Project-iM@S
Community => General chatter => Topic started by: TTB on April 16, 2012, 09:13:06 am
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I know there have to be some members here who feel that at least some of their friends would shun them and/or that they would lose a large measure of trust or understanding from their families if it was discovered.
Has anyone taken any unusual extra steps to hide IM@S from their friends and family?
Has anyone been bold enough to bring up the subject or even make fans out of friends or family?
Imagine if your friends or family walked into the room and saw this on the TV:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/33xx8ie.jpg)
or even
(http://i43.tinypic.com/vspg80.jpg)
Or goodness forbid, this:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/b8uyv4.jpg)
I know there have to be at least some posters here who would rather be caught by their friends/family spanking it than caught with something that looks like IM@S...
It seems every single news article about Japan is either about the Tsunami Recovery/Nucler Reactorsm, BadEconomy/HowtoAvoid, or Wacky/Crazy Japan. Do the journalists and bloggers who write the Wacky/Crazy Japan articles really think that pandering to base-level philistine xenophobic ethnocentrism raises their sales in some way? I don't know if it does or not, although intuition would suggest sensationalism sells, but I wonder what they themselves think, do they feel like a dirty sellout afterwards for assuming the intellectual low-ground?
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It's never been a problem for me taking into the love of iM@S.
A true friend would well respect your interests as long as it poses no harm to the others.
And yes, most of my non-otaku friends know that I'm obsess with iM@S.
As for my parents, they don't mind it as long as I fulfill my responsibility as a student and be prepare for my future.
I would say be true to yourself.
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Not exactly scared. In fact I don't care if my family members know about me liking im@s. As long as they don't go assuming that I am obsessed with Japanese culture which I am not, it's fine with me.
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Everyone I know knows about my love for Im@s. I post about it every day on FB, at least once for whatever reason. I also like to play it on the 60 inch TV in the living room, so my family has seen it plenty of times. :P
I'm pretty sure my friends, family, and colleagues don't care.
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Believe me,
as a girl there are games that are worse to walk into.
Various eroge...
iDOLM@STER is pretty tame.
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For legal reasons, have to lock my room when conducting certain bits of work. As in "It becomes a federal offense to walk into the room" sort of lockdown. Getting government work does that from time.
In a way, I almost sort of want to see someone TRY to walk into my im@s work, since most of the time, I lock the room down even when I'm not legally required to anyway. It does mean that I tend to work alone a lot these days though, because of the lack of surprise factor.
I'm also the only person I know where it's not uncommon for people to wait outside in the lounge room for me to pack up before I will let them in, or in some cases, outside.
Then again, most people who know me well know that im@s is just a video hobby, and that I work with much more stomach churning stuff, and probably don't WANT to ever walk in...
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Wtf Setsuna the more you talk, the more you become interesting in a curious sense.
Anyways uh my dad called me a pedophile once when he saw the box for my Chihaya F-15E. They never saw me play iM@S yet though.
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I got both my brothers into Im@s, so they're fine. My parents don't care (or at least don't say anything) as long as I do well in school and life in general. My friends don't know at all.
It helps that I have an interest in military planes and guns, and that everyone knows that I play a lot of video games.
As for your second question: Yeah, pretty much, it's all about views. Some might feel bad, but I'm sure some don't care at all if they're perpetuating these things.
Also funny that people are still concerned about the nuclear reactor in Fukushima, even though that's been largely contained and that it wouldn't have been Chernobyl bad; Chernobyl was taking an inexperienced crew to test a nuclear reactor that had all its safety features and backups disabled before and by design did not have a containment building.
As for Setsuna: Well, that's interesting to note. Sounds fun.
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I had no problem liking im@s and im not scared of having this kind of interest. In fact, my family doesn't really care about my liking to Japanese pop culture in general. But as for the other people, i just picked the right people who will accept for who i am.
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A true friend would well respect your interests as long as it poses no harm to the others.
Yeah that's the thing though... I know intelligent productive helpful people who would want anyone they caught playing something that looked like pic 2 or 3 to publically register as a molester or something...
Everyone I know knows about my love for Im@s. I post about it every day on FB, at least once for whatever reason. I also like to play it on the 60 inch TV in the living room, so my family has seen it plenty of times. :P
I'm pretty sure my friends, family, and colleagues don't care.
Holy crap... you must be a girl right? If not... where the heck do you live!? o.0
Believe me,
as a girl there are games that are worse to walk into.
Various eroge...
iDOLM@STER is pretty tame.
My ******** can't be this perverted.
For legal reasons, have to lock my room when conducting certain bits of work. As in "It becomes a federal offense to walk into the room" sort of lockdown. Getting government work does that from time.
You work for the government? o.o *imagines James Bond settling down to a game of IM@S after blowing up a military base.
I'm also the only person I know where it's not uncommon for people to wait outside in the lounge room for me to pack up before I will let them in, or in some cases, outside.
...pack... up? o.o Is that like hiding figurines and posters...? Or stashing away that alien body from Area 51 before allowing guests into the room?
Then again, most people who know me well know that im@s is just a video hobby, and that I work with much more stomach churning stuff, and probably don't WANT to ever walk in...
Stomach-churning stuff....? o.o Are you an FBI serial killer profiler...? A coordinator for targetting human trafficking operations...? An intelligence agent monitoring MS-13 or a drug cartel?
Anyways uh my dad called me a pedophile once when he saw the box for my Chihaya F-15E. They never saw me play iM@S yet though.
lol does your dad not like you now or something? You mean he saw something like this?
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2el48ip.jpg)
It helps that I have an interest in military planes and guns, and that everyone knows that I play a lot of video games.
Aha! Your saving grace when the culture censors come online for evaluation!
In fact, my family doesn't really care about my liking to Japanese pop culture in general.
It seems like a lot of forumers here like the jet aircraft version of the girls? Is that like a reverse Strike Witches/Sky Girls thing or something? I thought moe girls come from objects, do girl characters get assigned to objects too now?
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My dad was messing around with me. I don't think my parents really care too much, but I still find it awkward to bring up things about anime or such with them.
My friends think it's awkward as hell, but they don't really care either since I pretty much play the same stuff they play (Battlefield 3 and the sorts) too.
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My dad was messing around with me. I don't think my parents really care too much, but I still find it awkward to bring up things about anime or such with them.
My friends think it's awkward as hell, but they don't really care either since I pretty much play the same stuff they play (Battlefield 3 and the sorts) too.
Yeah... I don't know that any parent can call their kid a pedophile and have it just be "messing around". I know if I were a parent I might on occasion think something like... "My son's not able to make any grandkids with those girls in the tv is he... *sigh* so much for being a grandpa... Guess I better start asking co-workers if they have a daughter or niece my son's age, hopefully I can introduce him and they'll like each other... otherwise..."
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I do work for the Australian Classification Board. (You know, those guys who put ratings in Australia, for their games) and from time to time, I get contracted to do some of their police work.
Namely the stuff that either State police (Victoria's strangely guilty as all hell for asking really often) or the Australian Federal Police refer on for classification.
In short, it's stuff that most people get arrested for watching, consequently the lockdown. (I might add the rules are stricter here, and I tend to talk about 'Technical RC' a lot, and not in a nice way either. Sometimes I'm convinced Australia's full of prudes.)
Among people who usually wait in the lounge room or wait outside my house for five minutes while I pack up include police officers of all types.
Most people don't like keeping impatient police officers waiting. They got the hint after the first couple of visits that I WILL make them wait, because I take my operational security seriously.
It also probably says something about me, to be able to do it for a couple of years.
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I do work for the Australian Classification Board. (You know, those guys who put ratings in Australia, for their games) and from time to time, I get contracted to do some of their police work.
Namely the stuff that either State police (Victoria's strangely guilty as all hell for asking really often) or the Australian Federal Police refer on for classification.
In short, it's stuff that most people get arrested for watching, consequently the lockdown. (I might add the rules are stricter here, and I tend to talk about 'Technical RC' a lot, and not in a nice way either. Sometimes I'm convinced Australia's full of prudes.)
Among people who usually wait in the lounge room or wait outside my house for five minutes while I pack up include police officers of all types.
Most people don't like keeping impatient police officers waiting. They got the hint after the first couple of visits that I WILL make them wait, because I take my operational security seriously.
It also probably says something about me, to be able to do it for a couple of years.
Well, sounds like I don't want to get on your bad side.
@Sakura: I wish I had a Chihaya F-15E.
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Well, it's one reason why I get worried of people walking in the door. One of the others includes the fact I worry if anyone walks in during a freelance commission is the fact I can go to jail for exposing people to the material I've been commissioned to write a report on.
Then again, I don't think I've told many people what I DO as a sideline either, and I'm fairly sure that if anyone ever walked in while I work, I'd probably be seen as one of the sickest (insert string of explicitives here) individuals on the planet, who somehow can actually claim it they watch it for work.
But on a serious note, I'm more or less harmless apart from that. (And possibly if I ever go rogue, get other people arrested by putting illegal material on their computers, but that's a professional archive thing I have to maintain.)
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Well, it's one reason why I get worried of people walking in the door. One of the others includes the fact I worry if anyone walks in during a freelance commission is the fact I can go to jail for exposing people to the material I've been commissioned to write a report on.
Then again, I don't think I've told many people what I DO as a sideline either, and I'm fairly sure that if anyone ever walked in while I work, I'd probably be seen as one of the sickest (insert string of explicitives here) individuals on the planet, who somehow can actually claim it they watch it for work.
But on a serious note, I'm more or less harmless apart from that. (And possibly if I ever go rogue, get other people arrested by putting illegal material on their computers, but that's a professional archive thing I have to maintain.)
Wait a second, if this stuff is so sick and horrible, why do the police need a specialist to give it classification? Can't they themselves just add "violent beastiality" or "snuff film" or "actual gangrape film" themselves? You're writing a report? I think I've seen one of these text reports before as a court document pdf that was being shared around on 4chan for its shock value, it spells out in detail the various acts and gestures that occur in the scenes, is that the kinds of reports you mean?
As for Australians being prudes, I don't know about that, but some of the censorship laws that have been signed into place by legislators in Australia really do seem strange... like that law about no more A-cup porn permitted to be filmed? It's not difficult to kind of see the angle they were going for with that... but it doesn't seem like an effective measure to take. Seems more like grand-standing and appealing to constitutients' fears for political gain, amirite?
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True story from an... FBI agent (I think), cybercrime division I heard one day.
FBI: "OPEN UP, FBI!"
From inside the house: *ker-chack* *shotgun blast*
Occupant: "Come on in!"
Back on topic, I really don't take steps to announce to the world my Idolm@ster fandom... otaku are wide and varied, and I accept that most people I meet aren't really going to be into the same stuff I am. In fact, I only know two people that would have any idea what to get me for a present.
I think my family knows that I really like video games and anime, and they're cool with it. I don't know what they'd think if they saw me playing Im@s, if they liked it that'd be cool. If not, meh.
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Holy crap... you must be a girl right? If not... where the heck do you live!? o.0
Nah, I'm a guy, and I live in Canada, lol.
My dad saw me playing some Im@s 1 and LFY back in '08, and all he ever asked me was what the girls were saying. Then in March or April of '11, when he saw me play it again, all he said was, "You're playing this again?". Then the Portstation version comes out on October, and the only comment he made about that was, "I thought you had this already". That's the only comments I ever heard from my dad (or from anyone in my family for that matter) about the games.
I played Im@s Dearly Stars and SP plenty of times on the bus, and at work. Either no one notices what I play, or they just don't care to comment on it. XD
I don't think anyone has noticed me playing the G4Us so far either, but I imagine no one would care. I only really played it in front of my best friend, but that was 'cause when he was over, he wanted pictures of the twins. :P
Also, my nieces love S4U. ;D
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Oh god just remembered my worst incident involving iM@S.
I was playing iM@S Perfect Sun during lunch break at school, and I was just talking to my friends going "Damn I really can't understand Japanese." Some random girl at my table was like "Oh! I can!" and proceeds to look to see if she could help translate. She looks for a second and suddenly yells "OH GOD HE'S PLAYING ONE OF THOSE GAMES WHERE YOU RAPE GIRLS" and I'm just sitting there dumbfounded while some people at surrounding tables stare at me for a moment. There's a good reason why I don't like playing games in public.
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God damn, LOL. I guess I should consider myself lucky.
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Oh god just remembered my worst incident involving iM@S.
I was playing iM@S Perfect Sun during lunch break at school, and I was just talking to my friends going "Damn I really can't understand Japanese." Some random girl at my table was like "Oh! I can!" and proceeds to look to see if she could help translate. She looks for a second and suddenly yells "OH GOD HE'S PLAYING ONE OF THOSE GAMES WHERE YOU RAPE GIRLS" and I'm just sitting there dumbfounded while some people at surrounding tables stare at me for a moment. There's a good reason why I don't like playing games in public.
That's kinda messed up, actually.
Yeah that's the thing though... I know intelligent productive helpful people who would want anyone they caught playing something that looked like pic 2 or 3 to publically register as a molester or something...
You work for the government? o.o *imagines James Bond settling down to a game of IM@S after blowing up a military base.
Aha! Your saving grace when the culture censors come online for evaluation!
It seems like a lot of forumers here like the jet aircraft version of the girls? Is that like a reverse Strike Witches/Sky Girls thing or something? I thought moe girls come from objects, do girl characters get assigned to objects too now?
-That's sad, really. But then again, different cultures, different expectations. Still, I would hope that people would just at least try and find out what something is rather than react on knee-jerk thoughts.
-I've heard of soldiers that are into anime. In fact, I remember watching an Im@s 2 stream from a guy who was stationed at Misawa AFB. Also wouldn't be a big stretch if a few Special Forces operators are into anime in general.
-Yep, it's nice to have other things that you're interested at.
-As for the planes, there's another game made by Namco called Ace Combat; since Idolm@ster is also made by Namco (well, Namco Bandai), they put up Idolm@ster themed skins as a way to promote their own products. Which makes it funny to see a USAF Colonel fly a red F-22 with Haruka on it.
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@SakuraMaxX: so which idol were you producing at the time? ;)
In general, I don't let other people influence my gaming. I turned into one of those "grownups" a long time ago, so I don't live under someone else's rules. If my friends criticized my gaming, which they don't, I would just bash their tastes mercilessly. I do generally game in public, because I don't give a rat's ass if people don't like video games, but there are a few that I leave home, because nosy people can really ruin your day. No sense in provoking people if you can avoid it. IM@S is one- also, rhythm games, because I would look like a spaz playing them.
Portables weren't too advanced during my high school days, but I probably would've left mine at home anyway- at school, you are exposing yourself to potential loss, breakage, theft, and confiscation.
I don't discuss gaming with my coworkers- who knows what will set "normal" people off? Plus, I don't want to know what they like either. But I have snuck in a few games during some especially horrible conference calls.
As long as we're discussing negative encounters... in 2000 I was driving long distance, and I needed to stop and take a break because I was sleepy. Whipped out my gameboy and started playing... a little kid sidled up to the car while I was focused on playing. He said, "Why are you playing games? Games are for kids." Fuck you, kid.
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Wait a second, if this stuff is so sick and horrible, why do the police need a specialist to give it classification? Can't they themselves just add "violent beastiality" or "snuff film" or "actual gangrape film" themselves? You're writing a report? I think I've seen one of these text reports before as a court document pdf that was being shared around on 4chan for its shock value, it spells out in detail the various acts and gestures that occur in the scenes, is that the kinds of reports you mean?
As for Australians being prudes, I don't know about that, but some of the censorship laws that have been signed into place by legislators in Australia really do seem strange... like that law about no more A-cup porn permitted to be filmed? It's not difficult to kind of see the angle they were going for with that... but it doesn't seem like an effective measure to take. Seems more like grand-standing and appealing to constitutients' fears for political gain, amirite?
Standardised reporting. Generally I annotate for a board member (Although occasionally they just get me to sign it) and basically it's mostly a full detail with full technical terms of what the material contains. We're particularly specific, and particularly if a case goes to court, being general isn't enough. You need to basically need to detail it step by step.
It's particularly important because there's a significant amount of material referred to from police which ISN'T illegal, and basically wastes 8 hours. (You have no idea how many reports of a manga go 'There is no case 8 infractions - participants are voluntary, age indeterminate, cannot be proven under 18, no fetishes restricted by Australian Law.')
The reason this happens is mostly when a police raid happens, and the police want to have extra ammunition. They almost always walk away disappointed, and although I've been asked to bend it a bit, I point out that I'm not going to write anything that I can't defend in court, and they sometimes even get free legal advice from me (Namely 'This isn't going to fly for a judge panel')
It's not even particularly shocking - it's in fact REALLY, REALLY boring to read. Basically, if you want to be turned off sex, violence or any other deviant stuff, try reading an internal classifications report. It'll bore you to tears, because we can make ANYTHING sound boring.
I've been previously asked to attend court as an expert witness (Which is a bit strange for someone without a university degree, but apparently they trust me enough to actually do it properly.) and the like. I don't do it very often, but I can.
Needless to say though, those reports I'm not going to publish.
But yeah, given that, I just sort of shrug it off. Few people know what I do, and even less know that I do im@s on the side. It's kinda refreshing if someone DOES bring it up, because it avoids the usual 'So what else do you do in your spare time?' question, which is the above.
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Nobody cares.
Not my family. Not my friends.
S'all good.
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But I have snuck in a few games during some especially horrible conference calls.
Ahaha, the volume switch... I can just imagine some half-asleep conference with people trying desperately not to nod off around a brown table and a boring guy droning out in monotone pointing at a chart.... and all of a sudden from one guy's groin area comes.....
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WATASHI SHINY SMILE!!!
It's particularly important because there's a significant amount of material referred to from police which ISN'T illegal, and basically wastes 8 hours. (You have no idea how many reports of a manga go 'There is no case 8 infractions - participants are voluntary, age indeterminate, cannot be proven under 18, no fetishes restricted by Australian Law.')
Hmmm, with that A-cup law I'd thought reading any manga with any nudity of any kind would get an Australian drawn and quartered, or at least castrated... physically, not chemically that is.
Still... a fascinating line of work, I can only wonder at how de-sensitizing it might be, like those municipal body collectors in cities with high crime who sometimes make up to a dozen stops per night, I don't think anything could make some of those people cringe in the slightest...
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My younger brother doesn't mind (but he's hooked to Eri. XD). So does my older one.
Given the amount of time invested in, and variety of anime I've watched, I don't think my parents care.
My RL friends doesn't seem to mind, though he's not curious either.
So yeah. Not really scared. I don't have a reason yet.
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@SakuraMaxX: so which idol were you producing at the time? ;)
Of all people she could've said that about, I was producing Makoto...
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Hmmm, with that A-cup law I'd thought reading any manga with any nudity of any kind would get an Australian drawn and quartered, or at least castrated... physically, not chemically that is.
Still... a fascinating line of work, I can only wonder at how de-sensitizing it might be, like those municipal body collectors in cities with high crime who sometimes make up to a dozen stops per night, I don't think anything could make some of those people cringe in the slightest...
It's not a law. It was a suggested ruling. It was oversensationalised, and believe me, they heard hell from me once I was given a record of the minutes of that meeting in question.
The law states anything that 'appeared to be' under 18 would be deemed illegal.
The classification board tried to (badly in my opinion) give it metrics, since well, they needed a leg to stand on, after a tricky case or two.
I kindly wrote back and pointed out that you'd also discriminate about 1/3 of the world's population who were (for lack of better words) less than filled out.
It proved tricky, but essentially they let me have the point. The real existence of that ruling was an attempt to make it easier to determine the above clause, and as long as I could dance my way around it with my own observations, they let me. (Court precedent has a few advantages, if you're the one who did them.)
Personally I find it a bunch of crap, because you can be thirty, wearing a school dress and be classified as 'seems under 18' for the purposes of the law, and it get ratcheded up as a technical RC. (This comes up surprisingly often in US adult imports.)
Basically two thirds of the classification board's work is with adult material. I normally stay in the other third, but I've been asked quite a few times to work on the other two thirds, usually due to the fact I'm strangely one of the few accessors who aren't attached to a company and will work for hire.
I've decided to stop doing it recently though, mostly due to injury though.
Of all people she could've said that about, I was producing Makoto...
Well, the best part is that when people want to try set you up, they'll want to set you up.
If you want to do a similar lesson, just do the exact reverse when she listens to one of the boy bands, then point out the lyrics. There's a lot of fun in THAT if you listen closely enough, let me tell you...
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No, not scared at the very least considering that I have watched so many shows with cute girls that it doesn't really matter too much. However, my mom went in the room while I was playing Idolmaster 2 and just asked why I was playing that game... but she never questioned me again.
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It's not a law. It was a suggested ruling. It was oversensationalised, and believe me, they heard hell from me once I was given a record of the minutes of that meeting in question.
The law states anything that 'appeared to be' under 18 would be deemed illegal.
The classification board tried to (badly in my opinion) give it metrics, since well, they needed a leg to stand on, after a tricky case or two.
I kindly wrote back and pointed out that you'd also discriminate about 1/3 of the world's population who were (for lack of better words) less than filled out.
It proved tricky, but essentially they let me have the point. The real existence of that ruling was an attempt to make it easier to determine the above clause, and as long as I could dance my way around it with my own observations, they let me. (Court precedent has a few advantages, if you're the one who did them.)
Personally I find it a bunch of crap, because you can be thirty, wearing a school dress and be classified as 'seems under 18' for the purposes of the law, and it get ratcheded up as a technical RC. (This comes up surprisingly often in US adult imports.)
Basically two thirds of the classification board's work is with adult material. I normally stay in the other third, but I've been asked quite a few times to work on the other two thirds, usually due to the fact I'm strangely one of the few accessors who aren't attached to a company and will work for hire.
I've decided to stop doing it recently though, mostly due to injury though.
Well, the best part is that when people want to try set you up, they'll want to set you up.
If you want to do a similar lesson, just do the exact reverse when she listens to one of the boy bands, then point out the lyrics. There's a lot of fun in THAT if you listen closely enough, let me tell you...
Setsuna defended the honor of smaller-bosom'd women everywhere against the Australian legal sytem! Epic! :o
No, not scared at the very least considering that I have watched so many shows with cute girls that it doesn't really matter too much. However, my mom went in the room while I was playing Idolmaster 2 and just asked why I was playing that game... but she never questioned me again.
lol what did you say to answer your mom's question?
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Oh, forgot to mention: My family didn't say much about the cake (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z104/AweOfShe1/Yayoi/SAM_1786.jpg) either. In fact, I shared some of it with them (and a couple of friends). ;)
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Oh, forgot to mention: My family didn't say much about the cake (http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z104/AweOfShe1/Yayoi/SAM_1786.jpg) either. In fact, I shared some of it with them (and a couple of friends). ;)
Oh my God... you're one of those fans even 2ch'ers go o.0 at... Ok I seriously don't understand your family at all now, in the sense that I've never quite heard of a family like your's.
I mean most of the other instances of the cake/date/birthday/valentine/foreveralone pics were of guys who lived by themselves... Hmm... I guess if your parents thought of Yayoi as a cute pokemon you had collected instead of an actual romantic interest it would be more understandable... and oh my god are those CANDLES IN THAT PICTURE wtfbbq? o.o
Ok no... no... how could parents be this accepting? To someone unfamiliar with anime/manga/otaku that would look like some kind of movie serial killer shrine. You have hypnotized them or something right... maybe you're a staight-A student and star athlete (which lets them know you're doing ok?)... I don't know... I can't explain it... this is just so mysterious... nazo desu.
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Oh my God... you're one of those fans even 2ch'ers go o.0 at... Ok I seriously don't understand your family at all now, in the sense that I've never quite heard of a family like your's.
I mean most of the other instances of the cake/date/birthday/valentine/foreveralone pics were of guys who lived by themselves... Hmm... I guess if your parents thought of Yayoi as a cute pokemon you had collected instead of an actual romantic interest it would be more understandable... and oh my god are those CANDLES IN THAT PICTURE wtfbbq? o.o
Ok no... no... how could parents be this accepting? To someone unfamiliar with anime/manga/otaku that would look like some kind of movie serial killer shrine. You have hypnotized them or something right... maybe you're a staight-A student and star athlete (which lets them know you're doing ok?)... I don't know... I can't explain it... this is just so mysterious... nazo desu.
Hmmm...no offense here but you should really reconsider what you just typed there....
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Hmmm...no offense here but you should really reconsider what you just typed there....
Maybe there's been a miscommunication here. I'm a huge IM@S fan as well, else I wouldn't be here and helping with translating. I'm not putting anyone or anyone's tastes or acts down, I'm saying that others unfamiliar with this kind of media would often have an adverse reaction to it. Also, I've seen HUNDREDS of these kinds of shrines already, usually 2ch'ers will put out a photo collage whenever a lot of them are created at once, such as on a birthday, but I hadn't thought that any English speakers were doing this, let alone so brazenly and in mixed company.
I mean in some of those photos, fans will try to spoon-feed the character on the screen, or show filled out marriage forms they got from the county clerk that they'd filled out with those chars' name on it, also they will sometimes purchase a new bed/cradle or surrender their own bed so the setup is... "resting" or... um.. something like that... on top of the bed, kind of making it seem like the char were laying on bed in front of them.
Heck I like Yayoi a lot too and I think the setup AweOfShe had there is cute. But from my own experience I can't imagine people being so accomodating to something like this. Remember that recent post about someone screaming about "RAPE GAMES" when they went over to check one of the forumers here playing a hand-held IM@S game? That's the kind of reaction that would be expectable, that's all.
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Maybe there's been a miscommunication here. I'm a huge IM@S fan as well, else I wouldn't be here and helping with translating. I'm not putting anyone or anyone's tastes or acts down, I'm saying that others unfamiliar with this kind of media would often have an adverse reaction to it. Also, I've seen HUNDREDS of these kinds of shrines already, usually 2ch'ers will put out a photo collage whenever a lot of them are created at once, such as on a birthday, but I hadn't thought that any English speakers were doing this, let alone so brazenly and in mixed company.
I mean in some of those photos, fans will try to spoon-feed the character on the screen, or show filled out marriage forms they got from the county clerk that they'd filled out with those chars' name on it, also they will sometimes purchase a new bed/cradle or surrender their own bed so the setup is... "resting" or... um.. something like that... on top of the bed, kind of making it seem like the char were laying on bed in front of them.
Heck I like Yayoi a lot too and I think the setup AweOfShe had there is cute. But from my own experience I can't imagine people being so accomodating to something like this. Remember that recent post about someone screaming about "RAPE GAMES" when they went over to check one of the forumers here playing a hand-held IM@S game? That's the kind of reaction that would be expectable, that's all.
I'm just finding your lack of faith in what you love...
Not that I want to disagree with you, those comments do bothering.
But don't let those blinded people back down your interests.
And if you know the people around you are blinded so much, just try to avoid them at all cost.
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Well, I have nothing much to say on it. All I can really say is that I have really cool family and friends, for knowing that my hobbies don't get in the way of my priorities in life. ;D
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I'm paranoid.
I do get some flak from my sis and her father about not living up to the expectations of a stereotypical adolescent male; intelligent, diligent, respectful, and tough. They seem to view my iM@S interest (as well as my Anime and Manga interest) as something that conflicts with what they expect of me. My sis' mother is otherwise more tolerant about it, though she herself asks questions as to why I want such a game.
My friends, who all pretty much were raised on cartoon violence, hollywood explosions, and random mainstream pop music, would be intolerant and berate me or make fun of me for having such an interest.
Oh well.
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...But from my own experience...
Calm down here. You're basing a situation through what you've seen which doesn't necessarily apply here.
Edit: Look, there are people there that will take a look at this and scream out and do whatever. But there's people out there that take a step back and just try and consider everything before they make a judgement. AweOfShe's friends and family seem to be like that. Plus, who says no to cake?
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Oh my God... you're one of those fans even 2ch'ers go o.0 at... Ok I seriously don't understand your family at all now, in the sense that I've never quite heard of a family like your's.
I mean most of the other instances of the cake/date/birthday/valentine/foreveralone pics were of guys who lived by themselves... Hmm... I guess if your parents thought of Yayoi as a cute pokemon you had collected instead of an actual romantic interest it would be more understandable... and oh my god are those CANDLES IN THAT PICTURE wtfbbq? o.o
Ok no... no... how could parents be this accepting? To someone unfamiliar with anime/manga/otaku that would look like some kind of movie serial killer shrine. You have hypnotized them or something right... maybe you're a staight-A student and star athlete (which lets them know you're doing ok?)... I don't know... I can't explain it... this is just so mysterious... nazo desu.
My parents let me import my eroge.
I am a lady.
They are okay with this.
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Calm down here.
Is someone not calm? I thought everything was calm? :o
You're basing a situation through what you've seen which doesn't necessarily apply here.
Yes, that's true of anything though, and all we ever have to go on is what we've read and known and experienced so that's all we ever have from which to infer conclusions at any given moment. Hence my caveat of "My own experience". If I somehow communicated that I had a firm conviction and belief in such conclusions then that was a miscommunication, I did not and do not presume to express the idea that this is absolutely how a vast majority of people should or could react.
Edit: Look, there are people there that will take a look at this and scream out and do whatever. But there's people out there that take a step back and just try and consider everything before they make a judgement. AweOfShe's friends and family seem to be like that. Plus, who says no to cake?
Yes, it is surprising, but in a good way, that there are people who will have an open-mind towards something unfamiliar in the way IM@S is. I get the feeling that AweOfShe is loaded, and has tons of IM@S loot, and an open-minded family and friends, and also cake... :)
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Ah, well then...good day we're having, huh?
It's probably because I come from a place where anime and manga is tolerated anyway.
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I'm not rich or anything. I just don't follow as many franchises as I used to, haha.
And I'm STILL catching up on the pre-2nd-Vision merchandise. I focused more on the games over the merchandise TBH. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people here that have more loot than I do. XD
Also, I have the joy of playing Im@s with the nieces, as they fight over who is which idol. They mostly fight over who gets to be Mami. It's very cute and entertaining... ;D
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lol what did you say to answer your mom's question?
Didn't say much... but still, its better than playing shooting games, which I'm really bad at.
In a sense, Idolmaster motivated me to learn some Japanese on my own.
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I don't care about any of those aspects that people pay attention to when it comes to Japan. Strike that, I feel sympathy for the tsunami victims and those ousted from their homes due to the nuclear incident. That's natural though, but I try to pay little attention to the aimless finger pointing. I grew tired of such finger pointing years ago... when I found it got people absolutely nowhere. The people inciting are usually ignorant, the people accused are generally victimized due to misunderstanding... it doesn't facilitate the "unity" folks declare they want out of the world today.
Not "tolerance," that's an awful word to use for it. You can only "tolerate" something for so long until... well... you don't anymore. Best to just accept it and get on with your life. If it isn't infringing on your own beliefs and values? Who cares? If it is... then care. Just care appropriately... if that makes sense.
As for iDOLM@STER?
It's fiction. The voice actresses, the music, the writers, the programmers, the producers (of a Producer) are real. Great, but the universe is fiction and not grounded in reality whatsoever. It may derive elements from reality (idols and the business), but at no point is it a direct correlation towards what is here in this world we live in. I like it that way, where fiction is fiction and reality is reality.
I'm a foster provider for two teenage girls. I started doing this before I had a substantial enjoyment of iM@S in general. Ignore what is portrayed in fiction on TV about the foster care industry, this isn't one of those homes that attempts to just "stockpile" children to rake in money. Most of the girls that have come here have some... at times... deep seeded issues. It's a case-by-case basis. At no point should that alter what I'm used to, seeing as how none of my interests or beliefs are inappropriate or dangerous. They have professional therapy to address any issues they have, all the while they are taught societal expectations and responsibilities while under this roof. If it works? Groovy. If it doesn't? Most of the time they're sent to a place that can help them. It's up to them if they want the help, it's also up to them if they want to succeed.
You'd be surprised how few opt to accept that help.
Anime, manga, this franchise... none of it dictates who I am in entirety. I don't talk about my interests with someone that doesn't share them. What's the point? I have plenty of friends with no interest in any of those whatsoever. They also don't talk about their interests they hold in which I personally have none. That doesn't mean we can't relate on different things, it's good that way. I don't care what folks think about any of my interests. If they want to insult me because of it? Then they'll be no friend of mine. No need to keep negative influences around, might as well stick to the positive.
I make no bones about what I enjoy. Nobody of importance has given me guff about it yet. Most reasonable folks tend to think of insulting the harmless interests of another as a fruitless endeavor.
People like that are my kind of fellas.
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My opinion on being an iDOLM@STER fan is similar to being a Brony (I'm not one, if you're wondering). The same sort of social stigma is there, but there is an amount of tolerance. My friends are somewhat tolerant of liking iDOLM@STER, albeit some like to poke a little fun at it, but it doesn't define ones personality.
I should really switch into humanities after what I just said...
On a different note, people who walk by me playing iDOLM@STER 2 in the student lounge (I bring my PS3/360 into the lounge on occasion) simply wonder what I was playing, then continue on with what they were doing.
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I don't care about any of those aspects that people pay attention to when it comes to Japan. Strike that, I feel sympathy for the tsunami victims and those ousted from their homes due to the nuclear incident. That's natural though, but I try to pay little attention to the aimless finger pointing. I grew tired of such finger pointing years ago... when I found it got people absolutely nowhere. The people inciting are usually ignorant, the people accused are generally victimized due to misunderstanding... it doesn't facilitate the "unity" folks declare they want out of the world today.
Not "tolerance," that's an awful word to use for it. You can only "tolerate" something for so long until... well... you don't anymore. Best to just accept it and get on with your life. If it isn't infringing on your own beliefs and values? Who cares? If it is... then care. Just care appropriately... if that makes sense.
As for iDOLM@STER?
It's fiction. The voice actresses, the music, the writers, the programmers, the producers (of a Producer) are real. Great, but the universe is fiction and not grounded in reality whatsoever. It may derive elements from reality (idols and the business), but at no point is it a direct correlation towards what is here in this world we live in. I like it that way, where fiction is fiction and reality is reality.
I'm a foster provider for two teenage girls. I started doing this before I had a substantial enjoyment of iM@S in general. Ignore what is portrayed in fiction on TV about the foster care industry, this isn't one of those homes that attempts to just "stockpile" children to rake in money. Most of the girls that have come here have some... at times... deep seeded issues. It's a case-by-case basis. At no point should that alter what I'm used to, seeing as how none of my interests or beliefs are inappropriate or dangerous. They have professional therapy to address any issues they have, all the while they are taught societal expectations and responsibilities while under this roof. If it works? Groovy. If it doesn't? Most of the time they're sent to a place that can help them. It's up to them if they want the help, it's also up to them if they want to succeed.
You'd be surprised how few opt to accept that help.
Anime, manga, this franchise... none of it dictates who I am in entirety. I don't talk about my interests with someone that doesn't share them. What's the point? I have plenty of friends with no interest in any of those whatsoever. They also don't talk about their interests they hold in which I personally have none. That doesn't mean we can't relate on different things, it's good that way. I don't care what folks think about any of my interests. If they want to insult me because of it? Then they'll be no friend of mine. No need to keep negative influences around, might as well stick to the positive.
I make no bones about what I enjoy. Nobody of importance has given me guff about it yet. Most reasonable folks tend to think of insulting the harmless interests of another as a fruitless endeavor.
People like that are my kind of fellas.
Everything in this post.
I can never understand why is it so difficult for such close-minded fools to grasp that it takes significantly less effort to just walk away without saying a word than to use their pea-sized brains to come up with an insult against anime/manga, etc.
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IMO, it's more of a things guys have to worry about than girls, because of the misconceptions. iM@S either looks pretty "girly" to outsiders, or dodgy (in a pedo-ish way).
Nobody cares that I like iM@S (I'm a girl btw); my siblings like it, and my dad thinks it's a huge waste of money for a "dress-up game."
Sadly, I can't order overtly risqué/sexual things like Dream Club (which I'm trying to get my hands on) for a number of reasons. My dad let me order Catherine and other M-rated games, as I'm old enough to play it -- he probably wouldn't care about Dream Club, either, as long as he didn't see screenshots of it. ::) My mother, however, would object, so I have to be sneaky. >>;
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I feel so sorry for you. ;~;
My parents buy my eroge for me.
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I feel so sorry for you. ;~;
My parents buy my eroge for me.
Your parents are pretty awesome. XD
And Sadist mentioning Dream Club; I still have to 1000GS those games (and Gal*Gun for that matter). >_>
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No, I'm not scared at all!
My parents know of it,and they only see it as "annoying j-pop",while my little sister loves S4U! /o/
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don't really care
heard comments about why I'm playing a girly game when i played Project Diva and iM@S SP in public though
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Being gay helps pretty well in convincing people that I'm not into it for perverted reasons. My female roommate likes to watch me play and even has her own fave/least fave idols.
My boyfriend just takes a nap when I play it. :)
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Nope. Probably because being a girl makes liking games about cute dancing girls less "taboo".
Also, I am very proud of my weeabooness, as it shows with my various posters around my room.
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Kinda.To my family no. To my friends no*I even showed my friend once and he thought it was chinese*,but to everyone else yes because they might get the reception;but then yet again I'm like a ninja with hiding iM@S stuff.
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No, I actually wish more people liked IM@S
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I'm the one who actually spread iM@S around my area, so nope. Not afraid at all.
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I'm the one who actually spread iM@S around my area, so nope. Not afraid at all.
Wow you are a brave person. What country are you in?
Your website is really well-made and cool. Wow your NND how-to-register guide is from 2000! What dedication!! 0_0 I am awed by your devotion to our beloved idols...
On some of the webpages there's a
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msg, not sure what that's about.
How many people have become idolmaster fans due to your ministry?
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I'm an American.
As for the site, the 2000 date was so it wouldn't get mixed in-between news. I didn't create the site, but joined the team that did as an editor. I'll check out those error pages though, thanks.
As for how many became fans, I have no clue. I've let several people play my copy of L4U, and so interest sparked. The rest of it spread by word of mouth.
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I'm an American.
As for the site, the 2000 date was so it wouldn't get mixed in-between news. I didn't create the site, but joined the team that did as an editor. I'll check out those error pages though, thanks.
As for how many became fans, I have no clue. I've let several people play my copy of L4U, and so interest sparked. The rest of it spread by word of mouth.
An American! Now this is downright interesting... Well... I'm not sure if anything further can be conclusively inferred from any specific details so there's probably no point...
If I could ask... why is it called the "Gentlemen's" guide?
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Because it's all about the ladies for the men!
But now that Jupiter is around perhaps it is a different story?
I used to really love idolm@ster m@d world service, but now it's more fun to go search yourself.
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It was a subtitle the sure had been using for a few months, so I didn't have a say I in it. However, you know how much make fans there are when it comes to iM@S. That's most likely the reason.
Is it really surprising as an American?
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I'm not really scared about it. People have pretty much got the point that I like what I like. I'll browse iM@S videos on NicoNicoDouga at school. I'll play Dearly Stars on my DS in public locations. I don't usually openly blab about it though- only if someone asks. I've actually sparked some interest amongst some of my fellow musicians in band.
As for my parents. . . They generally don't care. My younger brother's in that obnoxious eighth-grader phase where he has to apparently hate any and all things that aren't Madden or Call of Duty. . . Only for me to produce a volume of Ouran High School Host Club that he hasn't read yet. That will usually shut him up and keep him busy for a bit, locking his door and hiding in the closet and generally pretending he doesn't exist until he's done reading.
But yeah, my parents don't usually mind. My dad will even buy me much raunchier games on occasion despite me being underage. iDOLM@STER is very old news to them, though I plan to get my own copy of iM@S 2 this summer. :3
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Because it's all about the ladies for the men!
I see... thank you for the clarification.
My dad will even buy me much raunchier games on occasion despite me being underage.
lol Lucky Star Konata moment @_@ \amdizzy
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Treemotan, this is exactly the same for me, but I just became of age!!
I did use my parents to buy many an eroge though. ^^
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LOL.Let me guess here and say your brothers have attitude problems.I actually play iM@S SP more intensly than Call of Duty.
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Treemotan, this is exactly the same for me, but I just became of age!!
I did use my parents to buy many an eroge though. ^^
Eh, I'll be legal in four months. Then no one shall keep me from my porn.
Best part about my dad is that he knows full well what he's buying me. My mom doesn't. She's usually too busy playing StarCraft to notice what I'm playing in my room.
LOL.Let me guess here and say your brothers have attitude problems.I actually play iM@S SP more intensly than Call of Duty.
Partially comes from him being a middle-school boy who happens to have many extremely judgmental "friends". You know, the kind that beat you up for doing your own thing and treating you like a bro when you do what they do. Very few know of his secret love for Shoujo manga.
I also managed to get him to watch some of the iDOLM@STER anime with me. . . And managed to get a few band friends interested. Sort of payback for them making me a Brony.
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Best part about my dad is that he knows full well what he's buying me. My mom doesn't. She's usually too busy playing StarCraft to notice what I'm playing in my room.
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Wow... the times they are a changin'...
I'm still young enough looking that I get carded all the time when I buy lotto tickets, but holy crap...
When I was growing up my parents had a small padlock that they put through the hole on the tongs at the end of a power cord to keep me off the computer if I was on it too long... well my parents are East Asian of the proto-typical education-worshipping kind but still... I can't imagine if my parents had been gamers too or something like that... I just... I don't know... hmm...
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Wow... the times they are a changin'...
I'm still young enough looking that I get carded all the time when I buy lotto tickets, but holy crap...
When I was growing up my parents had a small padlock that they put through the hole on the tongs at the end of a power cord to keep me off the computer if I was on it too long... well my parents are East Asian of the proto-typical education-worshipping kind but still... I can't imagine if my parents had been gamers too or something like that... I just... I don't know... hmm...
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God bless my older brother for getting them into gaming. Most of my peers agree I have the coolest parents ever. 8) They actually let me do a lot I'm not legally allowed to do yet, and you can actually see a lot of their logic. For example, they do actually let me drink alcohol. Reasons my mom cited were: 1. I'm 17, so she's fairly certain my liver's developed enough to handle it. 2. The '21 years old' drinking age is stupid. As my mom put it, "If you're old enough to vote and die for your country, then you're old enough to sit down and have a goddamn drink." and 3. She knows full well I'm not the type to drink with the purpose of getting drunk. Interestingly enough, my dad's against me having a shot of Jack Daniels but not against buying me pornographic material, whilst with my mom its the other way around.
But yeah, iM@S is fine by either of them. And my teachers, apparently, since I like to sneak things I like into my school projects. Like, I had to make some videos for Sociology and Government. So, I chose to make them with MMD. . . Using iDOLM@STER models.
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Lol legal age for drinking here is 18 and some shops do allow as low as 16 of course legally they say 18 but at the off-chance some does allow 16 as a drinking age :P given there is an old enough companion.
Okay back to topic xD back in highschool during my 1st and 2nd years Id prolly be embarrassed but after reaching my 4th year of highschool I learned a lot to just not give a damn about what other people think. I tend to chose friends to that I can relate to not friends whom are just friends on the surface. Even so I've had friends who were not into anime and the likes and knows that I love stuff like this especially with the advent of facebook, they do tease me about it but they also tease everyone else for just the heck of it :P.
Atm in college most of my friends are female since more commonly more approachable ironically in college some males are just snobbers for some odd reason >.> and I met them since they are into anime and the likes too.
And I do agree there are much worse things to walk into eroges xD and sometimes in my classes you'd find some girls actually playing them in the middle of the class xDDDD
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Partially comes from him being a middle-school boy who happens to have many extremely judgmental "friends". You know, the kind that beat you up for doing your own thing and treating you like a bro when you do what they do. Very few know of his secret love for Shoujo manga.
I also managed to get him to watch some of the iDOLM@STER anime with me. . . And managed to get a few band friends interested. Sort of payback for them making me a Brony.
That's kinda horrible since he can't do anything or he will face conflict and he's being pressured by his "friends".Well there are very few things to do about it and he has to keep being himself and you also ;).
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My parents don't care. Dad only often whines about the fact that they got the body of a women but the face of a girl XD
Mom loves to look at it. She just loves the artwork.
A friend of mine owns a Hoshii Miki figure but that's about it. =)
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My parents don't care. Dad only often whines about the fact that they got the body of a women but the face of a girl XD
Mom loves to look at it. She just loves the artwork.
A friend of mine owns a Hoshii Miki figure but that's about it. =)
Your dad should share where he got his credentials in 3D polygon-biology from. Do you remember which idol(s) he was talking about?
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Your dad should share where he got his credentials in 3D polygon-biology from. Do you remember which idol(s) he was talking about?
He was talking about anime girls in general =) Mostly Yoko from Gurren Lagann since a friend of mine showed her to him and he made that commentary.
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I think it would be social suicide.
My parents know that I listen to Japanese pop music, but I don't think they know about iDOLM@STERS. I am sure no one I know nor anyone I ever meet will know about it, but I still desperately hide it, except from a few times bringing it up around close friends... I wish I knew someone personally I could confide my love of iM@S too, but I guess you guys are all I got xP
I'm very much scared of someone who doesn't understand it finding out, but I'll take that risk and keep rocking math class to CHANGE!!
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I think it would be social suicide.
My parents know that I listen to Japanese pop music, but I don't think they know about iDOLM@STERS. I am sure no one I know nor anyone I ever meet will know about it, but I still desperately hide it, except from a few times bringing it up around close friends... I wish I knew someone personally I could confide my love of iM@S too, but I guess you guys are all I got xP
I'm very much scared of someone who doesn't understand it finding out, but I'll take that risk and keep rocking math class to CHANGE!!
You sound like Kirino from Oreimo!!
Just relax...there's nothing to be ashamed of...it's not like you're doing anything illegal. ^^
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A lot of posters here are in high school, where social pressure is an actual concern. It can be tough to deal with the same people every day when you are jammed together for no real reason.
I do as I like, but I never share my likes with my coworkers- I prefer to think of them as workers instead of individuals, and I'm sure they feel the same way.
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I think it would be social suicide.
My parents know that I listen to Japanese pop music, but I don't think they know about iDOLM@STERS. I am sure no one I know nor anyone I ever meet will know about it, but I still desperately hide it, except from a few times bringing it up around close friends... I wish I knew someone personally I could confide my love of iM@S too, but I guess you guys are all I got xP
I'm very much scared of someone who doesn't understand it finding out, but I'll take that risk and keep rocking math class to CHANGE!!
Kinda the same situation for me too, but hang in there bro! :)
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You sound like Kirino from Oreimo!!
Just relax...there's nothing to be ashamed of...it's not like you're doing anything illegal. ^^
It might be illegal if he's in Sweden or Canada or Australia or England, depending on which judge/prosecutor/"activists"/thoughtpolice are on the case or become aware of certain facts and how they decide to act depending on those observations.
I think it was Sweden that banned DoA: Xtreme Beach Volleyball for Kasumi being under 18 even though she looks 28? And Canada like many European nations have draconian 1984-style restrictions on free-speech/art/expression that may even be applied to something as generally harmless as IMAS. Anyway Bro, as the others have posted this is a secret coven where we worship these idols so feel free to indulge in your deviant imagination as you wish for you are among depraved fellows here bwahaha
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It's not like I'm playing Gravure (Which for some reason I think is a synonym for Depravity I don't know why) 4 You or anything!! D:
Wow... could it be illegal? I'm certainly Canadian... How strange.
But yeah, as you said, I think the only way that could happen is if it's some weird free-expression restriction, considering how tame iM@S is compared to something much more... eehh...
I just won't do any weird Touch events with Ami or Mami >_>
Oh,
and I appreciate all the support here! You're all very nice people and that's why I was so relived to find this community where I can confide in things like this and really just gush about my favoritest thing ever.
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It might be illegal if he's in Sweden or Canada or Australia or England, depending on which judge/prosecutor/"activists"/thoughtpolice are on the case or become aware of certain facts and how they decide to act depending on those observations.
I think it was Sweden that banned DoA: Xtreme Beach Volleyball for Kasumi being under 18 even though she looks 28? And Canada like many European nations have draconian 1984-style restrictions on free-speech/art/expression that may even be applied to something as generally harmless as IMAS. Anyway Bro, as the others have posted this is a secret coven where we worship these idols so feel free to indulge in your deviant imagination as you wish for you are among depraved fellows here bwahaha
I know that Australia did something like banning porn with a-cup breasts to help stop child pornography, but Canada?
As a Canadian, I would very much like to know if you have any examples of arrests or restrictions based on any sort of activity similar to iM@S or something.
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I know that Australia did something like banning porn with a-cup breasts to help stop child pornography, but Canada?
As a Canadian, I would very much like to know if you have any examples of arrests or restrictions based on any sort of activity similar to iM@S or something.
wasn't there some Canadian lawyer arrested at an airport once for having Anime/manga images of girls on his laptop? =\
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Scared? Not really. Kinda depends on some stuff.
At home, my family knows I'm into games. Big time. Been playing them all my life, I went to school and got a degree in game design, and for a time I worked for Electronic Arts. (Currently no longer working in the game field, but I'm hoping to transition back.) It's no surprise to them that, given my love for games, I'm into some pretty niche stuff. Imports kinda weird them out since I don't speak Japanese. My recent rush over the last few months to import a bunch of iM@S games (seven of them, as well as a few other JP games like Toradora Portable and Saki Portable) had them asking all the sarcastic questions like "Have you learned Japanese yet?" or "Do you know what they're saying yet?", or the occassional comments like "How do you even know what you're doing?" or "How did you even find out about this?", but otherwise they don't care much.
At work I'm using a generic iM@S wallpaper (black Project-iM@S logo on a white background, very basic and low-key) and so far no one's asked about it. If anyone does, I'll just say it's from a game, but I really hope they don't dig further than that. It would be really awkward to explain. Would I be scared? No. Would I be embarrassed? Probably. But that's only if it happens and I'm happy having the background in the mean time.
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"Have you learned Japanese yet?" or "Do you know what they're saying yet?"
Similar here. But you know what I learned a lot of Japanese from playing The iDOLM@STER.
I've learned a lot of kanji from the interface and I've actually memorized some of the prefectures by now in kanji so you shouldn't take comments like that too harshly. ^^
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wasn't there some Canadian lawyer arrested at an airport once for having Anime/manga images of girls on his laptop? =\
I really don't know. I'm not the best at staying on top of news, so a lot of stories fly right past me.
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Similar here. But you know what I learned a lot of Japanese from playing The iDOLM@STER.
I've learned a lot of kanji from the interface and I've actually memorized some of the prefectures by now in kanji so you shouldn't take comments like that too harshly. ^^
Really? I did this test probably a dozen times, got to about 90%, and then just gave up on it, even natives of any country will generally know only the most well-known of the provinces/state in their country so there's no point in my memorizing all of them. Besides, now that I've played Shogun 2 I keep thinking of provinces that no longer exist like Iga (-> Mie) and screwing up Echigo with modern day Niigata etc.
Try it out:
http://www.purposegames.com/game/modern-japanese-prefectures-quiz
Also, I won't ever screw up the location Niigata again now that I'm just about done reading this online book:
http://www.rcrinc.com/tanaka/index.html
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Really? I did this test probably a dozen times, got to about 90%, and then just gave up on it, even natives of any country will generally know only the most well-known of the provinces/state in their country so there's no point in my memorizing all of them. Besides, now that I've played Shogun 2 I keep thinking of provinces that no longer exist like Iga (-> Mie) and screwing up Echigo with modern day Niigata etc.
Try it out:
http://www.purposegames.com/game/modern-japanese-prefectures-quiz
Not ready...lady for that yet!! ^^;; All I know are the really obvious ones.
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Not ready...lady for that yet!! ^^;; All I know are the really obvious ones.
But all the names are in English letters :O
When I started I didn't know more like than 5 of them but just click around until you get a feel for it and soon you'll be remembering! Also I used shape and sizes (the bottom right triangle is X) to help remember. Don't be afraid to reach for the stars! They are waiting for us!
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But all the names are in English letters :O
When I started I didn't know more like than 5 of them but just click around until you get a feel for it and soon you'll be remembering! Also I used shape and sizes (the bottom right triangle is X) to help remember. Don't be afraid to reach for the stars! They are waiting for us!
That's a cool game. I suck at national geography outside of Canada and the USA, and I've always kind of wanted to know the different prefectures, so this is helpful. Thanks.
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I can't say I'm technically scared of anyone finding out.
My mom knows I'm into anime and Japanese music, so she understands. I'm careful of who might see me watching it, though. Some of my friends and a few adults I know would sit down and watch it with me, while others would question and accuse me of being a perv. I've gotten people hooked on it who didn't like it at first, but that's like a bonus on the side. ;)
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I can't say I'm technically scared of anyone finding out.
My mom knows I'm into anime and Japanese music, so she understands. I'm careful of who might see me watching it, though. Some of my friends and a few adults I know would sit down and watch it with me, while others would question and accuse me of being a perv. I've gotten people hooked on it who didn't like it at first, but that's like a bonus on the side. ;)
Don't you feel like a pusher? An agent of darkness, spreading deviancy and discord among your community? One of Satan's titles after all, is "Prince of the East".
See what eventually happened to Haruka? ^ω^
http://gelbooru.com//samples/514/sample_a957c61d1168f0a6851f57a055a4ad1d12236277.jpg
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Don't you feel like a pusher? An agent of darkness, spreading deviancy and discord among your community? One of Satan's titles after all, is "Prince of the East".
See what eventually happened to Haruka? ^ω^
http://gelbooru.com//samples/514/sample_a957c61d1168f0a6851f57a055a4ad1d12236277.jpg
I don't persuade them intentionally, I just enlighten them to the fact there's more to IM@S than girls dancing on stage in (sometimes) skimpy outfits. XD
And the link didn't work.
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And the link didn't work.
Refresh it...
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Really guys, stop hotlinking. Save it and host it elsewhere.
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Refresh it...
OK, I saw it... Crazy pic XD
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That's a cool game. I suck at national geography outside of Canada and the USA, and I've always kind of wanted to know the different prefectures, so this is helpful. Thanks.
There's another more fun/ridiculous way of learning the prefectures - by going to war!
http://www.kongregate.com/games/ZigZaGame/the-great-war-of-prefectures
Enjoy! :P
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There's another more fun/ridiculous way of learning the prefectures - by going to war!
http://www.kongregate.com/games/ZigZaGame/the-great-war-of-prefectures
Enjoy! :P
lmao it's like the pokemon version of Shogun Total War, except the Greek Gods and other greco-roman things are out-of-place.
It's impressive though, that whole game just for learning the prefects? Thanks for sharing! :)
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So I've set my heart on ordering iDOLM@STERS Star Festa, but I have absolutely no idea of how to go about it, let alone get a credit card without having to involve my parents. And I'm sure that would promote explanations and searches... And then how am I supposed to explain it? :-\
I love iDOLM@STERS, I just hate the stigma! (And the fact that iDOLM@STERS looks so explicitly wrong to anyone who doesn't get it.)
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If you have a bank account, you can pay with Paypal in some shops (PlayAsia?). You just have to transfer money from your normal account to your Paypal one. I'm not taking any responsibility if for some reason you will be stuck battling their customer service, though... ;-/
Other than that, the only solution is giving the money to someone who will order it for you. If you know someone you can trust, that is...
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Get a checking account and a debit card. It works like a credit card and most people aren't going to question why you'd want one knowing it's so you can use money out of a checking account.
Either that or yeah, attach you bank account to Paypal, but I'm not huge on that idea myself.
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I'm not afraid of it, I'm a proud fan~! 8)
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There's bigger things I have to worry about than people finding out about my liking for anime/iM@S on a regular basis. That said, I'm not so much scared of it being found out as much as, if someone does find out "oh boy here we go again" (mostly because offline, I'm the sort of person who doesn't like having to answer repeatedly asked questions, especially if I think them useless - and most of the time, anime-related questions are useless to me). Most of the people who do know about that fondness, though, don't really blink an eyelash. They just see it as an extension of my liking for anime (I never play video games when I have guests over, so they can't judge me based upon gameplay content).
...then again, seeing as I'm female and I live alone, this probably isn't as much of an issue for me as it may be for other people.
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This is a tricky one. On one hand, I refuse to judge people by what they like, unless its something that is EXTREMELY poor-quality or offensive. On the other hand, I know people who are HEAVILY judgmental, not dropping any names or relations. I am more comfortable at school where I DO know quite a few anime fans where I can easily admit to it.
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I don't care. Going to the park or our school's patio and dancing to iM@S tunes is something that I've been doing for a couple of years now, and people don't seem to mind. People actually seemed interested in the songs and dances, and when they learned it was iM@S, they were okay with it. My best friend and I were even allowed to perform Matane at our graduation ceremony.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat as Virgofall, minus being female. For people unfamiliar with anime, they're intrigued by this extension of my personality, my parents included. Furthermore, I have a pretty wide circle of anime friends so there's somewhere to let loose in. Overall, I feel people shouldn't have to be judgmental in light of my interests...
Unless I happen to be doing this (http://youtu.be/LMxTFqPET5I?t=7s) for God knows why, so there's that. x3
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I'm ok with people I'm close to. For instance, I was showing my friend how to play Dearly Stars and I was comfortable with it. But to other people, I'll feel uncomfortable at first, but I guess it'll be ok in the end if they figure out my interests.
Most people I know don't watch anime, so I don't expect them to be overjoyed at the fact that their lives will be taken over by idols just by knowing that I like IM@S.
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I'm not and I've never really felt like I had a reason to be scared about it, especially since I'm female. Also all my friends and my boyfriend are into anime and my grandparents (who I live with) don't care at all about what I like. Although a friend of mine; I got him into Love Live and hes constantly afraid of his friends seeing him watch it since he is male and ofc most people would think of it as "gay" for a guy to watch that kind of stuff. (Which I find pretty funny since most things like Idolm@ster and Love Live are aimed at a male audience predominantly. I guess its a difference between Japan and the US (where me and my friend live.)