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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1155 on: September 28, 2010, 11:40:34 am »
Personally I don't care about the changes, but only because they left Yayoi in tact. It was like they approached the situation trying to figure out how to improve Yayoi, realized that it's physically impossible, and moved on.

I'm in the same line of thinking. I know a few friends who are complete astounded about the changes, but that's because Bamco touched their favourites.

As long as Yayoi is good to go, I'm game :3

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1156 on: September 28, 2010, 04:42:26 pm »
Well considering the guy who made Dearly Stars was fired indirectly for how poor Dearly Stars did and was received, I don't see any DS version any time soon. You make a game and it does poorly, and you get offed because of it. It's cruel, but that's business for you.

If we start nitpicking over the new danketu, Yukiho is usually shy and it strikes me as weird that she would say anything publicly about boys. And then suddenly, male idols! Yeah, that is not going to go down well.

I never cared for Ami because her voice is like listening to a car motor running at full but her talking about boys makes sense to me. As does Miki, because well, she's Miki.

I will still buy it so long as Chihaya and Yayoi are left alone. Otherwise I will buy Dream Club Zero instead and continue to play L4U.

They were too ambitious about DS's capabilities and fans' tolerance, emphasize on fans' tolerance

Shit will be real once the real fans break the real DVDs, like this:


Seriously, there are just too much change in iM@S 2. No more Yurina Hase, guys and lost 4 idols out of the box.

I'd say that they take "THE iDOLM@STER must go on!" slogan too seriously :/
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1157 on: September 28, 2010, 06:01:27 pm »
Yurina Hase left because she was having issues, right? Didn't she get death threats or something? I think that's a pretty acceptable reason to resign...that isn't NBGI's fault, and Yukiho can't just go voiceless. I think saying "Yurishii is gone, iDOLM@STER is officially worse!" is a little harsh on her...

Also, Azumin isn't the script-writer for Yukiho...so that is NBGI's fault. I think Asakura Azumi really doesn't get enough credit for the job she does as Yukiho. She's not the same as Yurishii's Yukiho, but I don't think we could've asked for something better with Yurishii gone.

I never cared for Ami because her voice is like listening to a car motor running at full but her talking about boys makes sense to me. As does Miki, because well, she's Miki.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1158 on: September 28, 2010, 07:19:51 pm »
Oh hi, there's going to be another interview with Director-1 in this months issue of ゲーマガ, which kinda got leaked online already.

Pretty much Director-1 waffling about shit we know already, and I'm beginning to think it'll be best if he was fired, for the sake of Im@s.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1159 on: September 28, 2010, 11:33:39 pm »
I think there is reason to be unhappy about IMAS2, if it had been my favourite which was un produceable i'd be really unhappy as well. I think the lack of multi-player is a bit crappy when it had it before.

I have no problem with jupiter, i like them. the song was good, and i think it makes a decent adversary in the game.

The Yukiho situation bothers me a lot however, and I think a few people dont quite understand why. I think generally speaking, no one has anything against the new VA as a person, the problem is simply "its not Hase" in other words, she dosnt sound the same - that is the issue - its not why/how or any of that, its simply that Yukiho fans liked Hase's voice - that was a big part of what yukiho is. For anyone who is not a Yukiho fan, you dont notice the voice, you think its the same - i'm sorry, but its not. Thats nothing against the new VA, but if you like a certain singer in a band or a solo artist, if you swap them for someone else, no matter how great they are, its not the person you like, its not the sound you liked. That is the problem. I also think that the new graphics dont help, because at the same time she now sounds different and looks different at once, so shes changed too much for fans to just ignore, had it been just one it might have been ok, but both at once is too much of a change to not be reminded of every time.

I dont own an xbox, and now my priority in this is to get an xbox and buy IMAS1 and L4U and the DLC i want before they stop it. Not IMAS2. I will get IMAS2, but my "IMAS love" is in/for the old games - the videos i have been seeing on youtube, that funny, shy, quiet girl who digs holes. I came to like IMAS from youtube vids of the old games, had I been given just imas 2 videos, i dont think it would have got me hooked so much, Yukiho just isn't so cute any more, she's just not the same.

I think its the same type of thing as love in a way, like in those stories where a person falls in love with a girl, then they are forced apart for a long time and then reunited, even though its the same person, they are really in love with that girl from years ago, not the one in front of them. My point is this, when the heart shapes to a certain key, no matter what your mind says, anything but the original, even if its just a memory, simply doesn't fit. No one can fix it, or change it, that's just how it is. I think all things with human emotion are like that, be it favourite music, a person's face, or the love of your life, anything but the exact thing which caused the original emotion simply isn't enough to do it again.

As for the "i like men" line in denkatsu, well that's just plain stupid, I don't believe anyone that shy would ever make such a mistake, her shyness would sub-consciously prevent her doing such a thing. A word-slip like that is when your really thinking about something else and you say the word on your mind not the word you meant to say, that basically means they are saying Yukiho was thinking about men/boys when she was talking. That is what me and all the other fans are super pissed about, Yukiho wouldn't do that, and now there's male idols, it stinks of namco trying for a romance story. Its out of character, and the fact they changed the line in the song, it means its a forced character change.

Thats where most of this rage is coming from. The other fans, ie the ones for the removed idols have basically attached to that notion, and are thinking that similar silly ideas are due for their favourites too.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1160 on: September 29, 2010, 12:59:49 am »
Well I think in order to play this game you'll have to have a clear and open mind to the characters as if you've never seen them before.
Maybe that's why they're purposely killing off their fanbase so they can have a fresh start. (For whatever reason)

Also, like in the upcoming release of Portal 2, the writers probably wanted to kill some things they didn't like (In Portal they are killing the cake meme which they much dislike).
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1161 on: September 29, 2010, 07:45:58 am »
I think the only character you'd really need an open mind for is Yukiho, as her voice is a little different. It seems like the other characters (personality-wise) stayed mostly the same.

I just think it's a little ridiculous that fans make it seem like everything is wrong with iM@S2. Yukiho's voice actor is different. We have a rival in the same production company. There are male idols.

NBGI hasn't done anything to suggest that Jupiter will immediately swarm into your office and start seducing your idol. Fans did that, but it's to be expected because fans can ship anything that comes in quantities of more than 1.

Yukiho's new voice can't be helped; Yurishii quit. And they're doing the best that they can given the fact that they had to give Yukiho a new voice...it's better than her being out of the game because of the aforementioned fact.
edit: I know Yukiho is different now; there's nothing wrong with still loving the old Yukiho. But you can either keep with her now, or choose a new favorite. She'll exist as she always did in the old games, but she has to be changed for the new one. There isn't another way unless they remove her entirely.

A friend of mine came up with the idea that Ryuuguu Komachi exists because of the new commu system; as with 9 idols, there's a possibility of 84 different trio combinations, which would all branch into, without a doubt, specific responses and such with different trios. Add the 4 idols removed; then there's 286 possible. That'd be a lot of work for the CVs.
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1162 on: September 29, 2010, 08:21:36 am »
I don't know about you guys, but I'm glad that we finally have male idols. That way, girls can join in on the fun too, and Idolm@ster will no longer be branded by outsiders as "that game where you molest underage female idols," lol.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1163 on: September 29, 2010, 10:03:08 am »
@TweenDoriru
Seiyuus are the actual life of any voiced characters. Different seiyuu = different person, no matter what happened

It can't be helped, yes, but the other stuffs made it worse.

@Lushe: it doesn't make it easier to explain this game to those who don't understand, the core is still the same. I find it hard to answer when people ask "What music are you listening to? What is the band? I've never heard about it, what is it?" to me.


Also, the ratio of fanboys : fangirls in japan is not good. There are more existing fanboys than untapped fangirls.

Lastly, I don't like the new Chihaya, her head is just too round
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1164 on: September 29, 2010, 10:09:40 am »
Well, out of all the "negative" things about im@s2, only one really upsets me: the fact that Ritsuko, Azusa, Iori, and Mami (or was it Ami? I'm not sure) are now rivals.

Other than that, I'm fine with Jupiter and Yukiho's new VA.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1165 on: September 29, 2010, 10:55:26 am »
Pros:
1.Now you can produce Hibiki and Takane
2.New Miki and Iori Hairstyle, also one of the twins now has long hair and they dont act as one =)
3.New Makoto deserves her own point
4.Jupiter
5.Ryuugu Komachi outfits =)(plus being a separate team could lead to interesting things)
6.Better graphics

Cons:
1.RIP Yukiho
2.Online
3.Not being able to produce Ryuugu Komachi(i hope this isnt true)
4.Those yellow outfits
5.Region locked (╬ ಠ益ಠ)
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1166 on: September 29, 2010, 11:38:23 am »
I wouldn't put Jupiter in the pro section, it's more 50/50 at this point.

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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1167 on: September 29, 2010, 11:54:56 am »
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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1168 on: September 29, 2010, 12:55:28 pm »
Also costumes.

Come to think of it, I've bought a LOT of DLC (which is still incomplete..) but the punkish gothic one has to be the best. I just wish everyone didn't associate it with Haruka, since the other idols have custom made costumes under punkish gothic too.


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Re: iDOLM@STER 2!!
« Reply #1169 on: September 29, 2010, 02:39:25 pm »
Pros:
1.Now you can produce Hibiki and Takane
2.New Miki and Iori Hairstyle, also one of the twins now has long hair and they dont act as one =)
3.New Makoto deserves her own point
4.Jupiter
5.Ryuugu Komachi outfits =)(plus being a separate team could lead to interesting things)
6.Better graphics

Cons:
1.RIP Yukiho
2.Online
3.Not being able to produce Ryuugu Komachi(i hope this isnt true)
4.Those yellow outfits
5.Region locked (╬ ಠ益ಠ)

Don't believe that's confirmed yet.

Though it doesn't affect those of us with a Japanese console <3

But still, I don't believe its been confirmed as region locked.