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Cael K.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #75 on: June 25, 2010, 07:23:37 am »
Alright... finally my turn to speculate. Now that I can finally register... feel the wrath that is my pent-up raging speculation!!!

System

I'm almost positive this is going to go 360. As far as I know, though, Idolm@ster doesn't have any competition (Dream Club, I don't think, made a dent in any of their sales), and I think there's really nothing that's chaining them to the one system which any new fans probably don't own. Before I'm sure it was just development time that made them not develop for the PS3 (it was launch for these systems), but this time I think it's probable, slightly more probable if we're talking a year past the 360 release.

I find it interesting that an Arcade release hasn't been announced. I would personally do that at latest 6 months in advance, but if we're looking at an early 2011 release of the 360 version (and the fact that this is Namco), I would say that there will be no arcade release. With the recent trend to incorporate more character development and such (I'd even go so far as to say that DS was their experiment to see how much plot and casual they could bring in), I'm even more confident, since those don't go together well in an arcade.

Setting

I think 876 is probably in, in some form or another. As random idols you fight (name only appearances), I think it's as good as settled. As NPCs, I think it's likely. As actual producable idols... only a merger (765 and 876, not Namco and... uhm... you pronounce those the same, right?) can make this happen, I think. The question is, were any new people brought in by DS, and if so, is Namco willing to keep them? The answer to the latter is definitely yes, but I don't know about the answer to the former.

Given the pictures in the countdown, though... I think all our familiar 765 idols are in. Fans of any game will want to see more of their familiar faces doing what they do best in a sequel and you're pretty much forced to cater to an already existing, rabid fanbase. Of course, you'll have to add in new faces to keep things fresh. 10 idols already... given how I think the idol select screen should look like with more characters, I think two or three new idols would be good (random select can always take up a slot). One or two if 876 idols are producable.

If we were to break Idolm@ster free of its one-on-one arcade-style roots, though... it'd take a lot of effort, but more interaction between idols would really change the direction the series is taking to bring it more inline with the plot-based trends we've been seeing lately.

961 I would say is back. Kuroi's an already established antagonist that everyone loves to hate, and he hasn't really been developed aside from the fact that he knows Takagi, knows Kotori (or so I've been told), and that he's a massive jerk. There's so much more that can be done here, and I think this was on purpose. Kotori herself... is possible, but I think part of her appeal is that she tragically never gets to be an idol, despite... everything else. ;_;

So, my final prediction in this is: previous 765 idols are in, former 961 idols are in 765. Expect to see a lot more interaction between (very possibly) themselves and (definitely) the producer. 876 idols play a supporting role. Two new idols. No Kotori. (I have to admit this. ;_;)

Gameplay

I'd say the same as SP, with the possible exception that Idol Ultimate prelims would give more fans, and the game might force you to Idol Ultimate prelims if it would rank you up (so it won't burn a week). I could say more, but... Idolm@ster is inherently balanced, and anything just different from the norm would be put in Special auditions, I think. So expect to see new ones.

Performance lesson might be reimagined, since I think Namco would've gotten a lot of complaints on that one.


That's all my speculation before an actual (possible) announcement next weekend. My frothing demand for this game cannot be contained!
« Last Edit: June 25, 2010, 07:31:07 am by caelk »
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #76 on: June 25, 2010, 08:11:39 am »
Kotori herself... is possible, but I think part of her appeal is that she tragically never gets to be an idol, despite... everything else. ;_;
Considering Kotori is often sold as a "former idol" that didn't quite make it in certain novelm@s series, I'm surprised namco hasn't attempted to cash in on that (idolm@ster: Episode 0, anyone?). Piyo-chan has a fanbase of her own for a reason, after all.

That being said, I do see the current idols (765 and 961) all under one umbrella. It's easier to pull off from a development standpoint. While it would be really nice to have several agencies for our fledgeling producer to work for, it might be a little too much given the amount of work it would take to pull that off. You'd also have a weird unbalanced feel (nine girls in 765, three girls in 961, three girls in 876), meaning you'd have to shuffle some girls around for even distribution (aside from any new girls that might be introduced), which the fans might not take to at all (the same way they wouldn't take to any of the current idols being removed entirely).

The only other thing I can think of is the possibility of the game being an entirely different story of its own, with the characters being reinvented (again) to fit in the new story.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #77 on: June 25, 2010, 02:17:50 pm »
(765 and 876, not Namco and... uhm... you pronounce those the same, right?)
876=Banamu or Bandai Namco

That aside, I still don't know the difference between NBGI and BNGI.
Some games are marked with the first and others are marked with the latter.


me thinks Kotori has amnesia but who cares.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #78 on: June 25, 2010, 02:52:18 pm »
The only other thing I can think of is the possibility of the game being an entirely different story of its own, with the characters being reinvented (again) to fit in the new story.
This is where I place my money. I mean, the 360 and PSP games pulled this (for the latter, 961's appearance and Miki jumping to there). And L4U and DS seemed like it was a side story/what if plot.


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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2010, 06:41:09 pm »
Going back to the first page of this topic, I think there's supposed to be an announcement for the game at the live.
Ahaha~ Excelent. Hopefully, there is. And it will be sweet.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2010, 12:42:20 am »
876=Banamu or Bandai Namco

That aside, I still don't know the difference between NBGI and BNGI.
Some games are marked with the first and others are marked with the latter.

Yeah, I jest, I jest.

But according to http://d.hatena.ne.jp/matakimika/20080327, at one point the wiki article said:

Quote from: Japanese Wikipedia
海外ではナムコの知名度が高いため、英語社名ではナムコを先に置いている。
In other countries, Namco's name is very well known, so the English name of the company has Namco coming first.

So... name recognition in international editions? Can anyone think of a time when a Japanese game was released under the name NBGI?

I guess we could even compare:
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/
http://www.namcobandaigames.com/

Japan is not an option for choosing your country in the second link.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2010, 12:45:06 am by Cael K. »
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How to get stuff from Japan without causing things to explode in a shower of sparks and misery: http://forum.project-imas.com/index.php/topic,1108.0.html

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Translations: http://www.mediafire.com/?hzc4b0jy7pwll

Currently translating (text only):
S(mile)ING! (English version, singable) - http://d.hatena.ne.jp/caelk/20140911/1410422445
Neue Green, Volume 3 - Will start sometime. ^_^;;
Rockin' Girl, Volume 1 (Chapters 1-5) - http://www.mediafire.com/?z00ffkvg5ocg11e

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2010, 04:50:11 am »
Going back to the first page of this topic, I think there's supposed to be an announcement for the game at the live.

Yeah, there is supposed to be an announcement at the live. The staff column at http://www.idolmaster.jp/blog/2010/04/5th-anniversarythe-world-is-al.html) says in it:

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今回のこのライブイベントにて、「PROJECT IM@S 2nd VISION」の次の動き――つまり、みんなが待っているアイマスの次回作についての発表を予定しております。

Which translates to "At this live event,  we plan to announce our next plans for 'PROJECT IM@S 2nd Vision', i.e. the next IM@S work you're all waiting for."
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2010, 07:52:43 am »
今回のこのライブイベントにて、「PROJECT IM@S 2nd VISION」の次の動き――つまり、みんなが待っているアイマスの次回作についての発表を予定しております。

This also translates to, "We're announcing what 99% of the fans are thinking is up next. We're not saying that 99% of the fans think the game is next."

This one's decided, I think.
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How to get stuff from Japan without causing things to explode in a shower of sparks and misery: http://forum.project-imas.com/index.php/topic,1108.0.html

Memories of Melon Pan: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/caelk/
Translations: http://www.mediafire.com/?hzc4b0jy7pwll

Currently translating (text only):
S(mile)ING! (English version, singable) - http://d.hatena.ne.jp/caelk/20140911/1410422445
Neue Green, Volume 3 - Will start sometime. ^_^;;
Rockin' Girl, Volume 1 (Chapters 1-5) - http://www.mediafire.com/?z00ffkvg5ocg11e

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2010, 01:24:35 pm »
EVERYONE READY FOR THAT ANNOUNCEMENT IN LESS THAN AN HOUR?!

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2010, 02:17:41 pm »
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/idolmaster/

Hit the site up for a brand spanking new iM@S logo and a confirmation of iDOLM@STER 2 for spring 2011.

Idol silhouettes, counting 13 of them. Could be new idols or from what I'm seeing, new hairstyles or older versions of some idols.

Must squint harder.
EDIT:
Silly me, didn't even see the PV. I'm so good at this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKr8rSGt4sk
ANALYSIS

  • Lighting effects going through the roof.
  • New casual clothes
  • New hairstyles
  • 961 spies successfully integrated into 765
  • Ritsuko is now Sarah Palin
  • Makoto is now Gakt
  • Azusa is now milf looking
  • Iori is now delicious
  • Twins are now seperate
  • Miki is still mine, nobody can have her beauty but me
  • New song rankings, could mean fan-made songs.....somehow.
  • oppai engine is as great as ever
  • THEY TOUCH
  • upskirt @ 2:09

.....Xbox360.
For now hopefully. Beta version on 360 first and all that jazz NBGI likes to pull.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2010, 02:51:48 pm by Scotty »

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2010, 03:17:12 pm »
I was surprised when they changed their appearances. I thought that, by the end of the video, I'd dislike some of them, but I actually like them all (Though I didn't recognize Makoto at first. Woops). And Ami and Mami as separate idols, finally!! *confettis*

I don't like the lonely "Xbox360" stamp in the corner of everything, but other than that, this game looks all good.

Also, that song-ranking tidbit needs to be a list of in-game songs. |3

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2010, 03:25:07 pm »
Looking really good.

Communication events that play out like Idol Dramas: HNNNNG

Older Ami and Mami: Double HNNNNNNNNG

Azuza with short hair: Triple HNNNNNNNNNNNNG

Oppai Physics are back: Holy Mother of all that is worthy, thank you so much for granting this pervert his wish.

NB, if you can let Producers do a pai-touch with Kinect, I will worship you forever.

Will be waiting with great interest for the release next year. I hope my Box can stay alive till then.

....Oh, screw it, I'll probably get a Slim just for this game next year.


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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2010, 03:32:05 pm »
Wow! They really did change the appearances and hair styles of a lot of characters. Ami looks better than before. Ritsuko looks a lot more attractive than before. Azusa's hair is shorter. Iori's new hair style looks pretty nice. Even Makoto looks more attractive. 

Yukiho-chan is still the same girl I know and love!

You know what, I think I might as well get a 360 since it looks like it's only for the Xbox 360.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2010, 03:35:13 pm »
Most definitely an Xbox 360 exclusive.
Comes with the now standard exclusive to 360 CM:
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/xbox360tokumeika/

....so yeah, either this could play out as a timed exclusive, or there wont be a PS3 version of iDOLM@STER for a very, very long time.

Also, seems Ritsuko and Azusa retired, making room for Takane and Hibiki.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2010, 03:39:01 pm »
Most definitely an Xbox 360 exclusive.
Comes with the now standard exclusive to 360 CM:
http://www.xbox.com/ja-JP/xbox360tokumeika/

....so yeah, either this could play out as a timed exclusive, or there wont be a PS3 version of iDOLM@STER for a very, very long time.
...that was one of the scariest CMs I've ever seen o_o

Can still hope it's a 'timed' exclusive (after all, games have made it to the PS3 after being Xbox-exclusive before. I know of at -least- one XD)