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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #660 on: October 13, 2015, 04:47:37 am »
I'm finally caught up with this anime. Man I wish I had kept up with it for the entire two seasons so I could've read this thread as the episodes were airing.

At least you're here for the finale! XD  Only a few days left...

Gonna go off topic, but wow the preview for Trancing Pulse already hit 130k views in just a month, even surpassing Memories which is at 121k.(and it came out in February)  They could've made it a unit album single and it would've easily topped Oricon's chart at #3 at the very least on its own.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #661 on: October 13, 2015, 08:31:12 am »
At least you're here for the finale! XD  Only a few days left...

Gonna go off topic, but wow the preview for Trancing Pulse already hit 130k views in just a month, even surpassing Memories which is at 121k.(and it came out in February)  They could've made it a unit album single and it would've easily topped Oricon's chart at #3 at the very least on its own.

I am not suprised, Trancing Pulse is such a great song, lucky that it comes out tomorrow~ which means I will have it on friday at my home~ Thanks to my friend who studies in japan and ordered me a copy and will send it to me via EMS xD

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #662 on: October 14, 2015, 08:09:20 am »
Let's get some hype going for that last ep!

Oh, before that.  So I've been trying to catch up with all the No Make stuff lately.  I'm not sure if anyone posted this elsewhere already, but if anyone is interested in listening to them, this person has kindly translated them along with all the Magic Hour ep. up to this point on his blog.  I recommend giving at least the No Makes a listen if you haven't already, since they included some interesting things that weren't in the anime like NG's portion of the PR vid from ep 4, what the other girls were doing in the mall during NG/LL's debut concert, and Uzuki receiving her first fan letter after the summer fes, to name a few.  And I gotta say, I really liked how the scripts were actually very well-written(even more than most the convos in the anime itself  :o), with a lot of heartwarming and cute moments throughout. XD  I think a couple of the audios were missing/removed tho, but they're easy enough to find on youtube.

Back to the main topic at hand!  Any predictions on how this will end?  Tbh, I'm just more concerned/excited about what song they will perform.(eh? Amirite? AMIRITE?! XDDD)  I'm really hoping for Onegai! Cinderella extended ver(if not full).  It would be a nice way to bring this back to how it all started.  So that, and a new song like how 765 got Watashi-tachi wa Zutto.  Though I have a slight feeling they might try to be clever and combine the 2 OPs again.(StarShine? O.o)

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #663 on: October 16, 2015, 04:24:53 am »
Drew this just recently on my Deviantart page.
Looking forward to a huge finale!

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #664 on: October 16, 2015, 09:12:27 am »
Drew this just recently on my Deviantart page.
Looking forward to a huge finale!

#ProtectTheEgao (don't worry...it's a Deviantart link)

D'awww... *sniffle*


Well, I'm excited. XD  Though I'm also a little sad to see it end.  Wow, it's been almost a whole year already since it started? O.o  Will see ya'll later in the day.  ;)

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #665 on: October 16, 2015, 04:48:27 pm »
Even after seeing the end of episode 24 I still have a trace of doubt that she was able to keep her place at 346 Pro... because Mishiro didn't actually vocalize her decision.
My bets are, for the final ep, that Mishiro DOES [attempt to] fire Uzuki, but a massive backlash either from her fellow idols or fans (or both) will [have the potential to] hurt the company - y'know, THE ONE THING we've established Mishiro DOES care about - forcing Mishiro to take her back. The former wouldn't surprise me one bit (i.e. threats that if Uzuki's fired, the rest of CP leaves too - members of Krone included).

idk that's just my guess though. We'll see what really happens

EDIT: Figured I'd just edit. Theory debunked and I'm glad for it

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #666 on: October 16, 2015, 06:25:33 pm »
Final episode watched and it was amazing (the two new songs were great, I can't wait for the full version of them) and a lot of cameos, unvoiced sadly, but they were all welcome :D

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #667 on: October 16, 2015, 09:11:04 pm »
Now that the anime is over (possible OVA doesn't count), I can give my final impressions. Just a fiar warning, this is gonna be a lengthy post, but please hear me out.

I am possibly gonna get crucified for saying this, but I think this was slightly better than the 765 anime back in 2011. A-1 improved some things such as the art style, despite the still frames and QUALITY moments (Episode 3....), the story was more of a forefront, and the characters were represented better here than with 2011.

HOWEVER, what I find to be the very thing that hurts Cinderella Girls is that A-1 learned from some mistakes, but not from others, especially the major ones. For one thing, while the characters as a whole were represented better, there was still an issue with screentime. Chieri didn't get too much outside her episodes with Candy Island and Ranko became a background character in Season 2. Also, while the anime made me enjoy and respect characters I previously didn't care much for (Kirari, Miku, Miria, and Uzuki), it also made some characters worse for me. I'm looking more at Rin and Mio, who I felt were kinda........ snobbish in the anime. Season 1 had Mio storm off and quick over her own overestimation and Season 2 had Rin just go on to Project Krone without discussing it with New Generations. Both moves I felt were really bad moments for those characters and made me like them less than what I originally had.

That's another thing I want to get into, the drama. In some weird ways, this was handled better and worse than last time. Better as in some characters took their situations well and I applaud how CG's issues lied withing internal company decisions rather than "KONO KUROI DA!" or what have you. It shows how in reality there are moments where your company will pull shit you disagree with. However, it handled it worse because when the really big moments hit, they drove it too damn far. Need I remind everybody on the overuse of rain? Because, you know, we can't just let the situation speak for itself so let's just make it rain so we can make it obvious to the audience that "this is the part where you're supposed to be sad". It felt so over the top and forced, kinda like Kana's drama in the movie with everyone running in the rain with looks of despair in slow motion (that was so fucking stupid, btw).

I'm also not a fan of this one thing I figured out: A-1 has a formula. Think about it, the first few episodes are never really bad whenever iM@S is done by A-1. They have fairly good beginnings. However, once you get to the middle it starts to go downhill quite a bit, to the point where it CAN get legitimately bad, and then at the end it fixes itself slightly so that it ends up being.... alright. 2011 did that for me, the movie did that for me, and CG was no different.

Overall, I thought the Cinderella Girls anime was okay. It wasn't terrible like what some people would like to preach to you (do not go on /@/ during an anime's run, it gets nasty) but it still feels boggling how A-1 didn't fix the most jarring errors that they had four years ago. I recommend this to anyone as a starting point for Cinderella Girls to get to know the characters, settings, and overall tone and then move to the music and manga and eventually the games (if you have access) and Drama Tracks. But for a veteran CG fan...... you'll probably enjoy it more than a veteran 765 fan would with 2011 but I still say watch at your own risk.

Whew, that was a long one. @_@
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #668 on: October 16, 2015, 09:44:00 pm »
All the costumes cameos. All the costumes cameos.

In all seriousness, the last episode was... alright. That still frame on the last part of M@GIC was really awkward. The episode's ending is a nice touch though.

MetalPredat0r pretty much sums up my final impressions and I'll add that A-1 still didn't do a great job at developing characters as more than just one-trick ponies. Somehow, they do a slightly better job at representing the characters here than 2011 and I find that a shame. Other than some costumes and that one moment, there's not much fanservice in the whole anime which is pretty surprising.

Overall: Alright, but like a lot of anime, it's an up-and-down coaster so watch at your own risk.  ::)

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #669 on: October 16, 2015, 09:59:49 pm »
Personally I really loved it from start to finish! Kind of tough to write a story for a mobile game whose characters only seem to receive development through drama CDs. Though I personally saw some of the more drama bombs coming, each episode seemed to surprise me, going against my assumptions and wound up exceeding my expectations. Uzuki's moment gave me the most feels because (if you've seen one of my earlier post) I wound up relating to her the most. Miku's moments made her jump to waifu status in my book. Miria jumped even higher, especially after her sister moment. At first I was more Rika over Mika, but now I LOVE both gal sisters! Anya-chan became my favorite Cool girl among Cinderella Project!

I found TakeuchiP a lot better than AkabaneP. The latter seemed to be just "there." At least TakeuchiP got some development (I think...does Episode 7 count?) and I really found his misunderstanding moments (especially when he gets tied up with the cops) so amusing. I just hope we have an OAV showing off some of the girls in more funny slice-of-life moments.

Then again, I'm no critic and I personally just enjoy the show for what it is.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #670 on: October 16, 2015, 10:13:48 pm »
I found TakeuchiP a lot better than AkabaneP. The latter seemed to be just "there." At least TakeuchiP got some development (I think...does Episode 7 count?) and I really found his misunderstanding moments (especially when he gets tied up with the cops) so amusing. I just hope we have an OAV showing off some of the girls in more funny slice-of-life moments.

Then again, I'm no critic and I personally just enjoy the show for what it is.

Much more power to you, my friend. I guess I'm just so used to watching reviews and wanting to make reviews myself that I just get into full-on critic mode when it comes to this stuff. You can enjoy the good parts of a given work and I can respect that.

I can't believe I didn't mention TakeuchiP. To be honest, yeah, I agree wholeheartedly that he was more interesting than AkabaneP, although their developments were completely opposite. AkaP was a friendly dude but he wasn't that great at his job, developing more as a Producer. TakeP, on the other hand, is a very professional guy and yet his biggest problem was having trouble with socializing. I think TakeP is more interesting in that his development is closer to the universal iM@S theme of "danketsu" or "togetherness". Plus I can listen to that voice for hours and not get sick of it.
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #671 on: October 17, 2015, 12:19:14 am »
>no swimsuits


Woes aside, that ended as expected -- a grandeur setting sustained by thunderous applause. More importantly, it left me an open perspective to Cinderella Girls, what with alienation being a key reservation prior to my interest of anything outside 765. As far as Producers go, I'm still partial of AkabaneP since I relate with his dopey courtesy, but TakeuchiP definitely has charm built from the get-go -- the latter has growth more in line with reality, too. He also happens to be easier to make fun of, given those police skits, yet he just won't compare to our lovable PuchiP.

Moving on to antagonists, I'm still on Kuroi's boat solely due to how over-the-top he was; Mishiro on the other hand felt like she was around to subvert the living shit out of things people did or tried doing; it's almost inane, but I'll still give her points for that level of pragmatism. Funnily enough in retrospect, Miku wouldn't last a single hour after that cafe stunt had she-Kuroi been around. For all the gripes people have with this anime, though, here's to Million Live picking up those leftover pieces. I'm interested in exploring that universe proper once the time comes.

Hopefully with swimsuits because my P-side demands it. ;~;
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Suddenly, bow-wow-wow~. :3

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #672 on: October 17, 2015, 01:34:36 am »
I am possibly gonna get crucified for saying this, but I think this was slightly better than the 765 anime back in 2011. A-1 improved some things such as the art style, despite the still frames and QUALITY moments (Episode 3....), the story was more of a forefront, and the characters were represented better here than with 2011.

Well, I actually agree with you on that point.

I’m only a fan of 765pro (plus characters with direct story with them such as Kuroi, Jupiter, and Leon).

Even with this mindset I still find CG anime to be a bit better than the 2011 anime for a few reasons with the biggest reason being that the CG producer is way better than the 2011 producer. 

I find TakeuchiP to be pretty cool even though he has trouble socializing.  Still, I felt he was “closer” to his idols than AkabaneP.    I guess he kind of represents the fairy Godmother.  Plus, he continues to provide emotional support to his idols.

AkabaneP, on the other hand, I find him to be lame and weak (like your typical harem protagonist).   He kind of ruined the anime for me to the point I ranked him lower than the Break manga producer.  Unlike the game producers, he doesn’t provide much direct emotional support for Chihaya.  It was Haruka and the other 765pro idols that did all the work.  So, basically at that moment in the story Haruka was a better producer than AkabaneP himself.  I think the 765pro idols may have been a bit better represented had there been a cooler producer.

Somehow, they do a slightly better job at representing the characters here than 2011 and I find that a shame.

Yes, I agree with that.

I found TakeuchiP a lot better than AkabaneP.

To be honest, yeah, I agree wholeheartedly that he was more interesting than AkabaneP,

 Agreed.
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #673 on: October 17, 2015, 02:58:45 am »
I still can't believe TakeuchiP is voiced by a 17-year-old with that deep voice of his!

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #674 on: October 17, 2015, 04:54:12 am »
I am possibly gonna get crucified for saying this, but I think this was slightly better than the 765 anime back in 2011.
I haven't heard much from other fans comparing the two, but I would feel that would be the general conscience. They just had more to inject into the story here than with what 765Pro already did in the games and such. I don't think fans would appreciate seeing their favorite 765 character portrayed as selfish and crybabies like what they could get away with with CG idols (and as demonstrated from someone else a couple posts back, you can't win 'em all  ;) ).

It ended they way as anyone would expect. I just wish the climax paid off more. Some great moments, especially the acting and music, so it did its job. Could the story be a little more daring, sure, but with the large cast it had I think they did a pretty good job letting about 89% percent of the idols get a fair amount screen time, and about half of that lot getting a more serious look at during the series.

That said, I can't help but feel slighted by all those still shots of the units during the last 5 minutes of the episode. I really, really wished they has used the previous episode start with the concert and then let the idols have their moments on stage. If you know Overdrive you know they made an OVA based off the bands featured in their visual novels and it was pretty cool. Imagine that with this cast and a respectable budget that they had here. Kohime Muso even had an OVA where they had the characters spent the entire time doing a "live" concert. It was fun.
Just having so many still shots... Hoo boy. It's a tease, at best. I know they're using the anime to sell fans on the music/CDs, but give us a little more fanservice  with the anime on that regard, too.
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