THE iDOLM@STER > THE iDOLM@STER Platinum Stars
Pre-release thread: THE iDOLM@STER: Platinum Stars
mariokirby:
--- Quote from: Okayu on February 03, 2016, 03:28:34 pm ---There's been issues of western backlash to certain titles and censorship lately and it might be considered too risky. They wouldn't want bad PR about pai touching after all.
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Pretty much this.
It maybe possible (though less likely) for English subtitles to appear in the Asian version since there are a few games like that. But, a western release is pretty much out of the question due to censorship and niche market.
Remember, the genre of the main game is an idol raising simulator. You are a producer (likely a grown man) who "raises" underage girls to become top idols. There is a lot of red flags here.
The Shiny Festa iOS was censored (ex. certain outfits like bathing suits were removed), and that was a strict rhythm game. So, you could imagine how much more censoring they will do for a main game title. For example, some things that might be censored are costumes (like bikinis/bathing suits), touch scenes (you can even touch their breasts which at few times makes a perfect communication), certain dialogue, etc.
All that stuff that could potentially be censored was there since im@s 1, so for them to take that away just for western release is totally unacceptable to me. Especially, since this is a franchise I'm passionate about. I don't want any changes due to cultural differences. I want to play the game the same way as the JP im@s fan played it.
I know, there are a few niche JP games that got release to the west. I would argue some of those are more mainstream genre like fighters or RPGs. Also, some games that get western release like PS4 Senran Kagura are rated M. So, im@s doesn't fit in those examples.
Plus, Namco is a big company. They have a reputation in the West for making mainstream games like Tekken, Soul Calibur, Tales series, etc. They likely don't want to risk negative publicity by releasing im@s in the West. Other companies don't have this problem since they're so small, and their entire business is built on localizing niche games. So, they don't give a care what anyone says to them.
Also, I think some people misunderstand the genre the main titles are categorize. This is not mainstream genre like fighting games, action, or RPGs. As I mentioned before, this is an idol raising simulator, so it's a niche market.
Yes, there's a rhythm mechanic, but that's a small part of the main game. The big part is raising idols via management and establishing relationships with them. Plus, spending hundreds of dollars of DLC to obtain costumes, accessories, songs/dances, and story. So, basically a niche market.
Virgofall:
--- Quote from: Okayu on February 03, 2016, 03:28:34 pm ---I'm not so sure if they'll do English this time. Asia is one thing, but the west is another. Korea has translations of mobage, but that doesn't mean we have an English version.
There's been issues of western backlash to certain titles and censorship lately and it might be considered too risky. They wouldn't want bad PR about pai touching after all.
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Well, nobody said it had to be officially localized for Western countries either and I honestly don't want to see it happen; some Asian versions of games have had English subtitles, the SAO games being one of them. Quality of the subtitles themselves might be in question, but it's still a step or two above no translation at all.
Edit: They could release iM@S as a mature-or-equivalent, but the sheer existence of Yayoi and the Futamis... (Iori has a childlike body but you might be able to pass her as older via personality, can't do that with Yayoi/Futami)... ultimately, though, I don't think I'd want to see it come over officially after Shiny Festa and knowing how much backlash has occured with things like Fire Emblem. And Fire Emblem is a Nintendo flagship. The amount of censorship iM@S would undergo would change the game considerably on a gameplay level, whether or not you support or don't support the subject matter itself, and that is a huge red flag for me no matter what.
mariokirby:
--- Quote from: Virgofall on February 03, 2016, 06:44:47 pm ---ultimately, though, I don't think I'd want to see it come over officially after Shiny Festa and knowing how much backlash has occured with things like Fire Emblem. And Fire Emblem is a Nintendo flagship. The amount of censorship iM@S would undergo would change the game considerably on a gameplay level, whether or not you support or don't support the subject matter itself, and that is a huge red flag for me no matter what.
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I pretty much feel the same way too.
Naryoril:
i don't think the censorship thing would be as drastic as you think. Yes, bikinis and bath suits would probably be removed, but i can live with that.
And about the touch scenes: actually touching their breasts is always considered the wrong answer and will be reprimanded by the girls. The few instances where it is the right answer, it isn't so much as touching their breasts, but pointing at their heart. But even so, the could just make touching the chest area not register, as if you were touching the space left or right of their head.
Maka:
The thing with FE is that the touching thing was pretty creepy in he first place. Plus many of the people you can rub are semi-related to you... I know the touching even being included was chided by hardcore FE fans as being something way too creepy and fanservicey to put in a traditionally serious SRPG. The rubbing generated a ton of controversy in the US before it was even released stateside because Fire Emblem is a popular, influential title. Idolmaster isn't.
im one of the rare people who was glad it was taken out lol. kissing and rubbing my siblings? I'd... Rather not.
If Senran Kagura can make it over idolmaster can with little to no cuts. And even if some outfits are cut I'm fine with that.
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