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TTB:
Well I am dismayed that Iori is not getting the love she deserves  >:( ... but there's no accounting for taste... still, all the girls are quite endearing.

I'm surprised though that the twins rated so low? I thought IM@S fans were supposedly raging lolicons or something? I know much of 2ch hates their IM@S population with a vengeance but...

Anyway, I hope I'm not alone in my view that Iori's IM@S2 hairstyle is just amazing, the proportions of left vs right, the charming asymmtery, and the preserved deference to deko. I could go on but... let's just say it's very aptly named "idol".

Also, is it just me... or is Azusa one of the most marriageable woman ever put to animation/cg?

For what it's worth, here's the number of pics by rank (almost all fan-drawn) of the IM@S girls to gelbooru (along with some others for comparision):

Touhou 405,998
Vocaloid 72,223
Hatsune_Miku 48,162
Hakurei_Reimu 40,043
Idolmaster 25,497 (<- all Idolmaster related pics combined number)

Rankings:
1 Hoshii_Miki 3508
2 Amami_Haruka 3421
3 Kisaragi_Chihaya 3138
4 Takatsuki_Yayoi 3100
5 Minase_Iori 3057
6 Kikuchi_Makoto 3019
7 Miura_Azusa 2316
8 Akitsuki_Ritsuko 2235
9 Hagiwara_Yukiho 1884
10 Shijou_Takane 1667
11 Akitsuki_Ryou 1568
12 Futami_Mami 1534
13 Ganaha_Hibiki 1532
14 Futami_Ami 1469
15 Otonashi_Kotori 1175
16 Mizutani_Eri 616
17 Hidaka_Ai 482
18 Futaba_Anzu 156
19 Shibuya_Rin 133
20 Ozaki_Reiko 109
21 Mimura_Kanako 95
22 Moroboshi_Kirari 82
23 Oikawa_Shizuku 73
24 Tada_Riina 19

Futami_Mami -Futami_Ami = 270
Futami_Ami -Futami_Mami = 220

So Iori is pretty much tied for 3rd with Chihaya, Makoto, and Yayoi - makes a lot more sense  :P


My questions are:

1. I hope I'm not alone in my view that Iori's IM@S2 hairstyle is just amazing, right?

2. Is it just me... or is Azusa one of the most marriageable women ever put to animation cg? And after all isn't that the role/paradigm her character was written into from the beginning?

3. Does anyone know any particular reasons why 2ch dislikes its IM@S posters so much?

4. Ok, so Miki is glamorous and heart-warmingly calls the player "Honey", Chihaya has allure, charisma and devotion, and Yayoi is all-around lovable... but could a Haruka fan please explain to this unenlightened one what the appeal of Haruka is? She seems like a nice enough girl... but nothing really stands out... what wondrous traits does Haruka have that I'm not picking on? Why make her the protagonist of Xenoglossia? She's clearly top-tier, her and Miki stand well above all the others.

5. How is Ryou beating Mami and Ami? Not to take anything away from traps, but this is probably one of the most definitive showings of indifference to the whole loli artstyle/genre ever recorded in a product substantially directed at the otaku market. Is it that the Futami twins are predictable? That they creepily assume the same posture in certain dialogue scenes?

RoninatorMarx:
@TTB:

1) It is, though I feel the asymmetry weighing down on my choice. [/personal opinion]
2) *insert stereotypical otaku=loner image here* + busty hopeless romantic searching for a special someone = satisfaction guaranteed.
3) Never been exactly 'there', so can't help you there.
4) Haruka's quirk? One way of looking at it is that you can argue that it's nothing. And that's exactly her appeal. She's not lacking nor too much of anything, she's normal. Given her personality and how she was portrayed back since the Arcade version,you will see why everyone likes her. *insert Ryu joke here*

Another way is that before Miki, Haruka was, and still is, the targeted main heroine. And like most people, they fall under what I like to call the "Protagonist Syndrome", in which whoever is the protagonist, people will like (since the story's about him/her). Adding to that is her cheerful, girl-next-door personality who'll do what it takes with P (a.k.a. you). (Could also explain the Miki hate, but that takes more space)

5) Ryou's reveal as a trap came as a surprise to many. When he first showed up, people assumed he was a girl along Ai and Eri, until that one PV that boosted his popularity. And because this is something big (aka a first in iMAS), people acted upon it- they made fanart, doujins, etc. Trust me, if he was revealed flat out as a guy in the beginning, his popularity wouldn't be this big.

TTB:
I just realized tiers can be inferred from the Gelbooru data:

Top-tier:
Haruka, Miki

S-tier:
Chihaya, Yayoi, Iori, Makoto

A-tier:
Azusa, Ritsuko, Yukiho

B-tier:
Takane, Ryou, Mami, Ami, Hibiki, Kotori

Ganbatte!-Tier:
Eri, Ai

Neglected-tier:
Anzu, Rin, Reiko, Kanako, Kirari, Shizuku, Riina


--- Quote from: RoninatorMarx on April 16, 2012, 11:14:52 am ---@TTB:

1) It is, though I feel the asymmetry weighing down on my choice. [/personal opinion]
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Blasphemy! Remember that cosmetic surgeon from Bioshock? Asymmetry is the future!


--- Quote ---2) *insert stereotypical otaku=loner image here* + busty hopeless romantic searching for a special someone = satisfaction guaranteed.
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I'm not sure what you mean, everyone is searching for a wonderful girl like Azusa,  whether they are lonely otaku or stylish popular guys, if they are sensible they'll realize that she's an absolute treasure, and really that's one of the things in life that you can't buy and can only pray and hope for, a mate that's so wonderful like that. Some people seem great but then... you know. If anyone has the extraordinary luck of finding someone as wonderful as Azusa it would be wise on their part to cherish her and accomodate her as much as possible. If she likes to laugh, then watch comedy shows and work on your comedy, if she likes guys who can cook then learn to cook, if she loves the ocean then work hard and buy the two of you a boat, etc.


--- Quote ---3) Never been exactly 'there', so can't help you there.
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lol why is there in quotes?


--- Quote ---4) Haruka's quirk? One way of looking at it is that you can argue that it's nothing. And that's exactly her appeal. She's not lacking nor too much of anything, she's normal. Given her personality and how she was portrayed back since the Arcade version,you will see why everyone likes her. *insert Ryu joke here*
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Err....?


--- Quote ---Another way is that before Miki, Haruka was, and still is, the targeted main heroine. And like most people, they fall under what I like to call the "Protagonist Syndrome", in which whoever is the protagonist, people will like (since the story's about him/her). Adding to that is her cheerful, girl-next-door personality who'll do what it takes with P (a.k.a. you). (Could also explain the Miki hate, but that takes more space)
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What!? When did Miki become the protagonist? And I was reading about Haruka yesterday that she might be pretending to be clusmy just to endear the producer... that's kind of off-putting... but I guess it makes sense if she really likes him a lot...


--- Quote ---5) Ryou's reveal as a trap came as a surprise to many. When he first showed up, people assumed he was a girl along Ai and Eri, until that one PV that boosted his popularity. And because this is something big (aka a first in iMAS), people acted upon it- they made fanart, doujins, etc. Trust me, if he was revealed flat out as a guy in the beginning, his popularity wouldn't be this big.
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I don't know... from what I've experienced of otaku markets I think they would be quite receptive (pun intended) to traps... but I think you're right that if he were introduced as a definite manly guy he would've been not as popular. Still, someone has to know why Ami and Mami are so unpopular!

RoninatorMarx:
1) Like I said, personal opinion. Guess it's not everyone's style.
2) To put it simply, anyone wants to find that certain someone. But if you have an idol whose sole reason for being one is to find love, that scores higher on some people, specially 'loners'.
3) I've seen 2ch, but since I'm illiterate in Japanese, I have no idea what they're talking about.
4) a) Ryu Joke: <character>'s so normal, anyone could use him and win, but because he's normal, he's boring. b) Whoever posted that part about faking clumsiness obviously never watched the OVA. c) Miki was marketed as the secondary protagonist when the first 360 game came out.
5) It's just that their appeal was overshadowed by the others'. They're twins just so Namco can fill the twins stereotype into the game (and not everyone likes the basic kind of naughty). Even Namco right now is moving away from the twins thing as well.

TTB:

--- Quote from: RoninatorMarx on April 17, 2012, 10:26:48 am ---b) Whoever posted that part about faking clumsiness obviously never watched the OVA.
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Actually I first read about this on the wiki :3
http://www.project-imas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Haruka_Amami#Trivia


--- Quote ---5) It's just that their appeal was overshadowed by the others'. They're twins just so Namco can fill the twins stereotype into the game (and not everyone likes the basic kind of naughty). Even Namco right now is moving away from the twins thing as well.

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I've thought about it some more and realized that the twins had virtually identical hairstyles in IM@S1. In a world where visually, hairstyle and haircolor are such defining characteristics that must have adversely affected their popularity...

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