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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #570 on: October 12, 2011, 09:19:46 am »
Well yes, and Sony is crazy about anti-piracy, protection, and etc. Irony, eh?
Also I believe it has something to do with the CERO ratings.
Especially in Europe where the rating board is extremely strict. (French people can certainly relate, right?) Several games had to be severely altered to get their European debut. (Heavy Rain for example)
I don't think they want people to import games without the proper ratings according to their region.

I laughed when I saw that Gravure 4 you is rated CERO C (rating of the original idolm@ster) while idolm@ster 2 is only rated CERO B.
I wish they also rated games on their kanji content. (That way people wouldn't see CERO A and think "oh this game is for children.")
This would really help!!


Well, I do freelance work for the Australian Classifications Board, in writing its reports.

For most part, most censorship of the European version is due to the Australian Classification rules.

This is due to how regioning is done - Australia is part of PAL. (And for all intents and purposes, even though we've moved to HD and stuff, we're still split in NTSC/PAL areas. Go figure)

Australia also has one of the strictest systems in the world, but this is due to the fact that CERO and ESRB ratings aren't actually binding. You can release a game in both of the countries without a rating (In Japan it would default to 18+, and in the US, major game vendors will refuse to stock it.) but in Australia, releasing a unrated game can get you massive fines and jailtime.

And so is misrepresenting a game that exceeds the boundaries that you claim it is. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, how does losing a couple of million dollars sound? (Rockstar got nailed with a huge fine once and suffered a recall over the hot coffee mod.)

So you can guess what happens. It's easier to just take the most stringent bar and just apply it across the board. It's usually Australia, but depending, sometimes Germany is the bottleneck (Left for Dead 2 more or less). France and the PEGI block are pretty good and consistent.

However, due to the fact it's forced, it's very uncommon for a game to be submitted to the board, and not subsequently released. There's costs in processing a report though, and it's all reported publicly too.

(It also has the nice side effect of making the first point of suing the government itself over any 'damage' a child takes when playing a game, assuming that no deception and/or child neglect on the parents' side happened)

I've pondered throwing idolm@ster Live for you to the Classifications board (since I have standing as an expert) just to see if they'll let me do it. And probably get everyone's hopes up or something. And probably cover my butt if I start doing public performances.

That and to put the report in, it'd cost me a couple of thousand dollars. If nothing else, the subsequent report will confuse the hell out of everyone, including a lot of agencies that treat the Classification Board like the Australian release word of god for gaming.

(Yeah, that's one of my part time jobs. I'm someone with a lot of weird stuff up my sleeve.)
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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #571 on: October 12, 2011, 05:39:34 pm »
Strange.
In America the game companies themselves have to pay (a large amount of money) to get their games rated by the board.
The ESRB has been getting way less strict IMO, so if iDOLM@STER they'd probably just pretend idolm@ster 2 is the first idolm@ster were to ever get localized it would get a pretty light rating.

iDOLM@STER 2 still has touch communications right? If so, those would be removed in a localization.

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #572 on: October 12, 2011, 07:01:27 pm »
It doesn't matter what rating it would get. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Idolm@ster got localised all it would take is one media outlet to go "Wow, it's about dressing under aged girls up in suggestive outfits" and all hell would break loose.

To be honest, if it did somehow manage, it would be reworded and heavily edited and aimed at young girls.

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #573 on: October 12, 2011, 07:04:04 pm »
Unless Idolm@ster were to goes under the radar completely. Which is completely possible. I can't say for sure, but Idolm@ster's suggestiveness/inappropriateness seems to be on par with the Atelier series, Ar Tonelico series, and Hyperdimension series (all of which were localized). I take this back if Idolm@ster is actually worse though.

Anyway, who's excited for the demo tonight/tomorrow? =D

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #574 on: October 12, 2011, 07:23:23 pm »
Anyway, who's excited for the demo tonight/tomorrow? =D

;~; Sad. I will probably not be getting the demo. Even though there is clearly Asian region support for iDOLM@STER, the PVs did not go up so I don't believe I will get the demo.

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #575 on: October 12, 2011, 08:02:22 pm »
o: Why not just make a Japanese PSN account, even if you're not gonna use it for DLC? It's free and I don't remember having too tough of a time making one.

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #576 on: October 12, 2011, 10:19:28 pm »
Just made a Japanese PSN account so I could play the demo tomorrow. You can make a Japanese PSN account even if it's an American, European PS3, etc. BTW here is a tutorial I found in case anyone has any trouble.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Kfm0gCTX0

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #577 on: October 12, 2011, 10:37:19 pm »
Anyway, who's excited for the demo tonight/tomorrow? =D

I AM!
It's a real bad luck for me that the game comes out around Christmas (Yes, October is close to Christmas when you earn 20$ a week) because that's exactly the time of the year where I am the most broke...I'm really starting to think about getting a job, so I can buy plenty DLC...Oh, Im@s, see what you do to me? xD
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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #578 on: October 12, 2011, 10:52:00 pm »
I AM!
It's a real bad luck for me that the game comes out around Christmas (Yes, October is close to Christmas when you earn 20$ a week) because that's exactly the time of the year where I am the most broke...I'm really starting to think about getting a job, so I can buy plenty DLC...Oh, Im@s, see what you do to me? xD

October is even closer to Christmas when you earn $25 a month. What I wouldn't give for $20 a week! I'd love that! XD

I'm not so eager to try out the demo (gee, wonder why) but it also depends on how much you can do with it. i.e. if you have the opportunity to play in S4U mode with the free DLC from the 360 version, yep, I'll download it.

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #579 on: October 12, 2011, 11:07:07 pm »
Bleck. Don't want to make a Japanese account (I already have 3) but I might as well.
What time is the demo suppsoed to come out?

October is even closer to Christmas when you earn $25 a month. What I wouldn't give for $20 a week! I'd love that! XD

2nded.

i.e. if you have the opportunity to play in S4U mode with the free DLC from the 360 version, yep, I'll download it.

Yes! I hope you get to do this. To be honest, as long as Harurun is there and it's in delicious HD at full framrate I'm happy.

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #580 on: October 12, 2011, 11:24:17 pm »
Based on my experience with other Japanese game demos, it'd be around late tonight, like 10-11pm (my time zone in America is central).

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #581 on: October 13, 2011, 01:31:55 am »
I literally just made a Japanese PSN account.

Now I need to get the demo!!! What time would it work for in America??? I can't wait until the next day!!!  :'(
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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #582 on: October 13, 2011, 01:33:59 am »
Like I said, sometime tonight. As of right now, it's the 13th and 8 am in Japan right now. I believe PSN updates sometime in the afternoon or late afternoon.

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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #583 on: October 13, 2011, 01:58:49 am »
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Like I said, sometime tonight. As of right now, it's the 13th and 8 am in Japan right now. I believe PSN updates sometime in the afternoon or late afternoon.

Thank you! :)

I'll be waiting to play it!!!
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Re: Idolm@ster 2 on PS3
« Reply #584 on: October 13, 2011, 02:02:20 am »
Demo should be up in around 4 hours or so. I'm in US central time so that is at a somewhat decent hour for me.