iDOLM@STER 2!!

[Haldo]

what's wrong with variety? Besides, the vast majority of the im@s dances will still be by girls.

[Scotty]

Tenchy is raging all over the place.

[SalemJeanette]

what's wrong with variety? Besides, the vast majority of the im@s dances will still be by girls.

Nothing's wrong with variety, just a haters gonna hate thing.
Tenchi is to Jupiter as Scotty is to Dearly Stars?

[Scotty]

There is nothing wrong with not liking something that's fan-made.

[swiftnissity]

I love Ami and Mami's sections of the new Danketsu (thanks Magenta Galaxy / swiftnissity!). Those two are nuts. If Brazil is a final location in the game, that's neat...but I would've just taken it as Futami randomness XDD

Although..."you're making Ami the leader? Looks like you know what you're doing!"

Why is that in the song if we can't produce her?

Give Magenta all the credit
I did nothing lol XD

[Cael K.]

Yeah, it's okay, they only get one song and dance.

Ryo? A total of four new songs and four new dances, one of them entirely his own. Not shared with... whatever. Same goes for the Ai and Eri. 876 obviously got more love. ^^;

[Scotty]

961: Brought back 2 idols. Gave you Overmaster, one of the better iM@S songs out there, a good rival storyline, strong PSP sales, stronger iM@S 2 sales, male idols. Just getting started.

876 fan production: A confused boy. pixels. More useless characters than a sonic series. No sales. Unless you count the half-off perma-sale a bit later after release.

[digi162]

Change can be good, but it makes it so much harder to explain what this game is about now D:

And it was hard enough beforehand to explain I guess xD

[airgeneralpong]

[RhaXiel]

Change can be good, but it makes it so much harder to explain what this game is about now D:

And it was hard enough beforehand to explain I guess xD

hmmmmm i think its about producing idols O.o in a "real-life simulated scheme"

Ohh~ the Drama of the fans~~!

[Tenchy]

I feel your pain Producer...........

[TweenDoriru]

I think what 876 really had going for it were how interesting the characters' stories were. Ai being the seed of a teenage-pregnancy idol; Eri being an (ex) hikkikomori, and Ryo being Ryo. Gyaoooooon.

It's a bit unfortunate that we won't get to see them in HD graphics. Or ever perform on the stage in a trio...

Also...out of curiosity (I have no idea how 360 discs work XD), why would adding the male idols be at the cost of the 4 idols that can't be produced? It's not like they have more than one song (or, for that matter, more than one stage), and they probably don't have an insane amount of interactions (if anything, it'd probably be like how you interacted with the 961 idols in SP; when you decided to get sidetracked on your way to/from the office).

I mean, comparatively, Ryuuguu Komachi and Ricchan (would) have more costumes, songs, communications, and stuff to do in general. It doesn't seem like it's Jupiter's fault for those 4 being unplayable...

[RoninatorMarx]

I consider this proof that Kuroi is an epic-grade villain. :V Everyone hates his idols already and they haven't even really done anything villainous. Evidently people are misplaced in their hatred of Bandai-Namco and should be hating Kuroi. In a "you're meant to hate him because he's the villain but you respect him for being awesome" sense.

I guess you have a point there. The only redeeming villainous trait he has right now is that he has male idols, and got the fans to jump the paranoia gun. But maybe I'm still affected by SP where Kuroi, in the end, was just a foil rather than a true antagonist in a story. So yeah, I'm hoping for a good villain in the story now.

*inb4ragewithoutdoingresearch*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foil_(literature)

Also...out of curiosity (I have no idea how 360 discs work XD), why would adding the male idols be at the cost of the 4 idols that can't be produced? It's not like they have more than one song (or, for that matter, more than one stage), and they probably don't have an insane amount of interactions (if anything, it'd probably be like how you interacted with the 961 idols in SP; when you decided to get sidetracked on your way to/from the office).

I mean, comparatively, Ryuuguu Komachi and Ricchan (would) have more costumes, songs, communications, and stuff to do in general. It doesn't seem like it's Jupiter's fault for those 4 being unplayable...

I'm not sure myself, but if anything, Jupiter's getting their share of the hate because they're guys and, henceforth, Namco will make romance subplots, a thing certain fans hate, and a newly discovered goldmine for shippers (like myself).

About the 4 not being playable, I still haven't gone far into thinking why they would do that. I'll get back on this once I have a theory.

[Cael K.]

Also...out of curiosity (I have no idea how 360 discs work XD), why would adding the male idols be at the cost of the 4 idols that can't be produced? It's not like they have more than one song (or, for that matter, more than one stage), and they probably don't have an insane amount of interactions (if anything, it'd probably be like how you interacted with the 961 idols in SP; when you decided to get sidetracked on your way to/from the office).

As far as a 360 disc goes, it wouldn't really, unless you're really pressed for space.

However, when you think of it from a company perspective, you've only got so much resources to use. The time, effort, and money you sink into these new guys will inevitably take resources away from anything else, like putting Ryuuguu idols in.

961 idols... were I think a little necessary if they were to bring the conflict straight to your face. I mean, Kuroi's a shadow character. Even if he is plain evil, he's kind of... a floating state of evilness in the world. He can't really do anything directly against your idols, since he's not one himself, so he has to get his own. When I started realizing this... I also realized that making these idols would require some time and effort on their part, and the only reason I doubted this was that I wasn't exactly sure if they'd actually sink those resources.

Though, I personally think the cost of adding in the 961 guys would be much, much less than the cost of making communications and event dialog that adding in the Ryuuguu idols would need. My stance on Ryuuguu, though, is unchanged, though: they simply didn't have the resources for all 13. They probably didn't just cut those four, either: it was an informed decision they made based on several factors, then they justified it all plot-like later. No one would make a decision that would endanger 25% of their core (emphasis on that word) fanbase if they could help it, and if forced to it, they wouldn't make it lightly.

... Although I can't imagine how it's like over at NBGI now. And I can't imagine what it was like before.

[Kyo]

... Although I can't imagine how it's like over at NBGI now. And I can't imagine what it was like before.

"Oh well, they're still going to buy it anyway, because it's Idolmaster!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
*waits for cash to come in*

I'm one of the idiots who will still buy this game.