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Pre-release thread: THE iDOLM@STER: Platinum Stars
Naryoril:
--- Quote from: mariokirby on February 03, 2016, 08:42:12 pm ---Breast aside, even normal touching can be a problem as the Producer is sort of portrayed as a grown man and touching underage girls can be an issue just by itself if this was a rated T game.
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No offence, but i think the biggest problem in this regard is north america, they imo have really strange priorities. Killing people is no problem at all, but god forbid you can see a little bit of skin, or patting a girl on the head...
Edit: typo fix
MetalPredat0r:
--- Quote from: Naryoril on February 04, 2016, 09:04:37 am ---i
O offence, but i think the biggest problem in this regard is north america, they imo have really strange priorities. Killing people is no problem at all, but god forbid you can see a little bit of skin, or patting a girl on the head...
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I'm on different fences about that. On one hand, we have done some weird censorship things in games, yet other countries have been just as guilty in the past. MK2 on SNES made the blood green and the whole game went grayscale during fatalities in the Japanese version. On the other hand, censorship methods depend on the company. I go to the patting heads example because that's not a custom of all of North America, it's just Nintendo of America's odd censorship methods. It shouldn't represent how the whole country censors content and I find it silly that it is becoming that way recently.
Naryoril:
Ofc other countries have done stupid censorship as well. Germany is a prime example, they even replaced all the human like enemies in Turok with robots in Germany...
And actually i wasn't talking about some specific censorship case, or even just games, it's a general observation which i then exaggerated to make the point more clear.
The patting on the head is a reference to the im@s touching scenes. mariokirby wrote that the touching scenes can be an issue by itself, but most of the time it actually is patting the idols' head, bumping fists and stuff like that. That something like that even is considered to be a potential problem shows that people imo are oversensitive towards such things (even though they often are completely harmless with no ill intent at all) in north america, especially compared to the relatively free depiction of violence (which never is completely harmless).
mariokirby:
--- Quote from: Naryoril on February 04, 2016, 02:50:46 pm ---The patting on the head is a reference to the im@s touching scenes. mariokirby wrote that the touching scenes can be an issue by itself, but most of the time it actually is patting the idols' head, bumping fists and stuff like that.
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Giving something like a high-five is no problem. What I was referring to is touching other places that become an issue (especially with an underage girl) besides chest touching such as face touching, chin stroking, hair stroking, leg/thigh touching, etc if we're giving this a T rating. Even if the intention is different.
I don't know how bad head patting is, but if hypothetically it's not bad, but then the problem is that you could touch another body part and still get another response.
Remember, the Producer represents you. You are the one doing the touching/stroking not someone else. With all the hot topics going on in the gaming industry, things have become a little stricter. What's more tolerant in Japan is not that tolerant in the US.
Of course, the reverse is true. Violence is more tolerable in the US than in Japan. An example would be Metal Gear Rising. In the JP version, the game was censored to have white blood while the US version kept the blood red.
So, different countries have varying degrees of tolerances, and it's something you can't really change.
--- Quote from: Setsuna on November 25, 2015, 08:07:34 pm ---Tolerance for Violence: Europe has the least tolerance, then Japan, then Australia, then the US
Tolerance for sexual themes: the US is the least tolerant, then Australia, then Europe, then Japan
Tolerance for drug use: Australia is the most restrictive, then Japan, Europe and then the US.
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MetalPredat0r:
It's all really based on the country's standards.
Like what mariokirby said, the Japanese have very low tolerance with violence whereas North America has lower tolerance with intimacy. It's just how we all are.
Me personally, I don't like talking about censorship anymore. I used to discuss it as a form of trivia but given that now people tend to complain and become sensitive and offended over a lot of things, it just took out my interest. This is coming from a pretty sensitive guy.
Also, I feel like we're getting slightly off-topic what with the discussion becoming purely about censorship.
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