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DL Lives
Naryoril:
--- Quote from: iTiffany21 on August 11, 2016, 02:16:40 pm ---Is there a certain level requirement you need to be at to complete these lives?
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Not to participate them afaik, but to be able to actually beat (as in, ex clear) them, yes there is some implicit level requirement since you need to reach a high enough score.
meichan111:
Thank god they aren't limited came a little late for the party so don't have high lvl idols yet so are happy to know
Setsuna:
There are time related drop issues which actually arise if (and we need to wait for the confirmation) the DL lives are not time limited though.
There's some math involved, but I promise, it's simple.
At the moment (DL live 1) there's currently 10 items in residence in the gold presents (If you're wondering it's the 4 accessories)
Now for catalog 1, you have a 1/10 chance of getting a specific item.
Still with me?
DL live 2 will add in 4 more accessories to the Gold drop list.
So the odds of getting as single item are now 1/14.
Okay, you ask, but wouldn't this mean that I have more chances of getting A DL live item?
Yes, until you remember one thing - You can get DOUBLES, and can do so forever. Capped an item to level 10? You'll STILL get doubles.
In short, constantly adding to the gold drop list actually makes it significantly HARDER to complete the costume collection, not easier, and this problem only compounds, increasing the difficulty by 50% each DL live.
So given how often Gold presents drop (Namely, for me, without pdrop interference I see one every 300 lives or 35 HOURS) you could be there... oh, from now to sometime before the heat death of the universe, because the odds go extensively long.
Naryoril:
afaik the special DL live items from gold presents only drop in the corresponding DL live, and the DL live only drops these items in gold presents.
So the DL lives should't influence the collection completion for the trophy at all. In fact, if you are going for the trophy, you should avoid playing the DL live more than necessary and spend your time on other events.
That said: my guess is that turning in gold cards is the same as opening a gold present. And at least with silver cards you can close and restart the game if you don't like what you got (e.g. the xp drink für 10k xp) and try again. So i assume this works with gold cards as well. So it's probably best to keep your gold cards until you only need as many s rank costumes as you can turn in with gold cards. Using reloading you can make sure you get the costume you are missing, and while this probably will take some time, it's certainly faster than hoping for the correct drop from a gold present.
Setsuna:
--- Quote from: Naryoril on August 16, 2016, 01:42:18 pm ---afaik the special DL live items from gold presents only drop in the corresponding DL live, and the DL live only drops these items in gold presents.
So the DL lives should't influence the collection completion for the trophy at all. In fact, if you are going for the trophy, you should avoid playing the DL live more than necessary and spend your time on other events.
That said: my guess is that turning in gold cards is the same as opening a gold present. And at least with silver cards you can close and restart the game if you don't like what you got (e.g. the xp drink für 10k xp) and try again. So i assume this works with gold cards as well. So it's probably best to keep your gold cards until you only need as many s rank costumes as you can turn in with gold cards. Using reloading you can make sure you get the costume you are missing, and while this probably will take some time, it's certainly faster than hoping for the correct drop from a gold present.
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The fun part? That's incorrect - I forced the DL live 1 ring to drop from the S ranked All star. Yep. it's just 'very unlikely', but nowhere close to impossible.
The gold cards have a restricting mechanic which I've extensively tested - The gold cards encompass all A and B rank items as well, and as far as I can tell (After a LOT of resets) cannot generate an item you don't actually have.
The most fun part?
I've not been able to make the gold cards generate an S rank item, after 100 attempts. (As the only costumes I'm missing that are in the general pool are (as you can guess) the S rank costumes, 100 attempts should have revealed at least ONE S rank costume, even if it's a double.)
I'm either incredibly unlucky (And computers don't work the way they should) or there's a lot of assumptions in place. If you can catch me online we can work together on this part, as I have setups ready to go to test, if you can find me out of work hours.
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