THE iDOLM@STER > Other iM@S discussion
I Hate Other iM@S derived works
Maka:
--- Quote from: Yukibro on September 18, 2014, 11:09:53 pm ---People have already mentioned the shotgun approach Scamco has taken with CG, but ML (which has a personally more annoying problem of getting a ridiculous push) also seems to inherit the idea that you're going for simple, one-note appeal to get people interested. More importantly, the breaking point for me when comparing iM@S (as just 765) and mobage is that the former had to start off humbly. I'm sure you guys would agree that there's definite work put into them from the arcade version to now, and even if the path has been pretty rocky, there's more to the original idols than one or two appeals and maybe a unique design or two. Then you have to consider the two mobage we have now (since I'm not going to bother SM, that's far beyond any of my interest). You have CG which managed to hit a huge popularity boom to the point where it might as well be a separate entity, being filled with many one-note idols as they attempt to find someone or something that sticks. ML actually bothers me more, though, being the child of both Scamco and A-1 born with a silver spoon in its mouth. Whether it's due to the massive work done with ML in such short time or due to the laziness with CG, the fact that a year passed and ML has received 10+ CDs, live concerts, game DLC, and even a noticeable role in the first iM@S movie is just ridiculous to me.
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YES! This too! I think that's why I'm annoyed by ML so much. CG managed to grow into its own thing with only a tiny push of "hey it's 765 girls too!" but a year+ later ML is still relying on the main series... Which sucks because a lot of the ML characters could do really well on their own without 765 propping them up.
I also don't like the trend of making the characters who are essentially 765 idols PART TWO. See Fuuka (who is basically Azusa with more focus on boobs) and the entire "main trio" in each mobage. DS managed to make characters that were pretty interesting... Even though Ai seems like a Haruka clone at first (which is why I think not a lot of people like her, including me in the beginning), they're all unique with interesting struggles, and not just "Chihaya BUT IMPROVED!" or whatever.
Also it's neither here nor there, but the main cast has managed to be around for 9 years without getting boring or played out. I admit I had a part a few months ago where I was all "I'm so bored of 765pro!", but that passed.
Although I would say that Leon is really kind of a lost opportunity. don't hurt me.
Okayu:
--- Quote from: Maka on September 18, 2014, 11:23:12 pm ---I also don't like the trend of making the characters who are essentially 765 idols PART TWO. See Fuuka (who is basically Azusa with more focus on boobs) and the entire "main trio" in each mobage. DS managed to make characters that were pretty interesting... Even though Ai seems like a Haruka clone at first (which is why I think not a lot of people like her, including me in the beginning), they're all unique with interesting struggles, and not just "Chihaya BUT IMPROVED!" or whatever.
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At first glance Ai made me think of a mix of Haruka and Yayoi. What would be an "improved" Chihaya, with breasts?
As for Leon I'd say it depends how she's handled in the rest of the EX episodes. While in the game she seemed kind of not so interesting, they seem to be trying to flesh her out somewhat in the bonus routes which makes sense considering she's a world class idol.
Maka:
I kinda misworded that. I meant more like... Rin and Shizuka are supposed to be the New Chihaya, like Mirai and Uzuki are supposed to be the New Haruka.
Ai's a lot like a more energetic Haruka, but she also has a lot of deep-seated anxieties and insecurities that contrast with her "go and get it!" personality.
Yukibro:
--- Quote from: Maka on September 18, 2014, 11:23:12 pm ---Although I would say that Leon is really kind of a lost opportunity. don't hurt me.
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I don't think she's lost yet. The DLC episodes have had her appear at the end of each, so she was likely intended to be a post-game character due to her high ranking and popularity in-universe. Whether she'll be worth the wait is another thing.
--- Quote from: Maka on September 18, 2014, 11:31:21 pm ---Ai's a lot like a more energetic Haruka, but she also has a lot of deep-seated anxieties and insecurities that contrast with her "go and get it!" personality.
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On that note, Ai is more like a mix between Haruka and Yukiho.
Okayu:
--- Quote from: Maka on September 18, 2014, 11:31:21 pm ---I kinda misworded that. I meant more like... Rin and Shizuka are supposed to be the New Chihaya, like Mirai and Uzuki are supposed to be the New Haruka.
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I'd say that's more of a role than personality then.
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