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Title: Get the Popcorn! It's the Movies Topic!
Post by: RoninatorMarx on August 06, 2010, 11:09:21 am
We have a topic for games, anime and music, but no movies? C'mon! I know you watch them too.

Just got off the cinema? Or did you open your movie channel and watched an interesting movie you thought is worth sharing? Whatever the case is, this topic shall serve as an overall movies discussion.

You know the drill. Let's get cooking!

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Right now, I've seen The Last Airbender. It's a pretty OK movie, though for those who were expecting a nice live-action adaptation and has yet to see it, you may wanna look away.

Other movies I saw on TV that I wanna mention:

Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian - Epic and funny. A good sequel to the already loved first movie.
My Sassy Girl - It's a simple love story, but I love it. Got me thinking of a lot of things. XD
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Post by: Raestloz on August 06, 2010, 11:25:23 am
Movies? Hmmm... I don't watch movies that much, games are more my style

Last thing I saw was... Oh! That moon series, the one involving wolves and vampires; boy that was so not worth it for me, one maybe because it has lots of love aspect while I like action more, and second because the female heroine is a total *censored*. I mean, make up your mind you stupid ass hottie!
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Post by: lisondra22 on August 06, 2010, 01:10:43 pm
The Last Airbender was pretty trashy.
Inception would be the thing.
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Post by: Tenchy on August 06, 2010, 06:56:57 pm
Watched "The Texas chainsaw massacre" (Original) a couple of hours ago all i have to say is boring......
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Post by: Cien Laguoire on August 06, 2010, 09:17:56 pm
I saw Inception recently. Best movie I've seen this year. I actually suggested this movie to Taco, and he loved it.
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Post by: blake307 on August 06, 2010, 09:25:31 pm
This year I have seen Kick Ass. It was a pretty awesome and funny movie.

I have seen Prince of Persia. It was a pretty good movie.

I have also seen The Last Airbender. It's was alright but I thought that they left out some stuff in the movie.

I have watched a couple of Anime movies this year as well. Summer Wars and The Dissappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. They were both pretty great movies.
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Post by: mastersteve89 on August 06, 2010, 09:26:48 pm
Inception, Inception, Inception! Best movie of the year so far!

I saw dinner for schmucks. Not bad, humerous but the ending feels like it was put in at the last second....
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Post by: Sev on August 07, 2010, 04:20:23 am
I just recently went through a whole marathon of war movies. I saw Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, We were Soldiers, and the Last Samurai. Needless to say its got me really pumped up about the military.

Waiting to see The Other Guys in a few days that movie looks hilarious.
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Post by: H4ataraxia on August 07, 2010, 06:31:33 am
inception
nuff said

never have i felt so intense during a movie
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Post by: mastersteve89 on August 14, 2010, 08:45:48 am
Well, I just saw The Expendibles. It's a decent action movie, lots of explosions and a few funny jokes here and there, but it has a lot of faults.

First the story. It's completely forgetable to the point that there's a good chance is all that you'll remember is that there was a 20 minute gunfight in between 4-5 minutes of dialouge. Don't go in expecting an Inception grade story. That's all I can say. :P

As for the special effects, it ain't no Avatar, I can tell you that much. I'm not saying I could do better, but they are amatuer in most parts. It has an action movies standard explosions and blown up bodies. But for things like buildings falling and a certain scene where someone caught on fire (not gonna say who =P), it was really obvious that computer cg was used to create the effect.

Overall, it's a good action flick where you can shut off your brain and enjoy the explosions and gunshots.

If I had to rate it, I'd give it a 7/10
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Post by: Picup on August 14, 2010, 08:56:47 am
Saw Inception a while back, it was pretty awesome.  Ending makes everyone go whoaaa wut.  I also just saw Despicable Me last Tuesday.  That was such a cute movie, loved it a lot.

Going to see a movie again on Tuesday, anyone have any suggestions? (No I'm not going to go see Inception again)
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Post by: Mind M@ster on May 22, 2011, 07:43:54 pm
Revival of really old topic!

Saw Pirates of the Caribbean : On Stranger Tides yesterday.

I liked it a lot! Wouldn't say love because I wasn't blown away, but it was worth the time and money. And a good way to end the Pirates movie series. At least I hope they end it, since they didn't really set it up for another one.

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Post by: Clear Blue on May 23, 2011, 12:16:20 pm
I haven't watched any good movies lately...

Hmm....I want to watch "Tangled" again. I love a happy fairytale.
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Post by: azuyuki on May 27, 2011, 06:36:58 am
I watched Pirates, it was definitely fun but kinda derpy in story.
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Post by: SereneMidnight on May 28, 2011, 04:33:18 am
I watched part of The Italian Job during class today. Pretty good. Shame that I don't have Netflix to watch it yet.
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Post by: Accoun on May 09, 2012, 10:02:31 pm
Czech Dream (Český Sen)
A documentary. Two cinematography students make a whole agressive ad campaign and arrange an opening fest for a supermarket that... doesn't even exist, fooling many people. Says much about 21st century society.
Everyone should see this one.
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Post by: AweOfShe on May 10, 2012, 10:06:13 am
Been on a Jackie Chan binge lately. I will never get bored of his older movies. <3

Drunken Master 1 and 2, and Rumble in the Bronx, done.

Mr. Nice Guy is next.
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Post by: PinoyCruger on May 10, 2012, 02:56:44 pm
Recently I finished watching Osamu Tezuka's Buddha: The Great Departure.

A great movie telling the history of Buddha, but Hidetaka Yoshioka's role as the titular character is great.

Also I will give kudos to Ikue Ohtani, who played Tatta.
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Post by: Accoun on May 27, 2012, 10:50:18 pm
"I Need That Record! The Death (or Possible Survival) of the Independent Record Store"

I'm back in watching every possible music documentary i can get.
Quite saddening watch, because I have never been to an actual indie record store. If there was one in my city, it probably died out before I got into music. Good thing I still have some gaming ones, where I can try games out or just chat with the owners and other clients once in a while, but I'd love to have at least one for music...
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Post by: Scotty on May 27, 2012, 11:24:06 pm
Watched the Chernobyl Diaries this weekend.

Avoid like Chernobyl.
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Post by: Clear Blue on July 17, 2012, 02:04:50 pm
I am so watching that new Disney movie called "Wreck-It Ralph". (Disney, you win big time!)

I mean it's Disney's biggest step into making a movie about video games. (With actual video game characters from different game companies!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COC8W8uLdI8

Here's the one with Sonic giving out a message to all the characters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDXCf_gOkMM

And I thought this was something TheWolfBunny was up to. (If THIS was his idea, I'll be damned.

Coming this November.
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Post by: animagic4u on July 17, 2012, 07:43:10 pm
...Uh. Well I hate 3D Animation movies so that is not on my watch list.
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Post by: altuixde on July 21, 2012, 04:09:15 am
Coraline has the best lighting I've ever seen in a film.  The music is pretty good too.
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Post by: blake307 on July 23, 2012, 05:41:23 pm
The last two I have seen is Spiderman 3 a few weeks ago. It was pretty good if I say so myself.

And last Thursday I watched the K-on movie. Loved it and loved the music as well. XD
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Post by: altuixde on August 04, 2012, 05:45:32 am
Just finished watching Hugo (as in Hugo Cabret).  It was a little slow.  Overall though, it was good, especially the music.  Not sure if it would stand up to repeated viewings (feels like seeing it once is enough).
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Post by: baruhara on August 23, 2012, 10:34:53 pm
Watched Bourne Legacy today. Wasn't impressed. 6/10.
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Post by: PinoyCruger on August 24, 2012, 09:43:06 pm
Watched Bourne Legacy today. Wasn't impressed. 6/10.

Wow, I didn't know you watch that. Some awesome scenes that shot in the Philippines is giving me the awesomeness.
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Post by: baruhara on August 25, 2012, 01:15:38 am
Wow, I didn't know you watch that. Some awesome scenes that shot in the Philippines is giving me the awesomeness.

There were a lot of awesome explosions and stuff and it was a decent action film in its own right, but the ending was such an obvious sequel hook and it just didn't hold a candle to its precedents. It was only tangentially related.
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Post by: The Blizzard on September 05, 2012, 05:29:16 am
 I have watched The Dark Knight Rises a couple of weeks ago. It was amazing. I absolutely loved the music especially.

Also, recently I heard a Metal Gear Solid Live-Action Movie from Konami's Facebook page, so somehow I'm looking forward to it, while at the same time, sort of not.
http://www.konami-digital-entertainment.co.jp/en/news/release/2012/0830_2/?ref=kdej-e_top
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Post by: altuixde on December 26, 2012, 02:31:17 am
ParaNorman - I was looking forward to this, but it turns out it's not nearly as well written as Coraline (one of Laika's other works).
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Post by: PinoyCruger on December 26, 2012, 09:06:31 pm
I watched Rurouni Kenshin movie last Friday, and Takeru Satoh's awesome in his role. Sanosuke's freakin' hot.
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Post by: Accoun on March 11, 2013, 02:29:24 am
Searching For Sugar Man.

Unbelivable story. And damn, it's good.
A documentary about Rodriguez - an American Folk musician, who was HUGE in South Africa, basically inspired them to get up and fight against apartheid. Even if they knew NOTHING about him (aside from his name and the cover photo). For a good reason - leaving alone the fact that these times the country was cut away from the rest of the world, no one even heard of him in the US.
 The movie tells the story from the perspective of two people, who wanted to know ANYTHING about him - who was he, how he died etc.

Also, have some music from the movie (http://youtu.be/qyE9vFGKogs)
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Post by: Cien Laguoire on March 15, 2013, 12:21:22 am
I saw Die Hard in its entirety for the first time earlier this week. Now I can see why everyone loves it so much!
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Post by: Accoun on March 21, 2013, 12:36:16 am
Lemmy

Fuck yeah Lemmy!
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Post by: nyachan on March 29, 2013, 06:43:14 am
I saw Sugar Rush (Wreck-It Ralph) on tuesday! This wasn't the first time I've seen it (obviously), but it was the first time seeing it's Japanese dub. I really enjoyed it. The movie is really good no matter what uwu
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Post by: Cien Laguoire on April 26, 2013, 10:35:23 pm
I've seen Oblivion a couple of nights ago, and I really enjoyed it. There's a great twist partway through which I liked. I recommend seeing it if you like sci-fi movies.
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Post by: altuixde on July 15, 2013, 04:17:16 am
Star Trek Into Darkness was pretty darned good. Its ending was a little too short, though, and there were a few too many references to the previous movie.
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Post by: PinoyCruger on July 17, 2013, 05:37:03 pm
I have to watch Pacific Rim because kaiju fights are amazing!
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Post by: Cien Laguoire on July 18, 2013, 11:34:38 pm
Watch Pacific Rim.
Just do it.
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Post by: altuixde on August 13, 2013, 02:23:46 pm
Some movie bundles are pretty heavily discounted on the iTunes store right now (https://itunes.apple.com/us/collection/movie-bundles/id39?fcId=446230533&ign-mscache=1). Kind of makes me wish I had waited to buy some of these movies. :'(
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Post by: Megane~Girl on August 15, 2013, 11:44:18 pm
Has anyone else seen How to Train Your Dragon? It' my favorite movie!
I can't wait for the second and third ones to come out! But I feel like they won't be as good as the first one.
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Post by: altuixde on October 02, 2013, 03:15:33 am
Saw Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 today. It was pretty silly, but it's supposed to be. Almost as good as the first movie.
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Post by: digi162 on October 03, 2013, 06:47:06 am
What movie do you watch when your government shuts down?

They Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgl1HOxpj8) of course~
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Post by: altuixde on November 08, 2013, 11:02:41 pm
The Place Promised in Our Early Days (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Place_Promised_in_Our_Early_Days)

So slow. Still, not bad.
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Post by: Accoun on November 09, 2013, 01:04:42 am
Yeah, I remember liking it.
Actually, that reminds me I still haven't seen any other Shinkai's works...
(also, shouldn't that go to the anime thread, lol?)
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Post by: altuixde on November 09, 2013, 01:12:08 am
I didn't think of posting it in the anime thread. ^^; It's an anime movie, so I guess it might be OK here. I need to check out some of Shinkai's other works too.
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Post by: altuixde on December 10, 2013, 01:55:09 am
Has anyone else seen Frozen? I didn't like it quite as much as Tangled. Frozen went by so fast (even though it's 8 minutes longer than Tangled, according to IMDB) and I felt like the only character we got to know well enough was Anna. There were still some good points, though; like the scenes with Elsa and Anna as children, the beautiful character models, and how Anna was saved in the end.
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Post by: PinoyCruger on December 13, 2013, 11:50:01 pm
I have to watch Saint Young Men on New Year's Eve, but still I have to prepare some snacks for the party in a few days.
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Post by: altuixde on June 29, 2014, 04:26:06 am
I just saw Gravity (starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney) and it could've been a little better, but just a little. It's not a movie I'd want to own, but it's worth a rent.
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Post by: Accoun on November 12, 2014, 12:25:44 am
20000 Days On Earth

Kind of a "a day in life" movie about Nick Cave. Was really good overall, but the performances (both in the studio and during concerts) were just PHE-NO-ME-NAL.
Highly recommended.
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on April 17, 2015, 09:41:33 pm
New Star Wars Teaser. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs)

Oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god. *3*
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on May 03, 2015, 09:54:54 am
The Avengers: Age of Ultron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3h_PmaiKMM)

God I fucking love this movie; little things like that are what bring out so much. Definitely going to miss Joss Whedon come Infinity War. Moreover to boons, Natasha's raw history has me now on the Black Widow boat for sure. This film humanizes Barton so much more, too. Finally, Ultron needs no explanation as I feel he's possibly flawless as any antagonist could be undertaken. Outstanding voice.
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on June 19, 2015, 07:46:13 pm
I love the internet sometimes. Can't wait to see the movie, too~. (http://petapixel.com/2015/06/18/viral-zookeepers-are-recreating-chris-pratts-pose-in-jurassic-world/)
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Post by: Tafira on June 19, 2015, 08:55:39 pm
I personally laughed at the one with the chickens..... and reminds me I should rewatch the originals. ^^;

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Post by: altuixde on February 24, 2016, 12:22:47 am
Just saw The Force Awakens... and I was pretty disappointed. I don't think it's as strong as J. J. Abrams' Star Trek films (but those, too, had their problems). It's possible that I feel this way because I've only seen The Force Awakens once, and I'll like it more on subsequent viewings, but I wish it had made a better first impression.
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on March 10, 2016, 07:40:39 pm
Welp, DC confirmed for suicide watch; Marvels' Civil War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKrVegVI0Us) is undoubtedly the blockbuster to end all blockbusters. :3
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Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 11, 2016, 12:01:04 am
Welp, DC confirmed for suicide watch; Marvels' Civil War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKrVegVI0Us) is undoubtedly the blockbuster to end all blockbusters. :3

Heh. DC. "Suicide".
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Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 11, 2016, 11:18:06 am
I need to stop watching old films for a while and see recent blockbusters. The Martian is good, I guess?
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Post by: Nayre on March 12, 2016, 10:34:21 am
Just saw a pretty good movie called Stander.  Also watched Red Cliff parts 1 and 2 recently.(the film where "Kuon no Kawa" from Azusa MA3 album originated from)  I love these kinds of Chinese movies about ancient lore and learning more about their rich cultural history.(even if it isn't completely accurate)  Everything's just so elegant and over-exaggerated and it's so damn cool! XD

Welp, DC confirmed for suicide watch; Marvels' Civil War (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKrVegVI0Us) is undoubtedly the blockbuster to end all blockbusters. :3

New Spiderman looks awesome!(sounds so young! :o)  I still miss the old Tobey Spidey tho.  I feel like his dorkiness would've been a nice addition to this already amazing cast. XD
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on March 15, 2016, 07:12:14 pm
Behold what looks to be an absolutely amazing watch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7fP9q_LyDc) for the first R-rated animated film.
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on May 07, 2016, 09:40:11 am
Just saw Civil War. Really shat over BvS. This is how you fucking write a film, people.

My favourite scene by far -- and perhaps of any MCU film -- was Stark's revelation it was Bucky who murdered his parents; that initial apprehension, coming down to outright agony made for a harrowing sight.

Right then and there you knew everything shattered, and there couldn't possibly be a more viable way to establish the climax. Genuinely hard to see, yet it made me appreciative of Downey so much more.

On a lighter note, the Vision and Scarlet Witch interactions were adorable, yet palatable. Nice to see that kind of growth overall. To also risk sounding like a creeper, the latter has some rather nice legs.

... Moreover to sex appeal, holy hell at Aunt May. Holy hell.
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on May 02, 2018, 12:09:30 pm
Saw Infinity War, and since it's been forever, man do I need a place to gush:

For what doubts I had with Thanos' handling, the first five minutes pretty much dashed them; between getting Hulk's ass thoroughly handed to him -- even an extent of frightening him to reemerge from Banner -- and ending Loki's life, you knew right then the score this villain sat down. The tone couldn't be established better.

Could one really say villain, though? Thanos seemed morally gray than anything else, which lends to another beauty in how even he wasn't immune to sacrifice. Huge props to the Russo brothers for Gamora's death, as it was indisputably my favourite scene; they brought out Thanos as much more a sympathetic character.


Very worthwhile pay-off to a decade-long franchise. Likely seeing this again.
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Post by: Naryoril on May 02, 2018, 03:58:47 pm
As for the scene you like so much:

I have the opposite impression. It came pretty much out of left field, there wasn't nearly enough build up to that point. And the little build up that there was didn't feel believable to me, i always thought Thanos was just acting nice to Gamora right from the beginning to keep her as a plaything. I actually thought he will not get the stone, because his feeling are not sincere. It didn't feel to me like he really made a sacrifice, despite the "random" tears.

As for the morally gray in his beliefs: I don't really buy that either. It might be the case for worlds that are struggling with their resources, but i bet there are tons of world where it isn't an issue at all. And for some worlds half the population is probably still too much, while on others only a little bit less would have done the trick as well. Add that to the fact that he never even tried to find another solution, what he is doing is just indiscriminate slaughter, maybe not pitch black, but far away from gray.
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on May 02, 2018, 05:32:41 pm
I've felt the build-up was appropriate; Thanos sought the soul stone for some time, what with torturing Nebula to unravel Gamora's long-kept secret location. Once getting there, we're given a lot of exposition by none other than Red Skull, who also states that the soul gem mandates a cost of someone dear -- this case being Thanos' adoptive daughter. At the beginning, Gamora had once been loyal to him and efficient -- moreso than other daughters Thanos took under -- so his following regret of ending her life does feel justified, even with the lack of reciprocation.

In regards to indiscriminate slaughter, that's the thing: it's indiscriminate. What felt notable is how Thanos often struck down those who defied his plan, not necessarily out of malice. One could also attribute his lack of solutions to Thanos' homeworld, trying to stave off ruin... only to fail; this would sully his perception. Another point is when Thanos gave Tony a gesture of respect, since the latter held so well against him on Titan -- he even outright says he'll ensure Earth's survival, once his task is done. It's sort of a twisted form of chivalry, which comes unheard of.


As an aside, many thanks for fixing spoiler tags Yunabecco. :3
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Post by: Naryoril on May 03, 2018, 09:52:23 am
What i meant as missing build up is that to me it didn't feel like Thanos felt much for Gamora, it felt like he always just viewed her as a tool, and sacrificing a tool isn't what should get you the soul stone. Maybe i'm wrong there, maybe sacrificing an effective tool is enough, but then Gamora's speech that Thanos will never get the soul stone wouldn't fit.

As for the slaughter: First of all, it's still a slaughter. And with the "indiscriminate" part i meant that by killing half of the population of every planet he is also killing countless people where there is absolutely no "need" to do so, even in his twisted logic.

As for "ensuring Earth's survival": He isn't doing that for Tony or anything, it's what he thinks he does by killing ever second living being, so he'd do it whether Tony had opposed him or not.

I get what the scriptwriters wanted to do, they wanted to put him into a morally gray area, but to me it doesn't work out, they did a bad job at their attempt. The writers of the Witcher games (Witcher 1 in particular) did a much better job at this. One scene that stuck to me: In general non human races are oppressed and are subject to heavy racism, as a result there are rebel/terrorist groups of elves and dwarfes. One of these groups raids a bank and takes hostages. You are sent in by the human army to negotiate with them, to ensure them they will not be harmed if they release the hostages and pull back. You can kill them or negotiate with them. If you do negotiate, after they released the hostages, the human army charges in and wants to kill them, ignoring their promise. What do you do now? Do you help the terrorists and bank robbers to escape as they were promised or do you kill them? They are terrorist that have killed innocent people before after all. Imo THAT's a well done morally gray situation where you feel for both sides.