am
Lolol Kuori's BWH and interest's written there too.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 07:27:43 am
Lolol Kuori's BWH and interest's written there too.

Well, it also says "Touch" your favorite star XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 07:30:20 am
Lolol Kuori's BWH and interest's written there too.

You mean French and looking at mirrors?

I'll quote Scottie McPherson: "See the mirror, you'll see a fool."
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 18, 2010, 07:31:49 am
bawwl toumaaaa.

scotty you have my undying support i might still end up beating 961 anyways but yeah

Touma seems pretty tsundere to me, but my favorite so far X:
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 07:51:33 am
Oh yeah, hey. Master Artist 2 release dates.

20 October: Haruka, Hibiki, Miki
17 November: Makoto, Chihaya, Takane
15 December: Yukiho, Mami, Yayoi

Also, you can vote for which of the groups above get the The World Is All One single. The results will be announced at the 10 January live.

EDIT: Oh hey, one more thing. I didn't catch the information thingie, but I think it said the game was only one player, meaning no online versus. Anyone catch this?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 18, 2010, 08:52:01 am
Tl of the 5th PV

What have we here...
Hey, you. The one watching this video.
Oui, I meant you.
Do you want my autograph or something?
Your adulation for I, Kuroi, president of 961 Productions is very understandable, but...
I'm afraid I have a job to be doing, so save it for another time.
In exchange, I'll introduce you to my idols, the pride of 961 Productions!
Unlike those nobodies at that worthless agency 765 Productions, my idols shall overwhelm you with their performance!
Now, your advent has come!
Jupiter!

=====================

Uso no kotoba ga furue
Uso no toki wo kizamu
Machi wa yuganda malice

(Kimi wo miushinau... Alice...)

Koe no todokanai meiro koete
Te wo nobasetara
Tsumi to batsu wo subete ukeirete
Ima kimi ni sabakareyou

Machi wa yuganda madness

(Kimi wo miushinau... Guilty...)

Koe no todokanai meiro koete
Te wo nobasetara
Tsumi to batsu wo subete ukeirete
Ima kimi wo sabakite

=====================

The lies just keep on piling up
Until the time we spent together becomes a lie itself
And as this city is warped by it's malice

(I lose sight of you... my Alice...)

Though my voice can't reach across this labyrinth
I'll reach my hand out across it to you
I accept my sins, and the punishment I must face
So I beg you to cast your judgement upon me

And as this city is warped by it's madness...

(I lose sight of you... I'm guilty...)

Though my voice can't reach across this labyrinth
I'll reach my hand out across it to you
I accept your sins as the punishment I must face
And cast my judgement upon you
Edit: Maybe someone can put this on the wiki
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 18, 2010, 09:06:04 am
im@s has dudes what the heck.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 18, 2010, 09:18:34 am
In my opinion, I prefer dudes rather than traps... I mean, at least they dont play with my mind...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 18, 2010, 09:20:24 am
Traps do not embrace their power over the inferior sex. This is why they do not make good idols.

I have gone over this with a team of scientists, this has been proven.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 18, 2010, 10:23:41 am
Cannot believe I missed this...male idols :D Amazing, Kuroi!

Though, watching their performance was almost surreal...I still can't believe it. XD I guess the title of Makoto's topic "The closest we're going to get to a male idol 'sides Ryo" can be changed :x

Can't wait to see how this all comes together (your unit, Ritsuko's unit, and the legion of man-idols). NBGI is officially blowing my mind with this stuff.

Oh yeah, hey. Master Artist 2 release dates.

20 October: Haruka, Hibiki, Miki
17 November: Makoto, Chihaya, Takane
15 December: Yukiho, Mami, Yayoi

Also, you can vote for which of the groups above get the The World Is All One single. The results will be announced at the 10 January live.
Where do you vote at?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 18, 2010, 11:22:37 am
Where do you vote at?

http://765pro.jp/news.html#100918_1
選抜方法は所属レコード会社様(http://columbia.jp/idolmaster/)にて後日発表。
How to vote will be posted on Columbia Records' site at some later date.

http://ameblo.jp/project-imas/entry-10652044461.html
In 40 minutes, Ishihara, the series director, will be interviewed by Famitsu. Topics will be Jupiter and Ryuuguu.

EDIT: That's what I get for going on auto-pilot. By now, they should be posting that up any minute.

EDIT2: Just after my edit. http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/18033749.html
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on September 18, 2010, 01:08:51 pm
.....Introduction was trash talk. Was so expecting that. >.<

Well, I have no comment on the male idols (though I admit I wasn't expecting that).

If history would repeat itself from SP to iM@S2, then I can't wait for the story to unfold. Kuroi, you've proven yourself, for now.

... Why would one want the BWH of a male idol?

Same reason, but inverted, as guys would want female idols' BWH. It doesn't mean that your BWH is taken, you have boobs. For guys, mostly and occasionally the case, a larger breast size means broader shoulders and, saying this with a neutral tone, bigger abs.

*sees Kuroi's stats*

............Damn. An almost macho built.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on September 18, 2010, 01:23:27 pm
I......I.......


I think I actually LIKE the three new guys.
I enjoyed watching them perform and well, didn't mind them.

Overall reaction: "...I'm ok with that"
Kuroi....never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: OverlordIX on September 18, 2010, 01:44:30 pm
Truth be told, why are Azusa, Ritsuko, Iori and Ami grouped separetly from the rest of the 765 idols? =x
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 18, 2010, 02:23:19 pm
I have to be honest, im not really that fond of the male idols. I kind or prefer female idols in the game over male idols. (Besides Ryo) But I do like the group of Iori, Azusa, and Ami with their new song Smoky Thrill.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 18, 2010, 02:36:26 pm
Truth be told, why are Azusa, Ritsuko, Iori and Ami grouped separetly from the rest of the 765 idols? =x

Because they have their own unit. They cannot be produced in im@s2.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 18, 2010, 02:51:20 pm
I have to be honest, im not really that fond of the male idols. I kind or prefer female idols in the game over male idols.
Me too, but I see this is a great leap of development in iM@S. With more active dance and male idols, now iM@S has become more competitive to the other bands. I'm personally happy to see that.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: OverlordIX on September 18, 2010, 03:00:20 pm
Because they have their own unit. They cannot be produced in im@s2.

Wow, now thats quite a bummer.  o.o
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on September 18, 2010, 07:06:05 pm
Smoky Thrill is awesome! It's as addictive as it should be :D I've already listened to it, like, three times!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 18, 2010, 09:16:44 pm
Smoky Thrill is awesome! It's as addictive as it should be :D I've already listened to it, like, three times!

thirty here, and counting
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on September 18, 2010, 10:29:15 pm
I love them bois~
Commence the yaoi in 3... 2... 1...
I must admit, i really love them all <3~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 18, 2010, 11:37:52 pm
Smoky Thrill is awesome! It's as addictive as it should be :D I've already listened to it, like, three times!

I have listened to it like 10-12 times already. It's that addicting!  ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 18, 2010, 11:46:53 pm
thirty here, and counting
That's my speed XD When the songs are good it's easy to listen to them a ton!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on September 18, 2010, 11:51:33 pm
I like Smoky Thrill. I think it's quite adorable. <3
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 19, 2010, 12:08:02 am
I want to see Touma performing Do-Dai
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 19, 2010, 12:33:43 am
I want to see Touma performing Do-Dai
2nded.


I was just thinking about this, I hope in the Idolm@ster 2 all of my idols will greet me good morning and good night.
That will just be so cute.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 19, 2010, 12:56:19 am
Btw, there's some unofficial source saying there'll be something more regarding Ryugu Komachi that'll be revealed on Famitsu.
Could be something good, could be something we know already.



All I need now in Imas 2 is 876...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on September 19, 2010, 01:50:30 am
Yeah, it'd be cool if there are 3 other producers you have to compete with: Ritsuko, Kuroi, and 876.

But really, I just really want to see Eri and Ryo in HD. x_x
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 19, 2010, 01:52:20 am
Ooh, that's a good point, Lushe! Maybe 876 will deal have Eri, Ai, and ConfirmedGender!Ryo, being the first production agency to mix male and female idols in a group? To go with the unity theme?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 19, 2010, 01:53:29 am
But really, I just really want to see Eri and Ryo in HD. x_x
I agree with you, there. I think if they introduced Ai, Eri, and Ryo into the game somehow, it'd really be huge. (As I always say; the DS game wasn't so great, but that's no fault of the 876 idols XD)

Besides, as aforementioned, it would be a big waste if they used nothing from the DS game...though, weren't the people in charge of the DS game fired?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 19, 2010, 02:30:49 am
All I need now in Imas 2 is 876...

I understand that might invoke some serious murderous rage should it happen, but I approve of this idea. I'm getting the feeling it's not going to happen, though.

... But the lack of versus... kinda brings a tear to my eye. I mean, I really did like how the game worked before, there were some strategies you could use depending on the situation, and trying to figure out where you stood in relation to others was engaging.

Now, it's a rhythm game, which... seems like there could only be one strategy, despite all the things you can do. Really, I think how deep the game can get is determined by how the multipliers change. I mean, it's still an improvement over most rhythm games, which are pretty much Perfect Attack fests (not that it's a bad thing).

The way it looks like right now to me... Do I dare say it?

Promotions seem to be like the DS Promotions, except with more idols (and more idols at once).
Events seem to be in the style of both SP and DS.
Lessons... well, lessons are lessons, even if they're new, as long as they aren't Performance Lesson terrible, it doesn't matter.
Auditions replaced with Festas.

And that's what Im@s2 is generally looking to shape up like to me.

But really, I just really want to see Eri and Ryo in HD. x_x

YUMEKO!!!

... I realize I'm probably the only person here that'll say this.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 19, 2010, 02:41:20 am
 Actually, I was wondering why Yumeko didn't have a CV or song or anything. I mean, she's supposed to be an idol, too. Maybe 876 picked her up, and Ryo was brought over with the other guys at 961 along with another guy?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 19, 2010, 03:07:29 am
Cookie time.

Quote from: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/18033749.html
先ほどもお話しましたが、今回『アイマス2』にはオンライン対戦がありません。

今回、『アイマス2』は、『SP』でいうところのストーリーモードが基準となっていますが、“燃え”の復活のためにも、『SP』のように、エンディングで絶対に大団円を見られるという1本道のシステムにはしていません。エンディングは分岐しますので、本気で勝ちに行かないと大団円を見ることができないんです。

Ishihara: I said this before, but Im@s2 doesn't have online versus.

Ishihara: We used the format in SP as the basis for Im@s2's story mode, but in order for us to reintroduce the whole burning spirit thing, we aren't actually making it a straight shot to the single ending at the end like in SP. The endings branch out, so if you don't give it your all to win, you won't see the true ending.

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/301/301239/img.html

Two symbols on the map: Red microphone clash, and two people with a yen sign in the corner.
Note the columns: Time cost (3) and money cost (0). I think that's what the symbols stand for: a clock and a bag that looks like it could be stuffed with cash.
Under the schedule: Remaining time, money.
Second box: Southern area, number of fans.
Bottom left: Money. The same bag symbol is here.
Bottom right: Above what the buttons tell you to do, these look like map zoom symbols.

My speculation? Promotions give you money, you spend money to do certain things.

Actually, I was wondering why Yumeko didn't have a CV or song or anything.

She wasn't the focus of the game... even if she was a major character in Ryo's story arc. We're also dealing with a DS cart, with more limited memory. Voices were only there for senpai idols, and for the main idols during important events. Anything else was probably asking too much out of the cart. 10 songs with 3 voice tracks each, plus voicing? As far as I know, you've only got 512MB to work with at max, and I think it was mostly used just for all that music and voicing.

EDIT: Links.
TGS Show, if you missed it: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12146198
Dance Lesson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgyF3ZfVfs
Communication: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgfEa-ytqeQ
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 19, 2010, 04:02:08 am
TGS Show, if you missed it: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12146198
Ritsuko also sings Smoky Thrill? Then I believe we can play Smoky Thrill in free concert mode and with the idols other than Ami, Iori, Azusa, and Ritsuko as well. I love Ami's voice in Smoky Thrill. XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 19, 2010, 04:09:34 am
She wasn't the focus of the game... even if she was a major character in Ryo's story arc. We're also dealing with a DS cart, with more limited memory. Voices were only there for senpai idols, and for the main idols during important events. Anything else was probably asking too much out of the cart. 10 songs with 3 voice tracks each, plus voicing? As far as I know, you've only got 512MB to work with at max, and I think it was mostly used just for all that music and voicing.

 Point taken, but I was talking about more for a CD or something, maybe including her, Ai's mom, and Cineria, as all three of them could believably be given a voice actor and songs...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 19, 2010, 04:31:19 am
Point taken, but I was talking about more for a CD or something, maybe including her, Ai's mom, and Cineria, as all three of them could believably be given a voice actor and songs...

Ah, point taken. Also, point approved.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 19, 2010, 04:42:38 am
Ah, point taken. Also, point approved.
^_^ I might be a bit biased, though, considering I find Yumeko adorable! XD

 I still would find it awesome if the 876 idols came up, preferably with Yumeko...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 19, 2010, 05:00:35 am
I like the style of the dance lesson. Can't wait to see the other lessons.
I always love hearing Ami live. She's so good at that voice.

On the note of 876 being in Idolm@ster 2...are they still technically allowed to use those characters?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 19, 2010, 05:29:21 am
PV5 subs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1O6xG3S5tQ
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 19, 2010, 05:48:37 am
TGS Show, if you missed it: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12146198
I loved Ami & Ritsuko's Smoky Thrill~ Though it's always weird to listen to the CVs sing live...some of them do very well but others.... (and Asami-san's "nya!!!" in the song XDD)
Also, I swear, the more I see short-hair Azusa, the more adorable she gets.
I think my favorite part of seeing the in-game idols:
3! 2! 1!
Haruka: wakka wakka wakka
ターッチ! > *cutesome 3-idol hightouch*
トップアイドル > all idols: "awww...."
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on September 19, 2010, 05:50:29 am
Knowing the lyrics to Gulity or alice makes me love them more~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on September 19, 2010, 06:24:30 am
Oh hey, I actually like these lyrics. Kudos to the songwriter.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: kozu on September 19, 2010, 08:19:52 am
The removal of playable Azusa has removed all reason for me to play this game.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 19, 2010, 08:22:13 am
The removal of playable Azusa has removed all reason for me to play this game.
That's pretty harsh. I'm sure she'll be sad that you won't come to support her on stage :( And in whatever free-stage mode they'll have XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 19, 2010, 08:42:08 am
Maybe they'll make Ami, Azusa, Ritsuko and Iori playable but only as DLC. And then introduce the Dearly Stars group, all as DLC. 1200 points each!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on September 19, 2010, 09:23:33 am
No 876 idols please, I wouldn't want them to ruin the game~

My biggest question is, when are they going to tell us the release date of the game?  I'm ready on spending 300+ dollars on the special edition.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 19, 2010, 09:32:05 am
No 876 idols please, I wouldn't want them to ruin the game~

My biggest question is, when are they going to tell us the release date of the game?  I'm ready on spending 300+ dollars on the special edition.
February next year, it's already been leaked XD

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/11/idolmster-2-due-on-xbox-360-in-2011/ (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/11/idolmster-2-due-on-xbox-360-in-2011/)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 19, 2010, 01:01:04 pm
I really don't understand the 876 hate on this forum, I really don't.
I mean, I've met more people with rage over changed Miki in SP then DS in general, IRL.

Reading the interview pretty much solidified Imas 2 position in my Imas series spectrum.
It's not quite a sequel, more like Imas EX or Imas Turbo.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 19, 2010, 01:26:53 pm
I really don't understand the 876 hate on this forum, I really don't.
I mean, I've met more people with rage over changed Miki in SP then DS in general, IRL.

Reading the interview pretty much solidified Imas 2 position in my Imas series spectrum.
It's not quite a sequel, more like Imas EX or Imas Turbo.
People dislike the game compared to the other titles, and the idols take the hit for it.

And as far as I know, each Idolm@ster title is unrelated to another except for Idolm@ster DS which takes place after the PSP games.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on September 19, 2010, 01:31:24 pm
I really don't understand the 876 hate on this forum, I really don't.
I mean, I've met more people with rage over changed Miki in SP then DS in general, IRL.
People dislike the game compared to the other titles, and the idols take the hit for it.

I don't hate 'em, but IMHO, swift here pretty much said why there's some hate.

That, and probably because you don't play as a producer in it, hence people who enjoyed the game as playing as one didn't enjoy it the way they have used to.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 19, 2010, 05:17:04 pm
All 3 of Jupiter's idols are meant to be male right?
Well no ones mentioned this but the "boy" with the headband, shouta? is totally a girl.
Anyone seen K-on? Just like Ritsko. And the face is Ami/mami's face. Look at the eyebrows and the face, its not just a bit different, its totally different to the other 2. Doesn't "shouta" also mean young boy or something as well?

Question is, is that just bad character design or is this some kind of trick like they did with the other game and used a male character pretending to be a girl?

Of course I could be seeing things... but it just bugs me.

I do think this is an awesome idea tho, bringing male idols in, its going to open the game up to girls and make it quite cool.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 19, 2010, 05:30:51 pm
I totally think he's a girl. He has the girl eyes.
Maybe that's going to be 961's fall in the game.

Of course, it could work in their favor too and attract more fans.
Who knows.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 19, 2010, 05:57:08 pm
All 3 of Jupiter's idols are meant to be male right?
Well no ones mentioned this but the "boy" with the headband, shouta? is totally a girl.
Anyone seen K-on? Just like Ritsko. And the face is Ami/mami's face. Look at the eyebrows and the face, its not just a bit different, its totally different to the other 2.
Then Shouta is actually suppose to be Mami debuted in disguise! (if Ami is still playable)
Anyway, that's exactly why I hate him. XP
(Anyone remember "Hey!! Idolm@ster fan boys! click here x3" topic?, then you should understand how I feel...)

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 19, 2010, 05:58:33 pm
iDOLM@STER 2 Now Yaoi Master (Sankaku Complex)

IdolMaster fans have been stunned to learn that IdolMaster 2 will be adding a trio of hot bishonen to its traditional line-up of pubescent girls, even as a number of traditional fan favourites have been dumped from the game.

Presumably their inclusion is intended as a gambit to broaden the game’s appeal to include the as yet untapped yaoi-doujinshi consuming fujoshi market.
The changes are likely to provoke a creepy IdolMaster otaku reaction (if not a rebellion) – announced before the surprise addition of “Jupiter” was the removal of of four of the girls (Iori, Ami, Azusa and Ritsuko) from the playable roster, infuriating their fans, as well as a change in seiyuu for another of the girls.

The fan reaction:

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1261/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg/)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on September 19, 2010, 06:04:43 pm
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1261/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg/)
NOOOOOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on September 19, 2010, 06:12:03 pm
Otaku rage is f***ing stupid. This is a common fact.
Then again, not being able to produce four of the idols is extremely disappointing... still, not a justifiable reason to destroy every Im@s game you own. :\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 19, 2010, 06:21:22 pm
iDOLM@STER 2 Now Yaoi Master (Sankaku Complex)

IdolMaster fans have been stunned to learn that IdolMaster 2 will be adding a trio of hot bishonen to its traditional line-up of pubescent girls, even as a number of traditional fan favourites have been dumped from the game.

Presumably their inclusion is intended as a gambit to broaden the game’s appeal to include the as yet untapped yaoi-doujinshi consuming fujoshi market.
The changes are likely to provoke a creepy IdolMaster otaku reaction (if not a rebellion) – announced before the surprise addition of “Jupiter” was the removal of of four of the girls (Iori, Ami, Azusa and Ritsuko) from the playable roster, infuriating their fans, as well as a change in seiyuu for another of the girls.

The fan reaction: I agree with them.

(image) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg/)

That kinda thing really saddens me, and also makes me a bit angry actually, the original game/games do not suddenly become 'damaged goods' because of a new development, and so destroying them like that is frankly the most stupid thing to do, if anything they should be treasured more if you don't like the new stuff.

I personally really don't like having a new Yukiho - nothing against the new VA or anything, its simply because shes not the same, however that just makes me want to get the original 2 xbox games and cds more. I will totally be getting IMAS2 as well because so far I thinks its just awesome. I can relate to the fan rage, as I have rage against Sega for destroying Valkyria Chronicles - the sequel on the PSP is horrible, and the third is another crappy PSP release, but am I going to destroy my original PS3 Valkyria 1? Hell no, its still my favourite PS3 game, and will be no matter what they make after. I was tempted to post my copy of the sequel back to Sega in the US as a complaint, and that's pretty extreme alone I think.

But seeing those discs, some limited editions destroyed like that, its just wrong,so many people would love to have those, myself included, it angers me.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 19, 2010, 06:42:52 pm


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1261/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg

I think that is kind of stupid to destroy idolmaster CD's just because Azusa and Iori aren't in the playable roster! I know it's kind of dissappointing that you can't play them and they end up being rival idols instead, but I wouldn't go as far as destroying idolm@ster cd's over that. Not like I have them anyway. If you are truly a fan of idolmaster you should just accept the changes made in the game even if you don't like them instead of getting pissed off over the fact that you won't be able to produce Azusa and Iori and go as far as destroying your CD's!

Luckily for me, Yukiho is a produceable character in the game! And these boys from 961 aren't taking her away from me! Just saying! XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sengar Zonvolt on September 19, 2010, 06:50:46 pm
Jupiter isnt likely to be playable in Story Mode, anyway.
I hope Iori is playable at least in office mode  :-\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 19, 2010, 06:53:22 pm
Otaku rage is f***ing stupid. This is a common fact.
Indeed it is.
I hope Iori is playable at least in office mode  :-\
Hopefully.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 19, 2010, 07:11:02 pm
Jupiter isnt likely to be playable in Story Mode, anyway.
I hope Iori is playable at least in office mode  :-\

I actually really hope they do make a version of the game where you can produce Jupiter, it would be truly awesome to be able to choose your side and do battle against the other, play as either of the 765 set or as 961 and go against them. It would also open the game up to a whole new audience.

Going out on a limb here, but SP introduced 961's girls first as rivals, then they became playable in imas 2, could this be the start of something huge? Imas 3 with producible male idols? Bring them in as rivals first, lets the fans (sort of/or not) accept them, then bring them in fully in the next game? And I'm totally addicted to Alice or guilty, sorry but it blows Smoky Thrill out of the water. And yes I'm still a 765 supporter....lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sengar Zonvolt on September 19, 2010, 07:17:25 pm
I actually really hope they do make a version of the game where you can produce Jupiter, it would be truly awesome to be able to choose your side and do battle against the other, play as either of the 765 set or as 961 and go against them. It would also open the game up to a whole new audience.

Going out on a limb here, but SP introduced 961's girls first as rivals, then they became playable in imas 2, could this be the start of something huge? Imas 3 with producible male idols? Bring them in as rivals first, lets the fans (sort of/or not) accept them, then bring them in fully in the next game? And I'm totally addicted to Alice or guilty, sorry but it blows Smoky Thrill out of the water. And yes I'm still a 765 supporter....lol
For that, more than three Bishonens are required
I can already see a IM@S 3 Girls side or at the very least producible male idols
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 19, 2010, 07:36:04 pm
http://img521.imageshack.us/i/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg)
The blog post is a little misleading.
This pic was posted on 2ch right after the announcement of the Ryugu Komachi unit...by that time it was still unclear if they are able to produce, not to mention "Juputer".

By the way:
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/jupiter_replacement.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on September 19, 2010, 08:46:08 pm
i dont understand all the rage. to me its pretty clear that iori, azusa, ami, ritsuko, and the jupiter guys will all be unproducable. whats the problem? theyre still in the game and im fairly sure you can use them in a free play/office mode type of deal. its not like theyre cut out of the game completely. personally i really like the ryuugu komachi group, and having it as a set group makes it all the more awesome. it doesnt matter to me if theyre unproducable, theyre still in the game and you can still use them in free performance. im kind of mixed on the 961 idols, but it does seem logical to include more rivals. im personally hoping for an 876 group as rivals. hopefully that means we get Alive! as DLC.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 19, 2010, 08:52:18 pm
There's no point in raging anyway. The game comes out in a few months, I don't think nbg is going to change their mind because a couple people are destroying stuff. If you don't like it, make your own game...
The iDOLM@STER: Dearly Stars 2



$10 says the enraged people still buy the game. They'll say, "We're just buying it to talk about how bad it is"
But we all know the truth.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 19, 2010, 09:06:26 pm
Okay, I'm too lazy to pull the quote, but Shouta doesn't have Mami's face (note, Ami and Mami have eyelashes at the corners of theirs~). He totally has Iori's face XDD

And, destroying the old iM@S games and stuff was a ridiculously stupid idea. Really. They've showed us all of the Ryuuguu Komachi idols on stage with playable idols long before they actually showed us Ryuuguu Komachi. They show on stage with playable idols. You can use them in the game. Maybe not directly in story mode, but you can still put them on stage with any idol you want. Without a doubt they have a free-produce or an office mode, because we have seen this.

I hate that people who have the resources to actually play the game would destroy it like that because they didn't think things through with the evidence given. I wish I could march to that otaku's house and take his 360. Then I could finally play the game myself.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 19, 2010, 09:59:56 pm
... Am I the only one bothered by their saying four idols became unplayable? Technically, only three did- We still have half of the Futami twin "Ami" image that the last few games had as a single idol... And even then, like you guys said, the unplayable-ness is only story mode.

 And honestly, I think the biggest loss was Ritsuko, and even then her change made the most sense...

 
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 19, 2010, 10:05:51 pm
I would rage too if my favorite idol wouldn't have her own story and be producible.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 19, 2010, 10:07:33 pm
... Am I the only one bothered by their saying four idols became unplayable? Technically, only three did- We still have half of the Futami twin "Ami" image that the last few games had as a single idol... And even then, like you guys said, the unplayable-ness is only story mode.

 And honestly, I think the biggest loss was Ritsuko, and even then her change made the most sense...
Whoever was the biggest loss is up to the fans, of course. And I'd give it 4 idols, because I know many people (myself included) want to see Ami and Mami on stage at the same time. (though, Ritsuko's really does make the most sense; she didn't want to be an idol originally, did she?)

I don't understand raging over it, though. You can still use them in the game.  :-\ You just can't use them in the main story mode...what modes they'll have in all will be revealed eventually, but we know we can have the idols on stage at least...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 19, 2010, 10:12:46 pm
iDOLM@STER 2 Now Yaoi Master (Sankaku Complex)

IdolMaster fans have been stunned to learn that IdolMaster 2 will be adding a trio of hot bishonen to its traditional line-up of pubescent girls, even as a number of traditional fan favourites have been dumped from the game.

Presumably their inclusion is intended as a gambit to broaden the game’s appeal to include the as yet untapped yaoi-doujinshi consuming fujoshi market.
The changes are likely to provoke a creepy IdolMaster otaku reaction (if not a rebellion) – announced before the surprise addition of “Jupiter” was the removal of of four of the girls (Iori, Ami, Azusa and Ritsuko) from the playable roster, infuriating their fans, as well as a change in seiyuu for another of the girls.

The fan reaction:

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1261/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg/)

This fan reaction was when this information was still at rumour status. Then Hatima pointed out that it was just a rumour, but now it's confirmed. I bet he felt like a moron for awhile then.

At least that guy's happy that the news is true, or else he wrecked his shit for no reason.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 19, 2010, 10:41:13 pm
And I'd give it 4 idols, because I know many people (myself included) want to see Ami and Mami on stage at the same time. (though, Ritsuko's really does make the most sense; she didn't want to be an idol originally, did she?)

 What I meant was, Ami and Mami didn't count as seperate idols in the first place, so we technically aren't losing one, only not getting one that we wanted. Like Awakened Miki doesn't count as a seperate idol, though people still are mad about it.

... But yeah, you could also say you're losing one. Just my technicalities. XP

 And Ritsuko originally wanted to be a Producer, but when she found out that 765 didn't have enough idol trainees, she volunteered. Now that they have more than enough in this AU, she had no need to be one. She will, apparently, still be on stage, though. ^_^
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 20, 2010, 12:25:20 am
Namco Bandai: "Fine! no refunds".

Come on, if namco wants to change the game completely they will do it, if people want the game to be diferent then buy them the rights of the game and do it. (ill do it if I have that economical power....)

Imas 2 its not the end of the history-line (or at least thats what I hope) it wouldnt be good for a game to be the same all the time. besides, still months untill its released. everything can happend.

In my opinion the fact of having a rival production makes the game be more realistic. are actions done taking the point of view of each character. try watching it as a real life situation, probable isnt it?
the fact they choose those 4 idols for that, and they decided to not put an storyline well thats up to namco xD

Imagine a 2nd game like a side B (Ryuuguu Komachi's side) we never know what can happend (at least for now), the end of the game is not written yet.

*looks at the image again* whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! with the hard it is for me to buy something from japan... :(
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 20, 2010, 12:51:07 am
Oh! TGS scores have been posted, the entry on 2ch with the score was deleted but iM@S 2 was the top game for the Future Games Award.
http://www.ps3gen.fr/tgs-2010-future-game-awards-actualite-13083.html
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 20, 2010, 12:59:00 am

BTW. if someone dont have them already or they havent been posted yet:

3rd PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-3_765pro_2ndmix_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
4th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-4_765pro_smoky_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
5th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-5_961pro_alice_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)

uhhh... enjoy :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 20, 2010, 01:10:25 am
Am I disappointed that I can't produce Azusa? Yes. Am I lamenting some of the gameplay changes? Yes. Does this mean Im@s2 has to be a bad game? No.

The thing is, Im@s is changing, and it's inevitable that it will lose its appeal to certain members of the fanbase. But when you're changing the game like this... I feel like a broken record... FOR A SERIES TO STAY ALIVE AND FRESH IT MUST CHANGE. Be disappointed by the changes, sure, and based on the very fact it's changing will cause some people to no longer be a part of the fanbase. This is normal, this happens, accept it, it's a fact. It can happen to you, that's just how things go.

But, if you've got any shred of a gamer in you, any part of fandom left alive, you should be able to give it an honest critique that isn't just colored by the fact that it's changed, but rather how those changes were executed. When you get right down to it, it might kill your appeal to the game, but does it actually kill the game itself? It might not be something you're in to, but it can still be a good game.

I want to stress here that the reason I think we can only produce 9 idols is because that's a manageable number to actually make a game for. Whatever you might think about the people making these games, they've got limitations. They've got to make decisions. They've only got so many resources to use. I can understand this decision, and I don't think it's something they did specifically for... whatever evil reasons one could think of. If they didn't have to make this decision, I don't think they would have.

Although... with all that said, I don't know if American and Japanese opinions differ, and it might be a small set of people, but...

http://forum.project-imas.com/index.php/topic,420.msg15599.html#msg15599

Excluding Haruka, who's the main character, check the second list and look who's at the bottom of the popularity list.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 20, 2010, 01:30:59 am
BTW. if someone dont have them already or they havent been posted yet:

3rd PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-3_765pro_2ndmix_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
4th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-4_765pro_smoky_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
5th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-5_961pro_alice_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)

uhhh... enjoy :D
Thanks a ton for the links! :D 60fps is so beautiful.

By the way, I don't know if it's already been stated on this topic somewhere or not, but...what does "Ryuuguu Komachi" mean, anyway? Something with dragons?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 20, 2010, 02:21:59 am
BTW. if someone dont have them already or they havent been posted yet:

3rd PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-3_765pro_2ndmix_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
4th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-4_765pro_smoky_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
5th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-5_961pro_alice_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)

uhhh... enjoy :D

wow, my pc cant handle these D:
I have to watch them on my laptop OTL
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 20, 2010, 02:37:22 am
iDOLM@STER 2 Now Yaoi Master (Sankaku Complex)

IdolMaster fans have been stunned to learn that IdolMaster 2 will be adding a trio of hot bishonen to its traditional line-up of pubescent girls, even as a number of traditional fan favourites have been dumped from the game.

Presumably their inclusion is intended as a gambit to broaden the game’s appeal to include the as yet untapped yaoi-doujinshi consuming fujoshi market.
The changes are likely to provoke a creepy IdolMaster otaku reaction (if not a rebellion) – announced before the surprise addition of “Jupiter” was the removal of of four of the girls (Iori, Ami, Azusa and Ritsuko) from the playable roster, infuriating their fans, as well as a change in seiyuu for another of the girls.

The fan reaction:

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1261/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/idolmaster2bishonendebu.jpg/)

Hundreds of dollars down the drain. Not to say that I don't understand how the guy feels, but why?

I want to stress here that the reason I think we can only produce 9 idols is because that's a manageable number to actually make a game for. Whatever you might think about the people making these games, they've got limitations. They've got to make decisions. They've only got so many resources to use. I can understand this decision, and I don't think it's something they did specifically for... whatever evil reasons one could think of. If they didn't have to make this decision, I don't think they would have.

My guess is that they were limited by the hardware. There's only so much that you can fit into 7GB (a typical 360 game's space on disc). At least a PS3 Blu-ray disc gives ample room for producers to expand into the near future, even if current games rarely use the full amount of space.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 20, 2010, 02:41:43 am
BTW. if someone dont have them already or they havent been posted yet:

3rd PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-3_765pro_2ndmix_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
4th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-4_765pro_smoky_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
5th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-5_961pro_alice_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)

uhhh... enjoy :D

The quality of the videos are amazing! Thanks for posting this!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 20, 2010, 03:10:51 am
BTW. if someone dont have them already or they havent been posted yet:

3rd PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-3_765pro_2ndmix_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
4th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-4_765pro_smoky_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
5th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-5_961pro_alice_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)

uhhh... enjoy :D
THANK YOU SIR! q^o^p
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on September 20, 2010, 06:10:40 am
I always love when people do the smashing thing.  Cause hasn't it been proven with otaku, they'll buy multiple copies of stuff?  IDK just looks like in that picture, whoever it is, they're just smashing extra copies.  Anyone remember that one guy who bought a gazillion SP copies when it came out?  I'd have to assume this is just them killing their 4th or 20th copy xD



Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 20, 2010, 06:14:35 am
I always love when people do the smashing thing.  Cause hasn't it been proven with otaku, they'll buy multiple copies of stuff?  IDK just looks like in that picture, whoever it is, they're just smashing extra copies.  Anyone remember that one guy who bought a gazillion SP copies when it came out?  I'd have to assume this is just them killing their 4th or 20th copy xD
I think it's still pretty sad to see this stuff ._. I mean, what a waste. Think about how many people would've loved to have this sort of thing, and are now seeing it all cracked and torn apart :-\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 20, 2010, 07:48:17 am
By the way, I don't know if it's already been stated on this topic somewhere or not, but...what does "Ryuuguu Komachi" mean, anyway? Something with dragons?

Ryuugu is an old expression that basically means "The Palace of the Dragon King". Komachi just means a beauty or belle.

I quite like "Beauties of the Dragon Court" as a translation but with all these things there's room to make fruity interpretations.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Demeter on September 20, 2010, 07:54:38 am
Forgive me for asking, but where's the proof that only 9 Idols will be producable in Idolm@ster 2? If that's so, the 2nd PV is very misleading.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 20, 2010, 07:56:20 am
Forgive me for asking, but where's the proof that only 9 Idols will be producable in Idolm@ster 2? If that's so, the 2nd PV is very misleading.
Ryuuguu Komachi is a rival unit. Therefore, if you're going up against Iori, Ami, and Azusa, with Ritsuko as their Producer, you can't produce any of them. Without a doubt, that is involved in a "Story" mode.

The 2nd PV had to be either:
1: A "free-produce" mode, or
2: An "office"/"L4U" free-stage mode.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 20, 2010, 08:07:56 am
I'm kind of possibly clinging onto the belief that you might be able to 'unlock' the Ryuugukomachi idols later in the game - especially as it looks like they'll be your Fes rivals for the first half and Jupiter might be for the second?

But I'm kind of resigned to Azusa and Ritsuko seperation and will have to live with it, I guess.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 20, 2010, 08:28:09 am
Forgive me for asking, but where's the proof that only 9 Idols will be producable in Idolm@ster 2? If that's so, the 2nd PV is very misleading.

I believe it was straight out of Sakagami's mouth during the TGS event. Otherwise, this very ominous sounding comment from Ishihara, during his interview with Famitsu (linked earlier).

EDIT: I'd like to add that, my memory could be a bit fuzzy whether he actually said, word-for-word, you couldn't produce them, but I remember hearing something out of his mouth that pretty much confirmed it for me. I'll never forget that feeling...

Quote from: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/18033749.html
ユーザーの皆さんには春香のプロデューサー、千早のプロデューサーではなく、765プロのプロデューサーになって、自分たちといっしょに彼女たちを盛り上げていってほしいということなので。

I would like everyone to not think of themselves as Haruka's Producer, or Chihaya's Producer, but rather as a 765 Producer, and enjoy their time with the idols in the game that way.

The Im@s2 main page says you can add two guests to your unit for a stage live, from Ryuuguu or from the 6 you're not producing. This was also reported in Famitsu.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 20, 2010, 09:51:24 am
http://file.kaokagoshima.3rin.net/kouho.jpg

lol

Edit: Ama.jp is full of reviews of 1/5... here: http://goo.gl/fcht
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Demeter on September 20, 2010, 10:18:32 am
I'd like to thank everyone for their responses to my question.
It seems to me that both Ritsuko's unit and Jupiter are meant as Rivals in story mode, though you'll probably be able to pick and choose from all of them in office mode.

And I don't think of the introduction of male idols in Idolm@ster is bad, it's just we all tend to resist change,even though it always comes given time. I also think that if this succeeds, an Idolm@ster for girls, or ladies side is a definite possibility.

And finally a LOL at the 1/5s, I can't give a rotten review to something I haven't played yet (at least I can't).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 20, 2010, 10:44:48 am
Pre-release reviews are even more amazing than destroying your own stuff.

This whole thing reminds me of the New Coke debacle which I used to study all the time in Marketing and Economics. Many Azusa, Iori, Ritsuko and Ami fans have been with them since the Arcade game, so it's not surprising they feel betrayed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 20, 2010, 11:42:38 am
Here comes the obligatory Downfall video:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12151997
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 20, 2010, 05:06:03 pm
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/Fans_Rage3.jpg)
Hachimasu has stopped its update...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 20, 2010, 05:31:11 pm
I'm sure he'll continue after a bit.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on September 20, 2010, 05:40:30 pm
BTW. if someone dont have them already or they havent been posted yet:

3rd PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-3_765pro_2ndmix_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
4th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-4_765pro_smoky_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
5th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-5_961pro_alice_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)

uhhh... enjoy :D


Sankyuu :3
Time to replay these videos at work non-stop.

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but did anyone get a chance to see those two iM@S items for sale during TGS?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 20, 2010, 05:45:58 pm
I'm sure he'll continue after a bit.
That's what I think too lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on September 20, 2010, 06:42:47 pm
That's what I think too lol

He's on a little hiatus
after reading blog comments, people think he's extremely shocked and paralized by having actual male idols in the game lolol
I don't think it's just coincidence of taking a hiatus right after Jupiter was announced :K
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 20, 2010, 08:28:56 pm
It's Hatima. He doesn't even play the games. He isn't even an imas fan. He doesn't have 1000 points in the first game.

This is no doubt a publicity stunt. Bet he makes a tidy profit off those affiliate links though huh.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 20, 2010, 08:32:53 pm
Edit: Ama.jp is full of reviews of 1/5... here: http://goo.gl/fcht
I like how the pictures up there are the ones edited by fans i.e. Touma with his arm around several different idols XD I swear people overreact with this stuff so much.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 20, 2010, 08:54:15 pm
Damn u touma!!!!

I'm sure he'll continue after a bit.

indeed
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 20, 2010, 08:55:27 pm
Japs are all mad about Jupiter, while Foreigners are all happy XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 20, 2010, 08:59:58 pm
Japs are all mad about Jupiter, while Foreigners are all happy XD
Speak for yourself.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 20, 2010, 09:03:40 pm
Well, the amount of fanart pouring out of it is pretty hefty XD I don't know what there is to dislike about the male idols. You're not producing 'em, they're just...there XD And it's something very new to the series...

I guess, there's the "worry" of them swooning the 765 idols?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 20, 2010, 09:20:11 pm
Eh, I think people are bitter because they feel that they're being added 'at the cost' of being able to produce the Ryuugukomachi lot, which is understandable to an extent I guess.

I mean I'm upset about losing Azusa and Ritsuko as producables, but at the same time I'm excited for Jupiter, just to see what they can do with them and make of them... but watch it be 'nothing', just like the 876 trio. :/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 20, 2010, 09:21:17 pm
reading their personality quotes (at least the translation), I found Its hard for me to get along with people with those personality. D:

still I expect something interesting will come from all this.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 20, 2010, 10:33:03 pm
Fan art will pour out regardless because the fanbase is huge. I mean, it's probably above that of Touhou.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 20, 2010, 10:37:46 pm
Wow, all the things I missed over the weekend.
First of all, the male idols: YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH. I'm glad they finally have male idols but personally, I don't like their song Alice or Guilty that much. I'm glad they're there because They can go further with Ryo's story if they decide to bring him back but I won't see them leaving 961 though. Nevertheless, this will be interesting.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 21, 2010, 12:31:20 am
The Japanese are mad but foreigners are happy?

... Well, that might be a problem, considering that the game's released there and not here. ^^;

I mean, was it just me, or was the TGS crowd kinda... heavy and lifeless after the event?

Whatever, those vids coming out now, some of them are funny. Others, though, are just depressing. Let the game come out, people!

EDIT: I think I even saw a petition somewhere where they were trying to get Ryuuguu idols back in the game as producable idols. Letting Bandai Namco know that people want those idols to be producable? They already know!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 21, 2010, 01:56:31 am
EDIT: I think I even saw a petition somewhere where they were trying to get Ryuuguu idols back in the game as producable idols. Letting Bandai Namco know that people want those idols to be producable? They already know!

And then, NB will stab us in the back by suddenly releasing Idolmaster 2:Complete Edition for the PS3 à la Tales of Vesperia, with all the idols being available to manage.

:/

I mean, was it just me, or was the TGS crowd kinda... heavy and lifeless after the event?


Before: (http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5002388//e5002388.gif)

After: (http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15138//e15138.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15137//e15137.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15118//e15118.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5002398//e5002398.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5003881//e5003881.gif)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 21, 2010, 02:39:27 am
For anyone who wants to read the petition...
http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html#detail (http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html#detail)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 21, 2010, 03:07:46 am
And then, NB will stab us in the back by suddenly releasing Idolmaster 2:Complete Edition for the PS3 à la Tales of Vesperia, with all the idols being available to manage.

:/

Before: (http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5002388//e5002388.gif)

After: (http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15138//e15138.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15137//e15137.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15118//e15118.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5002398//e5002398.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5003881//e5003881.gif)

RIGHT! I shall start my petition! <cough> "Yukiho to have the ability to perform flying kicks and backflips while in a maid uniform (any mode is fine just as long as she does it)"

And I would sooo love that Complete edition...on the PS3...<begs>

All this pleasing the foreigners... hmmm.... you don't think they're....? I mean... they wouldn't... it would never happen rrrright? nooo nnoot a suuuuubed iiiinternational rrrrelease? <ok i said it> /dies.

...And btw I know your a mod and everything Kyo but those smilies...were art...it was just beautiful.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 21, 2010, 03:11:39 am
No! Don't even say "subbed international release"! That is the day I travel to Japan and attack them for allowing such a thing to happen!


I would like to see Yukiho do a backflip.
I imagine fanart with Shouta failing to do a backflip and Yukiho burying him.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 21, 2010, 03:19:50 am
I would like to see Yukiho do a backflip.
I believe we'll soon see that once someone successfully modify the system (like before).
But I do not wish to see the other way around (Jupiter + somky thrill!?, disgusting...).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 21, 2010, 03:20:24 am
... What's so bad about a subbed international release?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 21, 2010, 03:21:10 am
I think their rage is fogging their heads and making them confuse 'subbed' for 'dubbed'
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 21, 2010, 03:29:08 am
Now you see, rage against a dubbed release I'd get. Subbed? I'd die of excitement. I'd even buy a 360 just for one game. Of course, that would imply I have the means and money to get one... But it would be worth it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on September 21, 2010, 03:37:40 am
I don't get why people are against male idols. It's not like you HAVE to produce them, and they're rivals. You'll be going AGAINST them. Also, there are probably many MANY fan-girls (and guys?) that are super excited about them. :<
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: y2j.kj on September 21, 2010, 03:46:47 am
Male Idols? no Way! i cant accept it. . . .but i cant do anything about it.... i just the hope the game sells enough to no let the franchise die


that was my reaction when i heard the news
(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15138//e15138.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15137//e15137.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15118//e15118.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5002398//e5002398.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5003881//e5003881.gif)

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 21, 2010, 04:31:05 am
I don't get why people are against male idols. It's not like you HAVE to produce them, and they're rivals. You'll be going AGAINST them. Also, there are probably many MANY fan-girls (and guys?) that are super excited about them. :<
The male idols will now steal the hearts of the female idols ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 21, 2010, 04:35:12 am
MagentaGalaxy found this

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12166659

If you dont have a nico account, this url will be your best friend

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/*insert sm+number*

in this case
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm12166659
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on September 21, 2010, 05:32:22 am
But I do not wish to see the other way around (Jupiter + somky thrill!?, disgusting...).
Oh god, yes please.  That'd be hilarious.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 21, 2010, 05:59:42 am
The male idols will now steal the hearts of the female idols ;)
But Director-1 denied this in the interview.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 21, 2010, 06:37:26 am
MagentaGalaxy found this

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12166659

続いて:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12178120

... I'm seeing a few familiar names in the first link...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 21, 2010, 06:52:33 am
The male idols will now steal the hearts of the female idols ;)
I belive some people find this a very probable reason to dislike them actually O.o
But Director-1 denied this in the interview.
At least for people who dont know this part...
Before: (http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5002388//e5002388.gif)
After: (http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15138//e15138.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15137//e15137.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e15118//e15118.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5002398//e5002398.gif)(http://209.85.122.89/11551/86/0/e5003881//e5003881.gif)
Magnifique!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 21, 2010, 06:54:39 am
... I'm seeing a few familiar names in the first link...

Yeah, I posted up a subbed version of PV5 and they used the comments from that as the basis for their "what foreigners think of Jupiter" video.

They're kind of badly translated, too. Especially when we start talking about the backflip, I think the translator hit the limits of their English vocabulary knowledge. XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: nowano on September 21, 2010, 07:02:56 am
I came across this pic (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfan.jpg), taking a scene from the manga "Kaiji" to describe the situation among iM@S fans, which I think is kind of amusing...so I tried translated it.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfanA.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfanB.jpg)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 21, 2010, 07:14:25 am
"An idol producing game wich cannot produce idols... its just a defective game!!"

I stopped at there an laughed for a minute without reason.... xD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on September 21, 2010, 07:42:13 am
Though it probably won't happen, I still want a PS3 version of this game. XD (so I can import and play it on my NA PS3)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on September 21, 2010, 08:29:41 am
I came across this pic (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfan.jpg), taking a scene from the manga "Kaiji" to describe the situation among iM@S fans, which I think is kind of amusing...so I tried translated it.
This is truly funny observation but is also a very accurate portrayal of where iM@S fans both Japanese and Foreign are right now. In a way it kind of unifies us....
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ProjectAria on September 21, 2010, 08:52:32 am
You know I kind of wonder how Kentaro Miura is taking this...  If you don't know who he is, he writes the Manga Berserk and he known to quit time to time to play iDOLM@STER.  I'm sure he loved the news of iDOLM@STER 2 but I'm I do wonder how he feels the lack of four idols and boy bands.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 21, 2010, 08:58:08 am
That comic, so true. iM@S rules us all OTZ

Also, no objections to a English subbed version ;) objections to dubbed.

Also, PS3 version with all idols playable; no objections. Though, how much more can you do on a PS3/Blu-ray disc than a 360 one? Heck, if there's enough space they can give us Jupiter, too. *pelted by male-idol haters*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 21, 2010, 09:17:34 am
Also, PS3 version with all idols playable; no objections. Though, how much more can you do on a PS3/Blu-ray disc than a 360 one? Heck, if there's enough space they can give us Jupiter, too. *pelted by male-idol haters*
25 GB per-layer optical disc, being dual layer discs 50 GB,  five times more storage than on a DVD.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on September 21, 2010, 11:21:40 am
I came across this pic (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfan.jpg), taking a scene from the manga "Kaiji" to describe the situation among iM@S fans, which I think is kind of amusing...so I tried translated it.

aaah, laughed my face off.
off topic, where is my second season of Kaiji TV >.>

Thanks for the translation.


Talking about Kentaro Miura, i forgot, but did he specifiy an idol he loved to produce?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: lisondra22 on September 21, 2010, 12:04:03 pm
Male idols are not very bad.
Kuroi's idea was very unique though.

The "Loveplus and Dream Club" part was funny though.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 21, 2010, 01:11:22 pm
From the new Danketsu song

Mami:
"Lately everyone's talking about Futami Mami!
The crazily popular middle-schooler!
I guess I'd like a boyfriend and to be famous, but...
As long as I have my nii-chan, I guess I don't need them!

Mmhmmhmm~
If you want a leader, then just leave it to Mami!
I'll get you all to Brazil, I swear!" (I don't get it. I really don't get it, but that's seriously what it says. Luckily, it gets worse...)

Ami:
"I'm Futami Ami, her sister! Hey!
Could this mean... could it mean...?!
I'm a little sister character!
So my popularity with _________ is guaranteed! (The amount of spaces in the Japanese is exactly the right number of characters for 'lolicons'. Just sayin'.)

You're making Ami the leader, huh?
Looks like you know what you're doing!
Ami'll get you all to Brazil, I swear!" (The exact same line as Mami's! Yay... Brazil?)

This made me think of 'The world is all one', perhaps 'the world' implies the idols are now going worldwide? and Brazil could have the final/an important contest.

furthermore if you look at PV 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU2_30vbKps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU2_30vbKps)

you can see that Japan is broken up into sections, and then even further on a grid.

Then it might just be me but behind Yukiho, Hibiki and Mami is that China?
and behind Makoto, Takane and Miki, is that America?
and behind Chihaya, Yayoi and Haruka is that Australia?

PV 2 we can see pretty much the same thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhQmOwin_Ag&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhQmOwin_Ag&feature=fvst)

Now it might just be me, but perhaps you fight with the rivals over territories or something? Where your influence is spread?

And the twins mention of Brazil could be a reference to an important/the final event.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Ghift on September 21, 2010, 02:06:08 pm
On the gameplay videos from TGS, you select a place for the audition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvv9CoauySc

I did wonder how that kind of island/grid system would come in, but that makes a lot of sense to me.




...also, I'm one of the few secretly hoping for 876 now that there seems to be some kind of hope in hell, but if they aren't in then I'm not going to flip my shit. |D

They know that, despite all the rage and flipping of shit, they're all going to buy the game anyway. Well played, Namco.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on September 21, 2010, 02:11:08 pm
I don't get why people are against male idols. It's not like you HAVE to produce them, and they're rivals. You'll be going AGAINST them.

Good point, Logan. If some fanboys must buy this game, it's to have a chance to murder them in cold blood.

I came across this pic (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfan.jpg), taking a scene from the manga "Kaiji" to describe the situation among iM@S fans, which I think is kind of amusing...so I tried translated it.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfanA.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfanB.jpg
lol. Hahah. That is funny. I'm actually tempted to use one of the komas there for an avatar.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 21, 2010, 04:00:23 pm
I came across this pic (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/dbscatson/imasfan.jpg), taking a scene from the manga "Kaiji" to describe the situation among iM@S fans, which I think is kind of amusing...so I tried translated it.

Jesus, the balloons are 100% perfect for the setting! I laughed so hard I almost puke! (Just finished eating something watery)

You know, rather than males, they could put 876pro idols. After all, the VAs were already paid, and their voice are not bad.

Well, Ryo is a male, but that's not the point.

Also, no matter what they say, at least Iori will be producible. I know of a person who liked iM@S just because it has Rie Kugimiya in it.

Also, like I said, the VAs were already paid
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 21, 2010, 04:07:07 pm
If some fanboys must buy this game, it's to have a chance to murder them in cold blood.

I consider this proof that Kuroi is an epic-grade villain. :V Everyone hates his idols already and they haven't even really done anything villainous. Evidently people are misplaced in their hatred of Bandai-Namco and should be hating Kuroi. In a "you're meant to hate him because he's the villain but you respect him for being awesome" sense.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 21, 2010, 04:36:09 pm
I'm not evil. I'm merely better at finding talent.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 21, 2010, 04:39:06 pm
Evidently they're just jealous.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 21, 2010, 04:39:26 pm
They are so very jelly.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 21, 2010, 07:11:58 pm
I love Ami and Mami's sections of the new Danketsu (thanks Magenta Galaxy / swiftnissity!). Those two are nuts. If Brazil is a final location in the game, that's neat...but I would've just taken it as Futami randomness XDD

Although..."you're making Ami the leader? Looks like you know what you're doing!"

Why is that in the song if we can't produce her?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 21, 2010, 07:52:23 pm
The 1/5 star reviews for im@s2 are gone: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%82%A4%E3%83%8A%E3%83%A0%E3%82%B3%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E3%82%B9-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC2-%E4%BB%AE%E7%A7%B0/dp/B003V1WILE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1285091438&sr=8-5

I think Bandai Namco had them removed.  From now on, this game is called iM@LE.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 21, 2010, 08:25:13 pm
The product images are still pretty funny XD I can't believe they don't just have a placeholder image or something.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 21, 2010, 10:46:00 pm
They're kind of badly translated, too. Especially when we start talking about the backflip, I think the translator hit the limits of their English vocabulary knowledge. XD

Let's be glad they haven't found this site yet. ^^;

... Okay, that's totally going in if they do.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 21, 2010, 10:55:27 pm
Seems like the news hasn't stopped fans from still dishing out L4U vids, this one is one of the better ones I've seen in recent time.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12176799

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on September 21, 2010, 11:01:59 pm
Am I the only one that's FOR the male idols?

Then again I'm a straight female...

I'm actually laughing hard at everyone raging so hard at this. It's just three hot men (Ok, make that two hot men and a shota) amongst a cast of what, 13 cute girls? It's not the end of the world, people.

And my god, Touma has the same hair as Hyde! *Hyde fangirl spazz attack* Hokuto looks kind of sort of like Vash-ish, but nearly enough like him for me to fangirl over him, and I don't like Shouta. Speaking of, I think it's very uncreative to name a Shota Shouta.




Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 21, 2010, 11:34:50 pm
Am I the only one that's FOR the male idols?

I am. 961 can keep them though.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 21, 2010, 11:54:40 pm
Honestly? I find the "male idol" thing awesome. ^_^ I'm siding with 961 for once, mostly because I want to be an idol myself now. XD Buuuut~ Takane's still my priority~ /sided with 961 when she worked for it, too XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on September 22, 2010, 01:47:47 am
First off, I fricking love the males idols. Hokuto~
Secondly, I wish for a PS3 type complete release version. Or at least another PsP version. Because, I lack a 360. And i'm not allowe dto go and buy a new system, especially one from Japan.
Thirdly, I would very much like it if in the options there was a subbed version.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 22, 2010, 01:59:10 am
I'm actually laughing hard at everyone raging so hard at this. It's just three hot men (Ok, make that two hot men and a shota) amongst a cast of what, 13 cute girls? It's not the end of the world, people.

13 girls of which only 9 are playable, cutting fan favourites out from the cast.

The perception going around Japanese fans is not really about whether there are male idols, it's more of believing that Azusa, Ami, Iori and Ritsuko were removed from the roster just to accommodate the male idols into the game.

Granted, a lot of them are also complaining about how NB should make a different game if they wanna have male idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 22, 2010, 03:28:36 am
I watch iDOLM@STER to see females dance and sing not a Japanese Backstreet Boys.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 22, 2010, 03:50:35 am
Shame that's what you think of them. All I see are some badass male idols tearing up the stage. What's wrong? Intimidated? I bet you are.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 22, 2010, 03:56:06 am
Shame that's what you think of them.
Theres a lot more I can think of I just can't say it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 22, 2010, 04:05:04 am
I watch iDOLM@STER to see females dance and sing not a Japanese Backstreet Boys.
I watch iDOLM@STER to see "idols" dancing and singing, now i just happen to have more variety to enjoy ;)

by the way if someone missed the smoky thrill remix =)

http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/H/so/115754
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 22, 2010, 04:14:07 am
I watch iDOLM@STER to see "idols" dancing and singing, now i just happen to have more variety to Hate ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on September 22, 2010, 04:15:57 am
what's wrong with variety? Besides, the vast majority of the im@s dances will still be by girls.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 22, 2010, 04:22:18 am
Tenchy is raging all over the place.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 22, 2010, 04:45:01 am
what's wrong with variety? Besides, the vast majority of the im@s dances will still be by girls.
Nothing's wrong with variety, just a haters gonna hate thing.
Tenchi is to Jupiter as Scotty is to Dearly Stars?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 22, 2010, 04:52:41 am
There is nothing wrong with not liking something that's fan-made.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 22, 2010, 04:54:06 am
I love Ami and Mami's sections of the new Danketsu (thanks Magenta Galaxy / swiftnissity!). Those two are nuts. If Brazil is a final location in the game, that's neat...but I would've just taken it as Futami randomness XDD

Although..."you're making Ami the leader? Looks like you know what you're doing!"

Why is that in the song if we can't produce her?
Give Magenta all the credit
I did nothing lol XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 22, 2010, 05:03:46 am
Yeah, it's okay, they only get one song and dance.

Ryo? A total of four new songs and four new dances, one of them entirely his own. Not shared with... whatever. Same goes for the Ai and Eri. 876 obviously got more love. ^^;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 22, 2010, 05:09:31 am
961: Brought back 2 idols. Gave you Overmaster, one of the better iM@S songs out there, a good rival storyline, strong PSP sales, stronger iM@S 2 sales, male idols. Just getting started.

876 fan production: A confused boy. pixels. More useless characters than a sonic series. No sales. Unless you count the half-off perma-sale a bit later after release.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: digi162 on September 22, 2010, 06:33:38 am
Change can be good, but it makes it so much harder to explain what this game is about now D:

And it was hard enough beforehand to explain I guess xD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 22, 2010, 08:14:20 am
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5139/otakuvsimas203.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/otakuvsimas203.jpg/)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 22, 2010, 08:40:45 am
Change can be good, but it makes it so much harder to explain what this game is about now D:

And it was hard enough beforehand to explain I guess xD

hmmmmm i think its about producing idols O.o in a "real-life simulated scheme"

Ohh~ the Drama of the fans~~!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 22, 2010, 08:52:08 am
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5139/otakuvsimas203.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/otakuvsimas203.jpg/)
I feel your pain Producer...........
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 22, 2010, 08:53:39 am
I think what 876 really had going for it were how interesting the characters' stories were. Ai being the seed of a teenage-pregnancy idol; Eri being an (ex) hikkikomori, and Ryo being Ryo. Gyaoooooon.

It's a bit unfortunate that we won't get to see them in HD graphics. Or ever perform on the stage in a trio...:(

Also...out of curiosity (I have no idea how 360 discs work XD), why would adding the male idols be at the cost of the 4 idols that can't be produced? It's not like they have more than one song (or, for that matter, more than one stage), and they probably don't have an insane amount of interactions (if anything, it'd probably be like how you interacted with the 961 idols in SP; when you decided to get sidetracked on your way to/from the office).

I mean, comparatively, Ryuuguu Komachi and Ricchan (would) have more costumes, songs, communications, and stuff to do in general. It doesn't seem like it's Jupiter's fault for those 4 being unplayable...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on September 22, 2010, 10:07:39 am
I consider this proof that Kuroi is an epic-grade villain. :V Everyone hates his idols already and they haven't even really done anything villainous. Evidently people are misplaced in their hatred of Bandai-Namco and should be hating Kuroi. In a "you're meant to hate him because he's the villain but you respect him for being awesome" sense.

I guess you have a point there. The only redeeming villainous trait he has right now is that he has male idols, and got the fans to jump the paranoia gun. But maybe I'm still affected by SP where Kuroi, in the end, was just a foil rather than a true antagonist in a story. So yeah, I'm hoping for a good villain in the story now.

*inb4ragewithoutdoingresearch*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foil_(literature) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foil_(literature))

Also...out of curiosity (I have no idea how 360 discs work XD), why would adding the male idols be at the cost of the 4 idols that can't be produced? It's not like they have more than one song (or, for that matter, more than one stage), and they probably don't have an insane amount of interactions (if anything, it'd probably be like how you interacted with the 961 idols in SP; when you decided to get sidetracked on your way to/from the office).

I mean, comparatively, Ryuuguu Komachi and Ricchan (would) have more costumes, songs, communications, and stuff to do in general. It doesn't seem like it's Jupiter's fault for those 4 being unplayable...

I'm not sure myself, but if anything, Jupiter's getting their share of the hate because they're guys and, henceforth, Namco will make romance subplots, a thing certain fans hate, and a newly discovered goldmine for shippers (like myself).

About the 4 not being playable, I still haven't gone far into thinking why they would do that. I'll get back on this once I have a theory.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 22, 2010, 10:25:48 am
Also...out of curiosity (I have no idea how 360 discs work XD), why would adding the male idols be at the cost of the 4 idols that can't be produced? It's not like they have more than one song (or, for that matter, more than one stage), and they probably don't have an insane amount of interactions (if anything, it'd probably be like how you interacted with the 961 idols in SP; when you decided to get sidetracked on your way to/from the office).

As far as a 360 disc goes, it wouldn't really, unless you're really pressed for space.

However, when you think of it from a company perspective, you've only got so much resources to use. The time, effort, and money you sink into these new guys will inevitably take resources away from anything else, like putting Ryuuguu idols in.

961 idols... were I think a little necessary if they were to bring the conflict straight to your face. I mean, Kuroi's a shadow character. Even if he is plain evil, he's kind of... a floating state of evilness in the world. He can't really do anything directly against your idols, since he's not one himself, so he has to get his own. When I started realizing this... I also realized that making these idols would require some time and effort on their part, and the only reason I doubted this was that I wasn't exactly sure if they'd actually sink those resources.

Though, I personally think the cost of adding in the 961 guys would be much, much less than the cost of making communications and event dialog that adding in the Ryuuguu idols would need. My stance on Ryuuguu, though, is unchanged, though: they simply didn't have the resources for all 13. They probably didn't just cut those four, either: it was an informed decision they made based on several factors, then they justified it all plot-like later. No one would make a decision that would endanger 25% of their core (emphasis on that word) fanbase if they could help it, and if forced to it, they wouldn't make it lightly.

... Although I can't imagine how it's like over at NBGI now. And I can't imagine what it was like before.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 22, 2010, 11:05:35 am
... Although I can't imagine how it's like over at NBGI now. And I can't imagine what it was like before.

"Oh well, they're still going to buy it anyway, because it's Idolmaster!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
*waits for cash to come in*

I'm one of the idiots who will still buy this game.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: hamuzou961 on September 22, 2010, 12:05:29 pm
im not against it, but after thinking about it, it makes sense for namco to introduce more rivals into the mix. specifically because it is central to the gameplay now since it seems like in most auditions you will be challenging a rival group. we cant just have ryuuguukomachi every time, and even with jupiter now it only mixes it up slightly. hopefully there are more rivals such as a 765 B team or even 876.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 22, 2010, 01:02:47 pm
Change can be good, but it makes it so much harder to explain what this game is about now D:

And it was hard enough beforehand to explain I guess xD

This + 1

One problem with male rivals is the fact that romancey stuff will inevitably appear. From arcade to SP, that "unstated obvious reason" was directed towards players. Now that they got 3 more candidates to choose....

Also, all this time I can explain "THE iDOLM@STER" as "visual novel with a lot of mini games, a lot less hentai, a lot of songs, a lot less boys"

What am I supposed to say now? "visual novel with a lot of mini games, a lot less hentai, a lot of songs and watch girls and boys argue"?

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However, when you think of it from a company perspective, you've only got so much resources to use. The time, effort, and money you sink into these new guys will inevitably take resources away from anything else, like putting Ryuuguu idols in.

They already got the models to work (we won't see them in game otherwise), the only things missing are their face in selection screen and dialogues.

Also, unless they decide to get the Jupiters as producable they don't need to develop further models (outfit) that much. Those three can be made just once, and they only have to do voice recordings for the additional content

That argument can be void for the sake of variety (you might not want to see only 3 kinds of outfit even for rivals). But then again, that means they have to develop outfits for Ryuugukomachi too (seeing as they can be counted as in-house rivals), which means the development is pretty much the same: They have to do everything for everyone.

If it comes to space, that Hard Drive could use some more content :/ it's the same thing either way
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on September 22, 2010, 01:44:43 pm
The more I see, the more I want to play this game. If people really are worried about space on the disc, I can think of a simple solution to that problem, put the game on ps3. The graphics on the ps3 are just as good, better than the 360.There is more space on the disk.To back up that argument I have an example FFXIII. On the 360. FFXIII had to be split between 3 discs. On the ps3, only one disc was necessary. Most importantly of all, the ps3 is region free. They would be tapping into a much larger market. I wonder how many Im@s fans are out there that would play it who can't obtain a jp 360, but can more easily obtain a ps3? I know I'm one.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 22, 2010, 02:50:20 pm
To back up that argument I have an example FFXIII. On the 360. FFXIII had to be split between 3 discs. On the ps3, only one disc was necessary. Most importantly of all, the ps3 is region free. They would be tapping into a much larger market. I wonder how many Im@s fans are out there that would play it who can't obtain a jp 360, but can more easily obtain a ps3? I know I'm one.

Well. 1) The 360 version wasn't entirely 'worse' than the PS3 one. It was handled badly, sure, but is disc-swapping really a big issue in this day and age? I'd have preferred it on four discs with better encoding on the FMVs. Really, the issue is the time it takes to do everything.

Certainly, recording songs, programming costumes, etc, is a lot of work. But, coming up with dialogue paths for all these characters and the way certain choices early in the game might change things later, or having them teamed up with different characters, etc, and juggling all those flags is where, IMO, the real issue begins.

An example, there's 504 possible unit combinations in im@s2 atm. If Ryuuguukomachi were producable, that'd be 1716. That's a lot of dialogue to write, mang. There's also the issue of having 'too much' content. Crazy as it sounds, you have too many playable characters and the game starts feeling like a chore to 100%.

2) Whilst we are an active and loud fanbase, the foreign im@s userbase is small and probably in the 4-digit region, maaaaybe breaking 5 if they're lucky. Certainly, they could get more sales, but it'd be a fraction of the userbase they already have and not worth catering to from a business standpoint.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 22, 2010, 03:19:34 pm
And even so, think about NBGI as a whole. There are many more tales of fans than Im@s, and yet it's still rare that we get a localized version. NBGI is just plain cruel sometimes.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: H4ataraxia on September 22, 2010, 05:44:25 pm
The more I see, the more I want to play this game. If people really are worried about space on the disc, I can think of a simple solution to that problem, put the game on ps3. The graphics on the ps3 are just as good, better than the 360.There is more space on the disk.To back up that argument I have an example FFXIII. On the 360. FFXIII had to be split between 3 discs. On the ps3, only one disc was necessary. Most importantly of all, the ps3 is region free. They would be tapping into a much larger market. I wonder how many Im@s fans are out there that would play it who can't obtain a jp 360, but can more easily obtain a ps3? I know I'm one.

I can't say how man fans agree with you, including me, but as you can see in the interview I translated 10's of pages back of the producer of the game. It's plain obvious that the company is money-hungry since they're only excuse to make IM@S xbox exclusive was that "It was the only system that was able to support HD during the time the next gen systems were released in 06/07". Unless some new guy comes in and makes a huge change and persuasion in the company like Hitler, than there's no hope.

Also the game requires you to install it on your HDD for DLC which takes up around 10GB per game, and probably more for I@MS 2.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 22, 2010, 06:23:52 pm
Heh....page 72...

Oh gosh darn it, it's gone!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 22, 2010, 08:19:27 pm
Also...out of curiosity (I have no idea how 360 discs work XD), why would adding the male idols be at the cost of the 4 idols that can't be produced? It's not like they have more than one song (or, for that matter, more than one stage), and they probably don't have an insane amount of interactions (if anything, it'd probably be like how you interacted with the 961 idols in SP; when you decided to get sidetracked on your way to/from the office).

I mean, comparatively, Ryuuguu Komachi and Ricchan (would) have more costumes, songs, communications, and stuff to do in general. It doesn't seem like it's Jupiter's fault for those 4 being unplayable...
They cant deliver all of it now, they have to sell DLC later ;)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 23, 2010, 01:00:26 am
They already got the models to work (we won't see them in game otherwise), the only things missing are their face in selection screen and dialogues.

Communications and events. I don't know if they plan on three idol communications, or three idol events, but if they do, having those four will increase the amount of stuff they have to do considerably. It's been gone over before, the amount of combinations of idol groups there are.

But, when you get down to it, if all those dialogs are like:

Point: We need the leader to say X, your leader is Haruka and she delivers it like this.
Point: 2nd idol responds to X with Y, your 2nd idol is Mami and she delivers it like this.

Then in my opinion, it's not much more expensive to include 4 more characters (and the dialog would seem pretty... hollow). If however, the dialogs, and the direction of the dialogs, are all unique (in that, say, Haruka and Chihaya both respond with different ideas, and dialogs are tailor-made to suit them), then I can kinda see exactly how much content you need.

"Oh well, they're still going to buy it anyway, because it's Idolmaster!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
*waits for cash to come in*

I'm more thinking that, with corporate politics, there's a lot of finger pointing and a lot of I-told-you-so going on. I mean, first you have to tell this to the people making the game, which also consists of fans. I mean, you saw the reaction that certain fans had, but you're telling these guys to make the exact thing that they railed against. And for those people making the game that aren't fans, you still have a PR crisis on your hands.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on September 23, 2010, 01:07:20 am
I wouldn't be suprised if the dialogs were unique depending on which characters you were producing, because that would explain why the ryuugukomachi gang was removed.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 23, 2010, 01:55:46 am
Naturally they don't want to work any harder than they absolutely have to.  ;)

In response to all the bickering about ps3 v. xbox thing, the ps3 is technically superior. But- maybe there is something that they are not telling us about their real influence to make the game on the xbox.Whatever the case, I hope a ps3 sequel/spin off is soon to come.
Also...IMO, an American translation would be terrible. I would not want another terrible translation that ruins it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on September 23, 2010, 02:12:22 am
Actually to an extent, I have already come up with a solution to an American Im@s. Whether or not it get's implemented is another story. For now, I'll stick to my story I am writing. To avoid getting off topic, I'll keep this short. My story is basically a set of brand new idols, naturally American idols.The story is set stateside so it starts here to begin with. (That reminds me. I have to get back to work on that story and introduce the first of my idols.)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 23, 2010, 02:19:58 am
Actually to an extent, I have already come up with a solution to an American Im@s. Whether or not it get's implemented is another story. For now, I'll stick to my story I am writing. To avoid getting off topic, I'll keep this short. My story is basically a set of brand new idols, naturally American idols.The story is set stateside so it starts here to begin with. (That reminds me. I have to get back to work on that story and introduce the first of my idols.)
Thank you. A loose adaptation for the American market is exactly what I had in mind.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 23, 2010, 02:36:39 am
It's exactly what I wouldn't buy.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 23, 2010, 03:28:50 am
It's exactly what I wouldn't buy.
This.

Seriously I wouldn't mind an actual US release. Just as long as they have good voice actors. But with iM@S 2, I think the chance of them doing so is gone. unless they release SP first but I don't that's how they want to do things. I mean really, the people who know nothing about will probably think of the series as Pokemon then iM@S 2 would come out and they would be like WTF?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 23, 2010, 04:22:58 am
I can't wait to produce Hilary Duff
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 23, 2010, 04:25:21 am
I can't wait to produce Hilary Duff

 That's such a negative way to look at it. Probably right, but negative nonetheless... I'd root for an adaptation, but I'd be too scared of Hannah Montanna style girls to actually do so.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 23, 2010, 04:31:01 am
It's exactly what I wouldn't buy.

I agree.

I'd go as far to say I wouldn't even take it if it was free. I love IM@S, not another pop idol or x-factor rip off.

I actually don't want to see IM@S released in the west. I changed my mind after thinking about how it would be ruined. The best solution is for them to add subtitles to the Asian (Singapore, Hong Kong and others but not Japan) release. People from all over the world can buy that if they want it, it will be understandable, and only the people who understand Anime/Japanese stuff will find it.  In other words it wont have to sit on a shelf in front of the idiots and morons who make up the majority of high st game shop visitors. Namco wont have to spend money to release it abroad (including the marketing, the certification, distro etc etc).

I think Namco are open to it also, I haven't had it confirmed but I understand the Asian release of L4U included an English paper card/ folded paper with some translated menu items on it or something - just enough to be able to work the game. I am still looking for a copy, simply because I want to support that idea - and because it would be useful.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 23, 2010, 04:49:08 am
That's such a negative way to look at it. Probably right, but negative nonetheless... I'd root for an adaptation, but I'd be too scared of Hannah Montanna style girls to actually do so.

They could always try localizing Dream Club, the objective of the game is to get girls to like you, and get them drunk. White people be all over that shit yo. I mean D3P are pretty shameless and have constantly dispensed kusoge after kusoge year after year with their Simple Series, even localizing Oneechanbara Vortex after a few years.

So, if half naked girls slaughtering zombies can get localized, I think something like Dream Club would be more likely. Especially since Agarest was also localized, which is basically an eroge with a terrible RPG system.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Kyo on September 23, 2010, 04:55:59 am
They could always try localizing Dream Club, the objective of the game is to get girls to like you, and get them drunk. White people be all over that shit yo. I mean D3P are pretty shameless and have constantly dispensed kusoge after kusoge year after year with their Simple Series, even localizing Oneechanbara Vortex after a few years.

So, if half naked girls slaughtering zombies can get localized, I think something like Dream Club would be more likely. Especially since Agarest was also localized, which is basically an eroge with a terrible RPG system.

One word: Setsu.

You can bet your ass that feminist Taliban groups, self-righteous bigots, and filthy religious zealots will be frothing at the mouth of the image of a loli-like character in skimpy clothes, getting drunk and going out with the player.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 23, 2010, 05:02:43 am
Btw, has there any news on how nbg has been takin' all the heat from the fans?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 23, 2010, 06:04:14 am
One word: Setsu.

You can bet your ass that feminist Taliban groups, self-righteous bigots, and filthy religious zealots will be frothing at the mouth of the image of a loli-like character in skimpy clothes, getting drunk and going out with the player.

Dear god I hope so
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 23, 2010, 06:53:47 am
In response to all the bickering about ps3 v. xbox thing, the ps3 is technically superior. But- maybe there is something that they are not telling us about their real influence to make the game on the xbox.

"Microsoft is paying them an awful lot of money to keep console exclusivity on the one thing keeping their console afloat in Japan"?

Cynical, moi? Mais, non.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 23, 2010, 07:29:06 am
fans gave the game a one star rating on amazon and sent various formal requests to namco asking to restore the original team and add the multiplayer again. :/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 23, 2010, 07:50:57 am
fans gave the game a one star rating on amazon and sent various formal requests to namco asking to restore the original team and add the multiplayer again. :/

Next episode preview voice mode [on]
"will namco hear their voice? or they will end up giving up all their hopes? whatever it happends the game its getting way too interesting in many ways and it havent been realeased yet."

Btw, has there any news on how nbg has been takin' all the heat from the fans?

this
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on September 23, 2010, 07:55:28 am
"Microsoft is paying them an awful lot of money to keep console exclusivity on the one thing keeping their console afloat in Japan"?

Cynical, moi? Mais, non.
Makes perfect sense when you think about it. Its kind of the same way Halo worked out for the first Xbox you had people buying Xbox's just to play Halo. In the case of The iDOLM@STER:
Quote from: Wikipedia
"Over four times as many Microsoft points were sold on the date of The Idolm@ster 360 release as on the date before it"
Dollar bills for Microsoft and huge success for NBGI. This would also explain why Ace Combat 6 (another Namco game that came out the very same year) was also an Xbox exclusive title. Unlike the iDOLM@STER, Ace Combat was not as much an earth shattering force. Which is why the newly announced Ace Combat is a multi-platform game.

Namco and Microsoft believe, based on their previous success with the iDOLM@STER, they will achieve the same result because they believe the fan base is more willing to accept exclusive titles. Which means Microsoft is willing to cash out the money to keep it that way if it means lots of Microsoft point sales.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 23, 2010, 08:35:16 am
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Then in my opinion, it's not much more expensive to include 4 more characters (and the dialog would seem pretty... hollow). If however, the dialogs, and the direction of the dialogs, are all unique (in that, say, Haruka and Chihaya both respond with different ideas, and dialogs are tailor-made to suit them), then I can kinda see exactly how much content you need.
That better be the case. You can't replace producing stagnant Iori with unique Haruka + Chihaya dialogue though :/ there's a reason someone is called a "fan".

Also, there's still that fact: The VAs were already paid. Unless Rie Kugimiya got less yen than Imai Asami, NBGI had just wasted some money

That would be void if Rie Kugimiya actually do get less than Imai Asami from the beginning though

Come to think of it...

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Namco and Microsoft believe, based on their previous success with the iDOLM@STER, they will achieve the same result because they believe the fan base is more willing to accept exclusive titles. Which means Microsoft is willing to cash out the money to keep it that way if it means lots of Microsoft point sales.
I still think that selling the dang title worldwide via total free-regionization would cash in more money than what Microsoft would pay.

Think: Microsoft won't pay so much as to suffer monetary loss only to keep Microsoft points selling. NBGI is getting less than if they sell the DLC directly. They can create iM@S points dammit, or simple PayPal stuff, whatever works.

Via total free-regionization, people outside Japan can buy the game (and subsequently, DLCs) too, cashing even more money for NBGI

But I do have to admit, this kind of game is not exactly popcorn, selling it outside Japan might not yield that much money

Also:
Producing Hannah Montana? Dear God no, please
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 23, 2010, 09:06:08 am
No western localization, no iDOLM@STER-like game (otherwise, we WOULD be producing Hannah Montana XD Provided we even got the game). I like the idea of an "Asian" release or similar; just an option for English subtitles and no region lock.

It could even be crummy subtitles (though a lack of punctuation and spelling would drive me nuts, I'd accept it).

Though, for such a region-locked game, they DID include an English instruction pamphlet with the Asian releases of iM@S SP (plus the back of the game case is in Chinese).

I know there's some suggestive dialogue in the game (particularly with Miki) as well as the fact that 12-, 13-, and 14-year olds are working in a competitive industry (like Pokemon kids aren't), iDOLM@STER is no worse than some other things we've seen. Just give it to us with English subs, NBGI ;0; Keep the voices and songs in Japanese and save yourself work there.

And, even with selling it outside of Japan not reaping a -ton- of extra moolah for them, it is still extra.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 23, 2010, 09:40:01 am
No western localization, no iDOLM@STER-like game (otherwise, we WOULD be producing Hannah Montana XD Provided we even got the game). I like the idea of an "Asian" release or similar; just an option for English subtitles and no region lock.

It could even be crummy subtitles (though a lack of punctuation and spelling would drive me nuts, I'd accept it).

Though, for such a region-locked game, they DID include an English instruction pamphlet with the Asian releases of iM@S SP (plus the back of the game case is in Chinese).

I know there's some suggestive dialogue in the game (particularly with Miki) as well as the fact that 12-, 13-, and 14-year olds are working in a competitive industry (like Pokemon kids aren't), iDOLM@STER is no worse than some other things we've seen. Just give it to us with English subs, NBGI ;0; Keep the voices and songs in Japanese and save yourself work there.

And, even with selling it outside of Japan not reaping a -ton- of extra moolah for them, it is still extra.

You're a 10 years old kid using innocent animals for your own ego to beat up grown ups so that you - yes a 10 years old kid - can kid around saying you're the fcuking strongest person in the world, so yeah I agree.

Japanese stuff should not get a dub. I've heard enough English Naruto I can puke... make it western from the very beginning like Final Fantasy X.

Suggestive? I saw a video demonstrating Chihaya and Miki don't mind being groped. I'm using the term "don't mind" very loosely here. I tip my hat that the folks at NBGI realized someone will eventually try it.

The last thing I need from NBGI is that more males make appearance. I like to have everyone in the wallpaper, and while Jupiters are not bad-looking, it certainly is a stain. Kind of like how president Obama ends the killing spree... not in a bad way mind you. I know adding more female idols will lead to fans asking for them to be producible, at which point NBGI folks might say "screw it" but still...

Think about it: you're a male, and as your cellphone's wallpaper you got 3 cel-shaded guys dancing around. That's not a great situation to dream of

EDIT: there! no more typo!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Ghift on September 23, 2010, 01:21:08 pm
It comes down to profit vs. production costs as far as I can see.

If they subtitled the game, they would still need to produce it abroad (+advertising, printing, distribution etc etc.) and if they weren't sure if the profit would add up it's not a risk they're prepared to take. If they went all out and re-voiced the characters and/or the songs they would definitely need to know that there is a paying audience and general public willing to buy it and 9001 (£/$ etc.) worth in DLC.

I can understand not localising the games in this case, because I can't see it doing well in English countries, plus a few things would end up being removed for controversy's sake. The last thing they need along with the lack of profit in an English release is people screaming at the content and putting it and the company under fire on the English side. Unfortunately, not everyone sees 3D models as 3D models these days.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 23, 2010, 01:58:41 pm
Japanese stuff should not get a sub. I've heard enough English Naruto I can puke... make it western from the very beginning like Final Fantasy X.

.... You mean dub, right? Where they actually re-voice it? And not sub, where they just add those subtitles to the bottom so we can understand it?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 23, 2010, 02:57:38 pm
.... You mean dub, right? Where they actually re-voice it? And not sub, where they just add those subtitles to the bottom so we can understand it?
Oh, yeah sorry, typo :P 's' and 'd' are neighbors on my keyboard. Will edit it at once

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If they subtitled the game, they would still need to produce it abroad (+advertising, printing, distribution etc etc.) and if they weren't sure if the profit would add up it's not a risk they're prepared to take. If they went all out and re-voiced the characters and/or the songs they would definitely need to know that there is a paying audience and general public willing to buy it and 9001 (£/$ etc.) worth in DLC.
Believe me, Japanese ideas should stay Japanese, especially in entertainment part, be it public or private

Take Ninja Storm as an example and you should understand why: Japan got ideas so unique it is weird. Trying to convert it into English version (not English subbed) is... well... idk...

American Idols won't get DLCs, that's for sure (or British idols, or Indonesian Idols, or Wherever-but-Japan Idols at that)

I heard that some people see machines as more than machines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_fetishism), so I guess seeing 3D models as more than 3D models are not that weird.

Well, it's not the only one of its kind
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 23, 2010, 03:15:11 pm
To clarify a few points since my last post, there already are Asia releases for IMAS - SP and L4U were released under the Asia region,and some did come with English items, not subs but instruction type of stuff. This is actually very common for Japanese games released in Asia, usually they include some limited instructions in Chinese and English. Initial D for the PS3 was done like this. All namco need to do is add in subs. Some Japanese companies are starting to include their own (bad) english subs on DVDs for anime and movies in Asia, its not perfect but its enough to understand it.

An international full release will cost too much, its not just about localisation, its about ratings - everything has to be approved by your country's government agency before it can be released officially, and shops cant sell things which are not rated, in the UK it has to be given a age rating for example, I don't know if/what the US does but I assume they have something similar, my point is to get a game approved, the publisher has to pay for it. Further I think there is something with the region locking related to certification, as far as I know the only "region free" Xbox games are US releases, maybe this has something to do with how the US rates/classifies things being that its an American console, ie something like "if it passes US law then its good for the world with user discretion" kind of thing? I'm not sure how Sony manage it, but someone did say something about that in another thread which i cant find atm.

Oh, yeah sorry, typo :P 's' and 'd' are neighbors on my keyboard. Will edit it at once
Believe me, Japanese ideas should stay Japanese, especially in entertainment part, be it public or private

Take Ninja Storm as an example and you should understand why: Japan got ideas so unique it is weird. Trying to convert it into English version (not English subbed) is... well... idk...

American Idols won't get DLCs, that's for sure (or British idols, or Indonesian Idols, or Wherever-but-Japan Idols at that)

I heard that some people see machines as more than machines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_fetishism), so I guess seeing 3D models as more than 3D models are not that weird.

Well, it's not the only one of its kind
I take issue with a couple of your points there, namely "Japan got ideas so unique it is weird" Every country in the world has ideas which another will call weird, or wrong or whatever. It all depends on your own personal experiences, that dosnt mean that you, or me, our nations etc have any right to say whats right or wrong or weird. If you dont like Japanese ideas, then you have some simple choices, either be careful when buying Japanese stuff, dont buy it, or accept it for what it is. That applies to other places/things/people etc as well.

One of my pet hates is how US game companies, and Anime ones, assume the world is 2 places "original location" and the US. In Japanese games they convert all the jokes and terms into US-cultural specific terms and often ruin a game or anime. Americans know what a "path" and what a "road" is, so why translate it to "sidewalk" ? especially when its actually neither, the characters are standing in the middle of the road - not the pavement/path/ thing next to it. This is why a western release would fail I think. Not to mention a translated dub of the songs wont work because the words wont rhyme any more.

As for the DLC, some US / int games come with DLC, the idea of clothes and songs for idols is a perfect example of how to make DLC work. It works in Asia for IM@S L4U and IM@S SP.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 23, 2010, 03:49:27 pm
To clarify a few points since my last post, there already are Asia releases for IMAS - SP and L4U were released under the Asia region,and some did come with English items, not subs but instruction type of stuff. This is actually very common for Japanese games released in Asia, usually they include some limited instructions in Chinese and English. Initial D for the PS3 was done like this. All namco need to do is add in subs. Some Japanese companies are starting to include their own (bad) english subs on DVDs for anime and movies in Asia, its not perfect but its enough to understand it.

An international full release will cost too much, its not just about localisation, its about ratings - everything has to be approved by your country's government agency before it can be released officially, and shops cant sell things which are not rated, in the UK it has to be given a age rating for example, I don't know if/what the US does but I assume they have something similar, my point is to get a game approved, the publisher has to pay for it. Further I think there is something with the region locking related to certification, as far as I know the only "region free" Xbox games are US releases, maybe this has something to do with how the US rates/classifies things being that its an American console, ie something like "if it passes US law then its good for the world with user discretion" kind of thing? I'm not sure how Sony manage it, but someone did say something about that in another thread which i cant find atm.
Yes, but then again, the game is Japanese. I'm not talking about the language, I'm talking about "the game was built around, and was targeted for, Japanese"

You can't, say, compare an English subtitled iM@S with English subtitled Naruto, both got different genre. People around the world like to kick each others' ass, but producing a girl that will eventually develop that "unstated obvious reason"? not many outside Japan like that idea.

Throw in Futami Twins and you've just got a rating killer.

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I take issue with a couple of your points there, namely "Japan got ideas so unique it is weird" Every country in the world has ideas which another will call weird, or wrong or whatever. It all depends on your own personal experiences, that dosnt mean that you, or me, our nations etc have any right to say whats right or wrong or weird. If you dont like Japanese ideas, then you have some simple choices, either be careful when buying Japanese stuff, dont buy it, or accept it for what it is. That applies to other places/things/people etc as well.

As for the DLC, some US / int games come with DLC, the idea of clothes and songs for idols is a perfect example of how to make DLC work. It works in Asia for IM@S L4U and IM@S SP.

I'm sorry if you are offended by my way of wording, maybe I should clarify:

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Every country in the world has ideas which another will call weird
As you already know (and posted) some of Japan's unique ideas are called "weird" by other countries. Do you see my point here? That means converting a Japanese idea for use outside of Japan could be a bad idea.

That's what I mean by "Japanese ideas should stay Japanese" and "Japan got ideas so unique it is weird. Trying to convert it into English version (not English subbed) is... well... idk..."

I was replying to a comment that was talking about re-voiced iM@S for international version (maybe not globally, one random country, whatever it is, would do). It is impossible to recreate the same experience is what I mean

When I said "American Idols won't get DLC", I mean "American Idols" (as in an American version of THE iDOLM@STER featuring... well... American girls) won't be popular enough to warrant DLCs.

Now, I know there actually is a game titled "American Idol", that game is about karaoke. I'm not talking about that one.



Okay, well I say enough OOT here. Sorry if my post offended any of you, I didn't mean any harm nor sarcasm nor whatnot that could hurt your feelings (or make you think I'm a bad guy).

Have a pleasant day (or good night, it's 8:50 PM here)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 23, 2010, 05:08:11 pm
I don't understand all this localization bickering. Let's not fool ourselves here people. One of the biggest reasons we like iM@S is because it's Japanese in the first place.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 23, 2010, 05:29:36 pm
Okay, well I say enough OOT here. Sorry if my post offended any of you, I didn't mean any harm nor sarcasm nor whatnot that could hurt your feelings (or make you think I'm a bad guy).

Have a pleasant day (or good night, it's 8:50 PM here)
[I cut the quote as its above]
Ok I think we're both actually kind of saying the same thing, and I think maybe I miss understood your previous post. I don't think your a bad guy and you haven't offended me or anything either. When I said "take issue with" I just meant as in "counter argument" as I thought you were saying something different. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

I also think IMAS as a conversion of the game wouldn't work the same way, ie a game set in NY about 3 girls wanting to make it to LA to be stars, and you have to dress them up in different clothes and songs etc - that would not appeal to the male audience at all. However, I think girls would probably love it, and I think they'd buy a lot of DLC actually The point is that you'd have to change so much to make it into that - its not Idolmaster anymore. That what I mean by it not working. That game may sell really well, but its of no interest to me.

I like the Japanese elements in games/animes, the random things like Yukiho digging holes and the like. I actually have no real interest in Idols, I like the characters, I'm interested in the story and I like the songs. If the songs were in English, and the characters were not anime style but 3d real style like FF etc, then I wouldn't be interested in it.

I think IM@S needs to be with fans who like Japanese style stuff, like Anime and JRPG fans. Try and sell it to the average gamer and its going to fail. A remake like above would get on the shelf...in the budget bottom shelf area, because they think thats all its good for. Average gamers just want to kill things, FPS and war games. Girls dont tend to be catered for, and anime fans even less. So a game which appears to be for those is dropped to the "no one cares" section. I think that's why Namco isnt going west with it. They most likely know there are fans out there like us, and I think the "Asia" release was partly meant for us as well - people who understand the cultural elements but not the language. I think Jupiter might be an attempt to slowly change direction, start by making it appeal to both genders, make them a bit older so its not so risky, maybe they are thinking of one day making it international, maybe in IM@S 3 or 4? By then it may have changed enough to work in the west more. Namco wont just be thinking about IM@S 2, they will be working on the big plan for the future - whatever that might be.

On a slightly different note, some people have said "the VAs were already paid" a few times - it doesn't work that way. The VAs must be paid royalties whenever their work is used, it doesn't matter if its the same song from 5 years ago, if its used in IM@S 2, they will have to be paid royalties - from IM@S 2.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 23, 2010, 05:52:50 pm
I don't understand all this localization bickering. Let's not fool ourselves here people. One of the biggest reasons we like iM@S is because it's Japanese in the first place.
Right. But you can bet that some of us would appreciate it if we could understand everything our idol was saying.

I have minimal Japanese knowledge, and it's easy enough to play the game without being fluent (using icomu-master for communications, anyway). But it would be nice to understand the oddball situations that Haruka gets into, or the crazy babbling of the Futami twins.

I could care less if it gets an actual western release...if they added English subtitles and took off the region lock, I'd be happy XD

actually...I'd be pretty happy if they just took of the region lock, but that's beside the point at the moment XD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 23, 2010, 05:58:22 pm
Well of course, understanding it would make some of us enjoy it more. This is obvious. What I had meant was that it's heavily Japanese. Like, you know....hmm.

Okay, take this. Would you prefer manga, or a comic? Some of us have no interest in a typical comic, and show more interest in manga because of the fact that it's Japanese. It's different. Culturally, artistically, even physically sometimes. It's what most of us like, and to have people here argue about making iM@S (manga) more american (comic) is just plain silly to me.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 23, 2010, 06:01:00 pm
Well of course, understanding it would make some of us enjoy it more. This is obvious. What I had meant was that it's heavily Japanese. Like, you know....hmm.

Okay, take this. Would you prefer manga, or a comic? Some of us have no interest in a typical comic, and show more interest in manga because of the fact that it's Japanese. It's different. Culturally, artistically, even physically sometimes. It's what most of us like, and to have people here argue about making iM@S (manga) more american (comic) is just plain silly to me.
That...I can toast to. ;D

I guess if they ever tried to American-ize it, it would be like a different game entirely just copying gameplay mechanisms. I'm fairly certain we don't have an idol system like that...unless getting your pop-star to do crazy publicity stunts and not land in jail are promotions.

Also, I'm sure it wouldn't be directed toward the same demographic anymore; they'd have to tone it down and everything because more likely than not it would be directed at young girls.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 23, 2010, 11:15:53 pm
 ... Well... Yeah, I agree, trying to Americanize it would just end up with an entirely different game. The whole idol thing in general is a pretty Japanese thing... But does that mean we can't have English subtitles in one of the game versions? Certainly it can't be that much more work for them.... Or maybe it will be and I'm grasping at straws... *Sigh*
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 24, 2010, 01:11:45 am
Even so subtitles still pose problems for people illiterate in Japanese culture.
IE. Puns (which I hate many translations for), humor, references (in the case of Dearly Stars mostly), etc.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 24, 2010, 01:16:00 am
Even so subtitles still pose problems for people illiterate in Japanese culture.
IE. Puns (which I hate many translations for), humor, references (in the case of Dearly Stars mostly), etc.

 Honestly? I'd rather have a little bit of understanding than none at all.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 24, 2010, 01:39:08 am
If Vesperia can't even see a western PS3 release, despite a localization already existing, this has no hope. It's under Namco. Maybe if this were an Idea Factory game, it would have a better chance.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 24, 2010, 01:58:09 am
Btw, has there any news on how nbg has been takin' all the heat from the fans?

There was that interview they had (linked previously right after the event), which on the Im@s main site was labeled as an Urgent Announcement. Someone could also watch the week's Im@s Station on Nico, but... the comments honestly scare me.

Also, strange and sad, the official blog has urged their fans to not slander the voice actors. Why this is going on I know, but I still can't agree with.

Also, there's still that fact: The VAs were already paid. Unless Rie Kugimiya got less yen than Imai Asami, NBGI had just wasted some money

Usually from what I understand, people are paid to do a certain amount of content as a role, not really to be the role and do everything asked of them for it. You want them to do more stuff, you'll have to pay them more.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on September 24, 2010, 02:10:59 am
If Vesperia can't even see a western PS3 release, despite a localization already existing, this has no hope. It's under Namco. Maybe if this were an Idea Factory game, it would have a better chance.
There's quite a few factors that stopped Namco from localizing it.  Getting the cast back together for all the new stuff, printing copies of a game that many already own, etc.
Note that they were a bit smarter this time and didn't release Graces yet.  Cross your fingers for Graces F.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 24, 2010, 03:37:49 am
There's quite a few factors that stopped Namco from localizing it.  Getting the cast back together for all the new stuff, printing copies of a game that many already own, etc.
Note that they were a bit smarter this time and didn't release Graces yet.  Cross your fingers for Graces F.

-CROSSES FINGERS-

well; although even if we don't get Graces F there's always import!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 24, 2010, 04:15:17 am
There's quite a few factors that stopped Namco from localizing it.  Getting the cast back together for all the new stuff, printing copies of a game that many already own, etc.
Note that they were a bit smarter this time and didn't release Graces yet.  Cross your fingers for Graces F.

They already said that they have no plans for localizing Graces F. It's like Namco of America think they can only sell Tekken to westerners.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 24, 2010, 05:23:29 am
Wow, localizing/not localizing iM@S has taken off ^^; Onto off topic.

Though, with 75 pages and counting...we'll have to make a new topic when the actual game comes out!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on September 24, 2010, 03:39:33 pm
In attempt to change the topic, I wonder what groups everyone is going to produce when this games comes out. The ryuugu komachi group essentially sabotages my go to team of Iori, Yukiho, and Makot, but I do hav a another pair I frequent to use. I used them to a two Idol unit, Chihaya and Ami. For Im@s 2, That means I would be producing Chihaya, Mami, and one other. I wonder who I should add to my dynamic duo. I think I'll give Takane a run.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 24, 2010, 04:47:31 pm
I was going to go with Hibiki/Azusa/Ritsuko.

Ahaha... haha... ha.

So, uh. Hibiki/Chihaya/Makoto it is, I guess.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 24, 2010, 06:32:50 pm
I was going to choose Yukiho/Takane/Makoto or Miki. And I think I would make Takane the Leader.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 24, 2010, 07:16:41 pm
Even though they took Ritsuko (no more dream trio of Haruka/Ami/Ritsuko XD), it doesn't interfere with the first idol group I'd produce; Haruka, Mami, and Takane~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 24, 2010, 07:35:02 pm
I'd go with Yukiho, Chihaya and Makoto :P

And I dont care if it sounds crazy, Yukiho leads lol
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 24, 2010, 07:47:24 pm
Hibiki/Takane/Makoto
or
Hibiki/Takane/Miki(old 961 vs new 961 D:)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 24, 2010, 08:10:25 pm
I wanna make Chihaya/Takane/Mami a unit, with Takane leading. Mostly because I want a group with a more mature image, in contrast to Ryuuguu Komachi's cuteness, and Mami was BEAUTIFUL in Tonari Ni...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on September 24, 2010, 10:36:20 pm
I would produce Hibiki/Makoto/Mami. They're my favorite characters anyway :P I would've chosen Takane/Iori/Miki for the lulz... oh well.

EDIT: re-worded for decreased awkwardness
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 24, 2010, 10:49:57 pm
"I wanna do [insert idols here]"

....
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 24, 2010, 10:52:28 pm
... Of course you'd take it that way, Scotty Kuroi, considering your track record.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on September 24, 2010, 11:17:27 pm
I'd like to make a unit of Yukiho, Mami, and Takane.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 24, 2010, 11:33:31 pm
"I wanna do Touma, Hokuto, and Shouta!"
:P
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on September 24, 2010, 11:47:44 pm
... In hopes to become more active on the forum, I'll post my thoughts on the whole thing.

Ryugu Komachi surprised me, but not in a bad way. I love Ami and Iori, so that was a good thing from the start. Azusa was barely doing it for me, but I think her new look and the grouping definitely bumped her up in my list a little. I'm... not too hot on the "smoking" part of the song, but it's probably my most favorite of the ones revealed so far. The three blend well, which also surprised me about the grouping.

Jupiter was also sort of shocking, but again, not in a bad way. I was sort of waiting for male idols, especially since it would bring in more female fans. I love the idea of fan pairings, but that's probably not for too many others here. I mostly approve of them being paired with each other. Touma x Hokuto = -dead-. I understand the otaku explosion on this one a little bit, especially when coming from the world of idols. Idol + boyfriend = incredibly angry wota(idol otaku, basically), which results in the firing of the idol in most cases.

I'm really excited for the game, though! ... I just sort of hope some video maker will be taking requests after it's released, because I will be desperate for my dream units to be put into a performance together.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 24, 2010, 11:55:54 pm
Well a lot of people are mad about the news but Idolm@ster 2 was the most voted game of TGS. Number 1 of the Future Game Awards. Some will leave but new persons will buy it.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on September 25, 2010, 12:49:04 am
Makoto/Hibiki/and... yukiho I guess ^^
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 25, 2010, 01:00:44 am
Well a lot of people are mad about the news but Idolm@ster 2 was the most voted game of TGS. Number 1 of the Future Game Awards. Some will leave but new persons will buy it.
The truth is, even if we get angry at what they're doing, iDOLM@STER is too addictive to leave. ;_;
Though I'm pretty good with everything they've spit out so far. I can live with male idols and Ryuuguu Komachi.
(But I swear I don't know what there is to be upset with Ryuuguu Komachi, because of the previous PVs where those idols are on stage with everyone else)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 25, 2010, 02:20:22 am
I understand the otaku explosion on this one a little bit, especially when coming from the world of idols. Idol + boyfriend = incredibly angry wota(idol otaku, basically), which results in the firing of the idol in most cases.

When you have fans who are that into the idols and then you start making them have relationships its going to hurt the fans. Remember that in the game its all about getting closer to your idol, the romance is between producer and idol. Take that to Otaku extreme and you have possession type of obsession going on.

I actually really do not want to see romantic stuff with the Idols either, I'd cry like a baby if my Yukiho waifu got taken away by some smug flashy male idol. <-- this where the Jupiter hate comes from.

It actually dosnt matter what Jupiter do, if Jupiter do nothing at all, ie even if they are gay or something, if the girl idols start drooling over them, that alone is enough to really make the fans mad - just because the idol no longer sees producer-san as the only person in her life.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 25, 2010, 02:53:00 am
Hmm I'll probably produce Haruka/Yayoi/Hibiki or Haruka/Yayoi/Makoto or Miki/Takane/Hibiki
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 25, 2010, 03:26:49 am
Hibiki/Miki/Takane

Takane leading

961 Pro forever :)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 25, 2010, 03:27:58 am
Well... I can't produce Azusa.

So, what I'm thinking right now is Yukiho/Haruka/Makoto. Not sure who'd the leader'll be. Preferred guests? Azusa, of course. Other than her... not sure. Maybe Chihaya.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on September 25, 2010, 04:01:29 am
Well, seeing as I can't produce Azusa, I'd definitely have a Makoto/Yukiho/Miki trio unit.

Anything new while I was offline? I've been without power for a couple of days, thanks to hurricane Igor.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 25, 2010, 04:24:55 am
>Hurricane Igor

>Cat. 1

>still calls it a 'hurricane'
Title: I've uploaded subbed 4th PV
Post by: domelola on September 25, 2010, 04:54:03 am
Hi guys,

This is domelola from youtube

I've uploaded the subbed 4th PV of im@s2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCb8kolxV8

Check it out.


The signature campaign against the new setting of im@s2 was lauched.
If you understand Japanese language, please join it...
It seems around 7000 people have already singhed

http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 25, 2010, 05:03:40 am
I wonder if NBGI would actually revoke Ryuuguu Komachi after having announced it, costumes for it, and a song for it...

I'll (admittedly) pass on signing it, because I don't mind Ryuuguu Komachi. I rather like their costumes, and Smoky Thrill ;D I do almost wish that they'd have made it a system where it randomly picks 3 idols you aren't producing, but when I think about it, that'd add some serious complications to the game, I think.
edit: Though, Ritsuko would still be left out of it all  :-\
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on September 25, 2010, 05:30:28 am
I'm sort of disappointed that people actually want to remove the idea. It's something slightly new, and while you can't produce the characters, they ARE still in the game, and will most likely appear on a "free stage" type mode. :/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on September 25, 2010, 05:40:07 am
I do almost wish that they'd have made it a system where it randomly picks 3 idols you aren't producing, but when I think about it, that'd add some serious complications to the game, I think.
Nah. I doubt such a system would do that.

I wonder if NBGI would actually revoke Ryuuguu Komachi after having announced it, costumes for it, and a song for it...

Nah. Knowing Namco, they probably won't. But I'm pretty sure they're not gonna go with not letting them be producable in any way (not after we see those dances with the selectable characters, they're not).

After all, we may not be so sure that Namco has been doing everything according to their plan. And we're all suckers for it.....
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: zeda12123 on September 25, 2010, 05:59:34 am
I honestly think people are getting far to worked up. Have try and have the game pushed back another couple moths then just live with somesort of office mode. Yes, I would be mad about Makoto not being producable, but she's not the only idol I like. It's like the boys fangirls being mad because they can't be proiduced, then signing a petition to ry and get them produced.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 25, 2010, 07:31:05 am
Interesting, I was just reading through the petitions.

Most people just don't seem to like the idea of not being able to produce Komachi, followed by the existence of Jupiter.
How they'll use CD sales to measure popularity of characters and how they'll cast them in future CDs is another point people are concerned about.

Overall, seems like people are mad about Im@s constantly mentioning "unity" when Im@s 2 is taking a step way back from the concept of unity.


Not many seem to care about the lack of online auditions, which is like the only point I'm really concerned about Im@s 2.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 25, 2010, 08:50:25 am
As far as iM@S' concept of unity...well, the game is still region-locked. That is all I have to say. *shot*

By the way, slightly off topic from the petition; I got pretty used to it after hearing the new songs so much (PVs .mp3-ified for my listening pleasure), but they added a considerable amount more from the audience.

Like, in Alice or Guilty, they go into (fangirly) shouts what, 5 times? Once before and after the stage itself, and then a few in the middle of the song as well. Same with Smoky Thrill; Once before and after, and 3 times during the song. Wonder what the extra crowd noise is for. A more realistic stage?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 25, 2010, 01:48:35 pm
Not many seem to care about the lack of online auditions, which is like the only point I'm really concerned about Im@s 2.

You too?

I mean, as much as I want to produce Azusa, well... opinions above, and someone's gotta take the hit. Why they changed the Auditions... well, I know that they believe most people don't want to play against someone, but you didn't have to in 1 either, though if you wanted you could.

The gamer in me is a bit sad.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Ghift on September 25, 2010, 03:06:00 pm
Has anyone stopped to think about the plot in regards to Ryugu Komachi?

There's potentially every chance that the plot of the game will do something which would make them playable or make single idols from it producible then again i could be talking nonsense.

We don't really know how likely that is considering as far as I'm aware they've been focusing on annoying the fans rather than explaining the plot, minus focus on the leader.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RhaXiel on September 25, 2010, 10:20:24 pm
Has anyone stopped to think about the plot in regards to Ryugu Komachi?

There's potentially every chance that the plot of the game will do something which would make them playable or make single idols from it producible then again i could be talking nonsense.

something like: Producer: "Ryu-kom lets beat those 961 once and for all, please lend me your strength. lets keep this world peaceful clean of male idols"

"ryu-kom Idols": hmmmmmm okay.

*ryu-kom joins the party*

--Achievement unlocked: the world is all one! <or something like that>--

then I could be talking nonsense too...
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 26, 2010, 12:01:11 am
something like: Producer: "Ryu-kom lets beat those 961 once and for all, please lend me your strength. lets keep this world peaceful clean of male idols"

"ryu-kom Idols": hmmmmmm okay.

*ryu-kom joins the party*

--Achievement unlocked: the world is all one! <or something like that>--

then I could be talking nonsense too...

I was thinkin the same exact thing.

"we need to work together if we want to be 961!"
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 26, 2010, 01:18:28 am
If the achievements are anything like the first game they're going to take me years to get
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 26, 2010, 07:50:22 pm
something like: Producer: "Ryu-kom lets beat those 961 once and for all, please lend me your strength. lets keep this world peaceful clean of male idols"

"ryu-kom Idols": hmmmmmm okay.

*ryu-kom joins the party*

--Achievement unlocked: the world is all one! <or something like that>--

then I could be talking nonsense too...

And then there's a secondary pick-your-idol screen...though I guess it wouldn't work if you already have 5 idols in your unit. :(

Though I still wonder if you can produce 4-idol groups. Some of the dances would look weird with 4...well, The world is all one!! would.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 27, 2010, 10:36:29 am
Ok, ok, so. The Japanese fanbase has a petition going, hoping that Namco will 1) listen to them and 2) remove male idols, and create routes for Komachi and 3) add online battles, like the first 360 game.

http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html

They are dreaming.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 27, 2010, 11:08:24 am
Ok, ok, so. The Japanese fanbase has a petition going, hoping that Namco will 1) listen to them and 2) remove male idols, and create routes for Komachi and 3) add online battles, like the first 360 game.

http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html

They are dreaming.
Well, at least the online gameplay is a reasonable request...that doesn't require them to cancel using models and voice actors they've already created and assigned (respectively ^^;), or pull apart the storyline at the seams and create 4 characters' worth of differernt material before February 2011.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: airgeneralpong on September 27, 2010, 03:26:59 pm
2) create routes for Komachi
I somehow believe they already plan on something like that, may be even without the fan protest, but fan's reaction surely stimulate the idea.
I don't think they would remove male idols since they've already invest some money on them.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 27, 2010, 03:49:40 pm
Ok, ok, so. The Japanese fanbase has a petition going, hoping that Namco will 1) listen to them and 2) remove male idols, and create routes for Komachi and 3) add online battles, like the first 360 game.

http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html

They are dreaming.

Japanese people are crazy. I can understand them wanting Iori, Ami, Azusa, and Ritsuko to be produceable which I hope they would do. But somehow, I doubt that they are going to get rid of the male idols from project Jupiter, which is fine, As long as Touma stays away from Yukiho that is!
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 27, 2010, 07:39:42 pm
To NBGI, removing Jupiter is a lot more trouble than putting Ryuugukomachi in, even if they have already made something for those 4. Those hard work making sure the damn guys are awesome-looking would be in vain. That means swearing modellers and animators

Seeing as how they're the whole reason THE iDOLM@STER was made in the first place, I won't be calling them crazy :/ but yeah... they're dreaming too far
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Magenta Galaxy on September 27, 2010, 11:02:55 pm
Bam! Sub for PV3 which, IIRC, hasn't been subbed yet? <_> I could be wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOGsiBrVjM

HD DDL: http://www.multiupload.com/7OKS80030R
SD DDL: http://www.multiupload.com/8R9IV673TD

What's left now, just 2? I kind of want to do our own ver of 4 first just because Smoky Thrill is such a challenging song to translate (I've avoided watching domelola's sub just so I don't end up stealing anything. Kinda defeats the point if I do considering the nature of the exercise. XD)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 27, 2010, 11:45:37 pm
Bam! Sub for PV3 which, IIRC, hasn't been subbed yet? <_> I could be wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOGsiBrVjM

What's left now, just 2? I kind of want to do our own ver of 4 first just because Smoky Thrill is such a challenging song to translate (I've avoided watching domelola's sub just so I don't end up stealing anything. Kinda defeats the point if I do considering the nature of the exercise. XD)

Will edit this post with DDL links once I'm done encoding/uploading.

Edit: HD DDL: http://www.multiupload.com/7OKS80030R
Awesome subs :D I think that this was skipped over in the eyes of most subbers, since The iDOLM@STER has been subbed before from the first game...I appreciate you doing it (now I finally know what that guy's saying at the beginning!) and I like your translation of the song. Runs smoother and makes more sense than what I've seen before XD
With that note, I look forward to seeing Smoky Thrill :3
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 28, 2010, 01:24:02 am
Ok, ok, so. The Japanese fanbase has a petition going, hoping that Namco will 1) listen to them and 2) remove male idols, and create routes for Komachi and 3) add online battles, like the first 360 game.

http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html

They are dreaming.
wait no online battles? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

jk. But seriously...if you don't like it, learn how to develop your own game and make an Idolm@ster Dearly Stars sequel.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Picup on September 28, 2010, 03:27:16 am
wait no online battles? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

jk. But seriously...if you don't like it, learn how to develop your own game and make an Idolm@ster Dearly Stars sequel.

Funny how you mentioned that while I was watching this... (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12213265)

Thanks for the subs Magenta 8D;

And I'm not sure if it was posted here or not, but were there raws of PV 3-5 posted? (in glorius HD lol)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 28, 2010, 03:29:44 am
And I'm not sure if it was posted here or not, but were there raws of PV 3-5 posted? (in glorius HD lol)

BTW. if someone dont have them already or they havent been posted yet:

3rd PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-3_765pro_2ndmix_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
4th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-4_765pro_smoky_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)
5th PV 60fps (http://file.4gamer.net/movie/20100918_imas2_pv-5_961pro_alice_MPEG4-AVC_60fps-16M.zip)

uhhh... enjoy :D
So many updates, it gets easy to miss this stuff D:
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 28, 2010, 04:23:53 am
Funny how you mentioned that while I was watching this... (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12213265)
I Support Ryo in HD And Ai's Mum.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 28, 2010, 04:28:40 am
And I'm not sure if it was posted here or not, but were there raws of PV 3-5 posted? (in glorius HD lol)

I have setup an IMAS 2 video DL page on my site, with all the HQ PVs and also Magenta's sub. I'll add in more if/when they come out, but I can add in another IMAS vids if anyone needs/wants a place to put them thats not youtube. Page is here (http://www.maikuando.tv/series.php?series=THE_iDOLM@STER_2_Game).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 28, 2010, 04:35:03 am
I Support Ryo in HD And Ai's Mum.

Doujinshi can't be in HD. Those who make them are just not talented enough.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neko-P on September 28, 2010, 04:37:51 am
Doujinshi can't be in HD. Those who make them are just not talented enough.

 You say that like you don't want it to happen. Or like it would be a bad idea.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on September 28, 2010, 04:43:15 am
Doujinshi can't be in HD. Those who make them are just not talented enough.
876 > 961
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on September 28, 2010, 05:06:01 am
Not to NBGI.

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 28, 2010, 06:30:42 am
wait no online battles? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

jk. But seriously...if you don't like it, learn how to develop your own game and make an Idolm@ster Dearly Stars sequel.

Not like anyone here cares. I think a grand total of... what, 5 people? have experienced online battles on this site, with the im@s game for 360, myself included. And if you're going for S rank, you don't want online battles, you just need to refresh National for hours on end for the 7万 Idol Vision.

But yeah, this imas2 ordeal is serious. I have a Japanese friend who is very upset about it, some of the L4U top 20 players are now showing "offline" (which means they've turned privacy settings on), hatima is ending hatimasu... shit is getting real.

Personally I don't care about the changes, but only because they left Yayoi in tact. It was like they approached the situation trying to figure out how to improve Yayoi, realized that it's physically impossible, and moved on.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on September 28, 2010, 06:43:10 am
Ok, ok, so. The Japanese fanbase has a petition going, hoping that Namco will 1) listen to them and 2) remove male idols, and create routes for Komachi and 3) add online battles, like the first 360 game.

http://www.shomei.tv/project-1606.html

They are dreaming.

I'd doubt they'd remove Jupiter, and they probably have thought about doing so for Komachi and online battles. I bet they wouldn't risk so much on changing the game feel.

To NBGI, removing Jupiter is a lot more trouble than putting Ryuugukomachi in, even if they have already made something for those 4. Those hard work making sure the damn guys are awesome-looking would be in vain. That means swearing modellers and animators

Seeing as how they're the whole reason THE iDOLM@STER was made in the first place, I won't be calling them crazy :/ but yeah... they're dreaming too far

Agreed, but only on the dreaming part. They could've made any rival idols from any company (they can come up with a new one off the bat if they wanted to) but chose to have male idols for the same reason some fans are asking for their removal. Romance, hence, shipping.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Sev on September 28, 2010, 07:47:52 am
But yeah, this imas2 ordeal is serious. I have a Japanese friend who is very upset about it, some of the L4U top 20 players are now showing "offline" (which means they've turned privacy settings on), hatima is ending hatimasu... shit is getting real.

What has me worried is that some fan might just snap and try to pull hostages at NGBI demanding changes be made. Kinda like what happened recently with the Discovery Channel after someone got upset with the networks programing. If someone can be motivated to pull a stunt like that over educational television think how much worse it could get over a popular game series.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 28, 2010, 10:05:28 am
What has me worried is that some fan might just snap and try to pull hostages at NGBI demanding changes be made. Kinda like what happened recently with the Discovery Channel after someone got upset with the networks programing. If someone can be motivated to pull a stunt like that over educational television think how much worse it could get over a popular game series.

I would love to see something like this happen. Namco Bandai are one of the shittiest companies around.

This ordeal is really getting on my nerves, though. My friend won't enjoy the new Steins;Gate DLC (which adds crap from the PC version) because Christina (girl in my avatar) is voiced my Asami Imai who voices Chihaya, which reminds him of iM@S, which reminds him of iM@S2 and current affairs.

It seems like many people are jumping the boat from im@s to Dream Club.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 28, 2010, 10:05:49 am
Funny how you mentioned that while I was watching this... (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12213265)

Bandai Namco's next April Fools' joke. ^^

... But then, it might become real!

But yeah, this imas2 ordeal is serious. I have a Japanese friend who is very upset about it, some of the L4U top 20 players are now showing "offline" (which means they've turned privacy settings on), hatima is ending hatimasu... shit is getting real.

Okay, I was wondering exactly how things were going over there. When your core fanbase, especially when it includes the most diehard of them, are dissatisfied, that means you no longer have a fanbase. Also, the game has the reputation of being the one that caused said diehard fans to leave.

A game without a core fanbase is subject to the whims and the short term memory of current trends, without anyone to keep it alive past the first few months it is released.

... Though it's somewhat amusing that some comments I've seen go along the lines of: as the last game in the original timeline, Im@sDS is our last hope! It needs a sequel now! Save us 876!!!

Heh, heh... ^^;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 28, 2010, 10:50:19 am
Well considering the guy who made Dearly Stars was fired indirectly for how poor Dearly Stars did and was received, I don't see any DS version any time soon. You make a game and it does poorly, and you get offed because of it. It's cruel, but that's business for you.

If we start nitpicking over the new danketu, Yukiho is usually shy and it strikes me as weird that she would say anything publicly about boys. And then suddenly, male idols! Yeah, that is not going to go down well.

I never cared for Ami because her voice is like listening to a car motor running at full but her talking about boys makes sense to me. As does Miki, because well, she's Miki.

I will still buy it so long as Chihaya and Yayoi are left alone. Otherwise I will buy Dream Club Zero instead and continue to play L4U.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Aya Kyunik on September 28, 2010, 11:40:34 am
Personally I don't care about the changes, but only because they left Yayoi in tact. It was like they approached the situation trying to figure out how to improve Yayoi, realized that it's physically impossible, and moved on.

I'm in the same line of thinking. I know a few friends who are complete astounded about the changes, but that's because Bamco touched their favourites.

As long as Yayoi is good to go, I'm game :3
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 28, 2010, 04:42:26 pm
Well considering the guy who made Dearly Stars was fired indirectly for how poor Dearly Stars did and was received, I don't see any DS version any time soon. You make a game and it does poorly, and you get offed because of it. It's cruel, but that's business for you.

If we start nitpicking over the new danketu, Yukiho is usually shy and it strikes me as weird that she would say anything publicly about boys. And then suddenly, male idols! Yeah, that is not going to go down well.

I never cared for Ami because her voice is like listening to a car motor running at full but her talking about boys makes sense to me. As does Miki, because well, she's Miki.

I will still buy it so long as Chihaya and Yayoi are left alone. Otherwise I will buy Dream Club Zero instead and continue to play L4U.

They were too ambitious about DS's capabilities and fans' tolerance, emphasize on fans' tolerance

Shit will be real once the real fans break the real DVDs, like this:
(http://img4.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/cache/77440__468x_idolmaster-2-bishonen-debut-010.jpg)

Seriously, there are just too much change in iM@S 2. No more Yurina Hase, guys and lost 4 idols out of the box.

I'd say that they take "THE iDOLM@STER must go on!" slogan too seriously :/
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 28, 2010, 06:01:27 pm
Yurina Hase left because she was having issues, right? Didn't she get death threats or something? I think that's a pretty acceptable reason to resign...that isn't NBGI's fault, and Yukiho can't just go voiceless. I think saying "Yurishii is gone, iDOLM@STER is officially worse!" is a little harsh on her...

Also, Azumin isn't the script-writer for Yukiho...so that is NBGI's fault. I think Asakura Azumi really doesn't get enough credit for the job she does as Yukiho. She's not the same as Yurishii's Yukiho, but I don't think we could've asked for something better with Yurishii gone.

I never cared for Ami because her voice is like listening to a car motor running at full but her talking about boys makes sense to me. As does Miki, because well, she's Miki.
Sorry, had to say it; Ami says nothing about boys, Mami does.
Unless by boys you mean "lolicon" XDD
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Pizzaman on September 28, 2010, 07:19:51 pm
Oh hi, there's going to be another interview with Director-1 in this months issue of ゲーマガ, which kinda got leaked online already.

Pretty much Director-1 waffling about shit we know already, and I'm beginning to think it'll be best if he was fired, for the sake of Im@s.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on September 28, 2010, 11:33:39 pm
I think there is reason to be unhappy about IMAS2, if it had been my favourite which was un produceable i'd be really unhappy as well. I think the lack of multi-player is a bit crappy when it had it before.

I have no problem with jupiter, i like them. the song was good, and i think it makes a decent adversary in the game.

The Yukiho situation bothers me a lot however, and I think a few people dont quite understand why. I think generally speaking, no one has anything against the new VA as a person, the problem is simply "its not Hase" in other words, she dosnt sound the same - that is the issue - its not why/how or any of that, its simply that Yukiho fans liked Hase's voice - that was a big part of what yukiho is. For anyone who is not a Yukiho fan, you dont notice the voice, you think its the same - i'm sorry, but its not. Thats nothing against the new VA, but if you like a certain singer in a band or a solo artist, if you swap them for someone else, no matter how great they are, its not the person you like, its not the sound you liked. That is the problem. I also think that the new graphics dont help, because at the same time she now sounds different and looks different at once, so shes changed too much for fans to just ignore, had it been just one it might have been ok, but both at once is too much of a change to not be reminded of every time.

I dont own an xbox, and now my priority in this is to get an xbox and buy IMAS1 and L4U and the DLC i want before they stop it. Not IMAS2. I will get IMAS2, but my "IMAS love" is in/for the old games - the videos i have been seeing on youtube, that funny, shy, quiet girl who digs holes. I came to like IMAS from youtube vids of the old games, had I been given just imas 2 videos, i dont think it would have got me hooked so much, Yukiho just isn't so cute any more, she's just not the same.

I think its the same type of thing as love in a way, like in those stories where a person falls in love with a girl, then they are forced apart for a long time and then reunited, even though its the same person, they are really in love with that girl from years ago, not the one in front of them. My point is this, when the heart shapes to a certain key, no matter what your mind says, anything but the original, even if its just a memory, simply doesn't fit. No one can fix it, or change it, that's just how it is. I think all things with human emotion are like that, be it favourite music, a person's face, or the love of your life, anything but the exact thing which caused the original emotion simply isn't enough to do it again.

As for the "i like men" line in denkatsu, well that's just plain stupid, I don't believe anyone that shy would ever make such a mistake, her shyness would sub-consciously prevent her doing such a thing. A word-slip like that is when your really thinking about something else and you say the word on your mind not the word you meant to say, that basically means they are saying Yukiho was thinking about men/boys when she was talking. That is what me and all the other fans are super pissed about, Yukiho wouldn't do that, and now there's male idols, it stinks of namco trying for a romance story. Its out of character, and the fact they changed the line in the song, it means its a forced character change.

Thats where most of this rage is coming from. The other fans, ie the ones for the removed idols have basically attached to that notion, and are thinking that similar silly ideas are due for their favourites too.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on September 29, 2010, 12:59:49 am
Well I think in order to play this game you'll have to have a clear and open mind to the characters as if you've never seen them before.
Maybe that's why they're purposely killing off their fanbase so they can have a fresh start. (For whatever reason)

Also, like in the upcoming release of Portal 2, the writers probably wanted to kill some things they didn't like (In Portal they are killing the cake meme which they much dislike).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 29, 2010, 07:45:58 am
I think the only character you'd really need an open mind for is Yukiho, as her voice is a little different. It seems like the other characters (personality-wise) stayed mostly the same.

I just think it's a little ridiculous that fans make it seem like everything is wrong with iM@S2. Yukiho's voice actor is different. We have a rival in the same production company. There are male idols.

NBGI hasn't done anything to suggest that Jupiter will immediately swarm into your office and start seducing your idol. Fans did that, but it's to be expected because fans can ship anything that comes in quantities of more than 1.

Yukiho's new voice can't be helped; Yurishii quit. And they're doing the best that they can given the fact that they had to give Yukiho a new voice...it's better than her being out of the game because of the aforementioned fact.
edit: I know Yukiho is different now; there's nothing wrong with still loving the old Yukiho. But you can either keep with her now, or choose a new favorite. She'll exist as she always did in the old games, but she has to be changed for the new one. There isn't another way unless they remove her entirely.

A friend of mine came up with the idea that Ryuuguu Komachi exists because of the new commu system; as with 9 idols, there's a possibility of 84 different trio combinations, which would all branch into, without a doubt, specific responses and such with different trios. Add the 4 idols removed; then there's 286 possible. That'd be a lot of work for the CVs.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on September 29, 2010, 08:21:36 am
I don't know about you guys, but I'm glad that we finally have male idols. That way, girls can join in on the fun too, and Idolm@ster will no longer be branded by outsiders as "that game where you molest underage female idols," lol.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Raestloz on September 29, 2010, 10:03:08 am
@TweenDoriru
Seiyuus are the actual life of any voiced characters. Different seiyuu = different person, no matter what happened

It can't be helped, yes, but the other stuffs made it worse.

@Lushe: it doesn't make it easier to explain this game to those who don't understand, the core is still the same. I find it hard to answer when people ask "What music are you listening to? What is the band? I've never heard about it, what is it?" to me.


Also, the ratio of fanboys : fangirls in japan is not good. There are more existing fanboys than untapped fangirls.

Lastly, I don't like the new Chihaya, her head is just too round
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Lushe on September 29, 2010, 10:09:40 am
Well, out of all the "negative" things about im@s2, only one really upsets me: the fact that Ritsuko, Azusa, Iori, and Mami (or was it Ami? I'm not sure) are now rivals.

Other than that, I'm fine with Jupiter and Yukiho's new VA.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: SalemJeanette on September 29, 2010, 10:55:26 am
Pros:
1.Now you can produce Hibiki and Takane
2.New Miki and Iori Hairstyle, also one of the twins now has long hair and they dont act as one =)
3.New Makoto deserves her own point
4.Jupiter
5.Ryuugu Komachi outfits =)(plus being a separate team could lead to interesting things)
6.Better graphics

Cons:
1.RIP Yukiho
2.Online
3.Not being able to produce Ryuugu Komachi(i hope this isnt true)
4.Those yellow outfits
5.Region locked (╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 29, 2010, 11:38:23 am
I wouldn't put Jupiter in the pro section, it's more 50/50 at this point.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on September 29, 2010, 11:54:56 am
How do we explain what Idolmaster is?

... Take Monster Rancher, remove monsters. Replace with idols and good music.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on September 29, 2010, 12:55:28 pm
Also costumes.

Come to think of it, I've bought a LOT of DLC (which is still incomplete..) but the punkish gothic one has to be the best. I just wish everyone didn't associate it with Haruka, since the other idols have custom made costumes under punkish gothic too.

Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 29, 2010, 02:39:25 pm
Pros:
1.Now you can produce Hibiki and Takane
2.New Miki and Iori Hairstyle, also one of the twins now has long hair and they dont act as one =)
3.New Makoto deserves her own point
4.Jupiter
5.Ryuugu Komachi outfits =)(plus being a separate team could lead to interesting things)
6.Better graphics

Cons:
1.RIP Yukiho
2.Online
3.Not being able to produce Ryuugu Komachi(i hope this isnt true)
4.Those yellow outfits
5.Region locked (╬ ಠ益ಠ)

Don't believe that's confirmed yet.

Though it doesn't affect those of us with a Japanese console <3

But still, I don't believe its been confirmed as region locked.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 29, 2010, 06:08:26 pm
True; 360's are region locked because of the actual disc, and not the console, right?

Though, the chances of it not being region locked seem slim...though, hey. With all of the fan complaining, it could expand their sales audience (even though people everywhere else are complaining about the same stuff).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on September 29, 2010, 07:21:03 pm
Well if what I heard is true, supposedly they originally intended on the game being released overseas ( Apparently it was an interview in relation to Miki where it was said if memory serves me correct? ).

If that was indeed true, perhaps they region locked it for that reason. Thus since no one picked up the game they may release it without the region lock to spread the name of the game, thus increasing the chances it will be picked up. If I recall, a similar thing happened with Fire Emblem. The characters gained popularity through the Super Smash Bro's series even though they still spoke Japanese and such, thus they localised the games.

Also after reading some stuff, I begun to wonder.
Is it possible that the Japanese fans are only pissed at the boys cause it seems like they are the only ones given any kinda of.......'sexual' vibe? I remember in the original, it was a bad response but you could touch the characters inappropriately and dress them in a somewhat showy nature. But for Idolm@ster 2, all we've gotten so far is the boys sexual hip movements
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by_eIKGFqco&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by_eIKGFqco&feature=related) at 2:55

and recently in the updated Danketsu
Quote
Miki:
"Miki's name is Hoshii Miki!
I'm 15 years old, so I can get married now~!
I've been really working hard as an idol lately
Now I only nap 5 times a day! ...afuuu....

Eh?! Y-You want me to take the lead all of a sudden?
Oh Honey, you're such a perv... Aha!
"
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: iDOL15 on September 29, 2010, 09:17:22 pm
I don't have a problem whatsoever. As long as they don't completely write off the main cast and keep releasing music they own my life (and wallet).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Haldo on September 29, 2010, 10:07:37 pm
A friend of mine came up with the idea that Ryuuguu Komachi exists because of the new commu system; as with 9 idols, there's a possibility of 84 different trio combinations, which would all branch into, without a doubt, specific responses and such with different trios. Add the 4 idols removed; then there's 286 possible. That'd be a lot of work for the CVs.
That's what I was trying to say before.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: blake307 on September 29, 2010, 10:09:09 pm
I don't really have anything negative to say about the game except that you can't produce Ryugu komachi. I really think they should give you an option to produce the Ryugu Komachi (which probably won't happen).
I don't mind Yukiho's new VA too much. I know it sounds way different from her old VA, but Yukiho will always be my favorite idol regardless.  :)

I got to say I like the costumes for Ryugu Komachi and Miki's and Mami's new looks. I also like that you can produce Takane now.

I personally don't really like Azusa's short hair that much. She still looks good but I still think she looked better with long hair.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on September 29, 2010, 11:56:26 pm
I don't mind Yukiho's new VA too much. I know it sounds way different from her old VA, but Yukiho will always be my favorite idol regardless.  :)
I wish more people were like you XD
I got to say I like the costumes for Ryugu Komachi and Miki's and Mami's new looks. I also like that you can produce Takane now.
The Ryuuguu Komachi costumes are really great. Favor them in general over the Cute & Girly ones XD I think it's kinda like we got 3 idols; Takane, Hibiki, and Mami. I can't wait for the twins to actually be on stage together~
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on September 30, 2010, 12:43:17 am
In regards to Yukiho's new VA, I'm okay with her. When I heard the side by side comparison, I thought the new one sounded a little less breathy. I contribute that to Yukiho having been at 765 for a while and growing a little more confident while on stage. To venture off topic a little, I'm going through a similar evolution. My stage confidence is growing with each performance. I guess that is why I empathize with Yukiho as a character. Getting back on track, Yukiho(and I) has gained more confidence on stage, while in private she(and I) is still the same shy person we know and love.

In regards to the ryugu komachi, although I am a little upset that Iori-hime won't be immediately producible, I am flexible. Having to work to produce my Iori-hime will make the experience all the sweeter.

In regards to Jupiter, those boys blew me away. I am now a firm supporter of 961 because of them. Well done, Kuroi-shachou. Well done! The new boys add a nice bit of both freshness and variety to the game. I can't help but wonder if namcobandai has any other wild cards to throw our way.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on October 01, 2010, 12:24:30 am
I hope that one of the next things that they show us isn't necessarily something so shocking; I want to see what the Cosmic & Funny stage outfits look like.

...well, I hope there still is Cosmic & Funny. I love those costumes :)

The release of the game is still pretty far away...I wonder how much they'll actually show us before the game comes out.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Logan on October 01, 2010, 12:34:18 am
If they have Cosmic & Funny costumes again, I hope that they add even more flashing lights to them. XD;;
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: animagic4u on October 01, 2010, 01:02:08 am
Speaking of costumes, I hope the ryugu komachi outfits will become unlockable like the Project Fairy ones.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on October 01, 2010, 01:14:46 am
I really like the idea of the Ryuuguu Komachi costumes being unlockable...I like the idea of RK-style costumes in general. Having all of 765Pro in those costumes would be great :D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on October 01, 2010, 08:22:15 am
http://company.nikkei.co.jp/index.aspx?scode=7832
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on October 01, 2010, 08:24:27 am
http://company.nikkei.co.jp/index.aspx?scode=7832
Bandai Namco Holdings, present value...765?

This is all planned, isn't it >.>
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Benpc91 on October 01, 2010, 10:10:31 pm
Screen-capped in case anyone misses it.
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4026/765holdings.png)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: swiftnissity on October 02, 2010, 11:28:56 am
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/10/02/8500-idolmaster-otaku-unite-give-us-back-our-girls/ (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/10/02/8500-idolmaster-otaku-unite-give-us-back-our-girls/)
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: gyrobot on October 02, 2010, 06:25:58 pm
Meh, I am all for Jupiter, technically they are supposed to fill in the "Rival" group after Project Fairy "merged" with 765. Either way, here is to a potentially happy future for Takane/Miki/Hibiki with whichever member of Jupiter they decide to go out with.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Neruibara on October 02, 2010, 06:33:18 pm
That is definitely something I am looking forward to. When I get a chance to play this game, I am going to reunite project fairy and send them head to head against project jupiter.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on October 02, 2010, 06:36:45 pm
I wonder if it's too worth petitioning for...people make it out like you can't use the idols in the game at all. Like...suddenly, *poof!* -- Iori, Ami, Azusa, and Ritsuko are no longer iDOLM@STER characters in any way, shape, or form. Bye guys :3c

Sure, it might interrupt one's ideal produce group, but you can still use them in the game somewhere because they were on stage with everyone else in the PVs *facepalm*

I really don't think they'd vanquish Ryuugu Komachi because of an online petition. If they were to think about it...well, I think they may need more than 8,500 people. (a petition I saw to get some manga anime-ized required at least 10,000).
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cael K. on October 02, 2010, 06:56:56 pm
Sure, it might interrupt one's ideal produce group [snip]

Wait, stop. This right here.

... I think a lot of people, myself included, wanted to see the characters grow and see many different aspects of them. But now, well... about a quarter of them at least aren't going to get to do that with the one character they want to. Historically, NPCs have two distinguishing characteristics: they don't get as much development as the main cast, and they sit further than the main cast from the player. Not a lot of people are taking kindly to this.

A lot of people were anticipating producing their ideal unit with rabid fan glee, but in the space of like, 45 minutes, they found out they couldn't. I don't even have to go through what else they found out, but let's say there were a lot of things to digest, and not much time to do it in.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: gyrobot on October 02, 2010, 09:15:40 pm
This also happened with the Gundam VS series, especially with Sandrock and Blitz, who's VAs are present
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Elixir on October 03, 2010, 03:00:03 am
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3738/266b4cfb.jpg)

Miki gets her hair back once you guys remove male idols from the game.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on October 03, 2010, 06:44:56 am
1. Project Jupiter is the best thing that's happened to iM@S since SP.

2. I love Miki's new hair, you can keep those.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: gyrobot on October 03, 2010, 07:06:56 am
1. Project Jupiter is the best thing that's happened to iM@S since SP.

2. I love Miki's new hair, you can keep those.

Who would you like to see Project Jupiter pair up with from 765/Fairy?
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Scotty on October 03, 2010, 04:13:33 pm
No one. They've been hired strictly to make fans. Not to date those silly idols.
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: TweenDoriru on October 03, 2010, 06:30:27 pm
Wait, stop. This right here.

... I think a lot of people, myself included, wanted to see the characters grow and see many different aspects of them. But now, well... about a quarter of them at least aren't going to get to do that with the one character they want to. Historically, NPCs have two distinguishing characteristics: they don't get as much development as the main cast, and they sit further than the main cast from the player. Not a lot of people are taking kindly to this.

A lot of people were anticipating producing their ideal unit with rabid fan glee, but in the space of like, 45 minutes, they found out they couldn't. I don't even have to go through what else they found out, but let's say there were a lot of things to digest, and not much time to do it in.

Yeah, that's true, but I do think that we should be happy we have something and not nothing. The more I look at it, the more I think they really did it because of the mass amount of trio commus that they'd have to record (well...mass more) with those 4 in.

I dunno...I certainly do love Ami and Ricchan and all, but I guess I'm just not taking this as hard as everyone else :s
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: gyrobot on October 03, 2010, 07:38:59 pm
Yeah, that's true, but I do think that we should be happy we have something and not nothing. The more I look at it, the more I think they really did it because of the mass amount of trio commus that they'd have to record (well...mass more) with those 4 in.

I dunno...I certainly do love Ami and Ricchan and all, but I guess I'm just not taking this as hard as everyone else :s

Guess I am a shipper type
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Tenchy on October 03, 2010, 08:39:47 pm
No one. They've been hired strictly to make fans. Not to attempt to date those atrocious idols.
Fix'd
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Cien Laguoire on October 03, 2010, 11:45:48 pm
No one. They've been hired strictly to make fans. Not to date those silly idols.
Maybe a fan generating machine with the ladies, but with men, not so much I think.
Besides, 961 needed to fix their reputation after failing with Project Fairy. ;D
Title: Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
Post by: Maiku_Ando on October 04, 2010, 02:07:15 am
Fix'd

LOL

« Last Edit: October 03, 2010, 08:14:26 PM by Scotty »

Even more LOL.