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THE iDOLM@STER => THE iDOLM@STER SP (PSP) series => Topic started by: Ferret on March 04, 2010, 01:13:56 pm

Title: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Ferret on March 04, 2010, 01:13:56 pm
Hi,

Do you want to see Idolmaster games seeing official western release? Here's what you can do: go to the official Atlus forums, and post to this thread supporting Idolmaster: http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6609

If you aren't registered at their forums already, it just takes a minute.

Okay, before anyone starts saying it's no use, Atlus really is interested in these threads. One of their employees said on another forum that they do keep a close eye on these suggestion threads, and those that get lots of replies will be seriously considered. Atlus brings over a lot niche games from Japan. Doesn't hurt to try, right?
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: airgeneralpong on March 04, 2010, 01:49:57 pm
Other than let them look down on our idols, I sorry to say, but it's certainly not going to work.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Lushe on March 04, 2010, 01:53:33 pm
Unfortunately, the typical western gamer is not familiar with Idolmaster. And those western gamers who have heard of Idolmaster think that it's just a typical dating-sim game with underage girls (which is false, of course). So, of course, it's gonna be looked down on.


So yeah, harsh reality, but we gotta accept it. Idolmaster is one of those games that will probably never get out of Japan. ):
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Ferret on March 04, 2010, 02:40:51 pm
That's what everyone said about Sakura Wars: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/review/R102563.html

That's also what they said about the Ace Attorney series. And Katamari Damacy.

When people were doing a petition to bring back Sam & Max, lots of people were saying it's no use, it's not gonna happen. It turned out the Sam & Max team was so impressed about the petition they started their own company, and now we have two more Sam & Max games.

People say about lots of games they're too Japanese to be released here. Surprisingly many of them do get released, many by Atlus, and actually do well over here. You really just never know.

Look, all I'm saying it doesn't hurt to ask, but defeatist attitude does hurt the cause. At any rate, you can improve the reputation of the series by leaving your own corner and going out there. Tell other people what it's really about. Things don't happen by themselves.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: digi162 on March 04, 2010, 06:40:54 pm
LOL I actually thought about making a thread on their forum a long while back petitioning the xbox version, and I think there is/are some threads on there that tried to petition the game.  I mean it doesn't hurt trying but the biggest problem is Namco itself.  Like if you look at all the Tales Of requested games in that forum too, it doesn't come down to how much the people want the games, it's just Namco isn't willing to part so easily with a lot of it's franchises.  I think you'd have to petition both Atlus and Namco for a stateside release @_@

I still support your idea, it would be nice to see a stateside release.  I'd suggest focusing on the SP releases on your thread there maybe.  Those would probably sell well in the states I think since the PSP doesn't have a lot of solid releases in the states.  I've been meaning actually to make a bunch of tutorial videos on how to play the game and put them up on youtube.  A lot of the problems getting people to play or interested is just the language barrier.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Lushe on March 04, 2010, 09:25:33 pm

People say about lots of games they're too Japanese to be released here. Surprisingly many of them do get released, many by Atlus, and actually do well over here. You really just never know.

Yeah, you have a point. XD

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At any rate, you can improve the reputation of the series by leaving your own corner and going out there. Tell other people what it's really about. Things don't happen by themselves.

Unfortunately, I've been doing this since the day I bought my first Idolmaster game, but alas, it's really hard to get through the typical western gamer.


But hey, I guess it's too early to quit. I mean, you're right, Atlus may just pull this one off if enough people demand it. XD
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: iDOL15 on March 04, 2010, 10:02:11 pm
I hope it does make it here. I believe that THE iDOLM@STER has sooooo much potential for it to actually find a niche here in the US markets. I'm not saying it will probably be the next blockbuster game but it most likely won't be a huge bomb.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Sev on March 04, 2010, 10:13:13 pm
Hell yeah i'll sign what have we got to lose. The odds are against us but then again there a better chance of a western release if we do something than if we just sit here. Whats the worst that can happen. Its all or nothing for me. 360 or bust.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: s8C on March 04, 2010, 11:52:04 pm
Maybe if they took the EBA approach to it and created a similar game with a new western cast.
I wouldn't really want to re-buy a sub of the game since I've already got so much invested in my current copy

And I don't think dubbing would work for a game so heavily focused on the character's vocals. However good a singer they got to be Makoto, I wouldn't be able to think of her as Makoto, because it's just not her voice.



Atlus is pretty good about making English versions of songs, so it might actually be good, but I think there'd need to be a new set of idols. Even when dubs are done really well they'll be compared unfavorably to the original, because of the tendency to favor the voice you've become used to.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: iDOL15 on March 05, 2010, 12:41:53 am
Maybe if they took the EBA approach to it and created a similar game with a new western cast.
I wouldn't really want to re-buy a sub of the game since I've already got so much invested in my current copy

And I don't think dubbing would work for a game so heavily focused on the character's vocals. However good a singer they got to be Makoto, I wouldn't be able to think of her as Makoto, because it's just not her voice.

Atlus is pretty good about making English versions of songs, so it might actually be good, but I think there'd need to be a new set of idols. Even when dubs are done really well they'll be compared unfavorably to the original, because of the tendency to favor the voice you've become used to.

Doing a similar game would be a bad mistake. I don't really have much faith in the casting process but I hope they could  they might find good voice actresses and when comes to the song localization, I'm kind of hoping they would take the Bust a Move (Groove) approach where they in most cases just wrote english lyrics to the songs that were in japanese.

Bust a Move(Groove)1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0OZqmppGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlH7IbsVoZw

Bust a Move(Groove)2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmt2PqT4kc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZe75LwYQVQ
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: zeda12123 on March 05, 2010, 03:51:53 am
What's there to lose? Never hurts to try! =D
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Sev on March 05, 2010, 04:25:08 am
we should ask Atlus to sub the game instead of dub, this way we can keep the Orginality and those of us (myself included) that can't speak or read Japanese can understand what the characters are saying. When you aproach from a marketing prospective it makes since less money spent on dubbing equals more money in everyones pockets.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: zeda12123 on March 05, 2010, 04:31:57 am
The ability to choose what language different parts of the game is in would be a nice feature~ Like, for example, being able to have the songs in japanese, but have the dialoge in english dub or subbed.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: digi162 on March 05, 2010, 05:52:05 am
we should ask Atlus to sub the game instead of dub, this way we can keep the Orginality and those of us (myself included) that can't speak or read Japanese can understand what the characters are saying. When you aproach from a marketing prospective it makes since less money spent on dubbing equals more money in everyones pockets.

Honestly that would be the best way to go about it.  Subbing would be a lot easier than dubbing, unfortunately Sony and their weird rules.  I remember Atlus had some problems with Arcana Heart, they had to remove dialogue because Sony wouldn't let them keep it in.  Shame they can't do what Sony allowed Sega to do with Yakuza 2.

I wonder if instead of bringing the game over, Atlus could work with Namco to make an English patch that could be applied to the game.  Make a couple more language patches, and put them on sale.  Even if you had to pay like 600 yen or something to get a language patch, it'd be better than having to repurchase the game.  I dunno, I'm sure at some point even if it's years from now this game will probably find it's way over here.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: satty on March 05, 2010, 08:42:50 am
Hmm...if it did come out, I would think that the game would do okay. The gameplay seems simple enough for anyone to get, and subbed games can be possible here; there was Endless Frontier....The problem is that yes, there would be some sort of misunderstanding about the game itself (moral guardians would love to pick on it).

As for what game: I don't think the 360 versions would be well received here, with the games that the 360 usually gets, but that's my opinion. The PSP versions could work, but there's the rampant piracy. The DS one seems to be the best chance: a greater amount of people have a DS than a PSP in the US, so there could be more buyers.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: RoninatorMarx on March 05, 2010, 09:57:40 am
I believe this has been done before, though the requesting is on Namco Bandai's own forum.

Moving on, as much as this is worth a shot, perhaps we shouldn't do this, not for iM@S at least. We can do something, yes. But should we? In my opinion, no.

Breakdown:

Point one: Imagine if it does, Atlus will soon decide over dub or sub. It would be awkward that a good portion of the game is Japanese, and it will only have subbed communication. The Producer's case, being a silent protagonist, makes it more awkward as it would look like speaking two different languages yet full understanding. We could also go to the point of dub for commus only, the songs don't change. That would work, until some fans (the unpleasable) would complain for the choice of voice actors. Though at that point, your mileage may vary (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YourMileageMayVary), so some may see it good. Some, bad. Others, don't care.

Point two: Let's say they worked something out. The fans are very pleased with whatever decisions Atlus made. But here's the part where it matters most: Who would get the game? Sure, Atlus have sent us good translations in the past, but that doesn't mean they'll keep on doing it for anything if they see that both they and the other company won't profit much from it.

Sorry if I seemed pessimistic there, but I'm not trying to be such and instead be realistic. I mean, majority of the people who own an iM@S title understand Japanese, and has gone through many stuff JUST to get the game (a brilliant marketing strategy for Namco may I add). Some people who have heard of iM@S will instantly label this game as some cliche Visual Novel (as I saw in the forum link you posted).

If you want my true opinion, yes, why not? It's Atlus, the same people that gave us English versions of Izuna, Draglade, Super Robot Wars OG, Summon Night, Disgaea, KOF Neo Blood (*shot*), Guilty Gear (the first of the series), and Arcana Heart (*drools*). They can probably pull this off. But enter fan haters, those damn extremist who judge things before the label. Which is why I like the unannounced stuff.

I love iM@S, and I respect Atlus. That's why most of me is against this, to prevent those people who has and will give this game a bad name, sometimes without even an honest reason. I'll support this motion when and if some damn people stop trying to ruin the image of some games and us fans. If it does, I want subs. I trust some subbing, but I don't play risks at stakes this big.

At the moment, the only thing I want Atlus translating is Draglade 2. >X3 IT'S BEEN OVER 3 YEARS, ATLUS! THREE WHOLE YEARS!!

I wonder if instead of bringing the game over, Atlus could work with Namco to make an English patch that could be applied to the game.  Make a couple more language patches, and put them on sale.  Even if you had to pay like 600 yen or something to get a language patch, it'd be better than having to repurchase the game.  I dunno, I'm sure at some point even if it's years from now this game will probably find it's way over here.

Patching would be impossible in that case. What a patch does is fix minor gameplay issues or to add, disable or remove bugs and accidental game breakers. If you will look at the case of Street Fighter IV, they could've just make a patch for the new characters, gameplay changes, etc. but it was deemed too big of a change to be called a patch.

If we apply that to iM@S standards, that would mean changing the coding for every commu, menu bars, etc. In that sense, was it way bigger than SFIV's case. Rewriting an entire game is instead the only solution.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: TweenDoriru on March 05, 2010, 09:11:30 pm
Well, as people have said before, there's no harm in trying XD I do see the handheld versions selling better, though (As much as I'd want a 360 release so I don't have to import it).

and...well, there are people that are against anything :\ You could put a Barney game for 2 year olds on the market, and there would be someone that's entirely too old to be doing so complaining about it, really XD Not everyone can be fans of everything, and there are always people that will look at things from the wrong view (or complain because they have nothing better to do).
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: lisondra22 on March 05, 2010, 09:54:52 pm
Fantasies are dreams.
Dreams are hope.
Hopes are goals.
Goals are attainable thru hard work.
Even thinking about doing hard work is unthinkable.
The unthinkable is not to be done.

Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: digi162 on March 05, 2010, 06:50:21 pm
Quote from: MarxMayhem
Patching would be impossible in that case. What a patch does is fix minor gameplay issues or to add, disable or remove bugs and accidental game breakers. If you will look at the case of Street Fighter IV, they could've just BLAH BLAH BLAH MY INTERNET DICK

MARX SRSLY I don't get where you feel entitled to waltz around this board and tell people they're wrong like this.  You're arguing with me and telling me I'm wrong because I threw an idea out there, only because it didn't match with whatever you agree with.  It's even more amusing that I can google the word patch and get a definition that doesn't even match your definition. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_%28computing%29)

Any mod can delete this post, but seriously this needs to be said.  You argue pointlessly and whine to everyone on this god damn board you just keep alienating everyone trying to enjoy and talk about this game.  You even complained when I came back for how gangsta my intro post was, even though everyone posting was having a good time and a good laugh.  Who cares how seriously we take this game, this isn't some place to argue and banter, it's a place to meet new people who enjoy this game, and just have some gawd damn fun.  And it would be fun except we got negative people walking around feeling the need to put everyone down every time someone has an idea.  It turns this place into a freaking ghost town because no one wants to chat amidst all that.  It makes me feel so bad for Kaminos and Yuna, since they put all this work into creating a place like this, only to have it spoiled.  You have 700+ posts and don't even own the game, why should I take your posts seriously. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc)

Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Kyo on March 06, 2010, 03:36:10 am
MARX SRSLY I don't get where you feel entitled to waltz around this board and tell people they're wrong like this.  You're arguing with me and telling me I'm wrong because I threw an idea out there, only because it didn't match with whatever you agree with.  It's even more amusing that I can google the word patch and get a definition that doesn't even match your definition. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_%28computing%29)

Any mod can delete this post, but seriously this needs to be said.  You argue pointlessly and whine to everyone on this god damn board you just keep alienating everyone trying to enjoy and talk about this game.  You even complained when I came back for how gangsta my intro post was, even though everyone posting was having a good time and a good laugh.  Who cares how seriously we take this game, this isn't some place to argue and banter, it's a place to meet new people who enjoy this game, and just have some gawd damn fun.  And it would be fun except we got negative people walking around feeling the need to put everyone down every time someone has an idea.  It turns this place into a freaking ghost town because no one wants to chat amidst all that.  It makes me feel so bad for Kaminos and Yuna, since they put all this work into creating a place like this, only to have it spoiled.  You have 700+ posts and don't even own the game, why should I take your posts seriously. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc)



QFT

On topic: The only way Idolmaster would be able to get a release outside Japan is if conservative bigots, feminist Taliban groups, and other self-righteous moralists stop whining about games/manga/anime featuring underage girls.

The main difference is mindset.

Also @ satty: I agree that the 360 versions would probably be drowned in the sea of Western FPS and action games that seem to make up the population of games for that console. However, I think SP would be a better introduction to new fans than the DS version. DS is kinda like a semi-sequel to SP and it may make more sense for people to get acquainted with the 765 idols and their backgrounds first, so that they know why they act the way they do in DS.

And, SP is more closer to the original gameplay formula than DS, so I feel that players would be able to get the more 'complete' experience instead of a stripped-down version.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: lisondra22 on March 06, 2010, 09:58:47 am
MARX SRSLY I don't get where you feel entitled to waltz around this board and tell people they're wrong like this.  You're arguing with me and telling me I'm wrong because I threw an idea out there, only because it didn't match with whatever you agree with.  It's even more amusing that I can google the word patch and get a definition that doesn't even match your definition. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_%28computing%29)

Any mod can delete this post, but seriously this needs to be said.  You argue pointlessly and whine to everyone on this god damn board you just keep alienating everyone trying to enjoy and talk about this game.  You even complained when I came back for how gangsta my intro post was, even though everyone posting was having a good time and a good laugh.  Who cares how seriously we take this game, this isn't some place to argue and banter, it's a place to meet new people who enjoy this game, and just have some gawd damn fun.  And it would be fun except we got negative people walking around feeling the need to put everyone down every time someone has an idea.  It turns this place into a freaking ghost town because no one wants to chat amidst all that.  It makes me feel so bad for Kaminos and Yuna, since they put all this work into creating a place like this, only to have it spoiled.  You have 700+ posts and don't even own the game, why should I take your posts seriously. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3n0vBcW5fc)


Chill! Every people on this planet has their own opinions and conspiracies. So be friends kay?
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Cien Laguoire on March 06, 2010, 09:31:36 pm
Just my 2 cents worth.
I think it's worth a try to try to get an Idolmaster game a NA/EU release, but it's likely it won't be possible. The games are closely tied into a very unique part of Japanese culture, one which a large majority of people outside of Japan would likely not completely understand. If the game did get a NA/EU release, which is good for most of us here on Project Im@s, there still might only be a small amount of people wanting to play this game. Then again, it might become a cult hit, like other Japanese games that made their way here, and it just might catch on to a larger audience. :)

It may be very difficult to shoot for a NA/EU release of Im@s, but it's certainly not impossible. Nothing that we shouldn't do something about, anyways.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Scotty on March 07, 2010, 01:29:22 am
If there's a mod that's going to delete that post, it won't be me. Unfortunately, my sentiments are pretty much imbued in those words.

I'm still crossing all my extremities  that 2nd Vision turns out to be iM@S for PS3. Only then will we ever see anything close to a western release. Which will be none. Take Star Ocean 4 International into consideration. Packed full of languages. Only way to truly enjoy those types of games is to offer subbing only, since SO4's dubbing was atrocious. Then again, many games do dubbing almost perfect, like BandaiNamco's own Tales of Vesperia, or Final Fantasy 13. Still, subbing seems like the only logical step in the right direction for iM@S. This is only translated text, to be replaced whenever a player wants, not some sort of serious code work as mentioned before. A patch is also reasonable. I've seen many many patches in PC games, AND PSP games that have added a great amount of content to an already released game. Don't agree? Then replace "patch" with "DLC".

Why do I hope for a PS3 version so bad? Because it can easily hold room for many subbed languages, not just English, already opening the door to many other fans who also hope for the hopeless. Also, some people still don't seem to understand that a PS3 release would mean no region lock whatsoever. As in, you just need to make an order on a simple import site and pay a tiny bit more.

What more could one want~!
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: zeda12123 on March 07, 2010, 04:12:14 pm
I have to admit, I agree with, Scotty here.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Cien Laguoire on March 07, 2010, 07:44:18 pm
And to add to your PS3 comment, Scotty, if I remember correctly, it is a region free system, meaning we can import the game (if Second Vision does come out as a PS3 game) without worrying over the regional limitations like the 360 has. :)
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: H4ataraxia on March 07, 2010, 10:43:26 pm
IM@S western release?
not possible

IM@S PS3?
we're getting somewhere
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Sev on March 08, 2010, 05:14:47 am
my only concern with a ps3 release is would there be english subbing because my skill for japanese is zero until my Japanese classes start next year.

also good to see you again Taco
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: animeprincess on September 12, 2010, 04:10:54 pm
IM@S western release?
not possible

IM@S PS3?
we're getting somewhere
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: ikuto-sama on January 12, 2011, 03:48:28 am


IM@S western release?
not possible

IM@S PS3?
we're getting somewhere

Need there be anything else said?
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: BlueBird on February 03, 2011, 02:46:32 am
If any games have a chance of being ported would be the SP series. I don't know if the American audience would be ok with not only underage girls but one of them being a cross dresser would be a big issue. I live in America and most of the people of my generation would be ok with this but news sources (like CNN) would try and angle the game to make it look like its making your children gay. I think most fans wouldn't want a dubbed game just a subbed game. Personally I would hate the most if the idols had English voices when talking but sing in  Japanese because this would seem more out of place than English text. In the game Fate/ Unlimited Codes (I think that was what its called) for PSP there was only a Japanese voice track but English text.  If this was brought over I would pick it up 1st day and buy DLC no doubt
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: Rihsa on June 24, 2011, 01:38:38 am
Let's not overestimate the attention Idolm@ster would get if it were released in America. Like Persona 4 and Hyperdimension Neptunia, it'll go completely under the radar and go unnoticed by the majority of America, save for the gamer community. This game isn't Rapelay or GTA or anything. Are games even in the news anymore? Seriously. On top of that, you'd have to play the game to know what's actually in it. Trailers for the game would just show a rhythm game and people singing and dancing to songs. Someone just scratching the surface of the games would know only that much.

I think the main issue here is whether Idolm@ster would sell well or not. :/ At least, that's the Tales series big issue and the reason why lots of Tales games are going unreleased (and this is a series that already has at LEAST a little presence in America).

As for the sub thing, I believe it's Sony's policy that the game has to have English voices available if it's on a disc (Except Yakuza 4. I'm hearing stuff that that was a special case for whatever reason). Things available only on PSN can be done without an English dub like Arcana Heart.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: DereDereAngel on November 20, 2011, 01:59:23 pm
I'm not trying to necro a thread here, but I had a few things to add...

The iDOLM@STER will never be taken outside of Japan in the foreseeable future. Here's why:

1. No audience. Well, yes, there's us. But that's not enough compared to how much it would cost Namco to do it. Also, Namco have a pretty poor history when it comes to localising stuff outside Japan.

2. Innuendo and under-age girls. This will not fly at all in the United States and similar countries. Of course there's nothing even ecchi about iM@S, but that's not how a mainstream Western audience would see it.

3. The biggest reason: The iDOLM@STER is more than just a video game series. It's a whole franchise. I don't believe Namco would ever want to bring just bits and pieces of it across. It'd be all or nothing. Which, in our case, means nothing. Even if if they did decide to bring it all, they would have to dub ALL the music released on CDs. Can you even imagine how much that would cost?

My own personal feelings is that I'd prefer for it not to be localised anyway. I shudder to think what a dub would be like or what some members of Western-anime communities would do to the series if they latched onto it.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: TweenDoriru on November 20, 2011, 07:33:44 pm
I'm not trying to necro a thread here, but I had a few things to add...

The iDOLM@STER will never be taken outside of Japan in the foreseeable future. Here's why:

1. No audience. Well, yes, there's us. But that's not enough compared to how much it would cost Namco to do it. Also, Namco have a pretty poor history when it comes to localising stuff outside Japan.

2. Innuendo and under-age girls. This will not fly at all in the United States and similar countries. Of course there's nothing even ecchi about iM@S, but that's not how a mainstream Western audience would see it.

3. The biggest reason: The iDOLM@STER is more than just a video game series. It's a whole franchise. I don't believe Namco would ever want to bring just bits and pieces of it across. It'd be all or nothing. Which, in our case, means nothing. Even if if they did decide to bring it all, they would have to dub ALL the music released on CDs. Can you even imagine how much that would cost?

My own personal feelings is that I'd prefer for it not to be localised anyway. I shudder to think what a dub would be like or what some members of Western-anime communities would do to the series if they latched onto it.
All of this is very true. Honestly, if they wanted to bring the whole franchise over, and go all out with dubs and the like, I'd personally frown upon it.

I think it would be nice if they could release an "Asian"/International version. Everything is exactly the same except it has options for different-language subtitles on it (since, while that's more work for them, there are people who don't speak English or Japanese but want to enjoy iM@S, too).

Quite frankly, I think that iM@S2 wouldn't be very difficult to do that for, given that there's not that many different commus compared to iM@S1. But (please correct me if I'm wrong), translating something like iM@S1 wouldn't be -that- much more work than translating a Tales of game, would it? Since there's a lot of little events and such that need to be translated but might not be seen in the end.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: animagic4u on November 20, 2011, 07:38:34 pm
Well a lot of the UI and basic gameplay elements would be super easy to translate.
The only thing they'd have to translate are the commus really.
It's time consuming but I think it'd be pretty simple.
Title: Re: Idolmaster western release! What you can do right now:
Post by: redhairedking on November 27, 2011, 04:26:57 am
I don't think getting the games translated would be the hard part, seeing as fans do that on their own anyway. The hard part would be marketing it. Let's face it, the majority of people in any given country other than Japan will see this as sexual innuendo with teenage girls.
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Post by: animagic4u on November 27, 2011, 06:29:46 pm
Well I think the problem is the target audience in Japan v. the target audience in America.

My friends and even a lot of people on other forums and ircs think that iDOLM@STER is a game for GIRLS.
It has a lot of traditional elements of girlish games I suppose. Dress up, watching the performances, gorgeous men, etc etc.

Obviously in Japan the target audience is men...but if they tried to market it to men in America (I don't wanna play stereotypes here, but by men I'm thinking the stereotypical xbox live addicts) it would come off real pedo-ish and not all that appealing...because I think here it definetly looks like a game for girls.

Now, if the game was targeted towards girls, it might be really successful!
"Look you can dress up your character however you want and watch her sing and dance! Isn't that cute?"
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Post by: TweenDoriru on November 28, 2011, 12:34:58 am
Well I think the problem is the target audience in Japan v. the target audience in America.

My friends and even a lot of people on other forums and ircs think that iDOLM@STER is a game for GIRLS.
It has a lot of traditional elements of girlish games I suppose. Dress up, watching the performances, gorgeous men, etc etc.

Obviously in Japan the target audience is men...but if they tried to market it to men in America (I don't wanna play stereotypes here, but by men I'm thinking the stereotypical xbox live addicts) it would come off real pedo-ish and not all that appealing...because I think here it definetly looks like a game for girls.

Now, if the game was targeted towards girls, it might be really successful!
"Look you can dress up your character however you want and watch her sing and dance! Isn't that cute?"
This. I have a (male) friend who wants almost nothing to do with the girls (except for Makoto and Hibiki) but would prefer playing Jupiter because they look badass unless they're skipping to Koi wo Hajimeyou :P.

Obviously, there's nothing wrong with a guy liking iM@S, but the vast majority of American men with their videogames and manly I-must-kill-things-with-my-manly-guns-in-war-time man-attitudes aren't going to go for dressing up a cute 14-year old and her buddies in order to perform a cutesy song. Okay, okay. It was an extreme exaggeration. Don't chew me out for it, manly-men.

However, if you translate the game, I'm sure it'll get itself a following, besides us on the forum. Because it's kind of a strategy game, and kind of a rhythm game. And I'm sure when you get to people that normally play games that have heavy conversation/relationship aspects (a la Persona 3/4, and Catherine), they'd be glad to pick up iM@S and give it a try.

That being said, Persona 3, Persona 4, and Catherine are all rated M. And I'm sure there are games with that sort of thing going on that -aren't- rated M, I just haven't played much more than those, if any.

It just wouldn't be the next MW3.

I'm afraid of what would happen if they market it for girls. It's more likely they'd dub it over and do a bad job with it in general, I think, and less likely that they'd leave in the Japanese voice track and use more literal translations. Of course, that's a really general assumption and I shouldn't assume it would be that way, but the possibility frightens me. XD
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Post by: animagic4u on November 28, 2011, 12:48:26 am
I'm afraid of what would happen if they market it for girls. It's more likely they'd dub it over and do a bad job with it in general, I think, and less likely that they'd leave in the Japanese voice track and use more literal translations. Of course, that's a really general assumption and I shouldn't assume it would be that way, but the possibility frightens me. XD

Oh god.
This reminds me of this "anime"-style skating game for girls. It's a NDS game I believe.
For the american release (for whatever reason) they CHANGED the art style to be more American.

I cringe at how this would work in idolm@ster.
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Post by: BT2 on November 28, 2011, 01:08:12 am
You mean that easy osu game thingy for kids?

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7826/945201111188front.jpg)
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3038/945201113122front.jpg)

Also, Happy Star Band> PSP K-on game thingie.
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Post by: TweenDoriru on November 28, 2011, 01:21:28 am
Oh god.
This reminds me of this "anime"-style skating game for girls. It's a NDS game I believe.
For the american release (for whatever reason) they CHANGED the art style to be more American.

I cringe at how this would work in idolm@ster.
You mean that easy osu game thingy for kids?

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7826/945201111188front.jpg)
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3038/945201113122front.jpg)

Also, Happy Star Band> PSP K-on game thingie.
This. Wasn't there a dancing-ish game for the Wii, too?

It had GO MY WAY!! in it in the Japanese version. They changed it to "We/Wii Cheer!" or something.
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Post by: BT2 on November 28, 2011, 01:33:59 am
This. Wasn't there a dancing-ish game for the Wii, too?

It had GO MY WAY!! in it in the Japanese version. They changed it to "We/Wii Cheer!" or something.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5006804 ?
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Post by: Benpc91 on November 28, 2011, 03:09:28 am
We Cheer came first, and by all accounts, the gameplay was better in We Cheer.  The style/soundtrack... not so much.

Few good ones though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHCnea2KiU
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Post by: Crisu on November 28, 2011, 06:02:36 am
Wow, that actually looks difficult at first glance.

I like how the USA Princess on Ice cover is not only Westernized but also very politically correct.

At this point, the anime is more likely to get brought to the West?  I think some anime that have been licensed are released with subs only, no dubs.  Bigger series like CLANNAD got an English dub, so who knows.  The trend lately, luckily, is that they keep everyone's names.  If this were ten years ago, everyone would be getting horrible new first names like so:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w5q990.jpg)
(though I admit some of these are clever, like Chloe and Zoe)

If the anime gets decent sales, maybe just maybe the game could edge out some sort of limited release?  </wishful-thinking>
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Post by: Rihsa on November 28, 2011, 06:15:51 am
Lmaoooo those names are amazing. And I had the same idea too. The anime has a great shot of being dubbed and licensed, so perhaps that could open the way for a game. Perhaps not. But I'm hopeful for at least the anime.
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Post by: Saturos on November 28, 2011, 10:30:09 am
Wow, that actually looks difficult at first glance.

I like how the USA Princess on Ice cover is not only Westernized but also very politically correct.

At this point, the anime is more likely to get brought to the West?  I think some anime that have been licensed are released with subs only, no dubs.  Bigger series like CLANNAD got an English dub, so who knows.  The trend lately, luckily, is that they keep everyone's names.  If this were ten years ago, everyone would be getting horrible new first names like so:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w5q990.jpg)
(though I admit some of these are clever, like Chloe and Zoe)

If the anime gets decent sales, maybe just maybe the game could edge out some sort of limited release?  </wishful-thinking>

lol what about takagi
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Post by: Crisu on November 28, 2011, 01:48:15 pm
"Mr. President" perhaps?
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Post by: TweenDoriru on November 28, 2011, 03:52:27 pm
We Cheer came first, and by all accounts, the gameplay was better in We Cheer.  The style/soundtrack... not so much.

Few good ones though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHCnea2KiU
Ah, sorry. Did no research before writing that post. I discovered the Japanese one first orz

Though, actually, We Cheer -does- look kind of fun.


(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w5q990.jpg)
(though I admit some of these are clever, like Chloe and Zoe)


Henry, Thomas, Shane, Mr. Blackthorne. And, Geeveegee. This cracked me up so much.

If it does get released here, I think they would go the subs-only route (a lot of anime I find are doing that nowadays -- less budget for voice actors?).
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Post by: animagic4u on November 28, 2011, 05:37:40 pm
lolololol.
That is just too hilarious...me and my brother were talking about how awful (and yet...somewhat hilarious) an adaptation would be.
I think I'm going to start telling everyone I'm a huge fan of Hannah! XD

Yes one of my favorite series's adaptation is purely subs and not dubs! The translation is pretty good too!

Actually, (on topic) I was thinking if some of the dramatic life stuff was taken out, Dearly Stars would prove a great adaptation since you play as the idols themselves, right?
They would also have to change Ryo to a girl (See trope: She's a man in Japan) But I think it would work out lovely!
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Post by: PluggedBus on January 24, 2012, 10:27:16 am
Wow, that actually looks difficult at first glance.

I like how the USA Princess on Ice cover is not only Westernized but also very politically correct.

At this point, the anime is more likely to get brought to the West?  I think some anime that have been licensed are released with subs only, no dubs.  Bigger series like CLANNAD got an English dub, so who knows.  The trend lately, luckily, is that they keep everyone's names.  If this were ten years ago, everyone would be getting horrible new first names like so:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w5q990.jpg)
(though I admit some of these are clever, like Chloe and Zoe)

If the anime gets decent sales, maybe just maybe the game could edge out some sort of limited release?  </wishful-thinking>

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a dub that uses those names. It could be like some of those old DVD releases that use the English names in the dub and the Japanese names in the sub.
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Post by: kaeru-P on January 24, 2012, 07:11:20 pm
Wow, that actually looks difficult at first glance.

I like how the USA Princess on Ice cover is not only Westernized but also very politically correct.

At this point, the anime is more likely to get brought to the West?  I think some anime that have been licensed are released with subs only, no dubs.  Bigger series like CLANNAD got an English dub, so who knows.  The trend lately, luckily, is that they keep everyone's names.  If this were ten years ago, everyone would be getting horrible new first names like so:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w5q990.jpg)
(though I admit some of these are clever, like Chloe and Zoe)

If the anime gets decent sales, maybe just maybe the game could edge out some sort of limited release?  </wishful-thinking>

Mother of God....

This
is
Pure
GENIUS

I Literally couldn't stop laughing my ass of for the last few minutes xDDDDDDDD You sir (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/036/342/youwintheinternet.jpg)


Im just wondering WAS THIS INTENTIONAL  ;D ;D ;D
http://sadpanda.us/images/822300-C33OCAB.jpg (http://sadpanda.us/images/822300-C33OCAB.jpg)
Oh for the sake of Lolz This image is so Full of win I cannot even imagine to begin where to start xD


First of all Hanna Ftw xD *montana* *gets shot* and xD Poor Makoto, SAM xD  ;D ;D ;D Ellen Robin and Mandy ROFLING, Mr. Manager..... I NEED AIR PEOPLE AIIIRRRR, Geeveegee *laughing like a retarded seal clapping his hands on and about*


and Miki-Miki ftw, Its without a doubt Miki and I share similar names, My first name is Mihkael, Nicknames variate to Kael, Mickey, Miki, Mik-Mik (lacks the I's  ;)) and for a fact her english name is Mickey kinda makes me proud of my name and even in her japanese name we Still share similar names!!  :P  8) 8)
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Post by: redhairedking on February 08, 2012, 05:40:34 am
Ah, sorry. Did no research before writing that post. I discovered the Japanese one first orz

Though, actually, We Cheer -does- look kind of fun.

Henry, Thomas, Shane, Mr. Blackthorne. And, Geeveegee. This cracked me up so much.

If it does get released here, I think they would go the subs-only route (a lot of anime I find are doing that nowadays -- less budget for voice actors?).
I'm late to the party, but that image is fabulous