Is anyone else scared of people finding out about your liking IM@S?

[TTB]

Well, it's one reason why I get worried of people walking in the door. One of the others includes the fact I worry if anyone walks in during a freelance commission is the fact I can go to jail for exposing people to the material I've been commissioned to write a report on.

Then again, I don't think I've told many people what I DO as a sideline either, and I'm fairly sure that if anyone ever walked in while I work, I'd probably be seen as one of the sickest (insert string of explicitives here) individuals on the planet, who somehow can actually claim it they watch it for work.

But on a serious note, I'm more or less harmless apart from that. (And possibly if I ever go rogue, get other people arrested by putting illegal material on their computers, but that's a professional archive thing I have to maintain.)

Wait a second, if this stuff is so sick and horrible, why do the police need a specialist to give it classification? Can't they themselves just add "violent beastiality" or "snuff film" or "actual gangrape film" themselves? You're writing a report? I think I've seen one of these text reports before as a court document pdf that was being shared around on 4chan for its shock value, it spells out in detail the various acts and gestures that occur in the scenes, is that the kinds of reports you mean?

As for Australians being prudes, I don't know about that, but some of the censorship laws that have been signed into place by legislators in Australia really do seem strange... like that law about no more A-cup porn permitted to be filmed? It's not difficult to kind of see the angle they were going for with that... but it doesn't seem like an effective measure to take. Seems more like grand-standing and appealing to constitutients' fears for political gain, amirite?

[Cael K.]

True story from an... FBI agent (I think), cybercrime division I heard one day.

FBI: "OPEN UP, FBI!"
From inside the house: *ker-chack* *shotgun blast*
Occupant: "Come on in!"

Back on topic, I really don't take steps to announce to the world my Idolm@ster fandom... otaku are wide and varied, and I accept that most people I meet aren't really going to be into the same stuff I am. In fact, I only know two people that would have any idea what to get me for a present.

I think my family knows that I really like video games and anime, and they're cool with it. I don't know what they'd think if they saw me playing Im@s, if they liked it that'd be cool. If not, meh.

[AweOfShe]

Holy crap... you must be a girl right? If not... where the heck do you live!? o.0

Nah, I'm a guy, and I live in Canada, lol.

My dad saw me playing some Im@s 1 and LFY back in '08, and all he ever asked me was what the girls were saying. Then in March or April of '11, when he saw me play it again, all he said was, "You're playing this again?". Then the Portstation version comes out on October, and the only comment he made about that was, "I thought you had this already". That's the only comments I ever heard from my dad (or from anyone in my family for that matter) about the games.

I played Im@s Dearly Stars and SP plenty of times on the bus, and at work. Either no one notices what I play, or they just don't care to comment on it. XD

I don't think anyone has noticed me playing the G4Us so far either, but I imagine no one would care. I only really played it in front of my best friend, but that was 'cause when he was over, he wanted pictures of the twins.

Also, my nieces love S4U. 

[SakuraMaxX]

Oh god just remembered my worst incident involving iM@S.

I was playing iM@S Perfect Sun during lunch break at school, and I was just talking to my friends going "Damn I really can't understand Japanese." Some random girl at my table was like "Oh! I can!" and proceeds to look to see if she could help translate.  She looks for a second and suddenly yells "OH GOD HE'S PLAYING ONE OF THOSE GAMES WHERE YOU RAPE GIRLS" and I'm just sitting there dumbfounded while some people at surrounding tables stare at me for a moment.  There's a good reason why I don't like playing games in public.

[AweOfShe]

God damn, LOL. I guess I should consider myself lucky.

[satty]

Oh god just remembered my worst incident involving iM@S.

I was playing iM@S Perfect Sun during lunch break at school, and I was just talking to my friends going "Damn I really can't understand Japanese." Some random girl at my table was like "Oh! I can!" and proceeds to look to see if she could help translate.  She looks for a second and suddenly yells "OH GOD HE'S PLAYING ONE OF THOSE GAMES WHERE YOU RAPE GIRLS" and I'm just sitting there dumbfounded while some people at surrounding tables stare at me for a moment.  There's a good reason why I don't like playing games in public.

That's kinda messed up, actually.

Yeah that's the thing though... I know intelligent productive helpful people who would want anyone they caught playing something that looked like pic 2 or 3 to publically register as a molester or something...

You work for the government? o.o *imagines James Bond settling down to a game of IM@S after blowing up a military base.

Aha! Your saving grace when the culture censors come online for evaluation!

It seems like a lot of forumers here like the jet aircraft version of the girls? Is that like a reverse Strike Witches/Sky Girls thing or something? I thought moe girls come from objects, do girl characters get assigned to objects too now?

-That's sad, really. But then again, different cultures, different expectations. Still, I would hope that people would just at least try and find out what something is rather than react on knee-jerk thoughts.
-I've heard of soldiers that are into anime. In fact, I remember watching an Im@s 2 stream from a guy who was stationed at Misawa AFB. Also wouldn't be a big stretch if a few Special Forces operators are into anime in general.
-Yep, it's nice to have other things that you're interested at.
-As for the planes, there's another game made by Namco called Ace Combat; since Idolm@ster is also made by Namco (well, Namco Bandai), they put up Idolm@ster themed skins as a way to promote their own products. Which makes it funny to see a USAF Colonel fly a red F-22 with Haruka on it.

[JNiles]

@SakuraMaxX: so which idol were you producing at the time? 


In general, I don't let other people influence my gaming.  I turned into one of those "grownups" a long time ago, so I don't live under someone else's rules.  If my friends criticized my gaming, which they don't, I would just bash their tastes mercilessly.  I do generally game in public, because I don't give a rat's ass if people don't like video games, but there are a few that I leave home, because nosy people can really ruin your day.  No sense in provoking people if you can avoid it.  IM@S is one- also, rhythm games, because I would look like a spaz playing them.

Portables weren't too advanced during my high school days, but I probably would've left mine at home anyway- at school, you are exposing yourself to potential loss, breakage, theft, and confiscation.

I don't discuss gaming with my coworkers- who knows what will set "normal" people off?  Plus, I don't want to know what they like either.  But I have snuck in a few games during some especially horrible conference calls.

As long as we're discussing negative encounters... in 2000 I was driving long distance, and I needed to stop and take a break because I was sleepy.  Whipped out my gameboy and started playing... a little kid sidled up to the car while I was focused on playing.  He said, "Why are you playing games?  Games are for kids."  Fuck you, kid.

[Setsuna]

Wait a second, if this stuff is so sick and horrible, why do the police need a specialist to give it classification? Can't they themselves just add "violent beastiality" or "snuff film" or "actual gangrape film" themselves? You're writing a report? I think I've seen one of these text reports before as a court document pdf that was being shared around on 4chan for its shock value, it spells out in detail the various acts and gestures that occur in the scenes, is that the kinds of reports you mean?

As for Australians being prudes, I don't know about that, but some of the censorship laws that have been signed into place by legislators in Australia really do seem strange... like that law about no more A-cup porn permitted to be filmed? It's not difficult to kind of see the angle they were going for with that... but it doesn't seem like an effective measure to take. Seems more like grand-standing and appealing to constitutients' fears for political gain, amirite?

Standardised reporting. Generally I annotate for a board member (Although occasionally they just get me to sign it) and basically it's mostly a full detail with full technical terms of what the material contains. We're particularly specific, and particularly if a case goes to court, being general isn't enough. You need to basically need to detail it step by step.

It's particularly important because there's a significant amount of material referred to from police which ISN'T illegal, and basically wastes 8 hours. (You have no idea how many reports of a manga go 'There is no case 8 infractions  - participants are voluntary, age indeterminate, cannot be proven under 18, no fetishes restricted by Australian Law.')

The reason this happens is mostly when a police raid happens, and the police want to have extra ammunition. They almost always walk away disappointed, and although I've been asked to bend it a bit, I point out that I'm not going to write anything that I can't defend in court, and they sometimes even get free legal advice from me (Namely 'This isn't going to fly for a judge panel')

It's not even particularly shocking - it's in fact REALLY, REALLY boring to read. Basically, if you want to be turned off sex, violence or any other deviant stuff, try reading an internal classifications report. It'll bore you to tears, because we can make ANYTHING sound boring.

I've been previously asked to attend court as an expert witness (Which is a bit strange for someone without a university degree, but apparently they trust me enough to actually do it properly.) and the like. I don't do it very often, but I can.

Needless to say though, those reports I'm not going to publish.

But yeah, given that, I just sort of shrug it off. Few people know what I do, and even less know that I do im@s on the side. It's kinda refreshing if someone DOES bring it up, because it avoids the usual 'So what else do you do in your spare time?' question, which is the above.

[Scotty]

Nobody cares.

Not my family. Not my friends.

S'all good.

[TTB]

But I have snuck in a few games during some especially horrible conference calls.

Ahaha, the volume switch... I can just imagine some half-asleep conference with people trying desperately not to nod off around a brown table and a boring guy droning out in monotone pointing at a chart.... and all of a sudden from one guy's groin area comes.....
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WATASHI SHINY SMILE!!!

It's particularly important because there's a significant amount of material referred to from police which ISN'T illegal, and basically wastes 8 hours. (You have no idea how many reports of a manga go 'There is no case 8 infractions  - participants are voluntary, age indeterminate, cannot be proven under 18, no fetishes restricted by Australian Law.')

Hmmm, with that A-cup law I'd thought reading any manga with any nudity of any kind would get an Australian drawn and quartered, or at least castrated... physically, not chemically that is.

Still... a fascinating line of work, I can only wonder at how de-sensitizing it might be, like those municipal body collectors in cities with high crime who sometimes make up to a dozen stops per night, I don't think anything could make some of those people cringe in the slightest...

[RoninatorMarx]

My younger brother doesn't mind (but he's hooked to Eri. XD). So does my older one.
Given the amount of time invested in, and variety of anime I've watched, I don't think my parents care.
My RL friends doesn't seem to mind, though he's not curious either.

So yeah. Not really scared. I don't have a reason yet.

[SakuraMaxX]

@SakuraMaxX: so which idol were you producing at the time? 

Of all people she could've said that about, I was producing Makoto...

[Setsuna]

Hmmm, with that A-cup law I'd thought reading any manga with any nudity of any kind would get an Australian drawn and quartered, or at least castrated... physically, not chemically that is.

Still... a fascinating line of work, I can only wonder at how de-sensitizing it might be, like those municipal body collectors in cities with high crime who sometimes make up to a dozen stops per night, I don't think anything could make some of those people cringe in the slightest...

It's not a law. It was a suggested ruling. It was oversensationalised, and believe me, they heard hell from me once I was given a record of the minutes of that meeting in question.

The law states anything that 'appeared to be' under 18 would be deemed illegal.

The classification board tried to (badly in my opinion) give it metrics, since well, they needed a leg to stand on, after a tricky case or two.

I kindly wrote back and pointed out that you'd also discriminate about 1/3 of the world's population who were (for lack of better words) less than filled out.

It proved tricky, but essentially they let me have the point. The real existence of that ruling was an attempt to make it easier to determine the above clause, and as long as I could dance my way around it with my own observations, they let me. (Court precedent has a few advantages, if you're the one who did them.)

Personally I find it a bunch of crap, because you can be thirty, wearing a school dress and be classified as 'seems under 18' for the purposes of the law, and it get ratcheded up as a technical RC. (This comes up surprisingly often in US adult imports.)

Basically two thirds of the classification board's work is with adult material. I normally stay in the other third, but I've been asked quite a few times to work on the other two thirds, usually due to the fact I'm strangely one of the few accessors who aren't attached to a company and will work for hire.

I've decided to stop doing it recently though, mostly due to injury though.

Of all people she could've said that about, I was producing Makoto...

Well, the best part is that when people want to try set you up, they'll want to set you up.

If you want to do a similar lesson, just do the exact reverse when she listens to one of the boy bands, then point out the lyrics. There's a lot of fun in THAT if you listen closely enough, let me tell you...

[chikorita157]

No, not scared at the very least considering that I have watched so many shows with cute girls that it doesn't really matter too much. However, my mom went in the room while I was playing Idolmaster 2 and just asked why I was playing that game... but she never questioned me again.

[TTB]

It's not a law. It was a suggested ruling. It was oversensationalised, and believe me, they heard hell from me once I was given a record of the minutes of that meeting in question.

The law states anything that 'appeared to be' under 18 would be deemed illegal.

The classification board tried to (badly in my opinion) give it metrics, since well, they needed a leg to stand on, after a tricky case or two.

I kindly wrote back and pointed out that you'd also discriminate about 1/3 of the world's population who were (for lack of better words) less than filled out.

It proved tricky, but essentially they let me have the point. The real existence of that ruling was an attempt to make it easier to determine the above clause, and as long as I could dance my way around it with my own observations, they let me. (Court precedent has a few advantages, if you're the one who did them.)

Personally I find it a bunch of crap, because you can be thirty, wearing a school dress and be classified as 'seems under 18' for the purposes of the law, and it get ratcheded up as a technical RC. (This comes up surprisingly often in US adult imports.)

Basically two thirds of the classification board's work is with adult material. I normally stay in the other third, but I've been asked quite a few times to work on the other two thirds, usually due to the fact I'm strangely one of the few accessors who aren't attached to a company and will work for hire.

I've decided to stop doing it recently though, mostly due to injury though.

Well, the best part is that when people want to try set you up, they'll want to set you up.

If you want to do a similar lesson, just do the exact reverse when she listens to one of the boy bands, then point out the lyrics. There's a lot of fun in THAT if you listen closely enough, let me tell you...

Setsuna defended the honor of smaller-bosom'd women everywhere against the Australian legal sytem! Epic! 

No, not scared at the very least considering that I have watched so many shows with cute girls that it doesn't really matter too much. However, my mom went in the room while I was playing Idolmaster 2 and just asked why I was playing that game... but she never questioned me again.

lol what did you say to answer your mom's question?