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DL Lives
Reikuo:
They definitely dropped the ball on this IMO. Its just bad decision on top of bad decision.
Drop rates are classic MMO level of drop, the drop rates are absolutely atrocious we all know that one.
The lives that you end up farming at A rank to get everyone to S all use the same 2-3 types of outfit, your forced to either be efficient and do the same live with the same outfit over and over alongside seeing the same stage over and over or be inefficient, further the already extremely brutal grind and farm lives of the costume type you want to see and get very little fans.
Gold Boxes that drop from DL lives do not contain the base game gold box drops making it very punishing just to get an accessory you like.
There is no reason to buy the DLC outfits unless your big into S4U, as the game picks your outfit for you so why spend 1500 yen per outfit?
Comparing this to a slot machine is not really a good comparison, because if you roll triple 7's on a slot machine your getting your payout. When you see a gold box pop up not only could it have the S rank accessory's that you are guaranteed to get in S rank, but it could just be a double of a S rank outfit you already have.
As stated earlier in the thread, hyper fans might put up with the state of this game but any casual fan of the genre or just casual fan in general is not going to farm for ages for drops. The songs are old, the characters are established, they had one job and that was to make costumes for them to wear and they just totally botched that aspect of the game. I dont think I have ever not worn the tiara on the head. Its just sad.
My personal ideas for a fix with minimal effort on Namcos part:
Overall increased drop rates
Gold tickets should have a chance to reward S rank outfits
A Live for ranks F-S that has randomized stages and requests a different random outfit type each time you complete it, with no cool/cute/cosmic/clever secondary typing. Or it could just even be typeless. This Live will reward the most fans out of all the lives in that rank.
Fixes with more work required:
Overall increased drop rates, but to keep heavy farmers/pdrop users interested there should be hyper ultra rare outfits and accessory's with nasty drop rates.
Small set of outfits/accessory's added to the store ranging from 500k to 5million. Money feels totally useless in this, in addition getting duplicates to sell would not seem quite as shitty as it does now.
New outfits to be worn by the idols in the menus, either sold in the shop or rare drops
DeathStrikr:
Are the drop rates for the DL Lives lower than normal lives or have I just been getting lucky with normal lives?
I've done ~600 regular lives and haven't really had any issues with drops. I get silver presents pretty frequently and have gotten around 15 gold presents total (Just missing the leg accessory at this point).
Only thing is I am on a US account so I can't use P-Drops, though I'm not sure if that factors in.
Setsuna:
--- Quote from: DeathStrikr on August 23, 2016, 03:07:02 am ---Are the drop rates for the DL Lives lower than normal lives or have I just been getting lucky with normal lives?
I've done ~600 regular lives and haven't really had any issues with drops. I get silver presents pretty frequently and have gotten around 15 gold presents total (Just missing the leg accessory at this point).
Only thing is I am on a US account so I can't use P-Drops, though I'm not sure if that factors in.
--- End quote ---
I'd kill for your luck. We're working on a particularly small sample size, (There's not that many people playing Platinum Stars, basically) but you've gotten more in 600 lives than I've managed over the course of roughly twice that. This includes 2 gold presents I forced out via p-drop use.
Also, DL live drops use a different drop table (Which is not shown). It's known at this point that any of the 6 (The S rank, the C rank, and any of the 4 accessories) can show up, and it's not known if it's a glitch or not, but you can turn up any of the F or E costumes out of a gold present too.
None of the regular gold present items will show if you're doing the DL live. All the silver ones use the regular drop system, but apparently they added the chance (might have glitched) where you can get the DL live accessories out of a silver present.
It could be that there's a region compensation - we were speculating that, but it's very difficult to measure, mostly cause we'd need people to sacrifice huge amounts of time to test the theory.
(Namely, JP, KR and China (When China releases) accounts have lower drop rates to drive p-drop purchases.)
DeathStrikr:
--- Quote from: Setsuna on August 23, 2016, 03:16:06 am ---I'd kill for your luck. We're working on a particularly small sample size, (There's not that many people playing Platinum Stars, basically) but you've gotten more in 600 lives than I've managed over the course of roughly twice that. This includes 2 gold presents I forced out via p-drop use.
Also, DL live drops use a different drop table (Which is not shown). It's known at this point that any of the 6 (The S rank, the C rank, and any of the 4 accessories) can show up, and it's not known if it's a glitch or not, but you can turn up any of the F or E costumes out of a gold present too.
None of the regular gold present items will show if you're doing the DL live. All the silver ones use the regular drop system, but apparently they added the chance (might have glitched) where you can get the DL live accessories out of a silver present.
It could be that there's a region compensation - we were speculating that, but it's very difficult to measure, mostly cause we'd need people to sacrifice huge amounts of time to test the theory.
(Namely, JP, KR and China (When China releases) accounts have lower drop rates to drive p-drop purchases.)
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Hm, I'll try just playing the DL lives from now on and see if I get different drop rates. Was avoiding it before because I wanted the other s rank costumes first.
Still ways away from grinding everyone to S Rank, so I'll probably have a large sample size of lives by the end of it.
Naryoril:
@setsuna: all that is completely irrelevant if you don't want to make a catalog, or make videos with every possible item out there. How many people does that concern? Most probably less than 1%, probably even less than 0.1%
@reikuo: all this, while valid, has nothing to do with the DL lives, or more precisely whether the items you get from DL lives are recolors or not. In fact the DL lives help with what you are saying by adding more A rank lives with probably all different costume requirements.
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