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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #420 on: June 23, 2015, 09:24:08 pm »
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For that whole thing with Mio, I think they could have handled it better.  I know she's only 15, but so was Miki and although she was still in the wrong, her reason was more justifiable.  She was given false hopes for like 6 episodes that she could get into RK, only to be shot down after working so hard.


This is exactly why I feel Cinderella girls has really dropped the ball on writing; specifically its pacing. Miki actually had foreshadowing, and while she also got criticized by the fandom, she at least had proper motivations for doing so that was in character. I'm really hating that im@s can't seem to come up with a better plot line than "I just can't be an idol anymore *dramatic crying*" when it's much more exciting to show failure as a deep emotional impact or as some sort of trauma to get over. Not just another lame all-or-nothing last straw that comes out of nowhere :/

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I actually felt the same towards Ritsuko in the first one.  I already didn't like her initially, then she forms RK, leaving all our other idols behind in the dust which really upset me.(just imagining how jealous the others all must've been, especially when they were watching their Smoky Thrill debut while trying to be happy for their fellow idols, was painful)  Though it did give them a goal to strive for and made their journey more endearing, it still took me a long time to get over it and to actually start liking Ritsuko.  Prolly gonna be the same with Mio as well.  Eh, blame the anime lol.

Ritsuko defense mode ACTIVATE!!! While I can see where you're coming from, I feel like that wasn't the intention with Ritsuko at all. It's been awhile but I had the impression that Ritsuko was always supposed to be focused on a single group whereas the Producer was going to be in charge of all the idols individually. Ritsuko was never supposed to be producing ALL of them, and even if it started out that way, she ended up going a different path and Producer was hired to replace her. Besides, it seems weird that a 19 year old would be in charge of the entire 13 idols. But that might just be me.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #421 on: June 23, 2015, 10:10:01 pm »
The way I read it, producing a small group like RK was Ritsuko's dream? Correct me if I'm wrong, but she always wanted to produce a few girls, not all of them.

I do agree with the series needing broader forms of drama than "*messes up and doubts self* i am quit idol :(". Episode 13 and Minami's collapse felt very natural and not forced to me, especially since it was foreshadowed but also surprising. I hope the drama in the second season is more the latter than the former.

Wake Up Girls did a TON of things wrong, but it had drama like corrupt entertainment bigwigs and gross fans, monetary issues, family problems, injuries, and scandals/trolls and hateblogs on the Internet, so it wasn't picking from the same pool over and over again. the problem is when you cram all of that into a 13 episode anime.......
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #422 on: June 23, 2015, 10:50:56 pm »
The way I read it, producing a small group like RK was Ritsuko's dream? Correct me if I'm wrong, but she always wanted to produce a few girls, not all of them.

Just to prove how good the new producer is (in other words, how good we are ;D )

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #423 on: June 23, 2015, 11:54:21 pm »
Aye, I agree with what you all said regarding Ritsuko.  I was merely expressing how I felt when I first watched the anime, not knowing anything about the franchise back then.  But having rewatched the series a few times, I know now that's not the case.


I do agree with the series needing broader forms of drama than "*messes up and doubts self* i am quit idol :(". Episode 13 and Minami's collapse felt very natural and not forced to me, especially since it was foreshadowed but also surprising. I hope the drama in the second season is more the latter than the former.

Hmmm...Since the CG anime seems to be following the same pattern as the original so far, I wonder if that means Rin and Uzuki will receive the same kind of character development as Chihaya and Haruka?  Oh man, I don't think I'll be able to handle seeing Uzuki's tears.  Please gawd no.  :(




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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #424 on: June 24, 2015, 12:05:33 am »
Oh man, I don't think I'll be able to handle seeing Uzuki's tears.

I will cry so hard if this happens. ;_____;

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #425 on: June 24, 2015, 08:22:17 am »
Hmmm...Since the CG anime seems to be following the same pattern as the original so far, I wonder if that means Rin and Uzuki will receive the same kind of character development as Chihaya and Haruka?  Oh man, I don't think I'll be able to handle seeing Uzuki's tears.  Please gawd no.  :(

I'd say they won't.

Although Rin was categorized as blue along with Chihaya, I don't think she's gonna receive similar plot since she's particularly cheerful, only with a introvert personality compare to Mio and Uzuki. Further more, not like Chihaya who lives alone due to her family problem, Rin is living with her parents and they even own a flower shop.

But there's one thing bothering me... Mika said she's a 'outsider' when Mio and Rin returned to the agency, why'd she say such a word? Does it have something to do with producer or the girls of Cinderella Project?

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #426 on: June 24, 2015, 05:03:08 pm »
I'd say they won't.

Although Rin was categorized as blue along with Chihaya, I don't think she's gonna receive similar plot since she's particularly cheerful, only with a introvert personality compare to Mio and Uzuki. Further more, not like Chihaya who lives alone due to her family problem, Rin is living with her parents and they even own a flower shop.

But there's one thing bothering me... Mika said she's a 'outsider' when Mio and Rin returned to the agency, why'd she say such a word? Does it have something to do with producer or the girls of Cinderella Project?

Oh, by "same kind" I didn't mean like plotwise, but more like weight or importance.

I wondered about that too.  I believe there was a discussion on this some pages back.  It was speculated that there's some internal rivalry going on in 346 pro, since it is a big agency after all, and perhaps Mika(and maybe some of the others as well) used to be one of the idols P-san lost to another(currently unveiled) rivaling producer hence the reason why he now puts up a passive, apathetic front towards the girls.  This might be the case, it makes sense at least.
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #427 on: June 24, 2015, 05:08:00 pm »
Now I get it... yeah, as they're both in the main trio position, she's as same as Chi-chan.

But don't tell me that woman appeared in the ending of ep. 13 is also a member of Mishiro Production :o it'd be terrible.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #428 on: June 24, 2015, 05:12:26 pm »
But don't tell me that woman appeared in the ending of ep. 13 is also a member of Mishiro Production :o it'd be terrible.

one of the idols P-san lost to another(currently unveiled) rivaling producer
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #429 on: June 24, 2015, 05:35:58 pm »
That's exactly what I meant :o and I don't wanna see it happens.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #430 on: June 24, 2015, 11:08:57 pm »
I hope they do something more with Uzuki (not just Uzuki bias talking, I swear). I thought it was refreshing that she wasn't automatically the leader for everything simply because she's the main girl, but right now, I feel like she has like an Azusa-level involvement in the plot.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #431 on: June 25, 2015, 12:51:32 pm »
We shall see, 717 is pretty close now.

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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #432 on: June 25, 2015, 09:50:59 pm »

Oh hey, A-1 actually bothers to fix things.

And also,





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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #433 on: June 25, 2015, 10:12:47 pm »

Oh hey, A-1 actually bothers to fix things.

Whew, much better!(even if Uzuki still looks a little off)

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And also,

I'll have what Love Laika is having!

The price seems kinda steep for the portions given, especially in Kanako's dessert... About $5.00+ for 2 little cookies, a strawberry, a tiny piece of cake and is that a brownie in the corner?  That cake/cookies better be worth it lol.  ???

I'd still try 'em I guess.(I want that Uzuki pin!(or is that a coaster?) XD)
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Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
« Reply #434 on: June 26, 2015, 02:04:13 am »
That P-Kun cappuccino, lmfao