Project Imas Fansub!

[Sev]

edit: oq834uawoeril I keep forgetting things to add to my post.  I think you should try for QCing Sev.  Seeing as we have a possible of 4 editors...

I'll be glad to QC. Katsuyuki-P signed up for 4 task so i think it'll help take the burden off him.

[hamuzou961]

should we post our contact info? also maybe work out a timetable for releases? also, i have a feeling this series wont be out until about summer time or fall.

[Katsuyuki-P]

I'll be glad to QC. Katsuyuki-P signed up for 4 task so i think it'll help take the burden off him.

Ufufu, appreciate it, but don't be stealing all my thunder now. >D

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Hooo crap, lots of things to reply to.  Might as well do it while encoding Danketsu and uploading Omoide wo Arigatou and doing homework that's due for my classes this afternoon (because it's passed midnight! ... I won't be sleeping tonight...)

SP drama would be a good start and there video so we wouldn't need to add images like the other drama cds a few of us have...  If everybody agrees to it then we are into the business!  How do we want to reach out to the fans anyways?  Posting on forums?  Posting videos on youtube?  Etc?

I think for gameplay videos, communication videos, dramas, etc. we can create a youtube account for that stuff.  Although ddl should show up first on forum (which it probably will).  Anime is a whole situation altogether...

should we post our contact info? also maybe work out a timetable for releases? also, i have a feeling this series wont be out until about summer time or fall.

I'm good for that.  It might also be faster if we had some where separate from the forums to communicate. I think most sub groups use IRC.  ... That would be the Third IRC related to this forum wouldn't it...

and now for the slightly less important portion of my post that always seems to come:

Well... atleast before 12 PM(mountain time), I need some *gasp* since I have work in like 8 hours.  A woman needs her beauty sleep after all~

_{this sounds so ritsuko ish i wonder why -brick'd-}  weren't you the one who thought sleep didn't exist.

I'll be glad to QC. Katsuyuki-P signed up for 4 task so i think it'll help take the burden off him.

Ufufu, appreciate it, but don't be stealing all my thunder now. >D

Guys, guys.  We can all have the cre-- oh yeah there was suppose to be a fight to the death. I mean, fight now, go. i'm not being serious of course

tldr; read like the first two quotes.

[Sev]

Ufufu, appreciate it, but don't be stealing all my thunder now. >D

ha ha I'll make sure I don't.

Anyways since we're still in the infant stages of this project i wanted to bring up an issue we may be facing later down the line which is how exactly do we want this project to look like. Someone pointed out a documentary about fan subbing that i think we should all watch and consider at least some of what it says.

Part 1    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUYlqLlbix0&feature=related
Part 2    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJ_BWQ9Kow&feature=related
Part 3    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFu9lh37X34&feature=related
Part 4    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8oYz1dP0-k&feature=related
Part 5    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3HAEjKUl0&feature=related

Anyways the stuff in these videos are good stuff to debate over and help us decide how we want this project to look

As far as contact info goes i understand some of us (like myself) are a little shy about posting up their info on a forum that the public can see. So to help preserve privacy I ask that everyone PM me their info and i will compile it into a list and send it to those of us working on the fansub. this way our private info is only seen by our fellow project members and any weird creepy lurker won't get your email address

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Omoide wo Arigatou (Haruka, Ritsuko, Iori)
Danketsu

First things first, I'm probably going to end up re-encoding Danketsu when proper adjustments are made.  It automatically resizes to 720 x 480 or something like that, which I don't like, at all.  I resized it to 880 x 480 or something, and it looked kind of better, but there was something off about the colour.  Do you know what the original video size (like width x height etc) of the raw Aria?

And @Sev's links because I'm super lazy on quoting:

I actually stumbled upon those videos a couple of days ago while reading up things on encoding.  There's some things I can agree with, but what sticks out is the honorific usage.  I like to keep honorifics usually (im@s does take place in Japan, so it's not that out of place), but changing it to what you think would be heard in English is fine.

Like let's see:

Producer-san -> Producer or Mr/Mister Producer?
Shachou -> President (this is kind of obvious)
Kakka (if this actually gets used lol) -> Your Highness (I think?)

Although, kind of puzzles me on things like, Chihaya calls certain characters by their last names followed by ~san.

Hagiwara-san
Takatsuki-san

So would you just simply put 'Yukiho' 'Yayoi' or go for 'Hagiwara', 'Takatsuki'.  I'm guessing leaning towards the former because it would be kind of weird (and very very formal) to be calling them by last names... That's just my two cents.  I think I just went on about nothing hahaha

I was thinking Forums > Tokyo Toshokan > Youtube for video release.

I was thinking of requesting kami a forum just for whoever is working on these projects and using IRC would help us also.

*Puts on her Ritsuko's Glasses*
BECAUSE I AM RITSUKO!!!  Yes, I did say I thought sleep doesn't exist but you know still beauty sleep!

my email is ilovescotty69@hotmail.com but being serious I will send you my info.

Let's not forget that Maiku would give us a hand on hosting our stuff as well.  I'm kind of leaning off of uploading the anime on youtube is the fact the companies might come rampaging around the corner and kick it off... (WE CAN ALWAYS TRY THOUGH)

A separate section + IRC I've seen is a good combo.

Oh gosh.  our boss is ritsuko.  we're going to be worked to death. noooooooooooo.

and I admit I lol'd at the email.

[Sev]

I actually stumbled upon those videos a couple of days ago while reading up things on encoding.  There's some things I can agree with, but what sticks out is the honorific usage.  I like to keep honorifics usually (im@s does take place in Japan, so it's not that out of place), but changing it to what you think would be heard in English is fine.

Like let's see:

Producer-san -> Producer or Mr/Mister Producer?
Shachou -> President (this is kind of obvious)
Kakka (if this actually gets used lol) -> Your Highness (I think?)

Although, kind of puzzles me on things like, Chihaya calls certain characters by their last names followed by ~san.

Hagiwara-san
Takatsuki-san

So would you just simply put 'Yukiho' 'Yayoi' or go for 'Hagiwara', 'Takatsuki'.  I'm guessing leaning towards the former because it would be kind of weird (and very very formal) to be calling them by last names... That's just my two cents.  I think I just went on about nothing hahaha

I agree wholeheartedly honorifics should definitely be kept. As far as names go if a character uses the last name to address some one then i think the sub should say that as well. it kinda helps show the level of trust between characters. Thats something we could vote on later.

 I believe that if possible we should have zero TL notes. it would really help the English iM@S community expand if we had a fan sub that was as close to professional as possible. which would mean no flashy credits or scenes with three lines like mentioned in the vid.

[Katsuyuki-P]

Alrighty, first things first.

The Danketsu subs, the white text and white outline tend to sometimes be a tad hard to read in certain spots. Such as the beginning or when it's up against bright objects, another instance being at the very end. Also, it also causes the dots in the lowercase I's to meld and look like a lowercase L in other instances.

The only other thing I have to mention is that Makoto's part is -really- hard to read in this case. I recommend using a lighter gray color instead?

Useless Note: Ritsuko's green seems more like Miki's than Miki's green. =P

For relations, it looks fairly good. Though I admit the 'WoWoWoWoooow' at the end looks a tic silly. =P Especially considering the serious nature of the song. Perhaps just removing that would be good. I mean, I don't think you need subs to tell that part do ye?


Now for the other parts you mentioned:

I prefer to keep the honorifics and last names in, or at least keep with the last names. It'd be weird to see 'Yayoi' yet hear 'Takatsuki-san'. Though that's just my two cents on this.

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picup stop posting and do your homework

The L and i thing might be my fault because VDMod likes to do weird things with subs sometimes...

And the Wowowoww is actually part of the raw file, so we wouldn't be able to remove it.... (I admit, when I saw it too I actually laughed, and then looked up the lyrics, and... saw the wowowow in part of the lyrics)

I'm guessing omoide wo arigatou is fine then?  (I forgot to mention the pink colour used as the karaoke looked really nice for some reason...)

[Katsuyuki-P]

picup stop posting and do your homework

The L and i thing might be my fault because VDMod likes to do weird things with subs sometimes...

And the Wowowoww is actually part of the raw file, so we wouldn't be able to remove it.... (I admit, when I saw it too I actually laughed, and then looked up the lyrics, and... saw the wowowow in part of the lyrics)

I'm guessing omoide wo arigatou is fine then?  (I forgot to mention the pink colour used as the karaoke looked really nice for some reason...)

Actually, funny story. The Omoide wo Arigatou Link leads to the 'relations' DL Link.

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Actually, funny story. The Omoide wo Arigatou Link leads to the 'relations' DL Link.

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Thanks for pointing that out.  I'll go fix that in a second...

Ninja Edit: All fix'd now!

Omoide wo Arigatou

[Katsuyuki-P]

Got it!

Anyways, for the most part, Omoide wo Arigatou looks fine. The sync is pretty good and nothing looks too out of place and it's not hard to read. Though there is the moment at 1:08, just a grammatical pick, I think there should be a comma or something after "memories".

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You have the raws, so the you should be able to get the size info.

One more thing are we going to want to pick the characters colors and should non-idol character get color?  If so what color will they be?

Funny you say that because the raw only told me how big the file was.  No information on what the resolution (do we call it that??)...

And is this specific towards the anime?  If it is, the anime should just be one colour to keep everything consistent.  Communication videos don't need the colour because it states who said what.  I can only think of using colours for videos when they're singing and dancing, and the drama cds.

[Katsuyuki-P]

Matoko to a gray?  Right now Yukiho is using a silver and i'm trying my best to not to make colors look alike but I will see how it comes out.  I was using true web colors, do you want Ritsuko to be a darker shade of green then and Miki takes the current color Ritsuko has?

Feel free to fix grammar because the lyrics came straight from our wiki.

Noted about the grammar.

As for the colors in the songs, yes, that would be more fitting. Though that's just my opinion, I recommend something like Color # 003300 or some forest green color. =P As for the anime and Communication/Promotion subs, just keep everything one color, easier that way.

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I will check on then when im off work.

Well, I thought we wouldn't be using it for the anime anyways, but im not sure if color will be needed for songs.  That's what I think anyways but if everybody agrees on using color text then I will go with it.

Thank you~

Well.  I see it as the "english" translation part is okay in the black shadow, white font colour way.  But I mean to make it... unique (?) or just different, karaoke effects can be in the responding character's colour.  That's just how I see it anyway.  The dramas are good for colour code because I stupidly enough get characters mixed up all the time.

or was it their singing voices, i can't remember.