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[Okayu]

On the other hand, if people are dissing it because it's a bad mecha show or because their personalities are totally off, that I can understand.

This is the reason I took so long to watch xeno. It's really only imas in name. Chihaya always seems to get the most changes in adaptations.

[Cael K.]

In regards to voicing, surely you're meant to take that in jest. To that end I've also not condemned whoever came as replacements. In fairness, though, I can't see change in 2nd Vision as well as you could. It's been ingrained that much as I feel the seiyuu's reflect their characters to far more than a voicing degree.

Yeah, I know, that wasn't really a snipe at ya. It's just I hear people say they don't like it because it's not an idol show, or that people don't like that the voice actors are different... but things just kinda stop there a lot of the time.

I can get it if they can't accept the idols as the ones they've known before, and that's alright. If the voice actor is so part of the character that they can't do without each other... well, I disagree a little but eh... I can get it. If the show is just horrible as a mecha show or if they don't really like that genre, that's cool. But when people just complain about the window dressing, man...

Sorry, I'm kinda venting a bit. Maybe I just made all this stuff up in my head.

[MetalPredat0r]

Ho boy, where do I begin?

This show is the most divisive I have ever been with this franchise. I've given it so much consideration, thought, and I even gave it two chances, but for some reason, I just can't sit down and watch it. Like, I cannot watch this beyond nine episodes. I mean, I don't hate it. Not at all. In fact, I'm gonna say that I rank BRE@K and The Movie MUCH lower than Xeno, which I think are the most rock bottom this entire franchise is ever gonna hit.

Like, I dunno. Maybe it's the fact that everyone is just so...........different. My first exposure to the franchise was anim@s and, whether you love it or hate it, gave me a grasp of the franchise as a whole. That might explain why I was so distant from Xeno for a while due to not watching it first, or it could be for the fact that I'm not a huge mecha guy to begin with. I cannot recommend this show as anybody's first exposure to iM@S.

I will give it some positives. The music is pretty good (the ED being my favorite), the animation is top-notch for the most part, Yayoi gets the best parts, and this show actually made Haruka a bit more of a likable character for me, where official material places her among the characters I honestly don't care much for, not dislike, just.......don't care.

MAYBE I can give this show one more chance, but not anytime soon. I already have Cinderella Girls eating up all of my attention. However, I do respect anybody who is a fan of this show. You guys see something that I clearly don't and, ya know what, more power to you. I'm not going to judge you on liking this. Go ahead and enjoy, but it's just......not for me.

[Okayu]

Yeah, I know, that wasn't really a snipe at ya. It's just I hear people say they don't like it because it's not an idol show, or that people don't like that the voice actors are different... but things just kinda stop there a lot of the time.

I can get it if they can't accept the idols as the ones they've known before, and that's alright. If the voice actor is so part of the character that they can't do without each other... well, I disagree a little but eh... I can get it. If the show is just horrible as a mecha show or if they don't really like that genre, that's cool. But when people just complain about the window dressing, man...

I would have liked it more if was the idols' personalities in a mecha show. That could be interesting. But from what I heard they just took another anime and gave it an imas skin. I don't mind the VAs too much. They're not the idols to me, but for just that anime it's okay. Also the OP is really catchy.

[Maka]

I would have liked it more if was the idols' personalities in a mecha show. That could be interesting. But from what I heard they just took another anime and gave it an imas skin. I don't mind the VAs too much. They're not the idols to me, but for just that anime it's okay. Also the OP is really catchy.

That's what I really would have liked to see. Most series have a sci-fi au within the fandom, but very few have their own canon mecha AU and it would have been... in a word...  amazing. But it's just kind of... its own separate thing, and not even in the way Cinderella Girls is. I watched the first ep and liked it, even though it was a little jarring to see the characters look and behave so differently.

Talking about this makes me want a spinoff focusing on that yakuza movie or Nemurihime. plz namco i will give you all my money

[Amazing_Grace]

Here's the way I see it:

Xenoglossia is a great show. Its characters get lots of development, they're mostly enjoyable, the mechas themselves are well-designed (but I'm just easily impressed because I can't draw mechas to save my life), the fights are well-animated, the music is AMAZING, and it's overall very enjoyable to watch.

BUT.

As an iDOLM@STER spin-off, it is NOT a good show. The girls' personalities are butchered to the point of no return, a lot of character designs are changed, some girls changed ages, Chihaya and Azusa are RELATED, they introduce brand-new characters instead of including Miki (which I kinda get considering Miki actually was not meant to be part of the original cast)...and overall, it just completely butchers the iM@S name.

So the bottom line is this:
If it hadn't been connected to iDOLM@STER, and had just made entirely new characters, it would have been a fantastic mecha anime. But the fact that it uses the iDOLM@STER name makes fans want to stay away from it, because the girls they're used to don't EXIST. You can't go into it expecting to see the iM@S you know. You have to view it as something totally unrelated, but a lot of people can't do that because they're so attached to the original girls.
That's how I enjoyed it. I was able to stop considering it iDOLM@STER at all and just saw it like a totally separate thing, but most fans just can't do that.

[MetalPredat0r]

Here's the way I see it:

Xenoglossia is a great show. Its characters get lots of development, they're mostly enjoyable, the mechas themselves are well-designed (but I'm just easily impressed because I can't draw mechas to save my life), the fights are well-animated, the music is AMAZING, and it's overall very enjoyable to watch.

BUT.

As an iDOLM@STER spin-off, it is NOT a good show. The girls' personalities are butchered to the point of no return, a lot of character designs are changed, some girls changed ages, Chihaya and Azusa are RELATED, they introduce brand-new characters instead of including Miki (which I kinda get considering Miki actually was not meant to be part of the original cast)...and overall, it just completely butchers the iM@S name.

So the bottom line is this:
If it hadn't been connected to iDOLM@STER, and had just made entirely new characters, it would have been a fantastic mecha anime. But the fact that it uses the iDOLM@STER name makes fans want to stay away from it, because the girls they're used to don't EXIST. You can't go into it expecting to see the iM@S you know. You have to view it as something totally unrelated, but a lot of people can't do that because they're so attached to the original girls.
That's how I enjoyed it. I was able to stop considering it iDOLM@STER at all and just saw it like a totally separate thing, but most fans just can't do that.

I think this pretty much nails it on my thoughts and perhaps the biggest reason as to why I can't enjoy this show for what it is

If Xenoglossia was it's own show with original characters and everything, it would probably have a much higher overall opinion as a good or even great mecha anime. The biggest issue is that it shares the name of a popular multimedia franchise that, in the end, it has NOTHING to do with. It felt more like a strange fanfic gone wrong than a good mecha anime in it's own right because of this. It's kinda like Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts. People look at it as a good or decent game as something standalone, but when put as part of its series, it's trashed.

Btw, Miki had absolutely no way of making it because she didn't even exist when Xeno aired, to my knowledge.

[Amazing_Grace]

Btw, Miki had absolutely no way of making it because she didn't even exist when Xeno aired, to my knowledge.

She existed, to my knowledge. Miki was part of the arcade version of the games, wasn't she? I know she was in the games before she defected to Project Fairy. But I heard she wasn't intended to be released as part of the original cast, which is probably why they ended up excluding her from Xenoglossia.

[Maka]

Miki was never in arcadem@s, Takane and Hibiki were in a super early prototype but other than that nah.

[Amazing_Grace]

Right, OK. I kinda thought she wasn't, but I thought she was at the same time.

When was she introduced to the games? It was before Takane and Hibiki. Xenoglossia was made in 2007, so maybe she wasn't around when it was made.

[MetalPredat0r]

Right, OK. I kinda thought she wasn't, but I thought she was at the same time.

When was she introduced to the games? It was before Takane and Hibiki. Xenoglossia was made in 2007, so maybe she wasn't around when it was made.

Miki was introduced when the first game was ported to the Xbox 360 as a console-exclusive feature. The port was released in January of 2007 while Xenoglossia aired April of that same year. I'd like to think that the anime staff only had the arcade version to work with, hence Miki's exclusion.

[Amazing_Grace]

Miki was introduced when the first game was ported to the Xbox 360 as a console-exclusive feature. The port was released in January of 2007 while Xenoglossia aired April of that same year. I'd like to think that the anime staff only had the arcade version to work with, hence Miki's exclusion.

Aaah, alright. That explains it.

[JNiles]

I recall a fancomic that had Miki stewing in the corner over her exclusion from the anime.

[Amazing_Grace]

I recall a fancomic that had Miki stewing in the corner over her exclusion from the anime.

Here you go.








The blog it's on has since been deleted off the internet, but thankfully I saved all the pictures myself before that happened.

[liza94]

Yes, it's really Imber dancing "GO MY WAY!!":

http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm25948512

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