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About character development.....
animagic4u:
--- Quote from: MetalPredat0r on January 11, 2016, 04:44:24 pm ---One big example for me is Miku Maekawa from Cinderella Girls. When she was first introduced, she was just a stereotypical anime cat girl that you see everywhere else. Then the anime came out and showed her jealousy and need to improve herself and then she suddenly became a developed character.
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This is an interesting point in terms of anime, but I feel like real life idols still tend to be that gimmicky.
--- Quote from: Freedomzz on January 11, 2016, 05:07:21 pm ---Also...Do you mind elaborate this?
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Sure.
I think that it's possible to have a perfectly normal backstory and still have an interesting character. The average girl can still be put into difficult situations that test her.
Just because something tragic hasn't happened in her past doesn't mean she can't have dimension. Having an easy, normal life is actually the perfect build up for putting a character through a lot of stress and really testing them. They'll have a lot of things to deal with that they're not used to which gives them a lot of room to build their character.
For instance, Uzuki is a normal girl who seems to have grown up in a rather normal and stable situation. (CG Spoilers)
When she becomes an idol, things start going well for her until everything starts to fall apart around her. The project she's working on is threatened, her friends and unit members start to move away from her, and she is forced to deal with kind of troubles she's never felt before
MetalPredat0r:
--- Quote from: animagic4u on January 11, 2016, 05:46:22 pm ---This is an interesting point in terms of anime, but I feel like real life idols still tend to be that gimmicky.
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Right. Although I have different expectations between reality and fiction. In reality, I know that idols are mainly there to entertain onstage, TV, etc. so having a gimmick makes sense in terms of entertainment.
In fiction, i.e. iM@S, I usually expect more than just a gimmick since you're trying to tell a story/shown us the characters in addition to entertaining. Although this isn't helped that some of the extremely gimmicky/bland idols don't have voices, let alone CDs and songs. >_>
animagic4u:
--- Quote from: MetalPredat0r on January 11, 2016, 06:06:26 pm ---Right. Although I have different expectations between reality and fiction. In reality, I know that idols are mainly there to entertain onstage, TV, etc. so having a gimmick makes sense in terms of entertainment.
In fiction, i.e. iM@S, I usually expect more than just a gimmick since you're trying to tell a story/shown us the characters in addition to entertaining. Although this isn't helped that some of the extremely gimmicky/bland idols don't have voices, let alone CDs and songs. >_>
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Yeah I agree on this point. That's exactly what I'm looking for in fiction.
Okayu:
--- Quote from: MetalPredat0r on January 11, 2016, 06:06:26 pm ---Although this isn't helped that some of the extremely gimmicky/bland idols don't have voices, let alone CDs and songs. >_>
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I'd say it's because they aren't interesting that they haven't been voiced. After all who gets voiced is often picked by popularity, and if a character is too forgettable to be popular it's unlikely they'll be picked to be expanded on.
Think of it like the character design process, but instead of it being behind closed doors and deciding what doesn't work themselves, they just throw whatever at CG and see which appeals and which doesn't.
mariokirby:
--- Quote from: Freedomzz on January 11, 2016, 02:33:40 pm ---For example, if somehow an Im@s fiction revealing Haruka/Uzuki (which most fans tend to accuse them for being one dimensional character) backstory, showing their hidden characteristic (and probably changing their personality in certain situation), does Haruka/Uzuki become well-rounded/developed character?
Kinda wish moment like this happen later in the PS4 game
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First off, I strongly disagree with the statement that Haruka's one dimensional and has no background story.
The more knowledgeable im@s fans have pretty much summed it up already.
--- Quote from: Okayu on January 11, 2016, 03:13:54 pm ---Haruka already has her backstory revealed. ::)
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--- Quote from: animagic4u on January 11, 2016, 03:31:11 pm ---As a HarukaP, I don't see Haruka as a one-dimensional character. It's fun watching her in many different situations (communications) and hearing what she thinks about all of the things that happen to her on a daily basis.
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Also, here's another small analysis another Haruka fan had made awhile back. Go to question number 3.
http://forum.project-imas.com/index.php/topic,2358.msg62925.html#msg62925
--- Quote from: animagic4u on January 11, 2016, 05:46:22 pm ---I think that it's possible to have a perfectly normal backstory and still have an interesting character. The average girl can still be put into difficult situations that test her.
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I agree.
I don't know why most fans would say this about Haruka. I'm very convinced that those people don't know much about im@s, so you shouldn't take their opinions seriously.
I'm not considered as one of the im@s experts, but I feel Haruka has a background story and character development.
(I'll admit, not knowing Japanese does hold me back from fully understanding the individual im@s character. But, I do make an attempt going through the main games, dramas, etc and see what the experts say about it.)
Off topic:
I would love to learn more Haruka from anyone that's knowledgeable about her.
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