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lluzz

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #180 on: April 26, 2011, 08:02:39 am »
The problem with WS is that it is a card game with limited number of cards.
It will suits series with some main characters plus some sidekicks but it didn't go well with imas who have 12 main charas (more if you count the DS girls).
Eventually there will be ppl like you who have your fave chara relegated to support status.

IMO, the most glaring part of these are the twins.
You cant make a mono yellow deck without the twins as they handle support & attack themselves while iori & yukiho are relegated to fillers.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #181 on: April 26, 2011, 02:16:03 pm »
@Cael K.

The shooting Azusa is costly. I had a standard music trait deck that incorporate this combo, but even so, to shoot more than once per game will put me more into the disadvantage zone instead. Even though I had no problem building up at least ten stock by then.

If you want to have Azusa in a themed deck, an option is a Missing Moon deck, pure blue. It plays better than the Azusa deck I listed then.

Below is a decklist of one of my still-active decks. It was build for a Missing Moon theme, from whatever remaining spare cards I have left that can be used.

= SP Missing Moon =
2x IM/S07-091 C ボーカリスト千早
1x IM/S07-118 PR ほのかにセクシーあずさ
2x IM/S07-055 R 天海 春香
2x IM/S07-054 R 菊地 真
1x IM/S07-112 PR ドレス姿の律子
2x IM/S07-083 U 頭脳明晰 律子
2x IM/S07-079 R 研究熱心 律子
3x IM/S07-078 R 癒し系あずさ
3x IM/S07-084 U あわてる律子
3x IM/S07-076 RR 如月 千早
1x IM/S07-086 U 生真面目 千早
2x IM/S07-077 RR 秋月 律子
1x IM/S07-065 C 王子様 真
2x IM/S07-095 U ある日の風景
2x IM/S07-081 R お姉さん あずさ
1x IM/SE04-29 R 歌の助言 千早
4x IM/S07-092 C 天才シンガー千早
2x IM/S07-093 C 歩く仕切り屋 律子
2x IM/S07-043 C 正義の味方 響
4x IM/S07-082 R 歌の女神 千早
3x IM/S07-098 CR いっぱいいっぱい
2x IM/S07-099 CC 目が逢う瞬間
3x IM/S07-100 CC 隣に・・・

You should be able to get a general idea of how it works. lol Quite straightforward.

Ryo deck is pretty straightforward to build. Throw in four copies of every Ryo card in the EP (including Dazzling World), and add the following:

4x IM/SE04-26 R 事件の予感 律子
4x IM/S07-046 U 寄り道
3x IM/S07-032 R 動物大好き響
3x IM/S07-037 U 気まぐれな美希
4x IM/S07-049 CC Next Life

The remaining ten cards is up to you. LOL


@lluzz

I do like it being that scattered in a way, since each card focus on only one character. The only non-PR cards to date that features more than one character in a card is IM/SE04-10 C 凸凹コンビ 涼&夢子 and IM/SE04-20 C 明るい親子 愛&舞. From a collector's point of view, its actually better that way.

But like you said, its not really nice to see characters you like getting slotted towards the sidelines in terms of gameplay. That I gotta admit.

And that yellow part, its true that the twins have a slightly bigger slice of the pie. But still, Iori and Yukiho decks are still form-able and playable, though, like the Azusa deck, is not exactly tournament standard. A Yukiho deck is more towards a Clothes Change deck. For now.

I've dismantled my Yukiho deck, but my Iori deck still exists. Here is the list:

2x IM/S07-119 PR ウェディングドレスの伊織
2x IM/S07-015 C 双子の猛獣 亜美&真美
4x IM/S07-014 C 自信満々な伊織
2x IM/SE04-01 C 0(≧◇≦)人(≧◇≦)0 亜美&真美
3x IM/S07-003 R 元気が一番 亜美&真美
3x IM/S07-063 C 明るい笑顔やよい
4x IM/S07-010 U お茶パワー雪歩
4x IM/S07-009 U 負けず嫌い伊織
4x IM/S07-017 C 感謝の証 伊織
3x IM/S07-021 U 衣装変更
4x IM/S07-007 R 水瀬 伊織
4x IM/S07-019 C じゃじゃ馬お嬢様 伊織
3x IM/S07-022 C ポーズレッスン
2x IM/S07-023 CR スタ→トスタ→
2x IM/S07-024 CC Kosmos,Cosmos
4x IM/S07-025 CC フタリの記憶

Pretty playable, if you ask me. =X And, if you want, you can remove all the twins cards and the deck will still run fine. Just that without IM/S07-003 R 元気が一番 亜美&真美, the only yellow assist, your Clothes Change will not be fully utilised. And before you start on the assist part, every colour has one level 0 standard assist. XD

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #182 on: April 26, 2011, 08:39:04 pm »
Never really paid attention to Iori's cards & the only Yukiho that i like is the 2/2/8000 that gets +2000 at your turn if there's Clothes Change in the memory.

Its not that you cant make decks from iori & yukiho, but the whole yellow color is kinda support for the twins.
Not that i complains. Actually they're the most interesting decks out of all imas cards.
You pump them up and hulk smash your opponent in the face .... and then got trampled at your opponent's turn because they revert back to cute little girls.  ;D

I dont have many booster imas cards, only extrapacks. My deck is a Ryo-Ai deck.
Not too good though, need alot of luck to make the deck ran smoothly.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #183 on: April 27, 2011, 01:09:08 am »
Ryo deck is pretty straightforward to build. Throw in four copies of every Ryo card in the EP (including Dazzling World), and add the following:

4x IM/SE04-26 R 事件の予感 律子
4x IM/S07-046 U 寄り道
3x IM/S07-032 R 動物大好き響
3x IM/S07-037 U 気まぐれな美希
4x IM/S07-049 CC Next Life

The remaining ten cards is up to you. LOL

Heh, heh... yeah, I think a Ryou deck won a tournament somewhere, and I saw nothing but Ryou cards in the deck list. Not a lot of thought involved, I guess you just throw him down and start drop kicking people.

Though thanks for the advice, and especially the links. Took a while to write, huh?
« Last Edit: April 27, 2011, 01:11:11 am by Cael K. »
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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #184 on: April 27, 2011, 08:07:41 am »
first imas 2 card spoiler.
i'll let u guys translate it, i cant read moonrunes.  ;D


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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #185 on: April 27, 2011, 01:58:48 pm »
Well, during its time, even the opponent have to think twice when he wants to trample over your twins. Now, he doesn't even have to put in a single thought, because there's no way your counters can even match his power, much less overpower in return. Also, now, even a 6500 power can't even overpower a new series level one cost one character, I have to rely on my 10500 power character to try to contain opponent's advantage while my twins side attack.

And Ryo, as a neo-standard deck, have a major weakness. Its weak in late game, so you have to smack your opponent dizzy BEFORE your level one starts to lose its power advantage. The whole intention of a Ryo deck is to trample all over your opponent during level zero and one, to the point where he has resources problem once he reaches level two. Its a nice balance, to me, that is.


And about the preview im@S2 card:

Card Name: Casual Clothes Yayoi
Card Number: IM/S14-T03 TD
Type: Character
Level: 0
Cost: 0
Trigger: -
Power: 3000
Soul: 1
Traits: Music, Frog

Effect:
[Auto] When this card is put into stage from your hand, if your opponent has a "Casual Clothes Yayoi" on his field, both players may agree to do a high five. If a high five is done, both participating players add the top card of his deck to his stock. (Please note the volume.)

Flavour Text:
Producer! High touch!

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #186 on: April 27, 2011, 06:09:40 pm »
first imas 2 card spoiler.
i'll let u guys translate it, i cant read moonrunes.  ;D



Its the same ability as the 2/1 8.5k.
And it will be in the trial deck.
Which means trial deck will be yellow.
If you want Imas single cards you can PM me with a list or I can provide you with a list of available cards.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #187 on: April 27, 2011, 06:13:24 pm »
Well, during its time, even the opponent have to think twice when he wants to trample over your twins. Now, he doesn't even have to put in a single thought, because there's no way your counters can even match his power, much less overpower in return. Also, now, even a 6500 power can't even overpower a new series level one cost one character, I have to rely on my 10500 power character to try to contain opponent's advantage while my twins side attack.

And Ryo, as a neo-standard deck, have a major weakness. Its weak in late game, so you have to smack your opponent dizzy BEFORE your level one starts to lose its power advantage. The whole intention of a Ryo deck is to trample all over your opponent during level zero and one, to the point where he has resources problem once he reaches level two. Its a nice balance, to me, that is.

Actually Ryou doesn't have to be neostandard. It can be mixed with blue for the lvl 3/2 Chihaya for power when you are in the higher levels.

That said, the recent tourney had 3 Imas deck lists in the top and thats even b4 Imas 2 boosters come out.

This is my last hope for WS coz I don't really enjoy a game where you have a dominating field but you lose to luck (unable to cancel). Happened too many times.
If you want Imas single cards you can PM me with a list or I can provide you with a list of available cards.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #188 on: April 28, 2011, 02:04:42 am »
It can be mixed, but there might be some stock issue. With the 3/2 Miki, all you need is just 2 of that green event counters in your memory, and the chances of having to use that event as counter is still pretty good.

And what are the three decks like?

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #189 on: April 30, 2011, 03:50:49 pm »
It can be mixed, but there might be some stock issue. With the 3/2 Miki, all you need is just 2 of that green event counters in your memory, and the chances of having to use that event as counter is still pretty good.

And what are the three decks like?

Oops here is the link:
http://ws-tcg.com/deckrecipe/recipe_wsf2011_trio.html

Well they most will play Blue and a bit red.
Sometimes green for Ryou.

Blue for the Lvl 2 Chihaya which changes into Lvl 3 and Red for that expensive RR Haruka.
If you want Imas single cards you can PM me with a list or I can provide you with a list of available cards.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #190 on: May 02, 2011, 06:20:57 am »
vanilla preview


I dont think imas 2 is worth collecting if all the cards looks like this, just a bunch of screenshots of the game.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #191 on: May 02, 2011, 07:49:06 am »
vanilla preview


I dont think imas 2 is worth collecting if all the cards looks like this, just a bunch of screenshots of the game.

Lol you beat me to posting the card of the day.

Anyway Bushiroad is very good at
1) Printing vanillas which are reprints from other series with a different name, trait and colour.
2) Taking screen shots from games, anime or novels.

so I am not very suprised.

Anyway this confirms that the Trial Deck will be Red and Yellow.
I rather have a 1/1 7k coz there is already a 1/0 5.5k Ai from Idolmaster Extra Pack which can change from a Lvl 0.....
If you want Imas single cards you can PM me with a list or I can provide you with a list of available cards.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #192 on: May 02, 2011, 08:58:08 am »
eh, they're good but it's still screenshots.
Of course it's only 2 cards spoiled, hoping for more artwork pics instead of screenshots.

Yeah since you mention it, imas dont have any 1/1/7k.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #193 on: May 02, 2011, 12:01:53 pm »
eh, they're good but it's still screenshots.
Of course it's only 2 cards spoiled, hoping for more artwork pics instead of screenshots.

Yeah since you mention it, imas dont have any 1/1/7k.

The 1/0 5.5k Miki is useless compared to the 1/0 5.5k Ai which can change out at Lvl 0.
Also the Imas EP has some cards which have synergy with Ai.
I doubt any cards will have synergy with Miki coz they need to feature 12 idols while the Imas EP featured only 3 idols.

There are no 1/1 7ks coz 1/1 7k was introduced around the time Haruhi boosters came out which was after Imas. That's why people are using 1/1 7.5k Ryou.
If you want Imas single cards you can PM me with a list or I can provide you with a list of available cards.

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Re: THE iDOLM@STER TCG (Weiβ Schwarz)
« Reply #194 on: May 03, 2011, 04:38:30 pm »
Saw the three IM decklists. Not surprising, since the combination of Chihaya and Ai/Miki at late game is easily the strongest and most balanced/stable lv2/3 build in iM@S, and being red/blue means the 2/1 Ritsuko support and the sleeper Haruka (S07-51 RR) are available. Late game support with early game hand setup and stock control.

I ran a tri-colour Lv3 iM@S deck before, based off a friend's tri-colour Lv3 Haruhi deck, and I can say, it can be pretty scary. Eight Lv3 characters in total, every single one can appear at Lv2, all at a pretty low cost. Seeing the decklists, I suddenly feel the urge to rebuilt back my Lv3 deck. lol

(Hint to Zero: Ask Edwen of RC if you are interested about my iM@S Lv3 tri-colour deck. XD)

In the current IM series, including the Dearly Stars, the strongest Lv3 is the Song Goddess Chihaya. And if you think its because of the change ability, I can tell you this: The change ability doesn't even tally up to 50% of the reason.

IM/S07-082 R 歌の女神 千早 is considered my "神牌" in Weiss Schwarz, and its not for nothing. =)