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Goddamn album arts!
« on: November 05, 2010, 03:08:35 am »
I want to rant a bit >:(

I got a Bold 9700, and I'm quite happy with it. The sound quality is nice and it can host a lot of songs

The problem is the album art part.

As you can see, THE iDOLM@STER is like no other: instead of album art we got song art. This contributes greatly to song recognition, but introduces problems as well.

See, normally each song from each album got the same album art, because they don't normally have an individual song art. Because of this RIM took a simple approach: find an art from an album, and apply it as the art for the whole song in the album.

You can pretty much imagine Master Box VI where each song got I Want icon as the song art. Very annoying, especially because I've created asong arts for each of the song, but I can't do anything about this (because it is iM@S that defies normal). A work around would be to slightly alter the album name or completely disregard the album altogether and apply the song's name as the album.

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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 03:53:19 am »
This sounds more like it has to do with the hardware and not the music, or iM@S. My iPod handles album art perfectly. Never heard of song art since you should only be looking at the art from the album, as in the art you see when you look at the case to which the CD is in. I would put the master box art itself and have it display for all the songs that you got from there.

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I didn't say that
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 12:18:40 pm »
Either you misunderstood my post or it's something else Scotty, but I didn't say anything about the music (or iM@S) being the culprit

Maybe this can jog your mind?



Let me help you understand my post: :D What I said was RIM took a simple approach, rather than looking for album art in each song, it simply index every song based on Album Name, find the first song that has an album art in it and use it as the album art for everything else in the same album

To make it simple, this happened:
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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 04:52:31 pm »
Can't you just manually take the music and add the art that you want per song? I know at least iTunes will let you add song art individually and won't force it to the entire album (unless you tell it to).

Either that or, like Scotty said, take the Masterbox art and put it on the album.

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 07:26:43 pm »
Can't you just manually take the music and add the art that you want per song? I know at least iTunes will let you add song art individually and won't force it to the entire album (unless you tell it to).

Either that or, like Scotty said, take the Masterbox art and put it on the album.

Each song got their own share of attention:





That how I organized my songs, each custom edited to fit into Nokia's S40 3rd Edition music player (100x100 cover art and ridiculous character length, haven't got the time to make them Blackberry friendly). Well, some didn't get proper data due to one problem or another.

Like I said, the problem is not in the music, but in RIM's implementation of album art. Their implementation is very sound and logical, but leaves less room for individual recognition
« Last Edit: November 05, 2010, 07:29:28 pm by Raestloz »
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Re: I didn't say that
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 10:36:08 pm »

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Re: I didn't say that
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 05:02:34 am »
O/T

You seem to be using some lower quality images for some of them song art :|

HOLY COW! WHERE DID YOU GET THEM?

Mata ne... Overmaster... I never thought I'd see them

MOAR! NAO!

Well, they are low quality because:
1. They're 100x100
2. I can't get the high-quality version

Do you have Aoi Tori? Do you? Do you?

Also, where did you get them? I'd like to complete the whole set...

lastly, anyone knows where can I get the art for HELLO!, Dazzling World, ALIVE and Precog? These 3 eluded me. I seem to have found them but I don't know where.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 06:35:58 am by Raestloz »
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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 07:01:09 am »
You should seriously consider using Album art....

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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 07:18:39 am »
You should seriously consider using Album art....

But I did Scotty...


P.S: I can't believe this. I seem to have managed to get my hands on some icons but I don't know where or how. Sigh, I was narrow minded
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 07:20:38 am by Raestloz »
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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 07:42:06 am »
No, what you seem to be looking for is individual art for certain songs. Just go with the art that's on the album in which the song came in.

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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 08:01:08 am »
Yeah, depends on whether your device chooses to:
1. Look for a folder.jpg/cover.jpg in the directory and keep it for all songs in said directory (easiest, but least accurate)
2. Look for the album art in the ID3/APE tag of the first loaded file and keep it
3. Load the album art from each file (most accurate, but also a bit performance-hungry)

The iPod and my Cowon all do 3. and revert to 1. if the file tag doesn't contain art (or show nothing if there is no folder/cover.jpg). In contrast, my HTC spectacularly fails on loading individual album art. :(

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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 11:25:52 am »
No, what you seem to be looking for is individual art for certain songs. Just go with the art that's on the album in which the song came in.

But I truly already did Scotty :(



I use album art for songs with no individual art, except Shinku, for which I made this:


@Yunabeco:
My Blackberry chose no 2, and it is really troublesome. My 3600 Slide does no.3 and now I have better respect to Nokia regarding their art handling mechanism
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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 03:22:43 pm »

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Re: Goddamn album arts!
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 08:02:10 am »
*pic*

But you didn't say for every song Scotty :(

Also, I downgraded from OS6 to OS5. Somehow, the problem is fixed: the actual playing session displays art from the tag, while for preview it uses the art from the last song in the album's list.

I guess RIM went with a different logic for OS6. Ah, well... maybe I won't upgrade and stay with OS5, I'm comfortable with it after all. Also, this issue.
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