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Re: Games, Games, GAMES!! (Besides iDOLM@STER, of course XD)
« Reply #2565 on: March 23, 2016, 12:39:12 pm »
I think what worries me more is the comments in said article, as well as general commentary revolving around the decision.

I really, really, really hope for most of the people making commentary around the game that their employers (or potential employers) don't find out about their comments.
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Re: Games, Games, GAMES!! (Besides iDOLM@STER, of course XD)
« Reply #2566 on: March 29, 2016, 01:01:30 am »
I have a $5 off coupon from play-asia that expires on May 6 (you'll have to spend at least $60 for the coupon to work).  I'm giving it away, so PM me if you want it.

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« Reply #2567 on: March 31, 2016, 10:01:37 am »
I guess for those that missed the Final Fantasy XV news.


-The release date is on September 30.

-There's a prologue demo available (not the same as the demo from last year which could be only obtain by buying Type 0 HD)

-There's going to be a CG movie prequel.

-There's also a 5 episode anime OVA (I think based on events before the game?)

First episode can be watched here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVhwsUFaDE

-There's an Ultimate Collector's Edition (cost $270) that just got sold out in like 40 minutes.  (There was a total of 30,000 copies)

-There's also a Deluxe edition ($80) and Day one edition (regular edition)


I'm planning on getting the regular edition.
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Re: Games, Games, GAMES!! (Besides iDOLM@STER, of course XD)
« Reply #2568 on: March 31, 2016, 01:58:55 pm »
I don't know, i played through all numbered FF games apart from 9 (i tried it about 2 years ago and couldn't stomach 13 seconds loading time before every random battle so i gave up midway) FF 11, which is an MMO and 12 which is not available on any system but a PS2 (which i don't have). I played a lot of 14 though and even completed 10-2, 13-2 and 13-3.

But FF15... somehow i just don't care about it. Final Fantasy should not be a bromance road movie, it just feels so wrong. Nor does the battle system belong to an FF game. Seriously, they should have kept the name FF Versus and not make it a numbered game.

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« Reply #2569 on: March 31, 2016, 08:30:38 pm »
But FF15... somehow i just don't care about it.

Everyone has their own personal taste, so it's okay to express your opinion.

I played Final Fantasy 4-9 (played just a little bit of 10 and 12 but I guess that doesn't count).  But, I think Final Fantasy XV will be good.  I guess I could address some of your concerns.  But, overall it's up to you if you want to give it a try.

Final Fantasy should not be a bromance road movie, it just feels so wrong.

I mean, the overall story/plot is about war, monarchy, politics, etc.  The road trip thing is meant to emphasize the exploration part of the game which is something fans have kept asking Square-Enix to do since recent FF games didn't really have that.  You can drive your car, and then park it on the side of the road so that you can explore the immense landscape.

As for the all male party, they decided to be different this time.  I mean, there's still female characters that play a big role in the game like Luna (heroine and protagonist's fiancee) and Cindy (Cidney).  There are JRPGs with all female party, and I think Final Fantasy 10-2 it was all female?  So, I don't think there was any JRPG that had an all male party.  Obviously, all past FF games had mixed party members so this will be a first time the formula will be different.  The developers stated that putting female party members wouldn't portray an all male party/bromance very well.

Nor does the battle system belong to an FF game.

Square Enix seemed to want to make FF games to be more action oriented.  You could sort of see the trend in the recent FF games.  Final Fantasy XV is probably the most action oriented FF game, but I think that's good at least for me.  Since I'm a fan of action games.

I don't know about Final Fantasy VII remake, but probably they might implement both action/turn-based elements.

Seriously, they should have kept the name FF Versus and not make it a numbered game.

I think it was actually called FF XIII versus in the beginning for that XIII project they've been planning on.  But, I guess since FF XIII versus was so huge and it's been in development for a really long time, that they decided to make it a separate title thus FF XV.

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« Reply #2570 on: March 31, 2016, 09:18:57 pm »
I actually prefer the Action RPG gameplay of FFXV. I usually get bored of turn-based RPGs quickly, even though I want to play the original FFVII. But I can get behind real-time action RPGs, so I personally am okay with this and the FFVII Remake going for a more action-based combat system. This is probably the one time I actually give a damn about Final Fantasy.

As for the name change, it makes sense since the further along development it went and how there have been four FFXIII games already (I include Type-0) and Versus XIII was so different and, what mariokirby said, the game was in development for so long. Honestly, it'd make no sense keeping it as Versus XIII since it's so separate from it now and XIII is kinda irrelevant now anyway so it wouldn't make sense to keep dwelling on it.
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« Reply #2571 on: March 31, 2016, 11:27:19 pm »
I don't say it will be a bad game, and i get that they want to try a lot of new stuff. But they changed so much, basically everything that makes a game a numbered FF, that it just isn't a main series Final Fantasy anymore to me. There have been quite a lot of action oriented games with the FF name like Crystal Chronicles/Bearers or FF VII Advent Children, but they were always spin offs, and not entries to the main series. Call it something else, and i'll be happy.

It like that FPS they originally called XCOM (and eventually released as The Bureau: XCOM Declassified). It might be a good game, but it is NOT an X-COM game.

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Re: Games, Games, GAMES!! (Besides iDOLM@STER, of course XD)
« Reply #2572 on: April 01, 2016, 12:55:17 am »
Oh, and to add about the name change with Final Fantasy XIII Versus to Final Fantasy XV, they probably also didn't want to associated with XIII because of the poor reception the XIII series got from the fans.  I think it's consider one of the worst Final Fantasy's by fans.


@Naryoril

That's fine.  Everyone has their own preferences.  There are some fans that share your perspective and opinions.


One thing for sure is that they brought back exploration which is somethings fans liked from the older FF's.  And, there's still FF's stuff like Chocobos, Moogles, FF victory tune, summons, etc.   

I know they changed a lot of stuff, but I think that could reach more people meaning people who aren't FF fans like casual gamers.
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Re: Games, Games, GAMES!! (Besides iDOLM@STER, of course XD)
« Reply #2573 on: April 09, 2016, 12:01:50 pm »
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Re: Games, Games, GAMES!! (Besides iDOLM@STER, of course XD)
« Reply #2574 on: April 09, 2016, 04:52:58 pm »
Every so often, there's projects that are run.

So, in this case, a friend went over the top with DoA Extreme 3, and if you've wondered what the deal is, well...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeslagter/albums/72157666878154736

Of course, there were more than a few... interesting shots.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeslagter/26052804490/in/album-72157666878154736/

For various reasons, I'm looking for someone who'd want to do a photoshop, only cause, well, considering the contents of the shoot, if you look at the left hand side, well, I imagine that would describe every DOA Extreme 3 fan when they opened the game.

(I'm not immune to making bad, bad jokes, but that one was so deserved...)
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« Reply #2575 on: April 10, 2016, 03:21:21 am »
Yeah, I said I suffered through DmC in the anime thread, but if we're gonna talk about it, we'd better do it here. I played through it once on Nephilheim... or however you spell it, doing no deaths/no items for each level clear, and well... it's a game. It plays naturally. Combat is pretty seamless and flows well. But... uhm, that may be it?

The problem with the gameplay is that in general, it's too easy to stay in the air where it's safe. Launcher -> Roulette/Double Up -> Angel Lift gets you really high in the air, away from most enemies' reach, it's pretty braindead to do, and you can do it as often as you want to never hit the ground... well, until you kill whoever you're juggling, in which case you can use Demon Pull or Rake to get someone else up to you. Rinse, repeat - most combat is flowchartalicious. Vergil is a little better about this - it's harder to stay in the air as him, but he still has aerial abuses.

Later in the game, they get better about this, but only so much, and this never really changes for the most part. I remember some levels being harder simply because of environmental hazards - pits you can fall down, floors that damage you, and that stuff... and that type of difficulty is more frustrating than giving me some enemies that, even when I know them, need some reflexes and planning to take down.

The morphing levels were amazing... though they'd often give way to platforming sections that got old after a while. I do like the idea of the world literally being out to get you on principle, so maybe someone out there can refine it so that it's not a chore to deal with.

The writing sucks hard. The story is pretty laughable. Boss fights are comically easy, once you know the fight. Dante's Devil Trigger is not interesting at all, but at least it comes with cool graphical effects. Vergil's Devil Trigger is nice, though.

Edgy Dante doesn't have any good lines and says nothing memorable. He doesn't show any conviction to some moral cause, and he acts like complete gutter trash. About the only good thing I can say about his character is that he acts like a normal dude. Thus, I guess it's easier to fit yourself into his shoes rather than original Dante, who comes off as a larger than life superhero... well, it would be easier if Edgy Dante weren't being an emotional punk. But the other thing is that there already was an emotional punk character in the DMC universe - his name was Nero. And Nero was much more likable than this guy, because he didn't come off as gutter trash. Edgy Dante... well, he might have his name, but he'll never have his fire.

Even with all I've said, DmC still is a complete game, and by action game standards, it's at least good. It's just most of the problems I have with it are game balance related. While it's better than DMC1, it's only better because DMC1 came out at the beginning of the PS2's lifespan when this game was the first of its kind, while DmC came out at the end of the PS3's. DMC3 and DMC4 are still better than this game.

It's weird that I'm playing a game I don't like so I can play another game I do, but I hope seeing DmC lets me appreciate DMC4: SE a bit more. Guess it's time to pop that in and forget this game existed. At least the price was right (~1800 yen for both the game and Vergil's Downfall).
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Re: Games, Games, GAMES!! (Besides iDOLM@STER, of course XD)
« Reply #2576 on: April 10, 2016, 06:03:10 am »
@Cael

I appreciate the explanation.  Usually, I tend to focus on playing the better games of a franchise because of time (and sometimes money), so I'll pass on DmC.  If I was a Devil may Cry fan, then maybe I might have given it a try.




I heard that Dead or Alive Extreme 3 broke sales record at play-asia.  Don't think there were numbers provided.  Still, I guess that's good overall.
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« Reply #2577 on: April 10, 2016, 06:33:41 am »
@Cael

I appreciate the explanation.  Usually, I tend to focus on playing the better games of a franchise because of time (and sometimes money), so I'll pass on DmC.  If I was a Devil may Cry fan, then maybe I might have given it a try.

I'm of a different mindset from this. If I want to play a series, I play the entire series, both the good and the bad. My reason being that I think the best way to appreciate a series is to go through both good and bad games. Playing through the bad games just helps the good games stand out even more, whereas just playing/watching the good stuff is, honestly, kinda boring to me. Yes, everything is good, but I can't appreciate it as much if I'm completely ignoring the bad that the dev team fixes later on.

That's why when I play the Devil May Cry series, I'm playing all of them. Including DMC2 and I know that everybody hates that one. It'd probably help me like 3 more than I would.
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« Reply #2578 on: April 10, 2016, 09:12:21 am »
If I want to play a series, I play the entire series, both the good and the bad. My reason being that I think the best way to appreciate a series is to go through both good and bad games.

That's a good philosophy to have.  You'll have more gaming experience that way.  Of course, one thing for sure is that your gaming backlog does increase.

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« Reply #2579 on: April 10, 2016, 05:02:16 pm »
That's a good philosophy to have.  You'll have more gaming experience that way.  Of course, one thing for sure is that your gaming backlog does increase.

Same here. Let's see...taking some examples of a few of my favorite series...
Xenosaga II
Suikoden IV
I have all the Atelier games from the Iris trilogy on
The first Neptunia...hard to believe how far the series has come since then