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So, I have idolmaster 2,an iphone,and small knowledge on Hiragana

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Heattokun:
As the topic says,I have:
Idolmaster on my PS3
An iPhone(more on this later)
and a knowledge on most of the hiragana(i know whats what,but sometimes i derp out on it since my hand writing is pure and total crap when it comes to memory..unless its something purely trivial. like megaman or the Hex values for the Sonic the Fighters player characters for some godawful reason). Katakana on the way
So, heres my two questions:
Lets say I have a dictionary so,if i dont know a word I can look it up. Exactly how many characters will I have to absorb before I can actually understand the game? (Im pretty good at the sentance structure stuff already)
And second: To anyone who has a knowledge of japanese - and preferably an iProduct, is there any Japanese to English dictionary apps?

chikorita157:
I have been studying Japanese for almost a year and I think you need more than just Elementary Japanese. I say to have a basic understanding, one should at least finish Intermediate or even Advanced Level Japanese.

Also, you can't really understand what they saying just by looking up the words as the sentence structure is completely different from English. This is because Japanese uses a Subject-Object-Verb sentence structure. For example...

アリスさんはりんごを食べた。
(Alice ate an apple.)

Also, the text is automatic, so you have to pause the Game. Still, to better enjoy the game, one should at least have some formal lessons or self-study from lessons.

As for the dictionary, I use Kotoba (which is under a different name now). But, if you are interested in learning the language, Genki I and II is  good text books to learn from... Just be aware that a mix of short forms and polite forums are used in the game.

Heattokun:
Let me break down the quote and replys into some several parts

--- Quote from: chikorita157 on September 12, 2012, 03:47:03 pm ---I have been studying Japanese for almost a year and I think you need more than just Elementary Japanese. I say to have a basic understanding, one should at least finish Intermediate or even Advanced Level Japanese.

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Let me rephrase that: I have a basic understanding,but right now on the level of Stupid VS Grand Master,my current level of the japanese language is ばか がい(insert ji here,don't know the character for it)ん

--- Quote from: chikorita157 on September 12, 2012, 03:47:03 pm ---Also, you can't really understand what they saying just by looking up the words as the sentence structure is completely different from English. This is because Japanese uses a Subject-Object-Verb sentence structure. For example...

アリスさんはりんごを食べた。
(Alice ate an apple.)

--- End quote ---
Already know this. I know the subject, topic, object, location, and i think one other pointer somewhere(possesive iirc).

--- Quote from: chikorita157 on September 12, 2012, 03:47:03 pm ---Also, the text is automatic, so you have to pause the Game.
--- End quote ---
I know this one,as i used to play SP.

--- Quote from: chikorita157 on September 12, 2012, 03:47:03 pm --- Still, to better enjoy the game, one should at least have some formal lessons or self-study from lessons.
--- End quote ---
Agreed.

--- Quote from: chikorita157 on September 12, 2012, 03:47:03 pm ---As for the dictionary, I use Kotoba (which is under a different name now). But, if you are interested in learning the language, Genki I and II is  good text books to learn from... Just be aware that a mix of short forms and polite forums are used in the game.

--- End quote ---
Hmm,I was hoping for a more app-friendly "type in japanese word->get meaning" sort of thing but I suppose this works too. Just saying app friendly cause,well..you know
I'm running low on cash since I imported the game and my iPhone is jailbroken fancy

chikorita157:

--- Quote ---Hmm,I was hoping for a more app-friendly "type in japanese word->get meaning" sort of thing but I suppose this works too. Just saying app friendly cause,well..you know
--- End quote ---

Of course there is no easy way since Japanese uses Kanji. Unless you know the On/Kun readings for each character, you would have to resort to radicals. The good thing is that Chinese characters are built off from simpler characters. For instance, 刀 (knife) and 八 makes 分 (means divide, minute). Once you get the character, just type in the conjugation (if any) and you should get the definition.

animagic4u:
I think you'll learn some kanji and some basic expressions with idolm@ster (Through personal experience I've learned many kanji and expressions from it) but let me warn you that playing a game by line by line translation is completely miserable.
If you want to fully bring yourself into the story of the game and have complete knowledge you're going to just have to learn Japanese. (Trust me, a little goes a far way, I've only just started learning and I understand so many things in im@s already).

However I don't think it's necessary at all to know Japanese to play im@s 2. Please enjoy the game either way.

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