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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1800 on: January 23, 2011, 07:49:20 pm »
The full version of The World is all one is out.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1801 on: January 23, 2011, 07:52:37 pm »
thanks!  :D
I've been waiting for this!

That bridge part sounds super cute!  :D
The ending sounded weird though. A little to sudden for me.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1802 on: January 24, 2011, 12:34:26 am »
Gamefaqs is wrong? http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/943849-the-idolmster-live-for-you/data

L4U's Japanese version is available on the HK store. I don't know if you can buy Games on Demand games outside of this area, but I know that you can't with Games on Demand titles from the Japanese store, unless you're inside Japan.

I'm still pretty sure there's no retail version of L4U outside of Japan, your friends must have purchased the Japanese version.

Yeah, go ahead, trust GameFAQs over someone who actually lives in Asia on this. Why not?

Look, buddy, I don't know how much clearer I can make this to you, the Asian branch of Bandai Namco Games Inc/Holdings (they do have an office here in Singapore, and last I checked, Singapore is located in South-East Asia... which I think counts as an Asian territory) distributed an Asian version of L4U to a bunch of major electronics/games retailers (the equivalent of Best Buy) here in Singapore (again, Asia), and this Asian copy was sold at a fraction of the price of the Japanese version. I seriously do not know how much clearer I can make this to you.

I imported the Japanese version from Play-Asia, only to find out later that I could pick up the game from major retailers everwhere at a lower price.

That said, there is virtually no difference between the Asian and Japanese copies of L4U. Not even in the box-art or anything (I think). It's essentially the Japanese version sold in Asian territories at our typical MSRP, which is significantly lower than JP retail prices, and slightly lower than NA ones.

Before you go "see, so then it's the Japanese version", know that the "Asian" versions of about 90% of the videogames sold in Asian territories are the exact same US/JP versions, with the exact same boxes and everything, but imported and sold here at a lower price. Only about 10% of the videogames sold in Asia have slightly different packaging/contents than the US/JP versions.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1803 on: January 24, 2011, 12:59:48 am »
I only pay $100 on a game if it comes with some extra 'oomph'.

If there's going to be an Asian release of iM@S 2, then I'll so get that....eventually....sometime.

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« Reply #1804 on: January 24, 2011, 01:39:04 am »
Before you go "see, so then it's the Japanese version", know that the "Asian" versions of about 90% of the videogames sold in Asian territories are the exact same US/JP versions, with the exact same boxes and everything, but imported and sold here at a lower price. Only about 10% of the videogames sold in Asia have slightly different packaging/contents than the US/JP versions.

The Asian version cannot have a CERO label as there is no CERO divisions outside of Japan.

I have had both Asian English and Japanese versions of Tales of Vesperia, and there's no rating on the Asia version. There is on the Japanese version. They both have the same box art, except the  Asia game's in English, with a bilingual manual.

I also have the Asia version of Lost Planet 2, which has an English manual, despite having Japanese box art. Has "Made in Singapore" on it.

Vesperia, a game also by Namco Bandai and released 6 months prior to L4U, would probably have been localized in the same manner. No CERO rating.

I can't actually find anything to support your claim here. There's no available Asia version of L4U on Play-Asia, yet there is for iM@S2. That's one sign at least, since Play-Asia typically overprice their Asian version games and make a killing. Why didn't they do that for L4U, when it was released into Asia but outside of Japan?

Anyway, my point is, if iM@S2 is having a proper release (and not just excess stock being dumped outside of Japan), I still have to wonder whether it will end up getting an English manual of some kind.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1805 on: January 24, 2011, 02:04:33 am »
how much do japanese xbox360s cost on average? new or used?

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1806 on: January 24, 2011, 07:23:00 am »
The Asian version cannot have a CERO label as there is no CERO divisions outside of Japan.

I have had both Asian English and Japanese versions of Tales of Vesperia, and there's no rating on the Asia version. There is on the Japanese version. They both have the same box art, except the  Asia game's in English, with a bilingual manual.

I also have the Asia version of Lost Planet 2, which has an English manual, despite having Japanese box art. Has "Made in Singapore" on it.

Vesperia, a game also by Namco Bandai and released 6 months prior to L4U, would probably have been localized in the same manner. No CERO rating.

I can't actually find anything to support your claim here. There's no available Asia version of L4U on Play-Asia, yet there is for iM@S2. That's one sign at least, since Play-Asia typically overprice their Asian version games and make a killing. Why didn't they do that for L4U, when it was released into Asia but outside of Japan?

Anyway, my point is, if iM@S2 is having a proper release (and not just excess stock being dumped outside of Japan), I still have to wonder whether it will end up getting an English manual of some kind.


Because it's already out of print. Play-Asia used to carry L4U at the same price as iMAS2 right now.

The level of localisation for Asian markets varies from game to game, even within the same company.

For your reference, my Asian copy of Super Street Fighter IV clearly has Capcom Taiwan printed on the back of the limited edition box, but the CERO C rating on the front.

With regards to Tales of Vesperia, it could be that perhaps your Asian version is a re-branded NA version.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1807 on: January 24, 2011, 11:02:22 am »
how much do japanese xbox360s cost on average? new or used?

There you go

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-bq-49-en.html

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1808 on: January 24, 2011, 11:23:32 am »
There you go

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-bq-49-en.html
Same game but with a different price. (Free shipment only in Hong Kong)


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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1809 on: January 24, 2011, 04:57:25 pm »
how much do japanese xbox360s cost on average? new or used?

If you have the capabilities to get one used from Japan...

http://www.sofmap.com/search_result/exec/?mode=SEARCH&styp=p_bar&product_type=USED&gid=&keyword=xbox+360&GO_L.x=0&GO_L.y=0

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1810 on: January 24, 2011, 10:50:56 pm »
The Asian version cannot have a CERO label as there is no CERO divisions outside of Japan.
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I can't actually find anything to support your claim here. There's no available Asia version of L4U on Play-Asia, yet there is for iM@S2. That's one sign at least, since Play-Asia typically overprice their Asian version games and make a killing. Why didn't they do that for L4U, when it was released into Asia but outside of Japan?

Then I'll support that claim. As I have seen it. I find your posts to quite antagonising and arrogant, and there's really no need for it, just because you can't find it.

L4U DID have an Asian release, and it wasn't just in Singapore but also in Hong Kong. Play Asia did sell it, it was removed from their site sometime in 2010, and I still have the email discussion with their sales team about it. Yes Asia also had it listed, but I can't be bothered to check now if its still there or not. I heard that the Asia edition of L4U included a single card with one side in Chinese and the other in English in addition to the Japanese manual/booklet. I think the card basically had a translated menu on it or something to help you pick menu choices or something like that.

As for Tales of vesparia, that's a totally different thing there. Tales had a full english translation for the xbox for US and it had an Asian version. It was however never done for the PS3 ver. That has also mysteriously disappeared and is out of stock, maybe Namco axed the regional releases.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1811 on: January 25, 2011, 01:26:43 am »
Then I'll support that claim. As I have seen it. I find your posts to quite antagonising and arrogant, and there's really no need for it, just because you can't find it.

What the eff are you talking about? All I said was that the Asian version of iM@S2, listed at Play-Asia, might have a bilingual manual or instruction card to help (this forum) understand the gist of the game. I still have yet to see any proof that an Asian version did exist, and if it did exist and did have English information, why are you only bringing it up now?

I don't honestly care because judging from the screenshots and gameplay footage so far, I won't have any issue playing this. But hey, so much for helping the forum, I guess.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1812 on: January 25, 2011, 01:51:15 am »
What the f*** are you talking about? All I said was that the Asian version of iM@S2, listed at Play-Asia, might have a bilingual manual or instruction card to help (this forum) understand the gist of the game. I still have yet to see any proof that an Asian version did exist, and if it did exist and did have English information, why are you only bringing it up now?

I don't honestly care because judging from the screenshots and gameplay footage so far, I won't have any issue playing this. But hey, so much for helping the forum, I guess.

You keep saying you see no proof of an Asian version of the game, yet several people's posts have already clearly told you it exists, not to mention the info contained within this very forum and on the wiki. Your swearing is also completely unnecessary. The proof of the instruction card is going to be difficult, its years old, no one is currently selling it, and it dosn't look like anyone here has a copy. I own the Japanese version which is why I can't be certain on it, however I don't think its really *that* useful anyway.

The actual game is 100% identical, I even use Asian DLC content on my Japanese edition of the games. My information source - which I no longer have the link to - says that the manual is the same Japanese one, the only difference was an apparent small card with a translation of the menu, most likly - yes a guess - that its the stage/items menu as thats totally in Japanese in the game.

The problem with IM@S L4U is the rhythm game you have to get a high score on before the characters will do anything, not the language at all, its just the timing and speed is rather hard. The Japanese is not really an issue in L4U, however in the original IM@S it is an issue, but I still play that more, even without understanding it. I use a combination of the 'perfect communications' and the IM@S SP translation project's translated menu images and the how to play guide which was made by a person on here.

To go back on topic, I have seen the Asia version of IM@S 2 on PlayAsia for awhile but so far not seen it anywhere else, I havn't looked for awhile however. I doubt tho that it will be any different from the Japanese release, as far as I know the SP Asia version was the same as well (no English content). Its going to be tricky to understand the communications but I think it will still be playable just like IM@S 1 and SP, even if its a lot of guess work, but thats part of the fun.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1813 on: January 25, 2011, 02:51:55 am »
Instead of going "I don't like your posts wahh" and other such drivel better suited for Twitter, you could have easily mentioned the Asian version included an English card. Not difficult. Because that was, you know, the whole speculation around the Asia version sequel in the first place.

Anyway, still curious to see how the Asia version of iM@S2 turns out.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1814 on: January 25, 2011, 05:55:46 am »
Oh yeah?

How about instead of making broad and assumptuous statements like "there is no Asian version, your friend must have bought the Japanese version," or "you're telling me GameFAQs is wrong?" you just accept it when Asians tell you there was an Asian version?

Knowing whether there was or wasn't an Asian version of L4U now doesn't help anyone anymore, so I don't know why you've been so persistent about it.
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