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Capturing and Editing on the Mac
Setsuna:
--- Quote from: darkarn on March 11, 2013, 11:39:59 am ---Lol, I am also not in the US so the DMCA does not apply to me (somewhat)... Am I right to say that the capture hardware (I am looking at the BlackMagic Intensity series, since I can order it locally) alone do not have the capability to circumvent HDCP?
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Somewhat? You better be sure it doesn't, because the DCMA has a strangely long reach. People get yanked out from all sorts of places for breaking the rules in regards to copyright related issues.
As Blackmagic are in the United States (And are for sale in the US), they have to comply with the DCMA. They honour all HDCP signals by refusing to copy if present. They do not have a licensed decryption key to send back on the challenge as part of the protocol.
I use the Blackmagic series (Although I have a Decklink card, although that's out of service at the moment due to a RMA and stuff blowing up here) so yes, I have a method that can break it. The device in question is 200 dollars US and change though, which may not be worth the investment if you're only looking at a Blackmagic Intensity Pro. (Which is about 200 dollars US. Go figure.)
There's another way I know that's cheaper (which is the HDMI -> DVI conversion + analog L/R) but there's a significant quality degrading as part of the process. It's not that great but some people get finicky about the loss in quality.
It's a lot cheaper to get component cables for the PS3/Xbox 360 and just record through those. You'll only be able to get 1080i out of a BM Intensity Pro anyway, and getting the pro version gets you component cables as part of the deal.
If you're prepared to drop a thousand or more on recording equipment (Say a Decklink 3D Extreme+ and a supporting SAS or SSD set for 1080p work) then let me know and I can refer you on. Just bear in mind that if in the unlikely chance you get caught for HDCP breaking, no defense will save you apart from 'You have no jurisdiction over me'.
darkarn:
--- Quote from: Setsuna on March 11, 2013, 12:59:16 pm ---Somewhat? You better be sure it doesn't, because the DCMA has a strangely long reach. People get yanked out from all sorts of places for breaking the rules in regards to copyright related issues.
As Blackmagic are in the United States (And are for sale in the US), they have to comply with the DCMA. They honour all HDCP signals by refusing to copy if present. They do not have a licensed decryption key to send back on the challenge as part of the protocol.
I use the Blackmagic series (Although I have a Decklink card, although that's out of service at the moment due to a RMA and stuff blowing up here) so yes, I have a method that can break it. The device in question is 200 dollars US and change though, which may not be worth the investment if you're only looking at a Blackmagic Intensity Pro. (Which is about 200 dollars US. Go figure.)
There's another way I know that's cheaper (which is the HDMI -> DVI conversion + analog L/R) but there's a significant quality degrading as part of the process. It's not that great but some people get finicky about the loss in quality.
It's a lot cheaper to get component cables for the PS3/Xbox 360 and just record through those. You'll only be able to get 1080i out of a BM Intensity Pro anyway, and getting the pro version gets you component cables as part of the deal.
If you're prepared to drop a thousand or more on recording equipment (Say a Decklink 3D Extreme+ and a supporting SAS or SSD set for 1080p work) then let me know and I can refer you on. Just bear in mind that if in the unlikely chance you get caught for HDCP breaking, no defense will save you apart from 'You have no jurisdiction over me'.
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No worries, I am not going to try to go against the DMCA; no point in doing that anyway...
I see, I am more towards the Shuttle (approx SGD259 dollars, hoping it can go a bit lower) as I do only have a Windows laptop with USB 3.0 (and a home PC with USB 2.0 only but I don't really use it since I am in uni most of the time) and my only experience with such hardware so far is a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 for digitalising VHS tapes (on crummy ol' S-Video, of which I am regretting terribly now) so I guess it will be a while before I can go for those uber recording equipment! ;D
Setsuna:
--- Quote from: darkarn on March 11, 2013, 06:45:45 pm ---No worries, I am not going to try to go against the DMCA; no point in doing that anyway...
I see, I am more towards the Shuttle (approx SGD259 dollars, hoping it can go a bit lower) as I do only have a Windows laptop with USB 3.0 (and a home PC with USB 2.0 only but I don't really use it since I am in uni most of the time) and my only experience with such hardware so far is a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 for digitalising VHS tapes (on crummy ol' S-Video, of which I am regretting terribly now) so I guess it will be a while before I can go for those uber recording equipment! ;D
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A warning about the Shuttle - I've used it and it's kinda finicky, to say the least. If you have the option, go with the Thunderbolt instead, since well, the USB3 is a headache to work with at the best of times. It only uses certain USB3.0 setups, so be sure if you DO get a shuttle with USB 3.0, that you can return it if it doesn't work.
I tend to have poor luck with most mobile solutions, mostly because of the fact that they tend to be a fragile. It might be my mileage though.
darkarn:
--- Quote from: Setsuna on March 12, 2013, 04:45:17 am ---A warning about the Shuttle - I've used it and it's kinda finicky, to say the least. If you have the option, go with the Thunderbolt instead, since well, the USB3 is a headache to work with at the best of times. It only uses certain USB3.0 setups, so be sure if you DO get a shuttle with USB 3.0, that you can return it if it doesn't work.
I tend to have poor luck with most mobile solutions, mostly because of the fact that they tend to be a fragile. It might be my mileage though.
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Uh-oh... I don't have a Thunderbolt port :(
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