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Getting all the S rank accessories is no problem, you get them all through ex clear rewards of S rank events. The costumes are the big issue and the reason why platinum stars is the only PS im@s game i don't have the platinum trophy for. After over 200 hours and all girls at S rank i only had about 1/3 of them, so i stopped.

I don't remember if any were particularly easy, but i remember i had a lot of trouble with Ritsuko in either ex episode 2 or 3, i had to retry an event for 2 to 3 hours until all stars aligned and i could finally win it. I only had 4 hearts with her and her burst skill sucks when used as a solo burst.

What i mean is: apart from the different dialog, all you get for the correct "answer" is that the "heart meter" is filled more, but you can also fill the hearts by just using the idol on stage. That's why it doesn't matter that much if you get a perfect communication or not.

You will unlock more skills as you complete more of the rank up events that come with the ex episodes. Be warned though, some of the events in EX episode 2 and 3 will be tough, even at max level, and you'll most probably need at least 4 hearts to beat them.

For One For All.... not that i know of, but even when you have the information what you are supposed to do, those touching events are so finnicky that you often won't do the right thing anyway (i remember a scene with Miki at the harbor that was a huge pain, or a scene in Stella Stage with Haruka, or maybe Azusa, where i was supposed to wipe tears of their eyes). i suggest you just accept the non-perfect-communication, you don't lose anything a few extra lives won't get you anyway.

THE iDOLM@STER ONE FOR ALL / Re: Song Difficulty?
« on: May 09, 2018, 04:12:59 pm »
Concerning the list of song BPMs, i currently have no access to the game so i can't easily give you the list. But if you check the corresponding song in the wiki, it lists the BPM there. For example Saihyou (Chihaya's song) has 72 BPM
Wait, 72? Is that a coincidence?

Anyway. About the producer level... if i remember correctly (it has been a while, so everything i say might be wrong, sorry) the cap was increased with some patch, and before then it was 20. Did you ever get anything new after 20? A trophy or anything? If there is indeed no change, then i wouldn't bother too much with it.

About Ritsuko's burst: I don't know about the counter situation, it's the first time i hear that, so i have no idea whether it's true or not. What i DO know however is that her burst gets more powerful if it's a duo or trio burst, and the difference is immense. Her burst skill used with a solo burst is pretty useless, used as a trio burst however, it is extremely strong.

THE iDOLM@STER ONE FOR ALL / Re: Song Difficulty?
« on: May 09, 2018, 03:24:36 pm »
Since we are talking about One For All, it isn't really a rhythm game, so the only thing that's different between songs is the speed, the BPM (beats per minute). I'm not sure about most of the songs you list as easy, but i definitely remember Masterpiece being one of the slowest, if not the slowest song in the game, which makes it the best song for scoring later on. If it is indeed the speed/BPM that determine whether you think a song is easy or difficult, the BPM are listed in the song details when you are selecting a song iirc (they are definitely somewhere listed in the game). Just use songs with lower BPM, although iirc if it gets too low, there will actually be several button presses for each beat, but i think i encountered only one song like that in the game and i don't remember which one it was.

General chatter / Re: Get the Popcorn! It's the Movies Topic!
« on: May 03, 2018, 09:52:23 am »
What i meant as missing build up is that to me it didn't feel like Thanos felt much for Gamora, it felt like he always just viewed her as a tool, and sacrificing a tool isn't what should get you the soul stone. Maybe i'm wrong there, maybe sacrificing an effective tool is enough, but then Gamora's speech that Thanos will never get the soul stone wouldn't fit.

As for the slaughter: First of all, it's still a slaughter. And with the "indiscriminate" part i meant that by killing half of the population of every planet he is also killing countless people where there is absolutely no "need" to do so, even in his twisted logic.

As for "ensuring Earth's survival": He isn't doing that for Tony or anything, it's what he thinks he does by killing ever second living being, so he'd do it whether Tony had opposed him or not.

I get what the scriptwriters wanted to do, they wanted to put him into a morally gray area, but to me it doesn't work out, they did a bad job at their attempt. The writers of the Witcher games (Witcher 1 in particular) did a much better job at this. One scene that stuck to me: In general non human races are oppressed and are subject to heavy racism, as a result there are rebel/terrorist groups of elves and dwarfes. One of these groups raids a bank and takes hostages. You are sent in by the human army to negotiate with them, to ensure them they will not be harmed if they release the hostages and pull back. You can kill them or negotiate with them. If you do negotiate, after they released the hostages, the human army charges in and wants to kill them, ignoring their promise. What do you do now? Do you help the terrorists and bank robbers to escape as they were promised or do you kill them? They are terrorist that have killed innocent people before after all. Imo THAT's a well done morally gray situation where you feel for both sides.

General chatter / Re: Get the Popcorn! It's the Movies Topic!
« on: May 02, 2018, 03:58:47 pm »
As for the scene you like so much:

I have the opposite impression. It came pretty much out of left field, there wasn't nearly enough build up to that point. And the little build up that there was didn't feel believable to me, i always thought Thanos was just acting nice to Gamora right from the beginning to keep her as a plaything. I actually thought he will not get the stone, because his feeling are not sincere. It didn't feel to me like he really made a sacrifice, despite the "random" tears.

As for the morally gray in his beliefs: I don't really buy that either. It might be the case for worlds that are struggling with their resources, but i bet there are tons of world where it isn't an issue at all. And for some worlds half the population is probably still too much, while on others only a little bit less would have done the trick as well. Add that to the fact that he never even tried to find another solution, what he is doing is just indiscriminate slaughter, maybe not pitch black, but far away from gray.

Other iM@S games / Re: THE iDOLM@STER Shiny Colors (HTML5 game)
« on: April 25, 2018, 10:57:22 am »
A VPN can apparently circumvent the region lock, but somehow this killed my interest in the game...

Hi there :), sorry to revive the subject but I have some questions regarding Platinum stars nowadays.

First thanks to everyone, this topic was incredibly helpful when i started the game !

1 ) I've a version come with two code on it, I tried to enter the codes where we insert the codes of Playstation Store cards but without success. I guess they are expired or i miss something ... Can someone help me to clarify this point ?

2 ) Is there any option to skip the "DL Content Focus" each time you come to menu ? I know i can pass it with option button but i dunno if there is something about that in options ?

3 ) Concerning the Tailor , with 5 Gold ticket are all items elligible or only basic content items ?

4 ) On the account stats screen there is a envelope with a line you can select in a dropdown list, as titles in most games.What the point of doing it ?

5 ) For the Valentine achievment do you need to keep the chocolate of each girl , or just have it even if you use it immediatly ?

6 ) I'm used to play "Go my way" and "Ready !!", i read a lot of times that Kiramekirari is the better song to beat the scores.
Is there any block point in the game where you're forced to play "Kiramekirari " ?

7 ) I play on my european account on my european system, i've a japanese account i used to download the catalog and some demo.If i add Yen to account via PS Cards will i be able to buy the dlc ? (It seem yes but i'm not totally sure ^^).

8 ) I actually want to buy some dlc song, more again since i read they are Stella compatible but to be honnest i find them really expensive.Do you know if there have been any reductions in the past on these DLCs ?

9 ) Is there anyone here who continue tu play P.S. ? :) (or even started it recently ^^)

Thanks in advance if you can give me some informations about these point and again sorry to revive the subject  :-[

First as a disclaimer: it's possible i remember incorrectly, it has been a while since i played the game.

1) Hard to say without seeing the actual sheet of paper the code came on. But one of them is probably a concert ticket lottery ticket, iirc platinum stars contained those for the producer meeting. It was an event that was half talk half concert, and with the lottery ticket you could win the right to buy tickets for the event.

2) I don't think so

3) You can get up to A rank costumes from the tailor, the tickets don't contain S rank costumes.

4) Not sure about that, probably for the online rankings.

5) I think you just need to see the event.

6) Kiramekirari makes it easier, you can beat stuff with lower levels than with other songs. The only real challenges are some of the DL lives.

7) Yes, if you buy DLC on your japanese account and install it, you can use the DLC on your european account, i did the same. P drops can only be used on a japanese account however, maybe some other consumables too. The mail DLC, songs and costumes work.

8) I think they have been discounted by 50%

9) I can't speak for others obviously, but i don't.

Welcome Center / Re: AnhP , nice to meet you.
« on: April 16, 2018, 09:38:18 am »

It's always nice to see another European P, it feels like im@s is finally slowly coming to Europe as well. I'm from Switzerland btw.

To be honest, i wouldn't go for the platinum trophy in Platinum Stars, in particular i wouldn't go for the trophies that require you to get all the S rank costumes as well as the one for getting all songs to rank 10. I spent over 200 hours in the game and i'm still far from getting these trophies. After getting all girls to S rank is a good place to stop with Platinum Stars and switch to Stella Stage imo. The platinum trophy for all other imas games than Platinum Stars is much more reasonable to get.

Oh, I see.  I guess that would make sense about matching both costume and song giving you much higher appeal (though I haven't tested it out).  I do know for sure that the trend song gives you additional 3000 full combo bonus.

I just did the final IA using double trend (otherwise you won't beat the 98k required for ex clear), and i got 4200 points as full combo bonus. That's 1000 base on master difficulty, +200 for the song being rank 5, +3000 due to trio skills (my leader has all skills on the board unlocked). Are you sure your leader didn't just have all the chain bonus skills of the corresponding live type? How big was your full combo bonus? The highest possible chain bonus should be: 1000 base master difficulty + 450 rank 10 (not 100% sure about this) + 3000 skills + 1000 lesson = 5450 points. Did you get more than that?

2.  Just curious, what do you get from doing that person's route/live?  I'm assuming you'll unlock her 4 songs and some scenes for her.  (I'm also assuming that only she appears in those scenes by herself without the other idols)

For one, you get the same as completing any other route: a trophy (iirc) and ofc story.

My guess is also that there might be something extra if you cleared all 14 routes, i'm still haven't cleared about half of the 765pro girls. It takes me about half an hour for each rank up live. I record them with the PS4 feature and then watch them again as video, where it's possible to pause. I'm not fast enough at reading for the producer's lines and some of the idols talk too fast for my listening skills (looking at you Ritsuko). It also helps when you have to make a choice during the story sequence. I'm currently doing 2 rank ups a day.

Sorry, to double post.  Just wanted to post more comments/questions.

1.  I know we have to beat all of the lives for each of the 6 major lives in one year, but is that just for the trophy?  Or, is it also for the end of the year review as well where the president reviews the major lives done?  (Sorry, for the dumb question).  Reason I ask this is because when I decided to give 1 major live a try out of curiosity, the president seemed to give me credit for IU (I believe) even though I didn't do all the IU lives.  Thought, it was kind of weird.

2.  I noticed certain unlisted lives stay on the menu list even after beating.  However, the character unlisted lives seemed to disappear after beating.  So, there seems to be no way to know to check to see if you beaten them.  Guess you just have to remember it.

3. It seems using the trend outfit gives you boost in appeal scoring.  But, I tried using the trend song, and it seems to boost the full combo score.  (not sure if it does anything else.)

4.  I also noticed after I got Miki to S-rank, her same morning office scenes (and I think evening office too as well) change a bit where she greets and calls you honey instead.  I don't recall it being like that in PS.  (though its been a long time)

5.  There a few S-rank SP lives in the last couple months where there's a ??.  Are those for you know who?  (did the spoiler button just disappear?)

1. It's for the end of the year review. But that review has no influence apart from some different text. The text is different between clearing none, half or less, more than half or all.

2. No idea about the unlisted lives, i haven't seen any of them yet. But i'm still working on getting everyone to S rank.

3. I never noticed a change in burst, omoide or full combo score, but the score is significantly higher if you match the trend. So i assume the appeal score is increased. And from what i have seen i'd say matching one trend (either costume or song) has the same effect as normally wearing the correct costume type. Matching both trends seems to double that effect, so as if getting the bonus you get from the correct costume twice. I never did any real testing on this though.

5. Yes they are. It's 3 different ones, each lasts for 2 weeks.

1. Sorry, i can't answer this, because i'm missing the 2 videos between Shy Shining and Happy as well. So far i assumed the Ver. A is the one in Platinum Stars, it would be a bit strange to have 2 versions of the old songs in the game, but only one version of the new one. But that's pure speculation.
My guess is that the videos will be revealed after getting all the girls to S rank. I also haven't unlocked the last video in the spoiler section, and i guess it will also be revealed after getting everyone to S rank.

2. The trending outfit and song only count for SP lives that have the type trend. There are some of those, but most notably the title events for solo (IU), duo (SD) and trio (IA), i hope i got the abbreviations right. Especially the last live of each of these series will be extremely hard if not impossible to beat without following the costume as well as the song trend. Iirc for ex clear solo is between 80k and 90k points, trio a bit above 90k points and the duo one is about 240k points in 3 songs, but you only get the song trend bonus for the actual song, not for the other 2.

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