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THE iDOLM@STER => Other iM@S games => Topic started by: DarkMorford on April 22, 2013, 06:21:24 pm

Title: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: DarkMorford on April 22, 2013, 06:21:24 pm
Namco-Bandai has released Shiny Festa on iOS (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/festa/ios/en/) in English! Your choice of "Harmonic Score," "Rhythmic Record," or "Melodic Disc" for the low, low introductory price (can you sense the sarcasm yet? :P) of just $54.99 each!

Personally, I'm totally stoked that they're actually releasing this in English, but I just can't justify the cost. I mean, it cost me less to import iM@S 2.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: animagic4u on April 22, 2013, 07:37:27 pm
English but iOS.
We can never win can we?

Your sarcasm amuses me though.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 22, 2013, 07:39:30 pm
Well, it's better than nothing, I guess. :(
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: SakuraMaxX on April 22, 2013, 08:15:09 pm
This is worse than nothing. Just look at the quality of the translations. Did they even give a shit?
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: blake307 on April 22, 2013, 08:37:32 pm
Well, it's better than nothing, I guess. :(

I suppose, but still. Can't say i'm really that thrilled about it considering certain things here. :/
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: idolfanaticV1 on April 22, 2013, 08:40:16 pm
I really don't know what to think of this, other than this is absolutely crazy. And scary, because if it fails, we probably won't see any other chance of Idolm@ster stuff in America. 
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: DarkMorford on April 22, 2013, 09:16:53 pm
I really don't know what to think of this, other than this is absolutely crazy. And scary, because if it fails, we probably won't see any other chance of Idolm@ster stuff in America.
That's the problem. None but the most hardcore iM@S fans will buy this, and so Bamco will go "Well, we released it in English, but nobody bought it. Guess it's not worth the effort."

If it was even down to $30, I'd probably buy one. And I almost feel like I should get one anyway just to show support, but I can't justify throwing that kind of money at a game right now. Especially not one I've already played.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: animagic4u on April 22, 2013, 10:01:09 pm
I can't justify throwing that kind of money at a game right now. Especially not one I've already played.

This.
Also, the game itself isn't worth $55 at all... I wouldn't mind an English release if it was carefully translated and one of the canon releases that have more replay factor.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 22, 2013, 10:31:19 pm
That's the problem. There's really no way to justify getting it for that price, and Scamco will think nobody likes iM@S even though we do.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Compassionate Sadist on April 22, 2013, 11:12:43 pm
I almost have the urge to say "Did they want this to bomb?"
Because I honestly can't see sales going well. Even if it was just to test the waters, it's still poorly thought out.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: TheTanStar on April 23, 2013, 12:26:44 am
I'd be more interested in the higher quality videos that would be present than the translation, and the rips that follow. A translation isn't necessary for a rhythm game.

On another note, why does this remind me of Square-Enix and their pricing scheme for this type of release?
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: altuixde on April 23, 2013, 12:42:35 am
The optimist in me is hoping that they're not testing the waters with this release, but instead that there are a slew of iM@S games that are ready or almost ready to be released in the West.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ProjectAria on April 23, 2013, 01:17:18 am
That's the problem. None but the most hardcore iM@S fans will buy this, and so Bamco will go "Well, we released it in English, but nobody bought it. Guess it's not worth the effort."

Being somebody who has every version of iDOLM@STER that has been release other than the official arcade, almost all the soundtracks, almost every item of Ritsuko, and paid around 1,500 FOR THE ANIME ON BLU-RAY WITH G4U.  I guess that would make me kind of hardcore but I still refuse to toss money on the english iOS version.  They did such a poor job that I would rather buy idolmaster xenoglossia.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: mariokirby on April 23, 2013, 03:19:45 am
So how is the actual translation?  Is it as good as fan translators such as Namassuka or anything similar? 
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Neko-P on April 23, 2013, 03:49:57 am
So how is the actual translation?  Is it as good as fan translators such as Namassuka or anything similar?

Here's a hint: "Hoobies."
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Elixir on April 23, 2013, 03:52:04 am
The translation is fine, at least they're testing the waters. They're clearly releasing it on iOS since piracy is so rampant with the PSP.

I'd buy it but I don't have any iOS devices.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: animagic4u on April 23, 2013, 06:42:48 am
Being somebody who has every version of iDOLM@STER that has been release other than the official arcade, almost all the soundtracks, almost every item of Ritsuko, and paid around 1,500 FOR THE ANIME ON BLU-RAY WITH G4U.  I guess that would make me kind of hardcore but I still refuse to toss money on the english iOS version.  They did such a poor job that I would rather buy idolmaster xenoglossia.

Best comment ever.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 23, 2013, 06:43:53 am
I do wish they'd localize Cinderella Girls. Maybe then I'll start playing it.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: WarOmnimon on April 23, 2013, 03:13:28 pm
I summed my feelings up in my post in the PSP version's thread.  To put it short, "thanks but no thanks."  If they do something on a higher level (Like an actual console release or something), then maybe this fish will bite.  8)

And by "maybe," I mean I will tell Namco to "shut up and take my money" for sure.

*Gets shot for utilizing overused Futurama meme*
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Funkies on April 23, 2013, 06:33:07 pm
*pops back into community*

Price?  Fine.

Platform?  No thanks.

If they make it a PSN download in the future, I'll give 'em a break for the initially nonsensical platform switch.  I don't know how "western market" and "PSP" resulted in "iPhone/iPad" as an answer for iM@S.

Rhythm games on touch devices irritate the yar out of me.  Give me a download for my PSP and I'll gladly double dip over the import copies.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: mariokirby on April 23, 2013, 09:09:47 pm
Here's a hint: "Hoobies."

Okay, one misspelled word does not represent the entire translation. 

Can someone who has played the game can tell us how
is the actual translation?  Is it as good as fan translators such as Namassuka or the fan subbers for the Anime?
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 23, 2013, 09:11:50 pm
From what I've seen it's a pretty straight forward translation.

It certainly isn't Engrish, but don't expect any "Woolseyisms".
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: mariokirby on April 23, 2013, 09:29:23 pm
From what I've seen it's a pretty straight forward translation.

It certainly isn't Engrish, but don't expect any "Woolseyisms".

Yeah, I read your reply in the other topic.  So the translation captures the personalty of the idols pretty well.  Then actual translation is pretty good.  That's probably one of the most important thing.  Then what is with all the hate if the actual translation is pretty good?

Would you people want it to be released on the PSP with an average or mediocre translation?

Also, what is Woolseyisms?
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 23, 2013, 09:40:56 pm
The hate is mostly because of the high price.

Woolseysism are basically jokes that are added to an English translation when something from the Japanese version gets lost in translation/wouldn't make sense or when the script is spiced up.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Woolseyism
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: mariokirby on April 23, 2013, 09:56:24 pm
The hate is mostly because of the high price.

Woolseysism are basically jokes that are added to an English translation when something from the Japanese version gets lost in translation/wouldn't make sense or when the script is spiced up.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Woolseyism

Oh I see.  I'm just worried that some of the jokes, phrases, and sayings that pertain to Japanese Culture will be removed, since a Westerner wouldn't really understand, and replaced with something else.  This is where Fan translators come in handy.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 23, 2013, 10:33:42 pm
As I said, no real "localization". It's all a very straight forward translation.

I actually do like when some liberties are taken to spice up the English script, but that kind of approach wouldn't work very well with iDOLM@STER.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: mariokirby on April 23, 2013, 11:07:38 pm
As I said, no real "localization". It's all a very straight forward translation.

I actually do like when some liberties are taken to spice up the English script, but that kind of approach wouldn't work very well with iDOLM@STER.

Oh really? That's Awesome!  Thank You Very Much ninjamitsuki!  I really appreciate it in answering my questions and concerns.  I think I will buy it then. 

More people need to buy this game to motivate Namco to translate Idolm@ster 2!

Yes, I know its expensive.  But the translation as, ninjamitsuki, says is pretty good and keeps the Japanese Culture.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Chance4U on April 24, 2013, 03:44:14 am
Umm... So the routes and OVA's are translated... But do the songs still have Japanese subs?
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: idolfanaticV1 on April 24, 2013, 03:56:26 am
They still have the Japanese subs. Just checked it out on Theater Mode.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Chance4U on April 24, 2013, 04:17:57 am
Thanks... I guess that's good for the wiki, but I can't help but admit that I wanted some official English lyrics...
Oh! Are the Star of Festa cards translated? If they are, we can finally have some official English profiles for DS, Jupiter, & CG girls!
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 24, 2013, 04:19:33 am
From what I've seen, they didn't even translate the song names, not even into romaji. The song names are literally just in Japanese when you select them.

But I haven't played Shiny Festa in Japanese or otherwise so I don't know if it changes in gameplay or if it's only the selection that is in Japanese.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: idolfanaticV1 on April 24, 2013, 04:21:21 am
Yes, although the highest ranked card I have is Sachiko, they have the same translation. Even the "HOOBIES" mistake.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Chance4U on April 24, 2013, 04:32:07 am
From what I've seen, they didn't even translate the song names, not even into romaji. The song names are literally just in Japanese when you select them.

But I haven't played Shiny Festa in Japanese or otherwise so I don't know if it changes in gameplay or if it's only the selection that is in Japanese.

Yeah, I saw that online. Ugh. The menu stayed the same too, except for the blurb at the bottom and a few translations. This video shows a bit of gameplay, but the screen is a bit cut off during the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVNVE4aWato

It's the only video I could find so far...

Yes, although the highest ranked card I have is Sachiko, they have the same translation. Even the "HOOBIES" mistake.
Well, at least it's a translation! Something is definitely better than nothing!
Nice Hoobies.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Scotty on April 24, 2013, 06:06:33 am
Translation is good.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Naryoril on April 24, 2013, 08:40:16 am
I actually do like when some liberties are taken to spice up the English script, but that kind of approach wouldn't work very well with iDOLM@STER.

Why not? If done well i see no problem. In this regard i really like Carpe Fulgur's work (Recettear, Chantelise and Fortune Summoners). Actually i was hoping they are currently doing im@s localizations (since they are working on some secret project they aren't allowed to talk about for over a year now and several info deadlines have been missed because their partner didn't want them to tell on what they are working), but apparently i was off unfortunately
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 24, 2013, 10:00:04 am
Why not? If done well i see no problem. In this regard i really like Carpe Fulgur's work (Recettear, Chantelise and Fortune Summoners). Actually i was hoping they are currently doing im@s localizations (since they are working on some secret project they aren't allowed to talk about for over a year now and several info deadlines have been missed because their partner didn't want them to tell on what they are working), but apparently i was off unfortunately
As you said, this is sort of a "who knows" deal with how iDOLM@STER could be localized. I too love Carpe Fulgur, but iM@S is way out of their budget, even Nippon Ichi said they couldn't do it because it's so expensive.

The main problem with a translation that takes liberties would be that the fans would be pissed. But if you already played the game in Japanese, it would be nice to experience it in a new way.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Daverost on April 24, 2013, 07:54:50 pm
Oh, so the song titles and lyrics are all untranslated? No wonder it's not on PSP then. Hopefully they get less lazy and fix that so we can actually have it on the intended system.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: idolfanaticV1 on April 25, 2013, 11:25:34 pm
Has anyone bought Rhythmic Record or Melodic Disc? Trying to come up with the amount of money earned so far by this when taking the number of people on the leader boards and multiplying that by the price of the game. I'm going off of Harmonic Score and assuming leader boards are divided by country, Harmonic Score has already earned a little over 25 thousand dollars. If we assume that it's running about the same for each game, that's 75k after 4 days.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: SakuraMaxX on April 26, 2013, 12:15:10 am
It's hard to decide if it's valid or not since most likely cracked versions of the game (come on, on iOS it's inevitable) are out and about already too.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 26, 2013, 12:31:09 am
I wonder which version is selling the most/least.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 26, 2013, 03:53:05 am
So I caved and got Groovy Tu- er, Melodic Disc.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Cael K. on April 26, 2013, 04:22:34 am
I too love Carpe Fulgur, but iM@S is way out of their budget

Just a thought that popped into my head - why would you try to buy the rights to a translation for an existing game, when you can convince a company that's already planning a US release that you'll do it for them?

But you know what? I remember reading a review on Ikaruga a long time ago. It went something like this:

There are probably only two sort of people reading this review. The first is the people who know nothing about this game and might not even think of buying it. The second are the people who are already fans and have imported the game already.

... 'Bout sums up my feelings.

... And is this hoobies going to become the Idolm@ster version of spoony bard?
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Naryoril on April 26, 2013, 08:32:28 am
There are probably only two sort of people reading this review. The first is the people who know nothing about this game and might not even think of buying it. The second are the people who are already fans and have imported the game already.

There is one big difference though: The amount of text. I didn't play ikaruga (i prefer Cave games), but it is a shoot'em up, so i don't think it has much text. An im@s translation would be interesting for many people even though they have already imported the game.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: ninjamitsuki on April 26, 2013, 09:03:08 am
Hopefully the next iDOLM@STER game in the series will have a planned English release. A girl can dream.
Title: Re: Finally: iM@S Officially in English!
Post by: Yodudes0 on July 09, 2013, 04:33:09 am
The games are half price for a bit. I think it's for 3 more days.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/idolm-ster-shiny-festa-rhythmic/id581869945?l=ja&ls=1&mt=8