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Okayu:
--- Quote from: liza94 on March 25, 2015, 01:44:57 pm ---Thank you for making this topic, Okayu! I have a question: what does "nanto naku" mean in this context? なんとなく永遠だと思ったどこにも永遠なんてないのに It reads as "nanto naku eien to omotta doko ni mo eien nante nai no ni". My translation: "I thought that ... ... eternity even though eternity is nowhere to be found".
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Nantonaku's definition is the following:
somehow or other; for some reason or another
Naryoril:
There are quite a bunch of differences between Anki and Wanikani, personally i use both.
Anki is simply an SRS tool, and that's it, but it allows you to create your own decks and/or share them with others/use the decks others have created themselves. You can incorporate mnemonics in it, but most people/decks don't. I use Anki for words and kanji (and some grammar) i come accross and which i want to learn thoroughly. You can use Anki for anything, not just japanese.
Memrise is closer since it is more built around mnemonics. You can still create your own courses or use courses others have created, thus it can also be used for anything.
Wanikani on the other hand is custom tailored for kanji learning. There is a consistent concept in the mnemonics, though i have to admit they become worse and worse the further you come. It's broken up in levels, each level consists of roughly 30 kanji, 100 vocab and a varying number of radicals. First you learn the radicals of your level, once you have proven you know them, you unlock kanji using those radicals. Once you have proven that you know the most important meaning and reading of a kanji (you went through the SRS intervals of 4 hours, 8 hours, 1 day and 3 days), you unlock vocabulary using that kanji (that also teaches you alternate readings and/or meanings). Once you did this for 90% of the kanji of a level, you level up and unlock new radicals (as well as kanji made up of known radicals and vocabulary made up of known kanji).
This level method doesn't only ensure that you know the building blocks, it also gives a structure of what to learn in which order. And on top of it, it functions as an unexpectedly strong motivational factor. These are all things you don't have and can't do with Anki or Memrise. Even if you made a ton of decks, Anki always sorts the items by deck, it completes a deck first before it shows you the cards of the next deck, and thus you always have context for your items you don't have in real life (because of this i once merged a ton of decks i made into a single big one).
But i think the reason why wanikani is not included is because it's not free. I mentioned it because i had/have a great experience with it and can highly recommend it.
@liza: i often use beta.jisho.org as an online dictionary.
Okayu:
--- Quote from: Naryoril on March 25, 2015, 02:01:57 pm ---But i think the reason why wanikani is not included is because it's not free. I mentioned it because i had/have a great experience with it and can highly recommend it.
@liza: i often use beta.jisho.org as an online dictionary.
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Yeah that's true. I added jisho to the link list as well.
Amazing_Grace:
Thank you for this. I want to learn Japanese so badly. I'll have to take a look at these sites!
Okayu:
--- Quote from: Amazing_Grace on March 28, 2015, 12:45:21 am ---Thank you for this. I want to learn Japanese so badly. I'll have to take a look at these sites!
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Good luck
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