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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1140 on: August 24, 2012, 01:13:39 am »
Quick question about the cgdex2 entries: When it says "Max" for a stat, how is that determined? What factors are in play here? + version, max affection pre- and post- training, and max level pre- and post-training? Like, absolute max you can get?

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1141 on: August 24, 2012, 03:46:22 am »
The maximum stats are the highest total you can get for that card (Maximum Level, Max Affection, repeat for the merged version).
The easiest way to calculate the maximum for any non-invite style SRs is take the base stats of the unmerged version and multiply by 3.975, if my memory serves me correctly.

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1142 on: August 24, 2012, 04:15:49 am »
Long buried, but still referenced in the top post.

On the other hand, numbers for those interested. Also, when I say base stat, I mean stats at level 1.
Regular versions of idols seem to cap out at around 2.5 times their base stat regardless of how many levels they have, as far as stat gain goes. The Max Heart bonus is 1/8 of their base stat (or 0.125).
Plus versions... if the numbers I've seen are to be believed, Max Level and Max Heart stats are 2.875 times their base stat. Furthermore, their base stats are 1.2 times that of their regular version's base stats. Upgrade bonuses don't count towards this - they're a flat, additive bonus.

So, let's take the New Year's S Rare as an example. Akiha sports a whooping 1660 ATK, and has an equally whooping 59 levels to gain. That puts her (regular version's) max ATK at 4150 (not counting heart bonuses), for a total per level gain (on average) of... 42.2. Kinda abysmal per level, yeah, but stick it out and that's a lot of ATK for 8 Cost. Two observations: (a) since this multiplier is constant regardless of max level or max hearts, it's actually more beneficial to have low maximum levels and low maximum hearts. (b) Some idols grow differently than others - some have constant growth, and I've seen stats gained per level start ludicrously high then taper off at higher level ups. I imagine the last case, where an idol starts gaining stats slowly, but with some rapid late growth, could happen too. Either way, you'll get to around Base Stat * 2.5 in the end.

So... what does this all mean?
Max Stat, regular = Base Stat, regular * 2.625.
Max Stat, insta-Plus = Base Stat, regular * 3.55.
Max Stat, max-Plus = Base Stat, regular * 3.975.


Instantly upgrading your idol and maxing her will give you the insta-Plus stats. Maxing two regular versions and combining them, then maxing the Plus version gets you the max-Plus stats, which is about 12% stronger (a little less than 1/8) than the instant upgrade option.

Though yes, the multipliers are also on the Japanese Wiki. ^^
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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1143 on: August 24, 2012, 01:02:59 pm »
Okay, so that's that, then. Would be nice if there was a base stat listing for unmerged too. Was this stuff just ripped from the JP wiki?

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1144 on: August 25, 2012, 02:05:41 am »
Cael's Im@s Ranking: Azusa, Yumeko, Tomomi, Haruka

How to get stuff from Japan without causing things to explode in a shower of sparks and misery: http://forum.project-imas.com/index.php/topic,1108.0.html

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S(mile)ING! (English version, singable) - http://d.hatena.ne.jp/caelk/20140911/1410422445
Neue Green, Volume 3 - Will start sometime. ^_^;;
Rockin' Girl, Volume 1 (Chapters 1-5) - http://www.mediafire.com/?z00ffkvg5ocg11e

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1145 on: August 25, 2012, 10:05:12 am »
afaik , no fix yet but management acknowledged the problem
so just bear with it for now

Aaah that's good, I was afraid I was the only one with that problem. Funnily enough there's no sign of that issue on the iphone though...

And thanks for the information on how the stat ups work, it clarifies which idols I should 'invest' in.

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1146 on: August 25, 2012, 03:03:08 pm »
Aaah that's good, I was afraid I was the only one with that problem. Funnily enough there's no sign of that issue on the iphone though...
actually wait, there are psuedo-fixes

1st is using dolphin browser and change the user agent to iphone(used to work)
2nd is using your PC browser (also by changing user-agent)

I imagine it isn't very important since we can't really read japanese(unless you can)

http://puu.sh/YFk8 <- using PC set to android
http://puu.sh/YFm4 <-using dolphin browser on android set to iphone
« Last Edit: August 25, 2012, 03:14:40 pm by Fuyuhotaru »

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1147 on: August 27, 2012, 08:08:18 am »
Haruna Kamijo got a Gacha S-Rare, yay Haruna!

http://i.imgur.com/wcHJC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jHmBp.jpg

They look really nice!

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1148 on: August 27, 2012, 12:06:02 pm »
@fuyuhotaru: Read my last post here.

Well, here's the gekijo for this event. New Hina card soon?



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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1149 on: August 27, 2012, 12:15:51 pm »
Well, here's the gekijo for this event. New Hina card soon?

I hope so.
i am still rin fans but by now i like mika much more

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1150 on: August 27, 2012, 01:48:34 pm »
Sure.

Edit: Just note that I didn't do the translations. If you want their names, just say.
ah I see

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1151 on: August 27, 2012, 03:06:10 pm »
Haruna Kamijo got a Gacha S-Rare, yay Haruna!

http://i.imgur.com/wcHJC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jHmBp.jpg

They look really nice!

Why can't I hold all these glasses?

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1152 on: August 27, 2012, 04:28:20 pm »
Hi all, just another quick question; is each account limited to keying in one of each CD codes? To put it another way, can I buy 2 CDs, key those codes in and have 2 of the same SR to merge?

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1153 on: August 27, 2012, 10:28:21 pm »
how do i get the game, i am on the site on my iphone and i have an acount on the site now

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Re: Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
« Reply #1154 on: August 27, 2012, 11:17:58 pm »
nvm i have it now but how do i like evolt the girls then i have the same card twice or right now i have 4 of the same and like change the team