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altuixde:
I prefer Crilley's drawing style to Hart's. For example, in this first exercise from Manga for the Beginner, the finished drawing looks like Hart has gilded the lily: the second to last step actually looks more appealing to me. When I was doing this exercise I left out a lot of detail from the last step. Also, Crilley provides more in-between steps in each exercise than Hart. Oh, and their writing styles are comparable. However, Manga for the Beginner goes on to teach how to draw characters in original poses, something absent from Mastering Manga, which is why I bought Hart's book.

altuixde:
Here's a drawing of Hatsune Miku that I messed up pretty badly:

I'm pretty sure that I shouldn't have made her pupils solid black, but what else did I do wrong? Is there anything I can do to save it? Would making other lines bolder help to reduce the contrast of the eyes with the rest of the drawing? Also, I could take some lines out digitally, like the line starting at her chin that moves up below her left eye (it's supposed to indicate a shadow).

Here's the pencil drawing, which looks nicer:

As you can see I used reference points galore in order to draw this.

Here's the image that I was copying:

At this moment in the video Miku's smile (her entire face, not just the mouth) is contagious. I couldn't quite replicate it, not even in the pencil drawing.

Some final thoughts: If you're going to ink your drawing, don't follow your pencil drawing too closely, because what looks good in pencil may not necessarily look good with dark ink over it. Also, inking in a sketchbook is starting to seem like a bad idea because there's no place to rest my wrist when working close to the edge of the sketchbook. I've gotta start ripping the paper out of the sketchbook first, and I need to get a desk.

animagic4u:
Making good progress. I think the overall form is strong and your vision comes through.
In my opinion, though, her left eye looks a little off because the reflection seems to be slightly missplaced. If you look at your reference image, it is actually touching the top of her eyelid.
Also, her clothes and details look really...well, plain. To me, they look flat. The addition of the frills on her armband (sleeve?) and dress and making the straps 'thicker' (hollow) I think will give the image more overall spice!

MetalPredat0r:
Like animagic said, the clothes look a bit too plain. The head area in general is brimming with detail, so much so that the outfit and torso feel lacking in comparison. Perhaps a few frills and some detail on her torso can help with this issue. Other than that, good job.

I do agree that somethings just look better with pencils. Though shadows can go either or when it comes to pencils or ink. I used to shadow using the pen itself, making my stuff look closer to Superhero Comic Books, but I stopped doing that when I discovered that that drains your ink MUCH faster as a result. Also, I need a desk too, but my room is small as is, so I'll have to settle with a folder and my knees. *sighs*

altuixde:
Thanks, you two.

About the frills, I left them out because I don't have the skill to draw them. I need to study how to draw clothing. :)

animagic - are you referring to her left eye or the eye on our left? I wanted to draw the reflection in her right eye a little bit lower because the pupil in her left eye is partially hidden by her eyelid, so I thought the reflection in her left eye should be slightly higher. However, now that I think about it, the pupils in both of her eyes may be partially hidden by her eyelids.

Arturo - I agree that drawings need to be balanced in detail, but what detail can I add to her torso? Aside from the frills, she's wearing a very simple dress... but I suppose I could add stuff that isn't in the reference image.

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