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Title: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 22, 2014, 12:39:28 AM
As we all know at this point, The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls is getting an anime set for the Winter Season of 2015.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/04/05-1/video-social-game-the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-gets-tv-anime-in-january-2015

(http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/0fc72b48ea9aea6c88a9862de19813a41396745358_full.jpg)

I decided to make this topic as a way of discussing the anime, speculation, what we're excited for, what we're doubtful of, and episode discussions once the show airs.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 22, 2014, 12:50:30 AM
I'm really looking forward to seeing all the girls get more fleshed out in terms of characterization! I don't think all 30 characters with CDs will appear, but a few is more than nothing. Although, some characters will probably get shafted if it's like the original idolmaster anime, and some of my favorites probably won't appear at all.

I hope the New Generation girls don't hog the spotlight though. They just... Lack the appeal and charm of Haruka, Chihaya, and Miki?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 22, 2014, 12:54:50 AM
I'm really looking forward to seeing all the girls get more fleshed out in terms of characterization! I don't think all 30 characters with CDs will appear, but a few is more than nothing. Although, some characters will probably get shafted if it's like the original idolmaster anime, and some of my favorites probably won't appear at all.

I hope the New Generation girls don't hog the spotlight though. They just... Lack the appeal and charm of Haruka, Chihaya, and Miki?

Well, like you said, this could be a great opportunity to flesh out the girls' characters here and it can also give some fans a LOT more exposure to Cinderella Girls as a result since an anime is 10x more accessible to people than a Japan-only mobile phone game.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 22, 2014, 01:04:03 AM
It'd be cool if a western CG fandom resulted in the game being opened up to "unverified users" (they mean gaijin), but I can't see it happening. Oh well, it's nice to think about.

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 22, 2014, 01:06:44 AM
It'd be cool if a western CG fandom resulted in the game being opened up to "unverified users" (they mean gaijin), but I can't see it happening. Oh well, it's nice to think about.

Shiny Festa got ported to the iOS internationally and Puchim@s' first and second seasons are officially simulcast by Funimation for the US, so it could happen.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Naryoril on April 22, 2014, 09:37:16 AM
i'd have preferred them to make an anime with the 876pro girls
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 27, 2014, 04:38:20 PM
Uzuki confirmed as Main CG.

http://zakitakubu.com/2014/04/26/the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-tv-anime-to-air-2015-and-shimamura-uzuki-to-be-main-heroine/
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 27, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
Uzuki confirmed as Main CG.

http://zakitakubu.com/2014/04/26/the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-tv-anime-to-air-2015-and-shimamura-uzuki-to-be-main-heroine/
really hope she doesn't steal the spotlight TOO much, because... How to put it... Boring.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SakuraMaxX on April 27, 2014, 07:15:09 PM
Oh it's centered around New Generation.  That's fine by me.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Byuusan on April 27, 2014, 08:52:51 PM
Swore that Rin would be main heroine. Im sure she has a decent part however.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SakuraMaxX on April 27, 2014, 08:54:39 PM
Uzuki's always been seen as the "protagonist" type, similar to how Haruka, Ai, and Mirai are.  Rin and Mio are in her unit though, so they'll get the biggest parts.  At this point I'm kinda expecting this to be similar to the New Generation manga.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: RisingStar on April 27, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Uzuki confirmed as Main CG.

http://zakitakubu.com/2014/04/26/the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-tv-anime-to-air-2015-and-shimamura-uzuki-to-be-main-heroine/

I am OK with this. Even though I don't think she'll get to show she's the real "heroine" with other popular CGs like Rin, Sachiko, and Ranko around.

Hopefully the anime focus on Uzuki (and Rin and Mio) + 2-3 other CGs an episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on April 27, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
I am OK with this. Even though I don't think she'll get to show she's the real "heroine" with other popular CGs like Rin, Sachiko, and Ranko around.

Hopefully the anime focus on Uzuki (and Rin and Mio) + 2-3 other CGs an episode.

Actually, I'd prefer focus. The last thing I want is them to run into the air time problem, where they have to force in character introductions and give everyone lines whether or not it drags things out or not. As much as I'd like certain characters to make an appearance, I don't want everyone else's development to suffer.

The New Generations manga was pretty light fare, and I'd like them to go a bit deeper into some of these characters.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 27, 2014, 10:28:43 PM
Swore that Rin would be main heroine. Im sure she has a decent part however.
Uzuki's always been seen as the "protagonist" type, similar to how Haruka, Ai, and Mirai are.  Rin and Mio are in her unit though, so they'll get the biggest parts.  At this point I'm kinda expecting this to be similar to the New Generation manga.

To me, Uzuki is the protagonist, the main character. Rin is, more or less, the mascot of Cinderella Girls. Kinda like Pikachu in Pokemon. Its not the main character, but it is used as part of the marketing and is most recognizable when it comes to the game. And Mio is the lovable fan-favorite.

Actually, I'd prefer focus. The last thing I want is them to run into the air time problem, where they have to force in character introductions and give everyone lines whether or not it drags things out or not. As much as I'd like certain characters to make an appearance, I don't want everyone else's development to suffer.

The New Generations manga was pretty light fare, and I'd like them to go a bit deeper into some of these characters.


I would prefer if it were laid out more like either the New Generation or Rockin Girl manga. Have the main focus be on a main trio amd have other characters pop up during some major situations. As well as have about 3 or 4 girls that would appear often, but not as a main role. This does seem more logical in my eyes, as it prevents the overall narative from being a total cluterf**k.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Daverost on April 28, 2014, 02:37:13 PM
I'm totally okay with an Uzuki lead.

I hope we get Uzupaca BD specials.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on May 08, 2014, 07:45:38 PM
To me, Uzuki is the protagonist, the main character. Rin is, more or less, the mascot of Cinderella Girls.
There was a similar duo in AKB0048, with Nagisa (CV: Karen Iwata) being the main heroine and Chieri (CV: Mayu Watanabe) her rival. Not to spoil too much, the creators (Director: Shoji Kawamori) applied a finely crafted Solomon solution to the finale, so it's arguable who "won". Chieri was obviously more capable and received the capability prize, while Uzu.., er... Nagisa received the "heart" prize. This sort of resolution was uncommon in the anime before and perhaps we will see a replay.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: RisingStar on May 10, 2014, 06:10:38 PM
Anyone know where I can read about the information on the CG anime that was in Megami?

I've searched in both English and Japanese, but I can't find anything.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on May 31, 2014, 02:30:10 PM
A train station in Japan is putting up wall posters for the Cinderella Girls anime. One of these, pictured below, is the key visual for Cute idols.

 (http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/d0e542c509e64ec77f4f69ed7c1032971401506219_full.jpg)

Does this confirm Momoka getting a voice?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 30, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
Passion Visual!

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/deremasu/imgs/1/b/1b4f664c.jpg)

I didn't upload the Cool Visual here because Okayu uploaded it to the main Cinderella Girls thread. :P

EDIT: Higher quality version.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Daverost on July 31, 2014, 02:27:27 PM
...Why Nina?

But Syoko's in, AOAT.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 31, 2014, 05:04:17 PM
...Why Nina?

But Syoko's in, AOAT.

Because she was in the PV. :P

Which has me thinking, now that we know that all 30 girls from the Onegai! Cinderella PV are in the anime, does this mean that Sae and Yuko are not going to appear at all? I'm actually kinda worried because if that were the case, then giving them voices would not only feel like a waste, but it would also give me the vibes that those two were chosen at the last minute and Momoka and Nina were actually SUPPOSED to be in Batch Six instead. :/
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on July 31, 2014, 06:36:40 PM
Because she was in the PV. :P

Which has me thinking, now that we know that all 30 girls from the Onegai! Cinderella PV are in the anime, does this mean that Sae and Yuko are not going to appear at all? I'm actually kinda worried because if that were the case, then giving them voices would not only feel like a waste, but it would also give me the vibes that those two were chosen at the last minute and Momoka and Nina were actually SUPPOSED to be in Batch Six instead. :/

Keep in mind that creating an anime takes years to finish, so the team release their product after they complete it. Nina and Momoka both most likely have a voice, but weren't announced until time has come.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 31, 2014, 06:46:18 PM
Keep in mind that creating an anime takes years to finish, so the team release their product after they complete it. Nina and Momoka both most likely have a voice, but weren't announced until time has come.

Good point. Maybe Sae and Yuko can have a cameo or something.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: millefeuille on August 21, 2014, 12:19:10 PM
Cinderella Girls feels a bit difficult for me to get into because there are so many characters and etc. I'm looking forward to the anime because I hope it'll make the series feel more approachable and less overwhelming, haha.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on August 21, 2014, 08:47:14 PM
Cinderella Girls feels a bit difficult for me to get into because there are so many characters and etc. I'm looking forward to the anime because I hope it'll make the series feel more approachable and less overwhelming, haha.
If you wanna get into it, my suggestion would be to start with the 30 or so idols that have CDs (and then are making appearances in the anime)! The music for CG is really, really good overall. Maybe pick a few characters that pique your interest and read more into them?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/TheIdolmaster-CinderellaGirls
There's also this but for some of the less popular characters it's really inaccurate... It's better than nothing, though?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: millefeuille on August 21, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Ah thank you, that's a good idea! It helps that I love going on tvtropes.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on September 22, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
First official PV (as in, with original animations, no rehashes) can be found here:

http://deremas.doorblog.jp/archives/40969741.html

Its looking like a New Generation focused anime. Which I completely expected anyway. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 22, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
First official PV (as in, with original animations, no rehashes) can be found here:

http://deremas.doorblog.jp/archives/40969741.html

Its looking like a New Generation focused anime. Which I completely expected anyway. :P
I'm kinda meh on the fact that it's NG mostly, but I guess it can't be helped.

Of course the PV comes out while I'm at school with no headphones though lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on September 22, 2014, 05:29:58 PM
The visuals are quite beautiful, for starters. Here's to hoping the original thirteen make cameos or at most have an episode based around them.

Particularly Chihaya just because. :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: altuixde on September 22, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
There was a glass slipper in the PV. Do you think they'll explain why the franchise is called Cinderella Girls? Or have they already explained that?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on September 22, 2014, 06:02:10 PM
I'm kinda meh on the fact that it's NG mostly, but I guess it can't be helped.

Of course the PV comes out while I'm at school with no headphones though lol

Go to the bathroom, borrow earphones, and watch it. That's what *I* did.

There was a glass slipper in the PV. Do you think they'll explain why the franchise is called Cinderella Girls? Or have they already explained that?

I guess it might be because the concept of Cinderella Girls is "Rags to Riches", kinda like the original story of Cinderella. The slipper in the PV might be symbolic or something.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 22, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
I take back my initial hesitance over the trailer, I'm sooooo excited now. What little animation we saw looks so gorgeous and fluid! And I'm actually kind of excited over the fact that it's dealing with the New Gen trio, I feel like their friendship could be quite interesting.

Baseless speculation: I feel like the first episode will deal with Rin and Uzuki's meeting, and Mio will be introduced at the end.

Also is that an Onegai! Cinderella jazz remix I saw mentioned at the very end? If it's anything like the perfect idol jazz remixes I'm super hyped for it.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: animagic4u on September 22, 2014, 07:52:10 PM
I guess it might be because the concept of Cinderella Girls is "Rags to Riches", kinda like the original story of Cinderella. The slipper in the PV might be symbolic or something.

That's what I thought it was. Giving seiyuu a chance to break into their careers in a well known franchise (the iDOLM@STER as a whole) and eventually become 'Cinderella'.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Okayu on September 22, 2014, 08:19:14 PM
That's what I thought it was. Giving seiyuu a chance to break into their careers in a well known franchise (the iDOLM@STER as a whole) and eventually become 'Cinderella'.
Adding to this I always thought it was like "we'll give you a ton of girls and whoever are the most popular will succeed". That's why the girls who win the polls are called Cinderella Girls or given voices. They went from being nobody unvoiced newcomers to joining the ranks of voiced idols which will get further focus and development. Of course this also means not everyone will succeed. Or rather everyone gets a basic story in the game itself, but only the selected will continue on. To be honest I didn't like this method much. While it's cool that fans get to pick what they want, every idol will attract fans and those fans will be dissapointed if their idol isn't selected. At least with 765, excluding non-PS3 2 which resulted to the mini routes in 2, every girl was guaranteed a route each game and a certain amount of focus.

Anyways I think this PV is slightly higher quality than the 2011 anime. The designs also look maybe a tad bit closer to the original designs. CG sure is lucky, getting good smile company scales and figmas instantly while the latter took 765 years and now a better looking anime. Also after almost 3 years I get almost everyone hates NG, as they have said many times, but it gets really aggravating when it's complained about over and over when it's not going to change anything. It's like if someone complained every time Haruka Chihaya or Miki got something, or every time pairings like Iori and Yayoi or Makoto and Yukiho happened.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on September 22, 2014, 08:34:43 PM
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Also after almost 3 years I get almost everyone hates NG, as they have said many times, but it gets really aggravating when it's complained about over and over when it's not going to change anything. It's like if someone complained every time Haruka Chihaya or Miki got something, or every time pairings like Iori and Yayoi or Makoto and Yukiho happened.

Am I the only person that doesn't MIND New Gen? Like, at all? I liked them in the New Generation manga, so that's what made me like them in general. I dunno, maybe its just my overall tendency to go against the norm or something. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 22, 2014, 10:03:05 PM
I know I complain endlessly about them, but really my only major problem is that they shift the spotlight off characters I want to know more about. They're not that bad, it's more their concept.

But the anime could and probably will change all that!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: animagic4u on September 22, 2014, 11:18:40 PM
I just love everything iDOLM@STER. That is all.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 22, 2014, 11:31:47 PM
I just love everything iDOLM@STER. That is all.
That's basically my opinion lololol

I may have things to whine about but I love it allllll.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on September 23, 2014, 12:11:29 AM
I just love everything iDOLM@STER. That is all.

That's basically my opinion lololol

I may have things to whine about but I love it allllll.

Same. Call it fanboyism or blind optimism, but it's hard for me to hate something in this franchise unless its an EXTREME f**kup.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: redhairedking on September 23, 2014, 07:24:24 PM
Same. Call it fanboyism or blind optimism, but it's hard for me to hate something in this franchise unless its an EXTREME f**kup.

Based on what we've seen of the CG anime I think it will probably be fine. I'm not expecting anything amazing, but I think it will be enjoyable.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on October 04, 2014, 09:01:11 AM
Of course this also means not everyone will succeed.

It's nothing new as fans of Shinkan Shoujo know only too well. At least fans of Leon have some hope still left.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on October 04, 2014, 09:04:28 AM
First official PV (as in, with original animations, no rehashes)
The pilot had all the original animation too. It's referenced at the beginning of this thread in case you want to find it. I think most of it is going to end in the OP, while "the" PV that just came out is the in-episode material.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on October 04, 2014, 09:08:34 AM
There was a glass slipper in the PV. Do you think they'll explain why the franchise is called Cinderella Girls? Or have they already explained that?

Okay I see people didn't watch the pilot. There was a glass shoe in that one too, only falling into water rather than rolling out of a box. But also, IIRC, the pumpkin. More importantly, all the transformation sequences and other Cinderella things.

Note, however, that they got some of the mythology backwards from the fairy tale. In the pilot, girls transform into idols at the strike of the midnight, whereas in the fairy tale, Cinderella's transformation unrolled in the opposite direction. Not exactly sure what's up with that.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on October 04, 2014, 09:14:50 AM
I see that this thread only started in April, when the anime announcement was made. However, the pilot was rolled out in December. Back then, Mobage and Namco were pretending that anime wasn't happening and the video is just a tribute to the game with A-1 animation.

If you cannot find the video, I saved a few screencaps here:
 http://ani-nouto.animeblogger.net/2014/01/11/ims-cinderella-girls-pv/
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: liza94 on October 31, 2014, 11:46:21 PM
I do hope that the creators will follow the "Everyone is a main character" pattern... :(

And... I have a question: what is unique in Uzuki's personality? Every idol has something that differs her from the rest but Uzuki doesn't... In addition I have a feeling that she will get a lot of screen time but (almost) no character development...  :(
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on November 01, 2014, 12:33:22 AM
And... I have a question: what is unique in Uzuki's personality? Every idol has something that differs her from the rest but Uzuki doesn't...

Ironically, by being normal.

You see, Cinderella Girls is FAR more outlandish than the main series in terms of characters. As in, quite a number of girls are almost cartoony in how they are in terms of personality and overall characterization. Uzuki sticks out from them by being a normal teenage girl. It's pretty much "In a world full of weirdos, being normal is considered being weird".
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: AkuAkane on November 01, 2014, 12:34:19 AM
I do hope that the creators will follow the "Everyone is a main character" pattern... :(

And... I have a question: what is unique in Uzuki's personality? Every idol has something that differs her from the rest but Uzuki doesn't... In addition I have a feeling that she will get a lot of screen time but (almost) no character development...  :(

From the wikia it says that shes positive and hardworking. She basically sounds like a generic main character. So yeah, she seems pretty bland. Screen time wise, I hope they split it up as well as they can; I think if any characters get extra screen time it would be Uzuki, Rin, and Mio.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on November 05, 2014, 03:13:22 AM
Air Date and Time officially announced!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/11/04/the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-start-date-announced

That timeslot, though. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on November 05, 2014, 03:33:03 AM
I don't see why that's worth noting, jojo and idolmaster are essentially the same.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: AkuAkane on November 06, 2014, 03:51:39 AM
Although the contrast is sorta humorous, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Idolm@ster are aimed at the same demographic so its not really surprising.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on November 06, 2014, 02:24:22 PM
Minami! Anya! The Perfect Duo! <3!

(http://i.imgur.com/O3Ygwvm.jpg)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: liza94 on November 06, 2014, 02:34:34 PM
Minami! Anya! The Perfect Duo! <3!

(http://i.imgur.com/O3Ygwvm.jpg)

Yes!!! ^-^  Add Rin and it will be a perfect trio! ;)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on November 07, 2014, 04:46:07 AM
Didn't know what you guys were talking about, but here's an explanation
 http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/11/06/anastasia-and-minami-nitta-featured-in-latest-cinderella-the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-anime-visual
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: AkuAkane on November 08, 2014, 01:46:03 AM
Didn't know what you guys were talking about, but here's an explanation
 http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/11/06/anastasia-and-minami-nitta-featured-in-latest-cinderella-the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-anime-visual

I don't really see why what they were talking about needed an explanation since they were just talking about two characters in a picture being a good duo lol Interesting about the 2ch thing though.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: liza94 on November 14, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
Does anybody know what is on "Cinderella girls animation -first set-"? Is it an OVA?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on November 14, 2014, 03:25:07 PM
Does anybody know what is on "Cinderella girls animation -first set-"? Is it an OVA?

The Onegai Cinderella PV from last November and a special digest of the first Cinderella Girls Live Event. It also comes with a CD with a jazz arrangement of Onegai Cinderella and an artbook featuring illustrations of the 30 girls to be featured in the anime. From what I've seen, the artbook looks more worth it than the DVD.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on November 30, 2014, 04:32:24 PM
New anime PV has some interesting info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u3jqcdrapg

First of all, the agency is new. The girls work at 346 Productions rather than 765 Productions.

Also (and this might upset some people), not EVERY voiced character will be focused on. All 30 were advertised, but the MAIN cast of the anime will only be about half of that number, making the main cast as big as the 2011 765Pro anime. Hey, at least Minami is in the main cast, so instantly happy! ^-^!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on November 30, 2014, 04:50:31 PM
Anyone seen this translated yet? Tons of stuff like the 20-hour meetings
 http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/965/965735/
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on November 30, 2014, 05:21:13 PM
Tbh I'm glad it's onlyl 14. Can you imagine an anime focusing on 30+ girls? The original anime still had some girls get little to no focus with 14...

But I'm confused as to why Rika's in the main cast and Mika isn't. Mika's much more popular, for one.

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on November 30, 2014, 05:24:40 PM
So, 346 is pronounced as 'mishiro'. Not sure what that means. The new opening theme song is called 'Star!!', which is going to be debuted at the 2nd Cinderella Girls Live, PARTY M@GIC!! Live. It's written by Yuriko Mori and composed and arranged by Tanaka Hidekazu (MONACA).

In addition, set for release on January 21st, 2015, THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS ANIMATION PROJECT 00 ST@RTER BEST showcases songs from all members of CINDERELLA PROJECT along with a bonus track. It'll cost 2,800 yen and the tracklist is as follows:
01. 'Never say never' by Rin Shibuya
02. 'Anzu no Uta' by Futaba Anzu
03. 'Chocolat Tiara' by Kanako Mimura
04. 'DOKIDOKI Rhythm' by Rika Jougasaki
05. 'Tsubomi Yume Miru Rapsodia ~Alma no Michibiki~' by Ranko Kanzaki
06. 'Onedari Shall We~?' by Miku Maekawa
07. 'Marshmallow☆Kiss' by Kirari Moroboshi
08. 'S(mile)ING!' by Uzuki Shimamura
09. 'Twilight Sky' by Riina Tada
10. 'Mitsuboshi☆☆★' by Mio Honda
11. 'Romantic Now' by Miria Akagi
12. 'Venus Syndrome' by Minami Nitta
13. 'Kazeiro Melody' by Chieri Ogata
14. 'You’re stars shine on me' by Anastasia
15. 'Susume Otome ~jewel parade~' by CINDERELLA PROJECT (Bonus track)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on November 30, 2014, 05:27:00 PM
Tbh I'm glad it's onlyl 14. Can you imagine an anime focusing on 30+ girls? The original anime still had some girls get little to no focus with 14...

But I'm confused as to why Rika's in the main cast and Mika isn't. Mika's much more popular, for one.

I totally agree. My biggest concern when I saw promotional material was "30 main characters!? How this gonna work!?" and I am satisfied with only half being main characters. Plus the choices here are what one would expect.

Really? I heard Rika was the more popular one and I took that as the reason she's there. Plus, I think they want to have Mika be a veteran idol and Rika as a newcomer, since it looks like this is gonna be a "rising to the top" storyline like the first half of the 2011 anime was.

So, 346 is pronounced as 'mishiroku'. Not sure what that means. The new opening theme song is called 'Star!!', which is going to be debuted at the 2nd Cinderella Girls Live, PARTY M@GIC!! Live. It's written by Yuriko Mori and composed and arranged by Tanaka Hidekazu (MONACA).

In addition, set for release on January 21st, 2015, THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS ANIMATION PROJECT 00 ST@RTER BEST showcases songs from all members of CINDERELLA PROJECT along with a bonus track. It'll cost 2,800 yen and the tracklist is as follows:
01. 'Never say never' by Rin Shibuya
02. 'Anzu no Uta' by Futaba Anzu
03. 'Chocolat Tiara' by Kanako Mimura
04. 'DOKIDOKI Rhythm' by Rika Jougasaki
05. 'Tsubomi Yume Miru Rapsodia ~Alma no Michibiki~' by Ranko Kanzaki
06. 'Onedari Shall We~?' by Miku Maekawa
07. 'Marshmallow☆Kiss' by Kirari Moroboshi
08. 'S(mile)ING!' by Uzuki Shimamura
09. 'Twilight Sky' by Riina Tada
10. 'Mitsuboshi☆☆★' by Mio Honda
11. 'Romantic Now' by Miria Akagi
12. 'Venus Syndrome' by Minami Nitta
13. 'Kazeiro Melody' by Chieri Ogata
14. 'You’re stars shine on me' by Anastasia
15. 'Susume Otome ~jewel parade~' by CINDERELLA PROJECT (Bonus track)

Mishiroku Pro. I do wonder if this is gonna be the official production in the CG game. Also, first album being a compilation of the main girls' image songs makes sense for an introductory album. I just hope later albums give them new songs.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on November 30, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
Rika was initially a lot more popular, but in the 2nd and 3rd elections that's been reversed. I dunno why? And that does make sense. I was wondering if they would have senior idols, since Ryuguu Komachi was pretty plot important in the original.

I'm pretty happy with the main cast. Hopefully, this way they can do what the original anime did and have an episode for each idol... I'd love to learn more about Anya, honestly.

Also, I'm hoping that we do get some new songs. A lot of the seiyuu have improved a ton... Just compare Never Say Never to Sokyuu.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on November 30, 2014, 07:20:31 PM
Here's the link to the main website for the anime. (http://imas-cinderella.com/)

EDIT: Uh take that back. 346 is pronounced as 'Mishiro'. The kanji for it is "美城" meaning "Beautiful Castle".
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on November 30, 2014, 10:20:03 PM
Anya is appreciated, but the lack of Kaede is deeply disconcerting. It feels wrong.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on November 30, 2014, 10:22:17 PM
I'm really hoping that Kaede, Nana, and Sachiko pop in from time to time because I want to see their Antics.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on December 01, 2014, 12:20:44 AM
I found this from a message board:

Summary from interview with Aniplex producer:
-The show's story is focused on Mashiro Pro and the Cinderella Project
-Mashiro is a huge production company for which all the idols work.
-CG has a lot of girls so for the story to be more focused and less aimless they created the Cinderella Project to serve as main characters.
-But girls outside of Cinderella Project will have roles in the anime; family, mentors, friends, rivals... Nana and Mika are just a taste of all the girls that will appear.
-But they really had to narrow it down to 14 because the focus of Idolm@ster has always been character growth, specially since the main theme they're going for with Cinderella Girls is the Cinderella theme.
-346 = Mashiro = Beautiful Castle, and added to 765 it becomes 1111 which ties in with One for All
-The main focus of the story is growth and progress; it's about unknown girls aiming for stardom.
-For the main cast they're trying to expand the characters without losing sight of their heart. How many of these characters have siblings? How are their previously unrevealed family lives? What do they do when they aren't idoling? Things like that.
-They spend most of their time expanding on the characters and have a full document with all the little details.
-It takes place in the same world as the original anime (as shown in the movie ending) but 765 will probably not appear outside of maybe cameos.
-The first episode will be focused on explaining the setting and main characters.
-How were the Cinderella Project girls chosen? They're Noriko Takao's favorites (laughs). But really, they were picked because they had the most potential for growth because the drama and story of the show is about personal development.
-The New Generation girls are rather than main characters the vehicle for the audience; they're true rookies being introduced to the world of idoling. They're the center of the show but all 14 in Project Cinderella are the main characters.
-You don't need to have played the CG game or know the girls or even have seen the original anime to understand it. It's a show for everyone: fans and newcomers.
-Producer assures people that general elections or popularity don't influence anime plans. They won't make a girl stand out more just because she is popular.
-There are a lot of references and easter-eggs for game players but they're just that, they want everyone to be able to watch the anime.
-Lot of new songs, Sony Music and Columbia happy to cooperate.
-Watch the first three episodes to get a good idea of the world Noriko Takao has created.
-He seems pretty happy to say "Cinderella Girls is not a half-hearted work in any way; feel free to believe!"
-Live scenes will be similar to the old anime, minimal CG.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on December 01, 2014, 02:13:35 AM
Honestly I'm concerned at having a whole of 14. Back when Uzupaka was announced to be an official main character for the new series, it was supposed to be different in composition from the iM@S TV series in large part of this character focus. So I could understand if we had 3 main characters. But if we have 14, the anime turns into a warmed-up rehash. Sort of like GBF TRY is not any better than GBF.
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Post by: AkuAkane on December 01, 2014, 02:33:49 AM
I found this from a message board:

Summary from interview with Aniplex producer:
-The show's story is focused on Mashiro Pro and the Cinderella Project
-Mashiro is a huge production company for which all the idols work.
-CG has a lot of girls so for the story to be more focused and less aimless they created the Cinderella Project to serve as main characters.
-But girls outside of Cinderella Project will have roles in the anime; family, mentors, friends, rivals... Nana and Mika are just a taste of all the girls that will appear.
-But they really had to narrow it down to 14 because the focus of Idolm@ster has always been character growth, specially since the main theme they're going for with Cinderella Girls is the Cinderella theme.
-346 = Mashiro = Beautiful Castle, and added to 765 it becomes 1111 which ties in with One for All
-The main focus of the story is growth and progress; it's about unknown girls aiming for stardom.
-For the main cast they're trying to expand the characters without losing sight of their heart. How many of these characters have siblings? How are their previously unrevealed family lives? What do they do when they aren't idoling? Things like that.
-They spend most of their time expanding on the characters and have a full document with all the little details.
-It takes place in the same world as the original anime (as shown in the movie ending) but 765 will probably not appear outside of maybe cameos.
-The first episode will be focused on explaining the setting and main characters.
-How were the Cinderella Project girls chosen? They're Noriko Takao's favorites (laughs). But really, they were picked because they had the most potential for growth because the drama and story of the show is about personal development.
-The New Generation girls are rather than main characters the vehicle for the audience; they're true rookies being introduced to the world of idoling. They're the center of the show but all 14 in Project Cinderella are the main characters.
-You don't need to have played the CG game or know the girls or even have seen the original anime to understand it. It's a show for everyone: fans and newcomers.
-Producer assures people that general elections or popularity don't influence anime plans. They won't make a girl stand out more just because she is popular.
-There are a lot of references and easter-eggs for game players but they're just that, they want everyone to be able to watch the anime.
-Lot of new songs, Sony Music and Columbia happy to cooperate.
-Watch the first three episodes to get a good idea of the world Noriko Takao has created.
-He seems pretty happy to say "Cinderella Girls is not a half-hearted work in any way; feel free to believe!"
-Live scenes will be similar to the old anime, minimal CG.

Wow this has made me pretty excited actually. Sounds like the anime is going to be exactly what I hoped it would be.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on December 03, 2014, 01:56:00 PM
Awwww... kinda disappointed there's no Syoko or Mayu. In fact I was really looking forward to having them interact with each other, seeing how they're the two mentally unstable girls, and a 4-koma shows them becoming fast friends because of the Producer's desk.

Still... it's all good. I got my Ranko and Miku~nya!

Waiting for that special OVA bad end, where Mayu goes killing everyone and Koume is the last survivor. ;)

***EDIT***
I wonder if we'll get a new Producer-san in this show.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: AkuAkane on December 03, 2014, 02:37:04 PM
I'm glad Kirari and Mio will be main characters (although I honestly never even considered Mio not being a main character since it was always obvious that Mio, Uzuki, and Rin would basically be the new Miki, Haruka, and Chihaya focus-wise). Rika is pretty good as well. The rest I do not care about in the least. Honestly wish the cast was more to my liking, but I guess three characters I like being main characters is better than none or just Mio. Honestly the only other girls from the original set of 30 I cared about being in the anime were Mika and Akane so I still made out pretty well I suppose. Although I don't care much for Riina on her own I'm hoping for some Riina and Natsuki interaction since they're really adorable together and I like Natsuki a lot. Mio and Akane interaction would be awesome as well. I don't think I even need to hope for Jougasaki sister interaction since I think thats pretty much guaranteed to happen. Not looking forward to Miku or Anzu at all, but oh well.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on December 03, 2014, 03:23:14 PM
I guess whether or not you like this cast depends on which idols you like. I personally love this cast, but that's mainly because I love Mio, Ranko, Kanako, Minami, and Miria. I can understand if other people either dislike or don't care for this casting. I can expect others to show up occasionally, but not as much as the Cinderella Project. I still feel that cutting the main cast to this amount was a smart move on A-1's part because, like I said before, 30 main characters would be a colossal clusterf**k.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on December 03, 2014, 04:33:11 PM
Not looking forward to Miku or Anzu at all, but oh well.

Kinda surprised at that. Figured most Kirari fans liked Anzu, because of the comedic personality dynamics the duo enjoy together. These days it seems the two are inseparable.


I guess whether or not you like this cast depends on which idols you like. <snip> I still feel that cutting the main cast to this amount was a smart move on A-1's part because, like I said before, 30 main characters would be a colossal clusterf**k.

Agreed. I don't think fans will hate the show... just maybe a bit disappointed their favorites of the 30 voiced idols are not the mains. If you liked at least three or so girls, then there's a good chance at least one was chosen: A-1 picked a diverse group. If you're the type who only liked one girl... well... maybe you'll at least get to enjoy her "guest appearance" episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Clear Blue on January 09, 2015, 04:54:50 PM
First episode aired and it looks gorgeous!

I spy with my little eye...Jupiter!
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l591/Jennifer_Au/10931204_1526967474238854_9150124553831280462_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 09, 2015, 05:04:40 PM
^(Welcome back! Haven't seen you in a while...)

Looks like in addition to Mika, the other established idols are Airi, Akane, Koume, Mizuki, Kaede, Sachiko, Miho, and Mayu.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ed74b Here's the first episode OP...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on January 09, 2015, 06:38:47 PM
I watched this on Daisuki just now. I live in America and Daisuki is the official streaming site. What a pain. I accidentially tabbed out trying to take a screencap and had to restart from the beginning, but rewinding takes minutes (literally).

But the episode delivers everything I wanted. Not to spoil, but as promised by the PV, it focuses on recruiting Rin (who is my favourite).

Just a couple of small things

 - Rin's dog Hanako is... ugh. I expected a Shibu at least, if not a Husky. But anime Hanako is some kind of lap-terrier.

 - Rin only says half of her recruitment line. Sounds very much like the game, but there's no "maa, warukunai".

Watch it for yourself, it's great. A very different feeling from the iM@S TV 01 though. Back then, you saw Haruka riding her bicycle, and you knew that everything is going to be allright. It was so amazingly comforting, and artistic in a way. But iM@S CG 01 feels very traditional, anime-anime. Fortunately, one of less painful recruiting sequences (some of Love Live was quite eye-rolling).
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Post by: SakuraMaxX on January 09, 2015, 07:03:36 PM
- Rin's dog Hanako is... ugh. I expected a Shibu at least, if not a Husky. But anime Hanako is some kind of lap-terrier.

She's had that Yorkie since forever though

(http://cgdex.project-imas.com/cards/2400301.jpg)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 09, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
Judging from the OP, Kaede looks to be a central focus. I am content.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: liza94 on January 09, 2015, 07:27:58 PM
(http://cgdex.project-imas.com/cards/2400301.jpg)

I totally forgot about this card and expected Hanako to be bigger.

Derem@s has the best Producer! He is so similiar to Rin!  :)  I expect many funny situations involving them in the later episodes! :D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 09, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
That Rin card was like the first non-765 gacha SR iirc. Memories, memories.

Thoughts:
-Catching all the cameos in the opening and elsewhere was fun.
-It gave off a pretty different vibe than the original anime, kind of like how CG feels very different than ML.
-What's the use in including Mayu if she's not going to have a Producer to yandere over? That's... kind of the entire point of her character.
-Uzuki was ridiculously cute in this ep. Why did I ever hate her ???
-(Mild first five minutes spoilers) I love the new Producer, he's very distinct. A lot different than Akabane's Broducer.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 09, 2015, 08:33:05 PM
I really like what I saw, let alone enamored with Uzuki and Rin's handling. I've also enjoyed the Producer along with his subtle humor -- it's unlike what you'd expect of the norm, so that's more for characterization. As well, the visuals are sublime at that. Should they keep to this overall consistency, Cinderella Girls will only come to great things.

Still needs moar Anastasia, though. I need my hot white-haired half-Russian fix. :L
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Post by: MetalPredat0r on January 09, 2015, 09:15:20 PM
I have had VERY harsh feelings toward video game adaptations ever since BlazBlue Alter Memory absolutely pissed me off with it's horrid animation, terrible writing, and godawful telling of the original story...............and thankfully, I can say that Cinderella Girls had none of these problems.

I have to say I really enjoyed what I watched. It seems like they're taking their time and pacing the show pretty well by not bum rushing us with lots of things to take in, which is kinda what the 2011 anime did. The show feels like it's taking its time and that's helping me love the characters and setting even more.

I love the contrast that Rin and Uzuki have towards each other and they have a great dynamic with each other. The cameos were very welcomed and I was right that those not in the Cinderella Project would already be popular idols. And the Producer, I think I found my new favorite version of the character. He's so........awkward and yet it makes him a bit more charming that way. Very different from other Producers we've had, and I think that kinda helps him fit in with the girls.

All in all, I have faith in this show and eagerly cannot wait for the next episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: altuixde on January 09, 2015, 09:26:55 PM
I tried to watch this just now on www.daisuki.net but the video window is blank and the synopsis says "Coming soon." Does this mean that the video is coming soon or that the synopsis is coming soon? Right clicking in the blank video window shows that Flash Player has loaded. Was the first episode available to watch live and now there's a delay to watch it on demand?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 09, 2015, 09:28:17 PM
Here you go~. :3 (http://kissanime.com/Anime/The-iDOLM-STER-Cinderella-Girls/Episode-001?id=84472)

It seems like they're taking their time and pacing the show pretty well by not bum rushing us with lots of things to take in, which is kinda what the 2011 anime did. The show feels like it's taking its time and that's helping me love the characters and setting even more.

The initial bum rush with the former anime did seem warranted, though -- 1st/2nd vision was already a long-established franchise so it'd be prudent to start broadly for fans. At least with Cinderella Girls, things can go more a modest pace since most people are so accustomed to the original idols as is.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 09, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
My one complaint, if I had to dig for one, is that it felt a little slow getting Rin on the bus, but I'd rather have something a little slow than something super rushed. Or something like Love Live where it feels like they spend 4 years pulling a girl, kicking and screaming, into being an idol.

It's going to be inevitable that some characters are going to get the Takane treatment and get shoved to the side/treated as jokes (esp. when the CG girls are a lot quirkier than the 765 girls), and there's probably going to be a drama bomb later, but honestly? I've been super into CG ever since it came out, so I've been waiting excitedly for the anime... And this was the first episode I had hoped for. If it keeps on like this it may even surpass the original anime (which was good but had its glaring faults).

I also really digged the Nation Blue BGM arrange.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SakuraMaxX on January 09, 2015, 11:59:40 PM
I tried to watch this just now on www.daisuki.net but the video window is blank and the synopsis says "Coming soon." Does this mean that the video is coming soon or that the synopsis is coming soon? Right clicking in the blank video window shows that Flash Player has loaded. Was the first episode available to watch live and now there's a delay to watch it on demand?

Turn off your adblocker.  Daisuki breaks if you try to use it
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Elixir on January 10, 2015, 01:08:04 AM
I thought it was going to be terrible but it's actually pretty good.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: altuixde on January 10, 2015, 01:25:02 AM
I was able to watch the episode. It didn't blow me away, but it seems like a decent start to the series. Thanks for your help, DeviantProtagonist and SakuraMaxX!
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Post by: AkuAkane on January 10, 2015, 03:21:42 AM
First episode was good although I wanted more Mio. I like Rin and Uzuki more than I thought I would, though. I really liked the slow pace, they really made Uzuki and Rin shine. The new producer is alright, but so far at least I prefer the old producer. I'm pretty content with it right now overall. Also Rin's dog was super cute.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 10, 2015, 04:20:28 AM
Want to know something really funny people caught up on? There's a very, very brief animation error during the OP -- we've double-checked this so it's legit. Be aware that given the context it's NSFW, but it's one-in-a-thousand thing and flat-out ridiculous.

Lel. (http://oi60.tinypic.com/2ztglef.jpg)

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 10, 2015, 04:42:12 AM
MAYU NO!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Clear Blue on January 10, 2015, 07:42:10 AM
For those who still can't wat CG anime, try this one! (http://www.daisuki.net/anime/watch/TheIdolMasterCG/RUc) Comes with English subs!

First time watching...I don't really know what to expect. They did put a lot of detail into it, but this...
(http://i.imgur.com/QPqQTpQ.jpg)

was unexpected...totally didn't expect the Producer to look like that.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on January 10, 2015, 08:00:33 AM
Daisuki subs made me cringe. They probably didn't have long to write them, and had to be rushed out like what. Though at the very least, the sheer amount of times I heard ganbarimasu or yoroshiku onegaishimasu made me bang my head against the wall. Okay, not really, but you get the picture. Guh, I hate translating those line myself sometimes.

The episode itself did NOT suck, which I am thoroughly pleased with. I was afraid they'd go on a roller coaster introduction ride and get nothing accomplished, but they didn't. They kept their focus on all they could handle at once, and kept things pretty real. The comedy was pretty good, the in-jokes were great, the animation was gorgeous, the pacing... maybe slow, but still well-paced. It didn't seem like they were padding scenes just to make their 22 minutes, or that they were rushing through it.

Producer was great, and a refreshing take on all our usual P's. It's strange, but it's like he's Yukiho's big brother or something. He just poker faces while Yukiho freaks out.

... Come to think of it, how many episodes are there supposed to be of this?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Virgofall on January 10, 2015, 03:27:00 PM
Be aware that given the context it's NSFW
Lel. (http://oi60.tinypic.com/2ztglef.jpg)
Totally convinced this is intentional on Mayu's part. Seriously though, how2paintbucket

As someone who's pretty neutral-to-negative on the spinoffs, I'd say the first episode's doing okay. I'm not quite sure how to feel about our new producer yet, mostly because... well, he's very dead(pan). I'm either going to really love him or I'm going to really hate him. This is our first ep, though, so I refuse to pass judgement until a few more come to be.

On that note, since I know someone brought this up, I'm thinking that Mayu will probably be shown in interactions with a different producer (this company is practically a media giant, they can't have just one producer). One of the main girls is talking to this other guy, random Mayu appears and reveals herself as his idol, acts really creepy towards them, shenanigans.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SideM on January 11, 2015, 03:01:56 AM
I know nothing about Cinderella Girls, so this is my first time seeing the new idols and learning their names. I think the first episode did a good job of introducing the two of them. Like others said, it had a very slow and relaxed pace, so I didn't feel hard-pressed to learn 15 different names before the things starting happening. And I love the producer, his awkwardness was endearing. He probably has something up his sleeve. And he seems like the reserved kind that needs to be thrown into some crazy situations, and I'm pretty sure he will be.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Zhlink on January 11, 2015, 03:08:09 AM
I'm just hoping it doesn't turn into some repackaged version of the original idolmasters, but so far the first episode's feeling really nice. I don't know if that's just me or CG, but hopefully the latter.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on January 11, 2015, 07:38:27 PM
Fun Fact: locations in the anime are actually based on real-life Japanese locations, as point out in this SGCafe article.

http://sgcafe.com/2015/01/idolmster-fans-identify-real-life-locations-featured-cinderella-girls-first-episode/
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Post by: animagic4u on January 11, 2015, 11:13:09 PM
Speaking of which, there was a Twitter meme going on shortly after the episode aired where people would see actual products in the show (say for instance, Rin's pen) and then figure out the real product it was based on.
So it's also based off reality in general.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SakuraMaxX on January 11, 2015, 11:18:46 PM
Speaking of which, there was a Twitter meme going on shortly after the episode aired where people would see actual products in the show (say for instance, Rin's pen) and then figure out the real product it was based on.
So it's also based off reality in general.

(http://puu.sh/eobSn.jpg)
(http://puu.sh/eobYT.png)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: AkuAkane on January 12, 2015, 02:19:57 PM
Looks like the preview for the next episode of the anime has been posted on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McMb9GP71-k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McMb9GP71-k)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 12, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
I'm liking this new Producer as well. Considering how much eccentric and usual personality quirks are a major factor of each idol, the Producer being a stoic pokerface fellow should prove very interesting. He's more straight man than Rin! His subtle lack of people skills is really funny to.

I'm also rather amused how he seems more suited to be a FATE/Stay character. The deep voice... the imposing height... the badass suit. All he needs is insane hand to hand combat skills and a Servant. :P


-What's the use in including Mayu if she's not going to have a Producer to yandere over? That's... kind of the entire point of her character.

I don't think the fawning attention she'd throw on the Producer would be a problem. The "dere" is issue free.
The problem is the "yan" part. Character development for a yandere, is the process of eliminating her rivals and/or locking her love interest in a dungeon.
Mayu is perpetually locked on the line between insane obsession and murder spree. She can't cross into the blood rage, because that's not what iM@S is about... nor can she lose her love craziness. So Mayu is development frozen to maintain her appeal and not shake the status quo. She'd be fun for an episode or two... but then would get old pretty fast, if there's no actual violence (which is part of the yan-mode appeal).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on January 14, 2015, 09:21:23 PM
Introducing Producer's CV. (http://zakitakubu.com/2015/01/10/the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-producers-voice-actor-is-17-years-old/)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 14, 2015, 09:46:46 PM
Relevant to our new CV's upcoming;

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2ewcw0h.jpg)

"It's your turn, next Producer!"
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tafira on January 15, 2015, 01:23:16 AM
Though at the very least, the sheer amount of times I heard ganbarimasu or yoroshiku onegaishimasu made me bang my head against the wall. Okay, not really, but you get the picture.

This. I started counting after the 2nd time Uzuki said 'ganbarimasu!'.  It's a funny character quirk though.
I'm not too familiar with the CG series as a whole, but I'm interested in how this will turn out. The more IM@S the better!
I do wonder why Mio was literally crammed in the last 5 seconds.
But, the contrast between Rin and Uzuki made me chuckle inside - as well as the different take on Producer-san.

(However I wonder how many times he is going to say 'egao desu'?)

How are you guys watching it? I was going to wait for Daisuki subs, but I got impatient and torrented a 720p version.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on January 15, 2015, 01:25:41 AM
This. I started counting after the 2nd time Uzuki said 'ganbarimasu!'.  It's a funny character quirk though.
I'm not too familiar with the CG series as a whole, but I'm interested in how this will turn out. The more IM@S the better!
I do wonder why Mio was literally crammed in the last 5 seconds.
But, the contrast between Rin and Uzuki made me chuckle inside - as well as the different take on Producer-san.

(However I wonder how many times he is going to say 'egao desu'?)

How are you guys watching it? I was going to wait for Daisuki subs, but I got impatient and torrented a 720p version.

I'm watching it via a website called masterani.me, since the Daisuki subs require I turn off my adblocker. Doesn't help that I saw Episode 1 at school where ads are ALWAYS blocked. :p
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 16, 2015, 10:10:23 PM
Second episode introduced the remaining 11 idols... lots of CG cameos... with an extended one for Nana Abe and Mika Jougasaki.

Looks like we got the official OP sequence.

No one translated Ranko-speak for the audience.  :P

There was a key moment in the second episode (an interaction between him and Kaede Takagaki), that confirmed the Producer does not manage (or has been introduced to) all 200+ CG idols. The other (non-main 14) idols seem to have different Producers. Makes sense, given that 346 Pro is presented as a MASSIVE entertainment corporation. He shouldn't be the only person responsible for hundreds.

Loved how they hinted at the possible character development for the Producer. The idols wanted him to join in with a group photo, but he declined... could just be the whole professionalism angle (the photographer didn't seem to mind taking one shot like that though)... but I like to think the show will reveal how how the idols change him for the better, as he changes their lives.

Oh! Veteran Trainer has a VA now... though I didn't see her name in the credits.

Love me some Chihiro Senkawa! Needs moar Chihiro Senkawa!! Can never have enough Chihiro Senkawa!!!

***EDIT***
Just realized that Mika Jougasaki got an intro like the other 14 main idols (her name shown in gold text; other idols like Nana Abe didn't get that treatment), and she's featured in the OP sequence.
She may not be one of the Producer's idols, but I think we're going to see a lot of her this season.

I'm hoping we might get to see what Staff-san looks like in the anime.  8)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SakuraMaxX on January 16, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
I'm really glad that Haruna Kamijo has a voice now, and that this is her seiyuu's first job.  Glad to see more people getting their careers started/springboarded by iM@S
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 16, 2015, 10:58:44 PM
And so came the bum-rush. It did have quite a thorough lead-in, I've to say. Lets you digest the overall scale of 346 Pro.

But more importantly, whilst I found myself gushing over Anya, that one bit with Kaede pretty much had me like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKW5JyzTc7Y).

I'm hopeless, aren't I? :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: altuixde on January 17, 2015, 12:00:36 AM
Uzuki sounds soo much like Haruka. Familiarity is good, but so is originality novelty. ::)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 17, 2015, 01:34:08 AM
The trainer sisters have a naming pattern going.

Aoki Rei = Master Trainer
Aoki Sei = Veteran Trainer
Aoki Kei = Rookie Trainer

Looks like only Trainer is without an official name yet... but given the revelation of her siblings, anyone see the connection of the three given so far, to guess what the fourth might be?
Is it somehow connect to seasons maybe? Master's birthdate is in the winter, Veteran's is in the fall, and Rookie's is the spring... Trainer is the summer. Maybe she's going to be, Mei?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on January 17, 2015, 05:34:22 AM
I've been giving it some thought: Was the ending scenario too forced?

Mika chose only the NG trio to backup her next live. I've been seeing reactions of this being way too forced and that this is all just A-1 trying to push NG into the spotlight and ignoring everyone else.

I will agree that something as big as this for the first three episodes is WAY too soon and raises a slight red flag in my eyes as this might mean that anyone who isn't New Generation isn't going to get as much importance, but it's still a bit too soon to tell.

Any thoughts? Cuz Episode 2 was okay for me except for that ending which leaves me extremely conflicted.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: altuixde on January 17, 2015, 06:02:50 AM
I think the ending scenario was a little forced, but not distractingly so.

Personally, I'm worried that Rin, Uzuki and Mio are going to fail during this opportunity, because it's way too early in the series for them to attain great success.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 18, 2015, 05:57:06 AM
Hmmm... thinking on it, I disagree.

My reasoning for this: from the background chatter in the episode, it seems the Cinderella Project had been on hold for awhile.  To prove they have the talent and drive... as well as prove the Producer is as incredible scout for talent as he's supposed to be portrayed... Rin, Mio, and Uzuki need to hit the ground running. The fact that the trio were able to successfully pull off their PR shots, though it took a second try because of their nervousness, shows they've got the goods. The other 11 idols are insinuated to have done better... but they're also insinuated to have been with the company longer (and it might have not been their first PR shoot).

Basically they've been given a huge challenge... if they pass it, it will go a long way in furthering their futures... if they fail, it would be an excellent test of how they improve to never repeat the mistake or can handle the stress of failure.

Lots of high risk jobs do this kind of "in the crucible" type training -- the military, hospitals, and air traffic control for example. Being an idol, doesn't put lives in dangers... so it them having to do it isn't unrealistic. If you wanna be the best, you work like the best. 346 Pro doesn't strike me as a company that wants average (considering their like the settings version of an idol megacorp). Pushing the girls like this will prove if they deserve to be a Cinderella Girl.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on January 19, 2015, 02:30:59 AM
I've been giving it some thought: Was the ending scenario too forced?

Mika chose only the NG trio to backup her next live. I've been seeing reactions of this being way too forced and that this is all just A-1 trying to push NG into the spotlight and ignoring everyone else.

I thought it was quite odd. One explanation that I see is that Mika saw something in the new three that wasn't present in the existing stable. She had an opportunity to evaluate them during the photoshoot. However, the anime made no effort to explain what it was, if anything. It just happened.

If we look at, for instances, AKB0048, things like that were the norm. Understudies were often promoted out of order, when they demonstrated readiness. But it wasn't upon one look.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on January 19, 2015, 06:53:31 PM
Here's the preview for Episode 3. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bXamSw7ehs)

And already, card costume camoes (Mika's are new though) and Rookie Trainer is going to have a voice  :P.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 19, 2015, 11:37:19 PM
Here's the preview for Episode 3. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bXamSw7ehs)

*squee* Mayu has those, I'm gonna kill every last one of you and no one will ever find the bodies, look in her eyes! How can anyone resist such loveliness?

Sachiko narration for the win!  8)

***EDIT***
They're really not wasting anytime getting those non-idol support characters more exposure.

Please give us some Staff-san! It would be really great to put a voice/face to the name.  :)

On a side note... I'm hoping he's featured in the next batch of Master CD drama tracks. That's really the only time he gets to shine, and it kinda bothered me the Producer substituted him in the last set... though I suppose for Mayu it was kinda mandatory.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 24, 2015, 01:39:43 AM
For those who felt the New Generation idols were being rushed and/or not ready for the stage, Episode 3 was definitely made for you. Rin's innate talents as an idol even made the Producer shocked for a moment.

Me? I squealed like a girl when Ranko showed up. Looks like Kirari understands Ranko-speak.

Also... poor Anzu. I knew Kirari treats her like a toy, but seeing it animated -- with Anzu's frustrated expression and laziness to not do anything about it -- made me feel a little more sorry for her.

Anya and Miku fans should be happy about their girls getting some lines this episode.

What really caught me by surprise this episode... the Producer visibly expressed an emotion!!!!

***EDIT***
On another note... I REALLY like the Image Songs when they have a "live audience" participating in them. I hope they have lots more of them.

The clock ticking one minute closer to midnight was an AWESOME reference to the original Cinderella story, and symbolism that the girls are one step closer to fulfilling their dreams.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 24, 2015, 01:46:12 AM
Welp, so much for sleeping tonight. (http://oi61.tinypic.com/25ztdf5.jpg)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 24, 2015, 02:49:43 AM
Welp, so much for sleeping tonight. (http://oi61.tinypic.com/25ztdf5.jpg)
At least the concert scene looked nice.

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/7a0a7dc77150b32861603d170142cc9e/tumblr_nincr57WCz1r3rdh2o1_500.gif)

The rest... Well...

Thoughts:
-I kept pausing during the scene in the costume room to try and get all the costume cameos.
-It seems to be moving a bit faster than animemas. Actually, scratch that... Episode 3 of animemas had a concert and stuff.
-The CG is really well integrated. I didn't actually notice it until I watched the concert again.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 25, 2015, 06:17:41 AM
I'm actually partial of some CG, so long as they don't overdue it like the movie's Kana-Haruka junkfood scene. It really can bring out fluidity; case in point, the concert above. That being said, here's hoping they'll fix up the comparatively sub-par visuals come the blu-ray releases. Not to mention Mayu's wardrobe malfunction. :U

But reflecting more on episode 3 outside of the fanservice spectrum -- and for the emphasis they put on her development -- I really enjoyed Anya's meek, yet earnest outlook which the latter came to be inspirited by Minami. I like that supportive chemistry. Conversely? Anzu remains the literal radgoll. :P

Also...

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/0088e3eb53c000bb26d78a90a3c8dd6e/tumblr_nio8yxFzu61rw3w54o1_250.gif)(http://38.media.tumblr.com/3d0f3c4028accae91be8eedb43ada3ff/tumblr_nio8yxFzu61rw3w54o2_250.gif)

Quite the darling, you. Bring on the character episode, already~.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: AkuAkane on January 25, 2015, 06:42:01 AM
I'm actually partial of some CG, so long as they don't overdue it like the movie's Kana-Haruka junkfood scene. It really can bring out fluidity; case in point, the concert above. That being said, here's hoping they'll fix up the comparatively sub-par visuals come the blu-ray releases. Not to mention Mayu's wardrobe malfunction. :U

But reflecting more on episode 3 outside of the fanservice spectrum -- and for the emphasis they put on her development -- I really enjoyed Anya's meek, yet earnest outlook which the latter came to be inspirited by Minami. I like that supportive chemistry. Conversely? Anzu remains the literal radgoll. :P

Also...

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/0088e3eb53c000bb26d78a90a3c8dd6e/tumblr_nio8yxFzu61rw3w54o1_250.gif)(http://38.media.tumblr.com/3d0f3c4028accae91be8eedb43ada3ff/tumblr_nio8yxFzu61rw3w54o2_250.gif)

Quite the darling, you. Bring on the character episode, already~.

The Kana and Haruka scene in the movie looked so weird because it was rotoscoped, not because it was CG. Anya was pretty cute. I'm not bothered by Anzu's "ragdoll status" since she is by far my least favorite Cinderella Girls character. The less she speaks/does things the better; for me anyway.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 25, 2015, 07:26:44 AM
I don't know, I'd rather be partial with Anzu gaining a personal episode just by the virtue of finding something redeemable about her. Slightly, even; it wouldn't be a good reflection on the series' overall character development, otherwise.

But given the girl's archetype, it's hardly looking grandiose -- it's looking plain "Anzu" right now. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Virgofall on January 25, 2015, 05:26:04 PM
I don't know, I'd rather be partial with Anzu gaining a personal episode just by the virtue of finding something redeemable about her. Slightly, even; it wouldn't be a good reflection on the series' overall character development, otherwise.
Pretty much how I'm feeling about it. I'm treating this series as a "give me reasons why I should like these characters/be interested in CG," and if they specifically chose the characters they did for their development opportunities, then I hope to see actual development, including for the characters I dislike.

I actually liked Rika's appearances a lot more than I expected I would.
Miku, though... granted, I've never played the game but she really comes off badly to me so far. For those who have, are those sore-losing recations normal for her?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 25, 2015, 05:48:52 PM
The only CG in the concert scene was the stage itself at some parts, so they're basically 2D animations dancing on a CG stage. Of course, that's not what you're focusing on- you're focusing on the dancers- so most people aren't going to see it or care. Compare the terrible CG during MASTERPIECE in the movie. Or even Love Live, which I love... But they look like soulless mannequins most of the time.

The iffy animation during the rest of the episode didn't bother me much at all, honestly. It was good for a chuckle or two but it wasn't terrible.

Speaking of Anzu, I'm sure she'll get her episode, but it'll just be a joke episode or barely focused on her, like Iori's. She's a lot more vocal in game, though. She does a lot of complaining instead of just dangling or flopping around.

And Miku... It's been literally years since I played the tutorial, but I don't remember her being as tsundere pre-recruitment? Sachiko is definitely the sore loser of the rivals. She's more... It's hard to explain, but she's more of a tease towards the producer. But she's not interacting with other girls in her lines, so.

I'm very happy with all this Anya. She's my fave CG so I'm faithfully looking forward to her episode~
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on January 25, 2015, 05:54:40 PM
I hope they at least TRY to give every character some sort of spotlight and development in their respective episode. One of the biggest problems with the 2011 anime for me was that some characters got completely shafted in their own episode (looking at you, Episode 16) and it felt like not everybody got their time to shine. I hope they learned their lesson here and give each character at least SOMETHING. Who knows, maybe Anzu might have more to her than "lazy loli".

Also, I don't know why, but Anya and Minami work pretty well together. Maybe it's the whole "big sis/foreigner" match-up they have that just works so well.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on January 25, 2015, 06:42:16 PM
Does anyone know who voiced Rookie Trainer from episode 3?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: chaos176 on January 25, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Does anyone know who voiced Rookie Trainer from episode 3?

according to the fever Friday night page and the wiki. It's Fujimura Ayumi, the same VA that do Veteran Trainer voice.
 
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on January 26, 2015, 05:53:33 AM
I hope they at least TRY to give every character some sort of spotlight and development in their respective episode. One of the biggest problems with the 2011 anime for me was that some characters got completely shafted in their own episode (looking at you, Episode 16) and it felt like not everybody got their time to shine. I hope they learned their lesson here and give each character at least SOMETHING. Who knows, maybe Anzu might have more to her than "lazy loli".

They might save on time and go for an An-kira episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Naryoril on January 26, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
I'm treating this series as a "give me reasons why I should like these characters/be interested in CG," and if they specifically chose the characters they did for their development opportunities, then I hope to see actual development, including for the characters I dislike.

I feel the same way. So far a lot of the characters feel like gimmicky one-trick-ponies to me, with rather strange tricks at that...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Zhlink on January 26, 2015, 11:21:39 AM
I feel the same way. So far a lot of the characters feel like gimmicky one-trick-ponies to me, with rather strange tricks at that...
I think that's kinda the point of the game; having each character have one particular quirk and letting others choose from the bunch-
But at least now that they're in the anime, there's lesser characters to focus on? Hopefully it gives them some space to flesh out the characters.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Naryoril on January 26, 2015, 11:57:05 AM
I think that's kinda the point of the game; having each character have one particular quirk and letting others choose from the bunch-
But at least now that they're in the anime, there's lesser characters to focus on? Hopefully it gives them some space to flesh out the characters.

That might work in a simple card game, but it doesn't really work in an anime imo. I really hope they flesh them out, otherwise all they'll do is dragging the anime down.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 26, 2015, 01:30:56 PM
Miku, though... granted, I've never played the game but she really comes off badly to me so far. For those who have, are those sore-losing recations normal for her?

Miku can become confrontational and rebellious when she doesn't get her way. The best example being her Master Collection drama track. I don't think any other idol got away with abusing/ignoring Staff-san that much, without getting pulled off the air or punishment trolling.

Isn't extreme stubbornness a stereotypical trait of house cats?



Sachiko is definitely the sore loser of the rivals. She's more... It's hard to explain, but she's more of a tease towards the producer.

Sachiko is egotistical and has a scathing tongue when talking with others. Sometimes she can be a "stealth insult-er", using nice words when describing something/someone, but with a ugly hidden meaning. On the flip side, she will sometimes use insulting words, but actually be praising you (mostly applies the Producer; there's some tsundre in her). The key factor is Sachiko never lowers herself, or raises another person's status above her. She's always the Queen Bee in her little universe. The more Sachiko likes you, the more Sachiko will let you bask in her presence and praise her.  To Sachiko, that's the best honor anyone else can have... because no one else can ever be as great as Sachiko. Whenever she screws up, she always makes up excuses or justifications why it wasn't really her fault.

There are of course, curve balls in her character development though. For example she's very nice to younger children, has a strong sense of repaying debts, and karma that always bites her in the ass.

If I was forced to pick the "sorest loser" personality among the CG's... IMHO it would be Reina Koseki (she'll prank you for revenge)... or maybe Mayu under specific circumstances (that yandere jealousy of hers).



Also, I don't know why, but Anya and Minami work pretty well together. Maybe it's the whole "big sis/foreigner" match-up they have that just works so well.

Call it bias, but I think Anya + Ranko works together, being that Anya tends to mimic other idols under the false impression it's "ordinary Japanese behavior" she should try to adapt, and Ranko is one of the last persons anyone should think is normal. Plus given the "language barrier" Anya suffers from, she will probably never fully decipher Ranko-speak. So much gold comedic potential lies there. :)



according to the fever Friday night page and the wiki. It's Fujimura Ayumi, the same VA that do Veteran Trainer voice.

All four Trainers will have the same VA. It's all part of their character trait of being so physically alike. The four could have passed for quadruplets, if they weren't born in different years.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: animagic4u on January 26, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
So far, I'm impressed with the pacing and the animation. Everything in this anime seems to have such glitz and sparkle!
I'm really loving everything about it! Watch out, KanColle, you got a heavy competitor this season!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 26, 2015, 05:46:53 PM
I actually meant Miku was the tease, but yeah :0 Miku's super fickle too.

Next episode preview. Featuring the Cool idols, a camcorder, and Mizuki and Akane chatting about the next concert (which leads Akane to start preparing for it RIGHT NOW!!!!)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZO5xsh5EYg
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on January 26, 2015, 06:50:24 PM
Next episode preview. Featuring the Cool idols, a camcorder, and Mizuki and Akane chatting about the next concert (which leads Akane to start preparing for it RIGHT NOW!!!!)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZO5xsh5EYg

This is looking like a very casual episode. Makes sense as a break from all the concerts and introductions. Can't wait!
Though from the looks of it, maybe the next few episodes are gonna group everyone by types? Which is nice. Can't wait to see more Anya and Minami,.

Watch out, KanColle, you got a heavy competitor this season!

... Not like that's hard to do. *shot*
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on January 27, 2015, 07:16:28 AM
Aww, man, the 03. I learned to make peace with the whole "Anya" thing, but remembering that it's the Japanese who came up with it, so shkata ga nai yo dawg. But how that they make Anastasiya use Russian first and then re-say things is just utterly unbearable. Nobody does that. It's retarded. Poor Sumipe has to voice it all out. I hope she's paid well enough.

Did anyone notice that animation goes really broken all the time, especially in the faces? In some places the distance between eyes changes. CG, hah. I wish it were CG, at least the computer would render the model correctly and consistently. Well, actually, I don't. I hate CG. Still, with result like that, no wonder CG is advancing.

On the upside, the "night before battle" sequence was masterful. A very good episode in other parts as well. But I had to turn volume way down when Anya was speaking, just to prevent myself from puking. Hopefuly it's just the tri-lingual immigrant thing and Japanese viewers didn't even notice anything amiss.

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: animagic4u on January 27, 2015, 09:28:08 PM
But how that they make Anastasiya use Russian first and then re-say things is just utterly unbearable. Nobody does that. It's retarded. Poor Sumipe has to voice it all out. I hope she's paid well enough.

Did anyone notice that animation goes really broken all the time, especially in the faces? In some places the distance between eyes changes. CG, hah. I wish it were CG, at least the computer would render the model correctly and consistently. Well, actually, I don't. I hate CG. Still, with result like that, no wonder CG is advancing.

I can't stand how she re-says things. It's so stupid. Literally no one does that.

As for their faces, simply put, we must go wider. We won't stop until it's Madoka level wide.
Watch Expelled from Paradise for good anime CG wwww
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on January 27, 2015, 11:13:52 PM
But how that they make Anastasiya use Russian first and then re-say things is just utterly unbearable. Nobody does that. It's retarded. Poor Sumipe has to voice it all out. I hope she's paid well enough.

Did anyone notice that animation goes really broken all the time, especially in the faces? In some places the distance between eyes changes. CG, hah. I wish it were CG, at least the computer would render the model correctly and consistently. Well, actually, I don't. I hate CG. Still, with result like that, no wonder CG is advancing.

I can't stand how she re-says things. It's so stupid. Literally no one does that.

As for their faces, simply put, we must go wider. We won't stop until it's Madoka level wide.

..... Really? I never found that to be an issue for three reasons.

1. I actually DO know people that tend to do that. In fact, quite a number of people in my culture do this.

2. Anya is learning Japanese. It does make sense for her to say a phrase she wants to translate and then say it in Japanese. In fact, she asks NG and Minami if her Japanese is fine.

3. Its probably for the Japanese audience, since I'm pretty sure not a lot of Japanese people know the Russian language and Anya might be a character that can open up spme audiences to a new language.

As for CGI, keep that away from my iM@S, please. A-1 at least has the decency to legitimately hand-draw their dance sequences entirely unlike other anime I've seen with lots of motion that resort to CGI (*cough*LoveLive*cough*KanColle*cough*).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Logan on January 28, 2015, 01:06:11 AM
I'm probably going to keep watching it anyway, but the animation / art really bothers me. The inconsistencies in animation are really glaring and remind me of the new Sailor Moon's messiness.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on January 28, 2015, 03:43:54 AM
I'm probably going to keep watching it anyway, but the animation / art really bothers me. The inconsistencies in animation are really glaring and remind me of the new Sailor Moon's messiness.

... Sailor Moon has it worse. Much worse. Episode 3 doesn't even come close.

I can't stand how she re-says things. It's so stupid. Literally no one does that.

The reason it's awkward (to me) is it comes across like she forgets she has to speak Japanese in Japan. If it came across like she were thinking out loud to herself, it wouldn't feel so unnatural.

If she said some quick things in Russian where you could figure out what she was saying without a translation, that would be okay too. You ask her a question, she nods and says, "Da." She walks into a room, waves, and says... whatever hello is in Russian. You don't need a translation for that, most people can figure it out without being told.

By the way, I've decided I don't like Daisuki subs.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: AkuAkane on January 28, 2015, 08:02:30 AM
I can't stand how she re-says things. It's so stupid. Literally no one does that.

As for their faces, simply put, we must go wider. We won't stop until it's Madoka level wide.
Watch Expelled from Paradise for good anime CG wwww

I have two friends from Saudi Arabia and when I first met them and they were less fluent with English than they are now and they used to accidentally say things in arabic and then re-say them in english. In fact they still do it from time to time, but not as much. So you can't really say "literally no one does that".
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on January 29, 2015, 02:02:07 AM
I have two friends from Saudi Arabia and when I first met them and they were less fluent with English than they are now and they used to accidentally say things in arabic and then re-say them in english. In fact they still do it from time to time, but not as much. So you can't really say "literally no one does that".

I can see that happening when a person is put on the spot, but Anya literally has several seconds at least before every such occurence. And certainly not when stock phrases are involved.

I know that I degenerate to Russian in places, but only if I'm dead tired or under some other duress.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on January 31, 2015, 12:27:43 AM
Episode 4 proves an undeniable proof: Ranko is love.

RANKO IS LOVE!!!

Minami partially understands Ranko-speak! And Mio reveals her nickname for our favorite gothic idol. Huzzah!

Anya with pompoms was absolutely adorable. Classic Anzu tricking the others to leave the room and locking the door.

Yet again, the Producer showed emotion. He gave a slight chuckle at the New Generation realizing they forgot to film themselves.
I think there's more to him being so stoic than the surface reveals. It's like something in the past made him become so emotionless...

Also... never enough Chihiro Senkawa.

Kinda bothered this series is being treated more like New Generation the Anime, more than an actual Cinderella Girls. Maybe next episode will break away from them, and focus on Minami and Anastasia being an official unit. Not saying I don't like the NG's... I really do... but the show should really start giving us more of the others.

Especially Ranko. MOAR RANKO PLZ!!!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on January 31, 2015, 12:50:19 AM
I'm surprised at how charming the NG trio is, honestly. Especially since I really disliked them initially.

My one complaint is that they're kind of. Just getting everything super easily? I guess the 765 girls had CDS out and were giving concerts before the anime even started (Haruka handing out Taiyou no Jealousy and Chihaya having a tiny concert), but...

Overall, this was kind of a filler episode, but it was a filler episode worth watching. I actually laughed out loud at Anzu scurrying away from Kirari during the Kirazilla moment. And Anya's adorable as ever. I was kind of bummed that there wasn't an insert song or special ending like the 2011 anime did, but whatever.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on January 31, 2015, 06:58:32 AM
Personally I can't wait for the character-focused episodes to come out. I honestly loved them in the original iM@S anime even if the character balance was pretty off.
Also the new producer is awesome, so glad they went with him =P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on January 31, 2015, 01:56:00 PM
Emphasis to Russian pompoms:

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/38e21904100150639e1230b7651dc503/tumblr_nfy16jHKIP1r41iwko1_500.gif)

"I'm Anastasia. Papa is Russian and Mama is Japanese. I like looking at the stars."

God, this heart of mine sometimes. Proposed lingual fallacies be damned, it's 911 right on speed dial for me~.

I actually laughed out loud at Anzu scurrying away from Kirari during the Kirazilla moment.

Anzu wouldn't last a day in the norm, especially having went as far as locking everyone out afterwards. How the hell did she get scouted, anyway? As an aside, fillers are good for character development so it's a way to ease things down, namely with the amount of jobs the NG trio happens to get. But more to the upside, Anya-Minami duo unit!

Episode 4 proves an undeniable proof: Ranko is love.

... Ranko is life? :P

She definitely had exposure this time around -- those theatrics pretty much leave Takane to shame. Now I'm half-expecting her to don a frogsuit, given the Godzilla thing. :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: animagic4u on February 01, 2015, 10:18:09 PM
CG does a wonderful job of showing not telling so far and the anime feels like an actual idol anime. Not meaningless substories shoved in our faces about what certain characters are supposed to be like. anim@s, you're guilty and you know it

I like it.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on February 02, 2015, 09:13:28 AM
Still felt a little whirlwindy to me, trying to introduce a bunch of characters (again), but it looks like character episodes are next.

I'm a little afraid they chose too many characters to focus on, but then it's Cinderella Girls. If they've got 14 idols in the foreground, I'd want this to be a 26 episode series...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: liza94 on February 02, 2015, 02:08:45 PM
With each passing episode it feels more and more like NG anime where all other characters (including the Producer) are simply background! :( >:(  In addition I have a feeling that Minami and Anastasia won't get their separate episodes because they are an unit! :(

Not meaningless substories shoved in our faces about what certain characters are supposed to be like.

No one's story was meaningless! "Certain characters"? Whom do you mean?

If they've got 14 idols in the foreground, I'd want this to be a 26 episode series...

D-Don't tell me it may have only 12-13 episodes!  :o  Th-This is not an option! 13-episode format will kill Derem@s!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SideM on February 02, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
This episode gave me another chance to learn their names, so I liked that.

tbh I expected Rika's voice to sound something more like Akane's
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 02, 2015, 03:24:44 PM
With each passing episode it feels more and more like NG anime where all other characters (including the Producer) are simply background! :( >:(  In addition I have a feeling that Minami and Anastasia won't get their separate episodes because they are an unit! :(

Its a trend in iM@S where the main trio upstages everyone else in anime. Namassuka did this too where they got the bulk of Anim@s' storytelling whereas everyone else wpuld wish they had such glorious screentime. At the very least, the characters in the sidelines are doing more here than in Anim@s so far.

No one's story was meaningless! "Certain characters"? Whom do you mean?

Technically, Hibiki didn't get an episode in EP16, due to being hijacked by Kuroi.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on February 02, 2015, 04:02:10 PM
I thought Hibiki's episode was okay, and actually focused on her... As opposed to Iori, who didn't really get an episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 02, 2015, 04:20:34 PM
I do have a feeling that each character focus epispde is gonna have at least one NG Girl in there, but the focus won't be on them, since NG are meant to be the surrogate characters, like Producer in anim@s. Like, NG is in EP5, but I feel that Minami and Anastasia are gonna be the main focus of the episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: altuixde on February 02, 2015, 05:37:36 PM
... As opposed to Iori, who didn't really get an episode.

I was surprised that episode 2 of anim@s was Iori's (as indicated by the end credits). At first, I thought that the character episodes had started with episode 3. At least Iori got a significant role during Yayoi's episode, though.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 02, 2015, 08:15:25 PM
Here's the preview of Episode 5 featuring Koume and Ranko. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPONCqM9k6w)

EDIT: Thanks for the corrections Nargrakhan.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on February 03, 2015, 01:18:27 AM
Here's the preview of Episode 5 featuring Chieri and Ranko. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPONCqM9k6w)

Actually it's Koume Shirasaka and Ranko giving the voice over. When paired together, Idolmaster really gets a "gothic" vibe.

I've always been interested in hearing them paired together to perform a suitably dark and spooky duet song.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 06, 2015, 05:46:29 PM
Looks like Aki, Shizuku, and Sanae are voiced according to the wiki. (I didn't watch episode 5 yet, so...)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on February 06, 2015, 06:10:53 PM
I think I'm more excited for Love Laika's song than I am for NG's. The little preview sounded really nice. Also, they actually addressed NG Trio getting what the other girls have been working for for ages, something that's been bugging me the past couple of eps, and made it the main source of conflict in the ep...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on February 06, 2015, 07:25:46 PM
Looks like... Shizuku... voiced according to the wiki.

Listen.

You hear that?

It's the sound of "IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME" screaming across the universe.

The greatest set of Moo♪ in iM@S history now has a voice.

You've uncorked the oppai genie Namco Bandai... where's that Master CD!?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on February 06, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
Shizuku was due for a voice tbh. Love Laika's song sounds ultimately better than NG's song tho

I heard somewhere that Natsuki Kimura will be getting a voice soon? MAYBE? HOPEFULLY?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on February 06, 2015, 09:59:46 PM
Hooray for voiced idols! Although, it makes me wonder about the criteria Scamco is using to choose who to voice. Sanae and Shizuku I can understand, but Aki has never ranked in an election before.. I have no problem with her, it's just odd that she was chosen.

I heard somewhere that Natsuki Kimura will be getting a voice soon? MAYBE? HOPEFULLY?

Story wise, that would make sense. The anime website still continues to display her as voiceless though, and Natsuki also has never ranked in an election either. Only time will tell, I guess. The idols below are the unvoiced ones who have ranked at least once in an election. They have a better chance than most to be voiced.

Hajime Fujiwara, Takumi Mukai, Yui Ohtsuki, Kyoko Igarashi, Momoka Sakurai, Yumi Aiba, Kako Takafuji, Syuko Shiomi, Noa Takamine, Nono Morikubo, Mirei Hayasaka, Yukimi Sajo, Miyu Mifune, Hinako Kita, Yume Narumiya, Tomoe Murakami, Shinobu Kudo, Natalia, Eve Santaclaus, Yuzu Kitami, Ayame Hamaguchi, Shiki Ichinose, Asuka Ninomiya, Haru Yuuki, Hina Araki, and Yoshino Yorita.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on February 06, 2015, 10:27:03 PM
Hooray for voiced idols! Although, it makes me wonder about the criteria Scamco is using to choose who to voice. Sanae and Shizuku I can understand, but Aki has never ranked in an election before.. I have no problem with her, it's just odd that she was chosen.

Story wise, that would make sense. The anime website still continues to display her as voiceless though, and Natsuki also has never ranked in an election either. Only time will tell, I guess. The idols below are the unvoiced ones who have ranked at least once in an election. They have a better chance than most to be voiced.

Hajime Fujiwara, Takumi Mukai, Yui Ohtsuki, Kyoko Igarashi, Momoka Sakurai, Yumi Aiba, Kako Takafuji, Syuko Shiomi, Noa Takamine, Nono Morikubo, Mirei Hayasaka, Yukimi Sajo, Miyu Mifune, Hinako Kita, Yume Narumiya, Tomoe Murakami, Shinobu Kudo, Natalia, Eve Santaclaus, Yuzu Kitami, Ayame Hamaguchi, Shiki Ichinose, Asuka Ninomiya, Haru Yuuki, Hina Araki, and Yoshino Yorita.

This is true! But I'm saying because someone said someone got into the directors notes or whatever and they had a cv ready for natsuki. here's what the post said "someone looked into the developers tools for the cg anime site and theres a cv section ready for natsuki kimura"  I mean it would make a lot of sense because Riina is really close to Natsuki and there would be open space for if Riina gets an episode around her that she may meet Natsuki (honestly she probably already knows Natsuki and loves her and looks up to her a lot) and talk to her about wanting to be a rock idol.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on February 06, 2015, 10:37:08 PM
This is true! But I'm saying because someone said someone got into the directors notes or whatever and they had a cv ready for natsuki. here's what the post said "someone looked into the developers tools for the cg anime site and theres a cv section ready for natsuki kimura"

Ah, are you talking about the website script? Because there is a VA section available for Natsuki, but it could be a placeholder.. I'm not entirely sure though, because Hina Araki and Sarina Matsumoto don't have this section, but the script may just be different at that part of the page due to the way it's setup.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on February 06, 2015, 10:43:27 PM
Ah, are you talking about the website script? Because there is a VA section available for Natsuki, but it could be a placeholder.. I'm not entirely sure though, because Hina Araki and Sarina Matsumoto don't have this section, but the script may just be different at that part of the page due to the way it's setup.

I'm not sure. They didn't go into details but it may be. I checked around the script too. I have seen the website and seen Natsuki on there so maybe they do have her up for a reason. I am skeptical though. But hey Aki got voiced and she wasn't on a poll, so maybe they're just voicing whomever?  I wonder if they will voice Hina or Sarina though. I really like Hina tbh. ;-)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 06, 2015, 11:04:04 PM
This is true! But I'm saying because someone said someone got into the directors notes or whatever and they had a cv ready for natsuki. here's what the post said "someone looked into the developers tools for the cg anime site and theres a cv section ready for natsuki kimura"  I mean it would make a lot of sense because Riina is really close to Natsuki and there would be open space for if Riina gets an episode around her that she may meet Natsuki (honestly she probably already knows Natsuki and loves her and looks up to her a lot) and talk to her about wanting to be a rock idol.
Is there a source for that?

Also, I wonder if anyone can read the lyrics for Love Laika's song (looking forward to it). It's at 14:15.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on February 06, 2015, 11:12:43 PM
Is there a source for that?


I'll look around! I'd be skeptical. Like I said a few post ago I heard she might be getting one, not that she is getting one.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 06, 2015, 11:23:25 PM
And for those who's curious where Love Laika gets it name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on February 07, 2015, 12:17:47 AM
And for those who's curious where Love Laika gets it name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika).

I knew it sounded familiar!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on February 07, 2015, 04:33:23 AM
Hooray for voiced idols! Although, it makes me wonder about the criteria Scamco is using to choose who to voice. Sanae and Shizuku I can understand, but Aki has never ranked in an election before.. I have no problem with her, it's just odd that she was chosen.

I was thinking on this, and believe it's a combination of many factors.

I'm sure there are idols that Namco already had VA's selected for, and were just waiting to be used/hired. Either they were pre-selected some time ago or they had a specific VA in mind. Other idols are so generic (or not as super popular), that any talented VA who can hold a tune could perform the role, and most fans wouldn't object to the choice. Then you have idols who are so popular fans would riot if she wasn't good enough... or the idol's personality makes it difficult to find the perfect fit, and thus Namco is still searching for a VA.

Things of that sort... An idol like Aki strikes me as a "generic easy to fill" IMHO.

*Dons fireproof suit in preparation for incoming flames by those who like Aki.*
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on February 07, 2015, 01:07:03 PM
It just dawned on me... that Anzu being happy with the no debut status quo, is because she's being paid to do nothing. While it's not a lot, I'm thinking girls are getting a paycheck to remain in a holding pattern and keep training with 346 Pro. Whatever that amount is, it apparently is enough for Anzu to maintain her lazy lifestyle. Being that Anzu is a quick learner/natural talent at singing and dancing, she never needed to put that much effort when dealing with the Trainer sisters (at least, not as much as poor Miku).

Que end of episode 5.

Mayday! Mayday! Her free lunch is going down! :D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on February 08, 2015, 05:26:34 AM
And so dropped the first of many potential drama bombs. Anya and Minami in the split-personality skits were also such a tease, too.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on February 08, 2015, 11:44:56 PM
I'm hoping for a Riina, Kanako, Rika unit so we can get a little Rockin' Girl going on. The manga like, stopped.

I liked this last episode though. It looks like we got a couple of walk-on cameos (don't think we'll see Aki again), but if they get CDs or somethin' later, that's all cool.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 08, 2015, 11:51:06 PM
I'm hoping for a Riina, Kanako, Rika unit so we can get a little Rockin' Girl going on. The manga like, stopped.

I liked this last episode though. It looks like we got a couple of walk-on cameos (don't think we'll see Aki again), but if they get CDs or somethin' later, that's all cool.

I think I saw an image of a new chapter of that manga that featured Kanako and Kaede.

As for the episode, I adore this episode because not only was the conflict completely justified and not overblown, it also seems like the writers are acknowledging a common problem that NG get way too much focus, main trio or not. At least, that's how I interpret it, anyway.

Also, does this mean we are officially getting new image songs for Cinderella Project thanks to the CD Debut waves? Cuz if they are, I would actually consider buying a Love Laika CD.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 09, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Here's the preview for Episode 6 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK6B60X5mc) featuring the Jougasaki sisters I believe. Looks like NG's new song will be called できたてEvo! Revo! Generation! (Dekitate Evo! Revo! Generation!).

Is it me or the last two episodes are kinda lacking according to other people on the internet? I'm not too sure what to say about 4, but the way 5 had handled the strike part was face-palming. If that happen in real life, she'll be fired big time. But this is Idolm@ster we're talking about, so that doesn't really matter, but it's still eye-rolling.

Also, other people don't like Miku, the younger idols, and idols like Anzu, Kirari, Chieri (agreed), and Kanako, personality-wise, though that's most likely because they never played the games nor heard the dramas enough to understand the series, but I can see where they're coming from.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 09, 2015, 02:54:09 PM
Also, other people don't like Miku, the younger idols, and idols like Anzu, Kirari, Chieri (agreed), and Kanako, personality-wise, though that's most likely because they never played the games nor heard the dramas enough to understand the series, but I can see where they're coming from.

Well, besides Miku, all of them haven't really done anything in the anime yet, especially this early on which seems to be focusing on New Generation and Love Laika. Hopefully by the time the anime either progresses or ends, they'll develop some sort of fanbase from newcomers.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on February 09, 2015, 06:49:15 PM
They would be fired, without a single stretch of the imagination. But we can't have too much reality in this idol business, can we? At the very least we got a Kaede chuckle to swoon over. All the more to focus on her; she's class.

In regards to anime exposure, it's gotten ironic; Anzu has quite a few appearances already and yet five episodes in she's still doing the same exact thing with supplementary NEET motives. It's like they're wanting people to dislike her.

Chieri also gives me the impression of Yukiho 1.5 so I'm hoping they change her up in addition to the aforementioned, underutilized idols. 26 episodes should look to stymie the idols remaining one-trick ponies as of current.

Miku can be excused at this point, though.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 09, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
They would be fired, without a single stretch of the imagination. But we can't have too much reality in this idol business, can we? At the very least we got a Kaede chuckle to swoon over. All the more to focus on her; she's class.

True. iM@S has never been about COMPLETE realism. Remember that Chihaya had an incurable throat disease magically cured after talking to a blue bird that implicitly holds the spirit of her dead brother. I think Miku can keep her job after that strike.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on February 09, 2015, 07:24:58 PM
True. iM@S has never been about COMPLETE realism. Remember that Chihaya had an incurable throat disease magically cured after talking to a blue bird that implicitly holds the spirit of her dead brother. I think Miku can keep her job after that strike.

I was speaking strictly of the business standpoint; at least in the original anime your idols kept work going on, amidst reasonable lulls in activity like a beach vacation or even the Producer's accident. There's also the fact Chihaya's laryngitis and it's resolution never happened in said adaptation so the comparison with this anime is off. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 09, 2015, 07:37:00 PM
I was speaking strictly of the business standpoint; at least in the original anime your idols kept work going on, amidst reasonable lulls in activity like a beach vacation or even the Producer's accident. There's also the fact Chihaya's laryngitis and it's resolution never happened in said adaptation so the comparison with this anime is off. :P

Good point. I was referring to the franchise as a whole, but I understand that comparing the game to the anime is not a good idea.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on February 10, 2015, 02:47:00 AM
... We got a gangwar's worth of chuunibyou who never got out of pretending to be cats, psychics, immortal aliens, ninjas, commandos, curse-bound vampire fallen angel... things, no less than two mad scientists, a mushroom mania psychopath, and a real life Santa complete with raindeer in tow, and people are complaining about realism?

I gotta be doin' this wrong, guys. I was sure there was supposed to be some humor factor in the Liberation of Cafe Mishiro. ^_^;;
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 10, 2015, 06:11:37 AM
That is true, though.

While I was surfing on the internet, I found something (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9T4-kNCMAA_tsi.png:large) interesting (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9TpZoKCQAAHY4z.png). These are the full lyrics of "Star!!" and "Yuubae Present" respectively.
They came from this Twittter user (https://twitter.com/kakubaruP). Not sure where he/she got got them from, so give this a grain of salt. They somehow look like the real deal, but that'll wait until the 18th.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on February 10, 2015, 10:32:46 PM
... We got a gangwar's worth of chuunibyou who never got out of pretending to be cats, psychics, immortal aliens, ninjas, commandos, curse-bound vampire fallen angel... things, no less than two mad scientists, a mushroom mania psychopath, and a real life Santa complete with raindeer in tow, and people are complaining about realism?

I gotta be doin' this wrong, guys. I was sure there was supposed to be some humor factor in the Liberation of Cafe Mishiro. ^_^;;

NO! EVERYTHING MUST BE DARK AND GRITTY AND DEPRESSING. >:C

But in total seriousness, it was less that and more musings toward how disjointed these work ethics are. Even the original iM@S anime kept things reasonable despite how off the wall it was sometimes. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Jerrymouse23 on February 11, 2015, 01:16:16 AM
That is true, though.

While I was surfing on the internet, I found something (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9T4-kNCMAA_tsi.png:large) interesting (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9TpZoKCQAAHY4z.png). These are the full lyrics of "Star!!" and "Yuubae Present" respectively.
They came from this Twittter user (https://twitter.com/kakubaruP). Not sure where he/she got got them from, so give this a grain of salt. They somehow look like the real deal, but that'll wait until the 18th.

I think full version of those songs have already been performed in live concerts / events previously.
Full-size "Star!!": http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25526886

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 11, 2015, 03:54:07 AM
A minor error I just caught myself in CG EP5. In this shot, Yuko looks taller than Sanae despite Yuko being 140cm and Sanae being 152cm.

(http://a.jlab2.net/s/1423235676701.jpg)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on February 11, 2015, 06:00:31 AM
Another thing for the list of errors the Blu-ray to fix, I guess. :P

Looking back on earlier skits, its like they know what I want (http://www.animedere.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/imascg05-41.jpg)! *3*
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on February 11, 2015, 06:17:06 AM
... Maybe it's Sanae leaning to the side, and being a little further away from the camera, with Yuko standing up straight?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 12, 2015, 09:24:55 PM
I'm not sure if anyone's aware, but Nippon Columbia is releasing videos featuring the main actresses in a 13-day countdown to 'hype' up the release of the "Star!!" CD.

List:
13. Ayaka Fukuhara (Rin Shibuya's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fPpSZ0rlVg)
12. Rei Matsuzaki (Kirari Moroboshi's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1aVnac21Ks)
11. Hiromi Igarashi (Anzu Futaba's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP491kMV_lI)
10. Ruriko Aoki (Riina Tada's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A8ZC6Cfgv0)
9. Sayuri Hara (Mio Honda's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSX58zxLDGw)
8. Natsumi Takamori (Miku Maekawa's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxxj6pgdNmE)
7. Aya Suzaki (Minami Nitta's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4A2l3t6iE)
6. Nozomi Yamamoto (Rika Jougasaki's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uc0CuQNy2k)
5. Naomi Oozora (Chieri Ogata's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Au9-I0Vk9g)
4. Sumire Uesaka (Anastasia's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZmAqEjbXnU)
3. Tomoyo Kurosawa (Miria Akagi's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W9w61zL_SQ)
2. Maaya Uchida (Ranko Kanzaki's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RjDm6KXDxk)
1. Yuka Ohtsubo (Kanako Mimura's VA) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmc7GFzZ6wI)
Release!: Ayaka Ohashi (Uzuki Shimamura's VA) (http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNsp-iOAeQ)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on February 13, 2015, 10:41:49 PM
This week's episode... Damn. Just. Damn.

never imagined that the trio getting their big break at Mika's concert would backfire so spectacularly. But it's really to be expected... If your prior experience is a big stage with thousands of cheering fans, a small performance in a mall with maybe... two or three dozen people at most watching probably feels like rock bottom?

People are probably going to jump on Mio for "overreacting" though... Poor Mio.


Memories is a really good song too. Really glad that the single was announced right after the episode aired lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 13, 2015, 11:18:46 PM
It's more like it's due to Mio's over-expectation with the amount of people coming to watch the concert in her part, though the lack of excitement from the audience plays a part of that, too. Gotta say, while I'm not much a fan of the "I'm going to quit as an idol" drama, I wasn't expect to see this early in the series and it's Mio of all things. Also, I wasn't expect to see Mio as NG's leader.

Memories was pretty good so far, though できたてEvo! Revo! Generation! (Dekitate Evo! Revo! Generation!) doesn't impress me yet.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on February 13, 2015, 11:53:33 PM
Well I figured they had to bring *something* back for the drama factor, seeing how they resolved the jealously thing. What occurred wasn't something I expected, but I'll wait and see how it goes before making judgement on the timing and delivery. Mio's reaction struck me as out of character though... at least from what we've been exposed to of her character with past CD's and drama skits. It's also very selfish, given the Producer has already revealed the Cinderella Girls Project requires many moving parts to function in successful coordination, for the whole machine to be a a success for everyone. That kind of behavior I expect out of Miku or Anzu. Mio? Not so much.

Hopefully the situation can be resolved, or the Producer can modify his plans to omit as necessary. I'd be upset to see the others suffer because of the folly of a single person.

I WANT MY RANKO EPISODE!!!!

TBH... the Producer really needs to get his people skills up to speed. He's like a thematic opposite of the 756 Producer. 756 Producer-san had the social skills to keep it together, but initially lacked the resources and entertainment experience to make things happen. 346 Producer-san has the resources and entertainment experience to make things happen, but lacks the social skills to keep it together.

That all being said...

Fans of Anya x Minami should be chomping at the bit.

Also that scene with Anzu on Kirari's phone is a GIF goldmine.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on February 14, 2015, 12:22:01 AM
At first I was having trouble putting my finger on the problems these last few episodes have been showing... but now that I think about it more, the issue isn't that the Producer has difficulty with socializing or expressing his intentions...

...the issue is that these idols don't trust or have faith in the Producer. As the montage in episode 6 shows, and his quick conversation with the oh-so-lovely Chihiro, P-san really busts his ass to get things done for his idols. However they seem to be under the impression he doesn't have their best interests in mind and/or doesn't want to see them become super stars. I'm having trouble understanding why this is so. Sure... he's not expressive... but that shouldn't obscure the amount of work he puts into the project.

There's also this weird idea that they can become superstars over night... which is totally unrealistic. Just because I was the backup singer/dancer for a S+ Rank entertainer, doesn't make me an S+ Rank entertainer. Mio's ego needs to be put in check. She got lucky with that first break. Even if 345 gave her a real stadium concert, she doesn't have her own fan base (outside of her classmates). What she got was exposure to Mika's fan base. The company would have been forced to give tickets away for free, or have her tagged to an S+ Rank idol's performance, to fill the seats. She's supposed to earn her own success... not leech of another's.

Lastly... while I don't think it will happen, this would be the PERFECT opportunity for the anime to stop being centered around the New Generations and move on to the other idols. Yes, eventually Mio would return, but I think they could milk this drama further if Mio was on the sidelines as a not-idol and watch as the rest of the Cinderella Girls rise to fame without her (Shiburin and Shimamu could go solo act for the time being).

If this series had used more of the cast, this would have been a great time to bring Triad Primus into the spotlight... but that's totally not going to happen, until the end of the show. I'm thinking a Triad Primus will be the second season... assuming the anime become successful enough for such a thing.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: seibo on February 14, 2015, 06:58:31 AM
Am I the only one who thought it was weird that Mio was the leader? I could have sworn in an earlier episode they made Uzuki the leader. It's totally fine for that to change (it's kind of a minor thing) but it seems weird to just be unexplained. It might have been a choice for the narrative to work, but I really wish it had gotten a bit of dialogue as to why.

As for the main plot point I honestly thought it was going to go in a different direction. There were a couple of shots of the NG girls performing where they weren't smiling so I thought it was trying to show that NG didn't do as good of a job as Love Laika (cause I wanna say Trainer mentioned something about smiling during the practice sessions). I was also totally sure Uzuki was gonna trip in the heels on that part she always messed up on. The fact that Mio's hangup was about the audience makes me a little :/ She's obviously a little naive about the whole idol business, but it seems so overblown that I dare say it's a bit OOC.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 14, 2015, 07:06:41 AM
I swear if Mio gets fat........

Anyway, one thing that is interesting to consider is this post I found on /@/ that may or may not give some sort of clarity on this whole debacle as to whether or not Mio's moment was OOC.

Quote
Jokes on you guys. The CG girls barely had any character in the first place. Other than scratching in a little extra depth with special events, there are little to no in-depth introspections on the characters.

Is this optimal? Well admittedly, the flow was clunky. And I'm a little mad how they intersparsed LL's sakuga with NG fucking up. But this episode really did its work to establish Mio further as a character. At least now, I can say that Mio finally broke free from being Uzuki's shadow of being a relatively unmemorable.

The episode drove it home that Mio is a very juvenille character. That is to say, she sets very unrealistic expectations and when things don't go her way, she throws tantrums. Mio is the kind of girl who brags to her friends and shows off. Her friend made it to the mini live and despite the low audience, probably thought no less of Mio. After all, its their friend out there. However, Mio already established a level of deluded grandeur for herself after having a taste of the big stage courtesy of Mika. And things just fell apart for her thanks to her immaturity.

It's not done perfectly, but it's nowhere near as bad as you people are making it to be. Personally, I think it's a good development considering that a.) It places more character to Mio, who has had the stigma of Shitty Uzuki Clone 2.0: Genki Edition and b.) It shows a lead in towards further development of NG as a group and P-san finally flexing his emotions to the idols; which in turn leads to opening up the character arcs of the others. (i.e. Do you honestly think Chieri will open up and grow attatched to the stonefaced TakeP? The guy needs to into commu events and emotions first.)

In the end, both sides were wrong and there's neither a good or bad guy here. Just an incredibly ambiguous gray area.

On a happier note, Memories is absolutely fantastic and solidifies Love Laika as one of, if not my all-time, favorite iM@S units.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on February 14, 2015, 08:42:22 AM
You have to admit, even if you hate her actions, Mio isn't nearly as slappable as Honoka was during Love Live's drama sequences. I don't want to grab Mio by the shoulders and yell at her at least.

http://imas-cinderella.com/package/01.html
Oh yeah, the DVD section of the anime site lists 9 bundles of 2 or more episodes, so I think it's safe to say 26 episodes or more confirmed?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on February 14, 2015, 01:19:50 PM
Anyway, one thing that is interesting to consider is this post I found on /@/ that may or may not give some sort of clarity on this whole debacle as to whether or not Mio's moment was OOC.

See, I have to disagree with that person. He sounds like someone who's never heard the drama CD's, read the manga, seen the in-game quotes, or listened to the radio show. Mio has a character. Granted it's not in depth as the original iM@S idols, but she DOES have a developed persona that forms the basis of her identity. What Mio did seems OC from what we've known of her. Now I'm not passing final judgement, because the story arc has yet to finish, but I can see why Mio fans are upset about this happening to her. This isn't something expected -- and having the unexpected in a story is not always a good thing.

Again... Miku or Anzu doing this would be completely within their personality to have done. They are more selfish and egotistical than the norm, but the selection of Mio for it is jarring. It almost changes the dynamic of her... as if she has elements of a "Stepford Smiler" lurking in her... which goes against the grain of what "Genki Girl" fans find adorable (and we already have "Stepford Idols" in Hotaru Shiragiku and Miyu Mifune).

I'm not against change or expanding character -- hence me holding off about bad mouthing the writers -- I'm just wondering if this moment will be remembered as a new definitive personality trait for Mio... or just a random thing that occurred to make plot. The first would be true character development, and the second would be OOC.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on February 14, 2015, 04:19:25 PM
After hearing Memories, I think I've found a potential keyboard cover song in the future (after edeN).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 14, 2015, 09:04:24 PM
According to someone on reddit, the venue that New Gen and LOVE LAIKA debuted in is based off a real life venue called the Ikebukuro Sunshine City Fountain Square. It's also where Kana had an accident on stage in the IDOLM@STER Movie.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 14, 2015, 09:05:47 PM
According to someone on reddit, the venue that New Gen and LOVE LAIKA debuted in is based off a real life venue called the Ikebukuro Sunshine City Fountain Square. It's also where Kana had an accident on stage in the IDOLM@STER Movie.

Must be a pretty unlucky location for a similar incident to occur twice.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Rihsa on February 14, 2015, 10:20:10 PM
I'm not against change or expanding character -- hence me holding off about bad mouthing the writers -- I'm just wondering if this moment will be remembered as a new definitive personality trait for Mio... or just a random thing that occurred to make plot. The first would be true character development, and the second would be OOC.

It doesn't have to be a definitive personality trait. Her expectations were built too high, and probably after a heart to heart talk with Mio, she won't set herself up for disappointment again. She doesn't have to throw a tantrum every time the concert crowd's too small.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on February 15, 2015, 12:52:10 AM
Ikebukuro Sunshine City Fountain Square must be a pretty unlucky location for a similar incident to occur twice.

It's not. iM@S has had READY!!, CHANGE!!!!, and Onegai! Cinderella single CD's all successfully debut here as mini lives and handshake events (with surprise appearances too!).

I'm having trouble understanding why this is so. Sure... he's not expressive... but that shouldn't obscure the amount of work he puts into the project.

There's also this weird idea that they can become superstars over night... which is totally unrealistic. Just because I was the backup singer/dancer for a S+ Rank entertainer, doesn't make me an S+ Rank entertainer. Mio's ego needs to be put in check. She got lucky with that first break. Even if 345 gave her a real stadium concert, she doesn't have her own fan base (outside of her classmates). What she got was exposure to Mika's fan base. The company would have been forced to give tickets away for free, or have her tagged to an S+ Rank idol's performance, to fill the seats. She's supposed to earn her own success... not leech of another's.


He's secretive enough about his work that the girls can't tell what he's doing though, or else Miku wouldn't have had her outburst. He may be working hard, but they haven't gotten to see nearly any of the results of his work yet. Really, the only jobs the girls have had for themselves are some oddjobs and the NG+LL debut. As far as careers go, 765 (an agency with virtually no money) had a better debut than them and that was at a rural festival.

And Mio's drama makes a lot of sense to me. As a performer, everyone wants a great debut no matter what genre. Mio had only the background stage experience to rely on, so she expected there to be at least somewhat of a turn out. There were about eight people standing in front of the stage by the end of the performance, not including Mio's friends. Mio called everyone she knew, and probably expected to see some of the other girls' supporters too. She probably thought she would at least draw in some more people at the mall too, because that's part of being an idol. Seeing that turn out made her question not only her abilities as a leader, but as an idol. It was an embarrassing turn out for her, especially in front of her friends, and it really wasn't something the Producer could've avoided, especially after Mika's live.

Having been in similar shoes before, Mio's reaction after the live seems completely normal to me.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 15, 2015, 12:55:24 AM
It's not. iM@S has had READY!!, CHANGE!!!!, and Onegai! Cinderella single CD's all successfully debut here as mini lives and handshake events (with surprise appearances too!).

I was speaking more for adaptations since, as pointed out earlier, it is kind of an odd coincidence that Kana and Mio had similar incidents occur for them in the same location.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 15, 2015, 01:34:33 AM
That's nice to know.

And then, this happened... (http://idolmaster-music.tumblr.com/post/111028468136/song-star-artist-cinderella-project-album-the)
Yeah, the street date for this CD's release got broken somehow...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on February 15, 2015, 03:15:19 AM
I didn't think it was out of character for Mio, really. I just think she got caught up with whatever it was with Mika's concert, and kinda took off with it. I mean, heck, first thing she does is become a backup dancer for some really big idol, then she gets a CD. She's always seemed to be the type to take a wave of energy and kinda take off with it, and it seems more to me she was riding off that first concert in full-on cowabunga mode. So yeah, reality check is gonna be harsh.

Producer... well, he tanked his Charisma stat, so yeah, he kinda messed up when he tried talking sense into her, but I'm glad he at least tried - dude's got a spine, and he's not afraid to lay it to 'em. Did she overreact? Maybe, but hey. People blurt all sorts of stuff out when they're feeling like the walls're closing in, whether or not it makes logical sense in the grand scheme of things. Mio being impulsive ain't that odd, I always figured her the type. So when the Producer showed her how much of a lady killer he ain't... what'd he say again? "Of course this would've happened?" Well, her mind thought it, and it went straight to her mouth. I don't think that's unlike her.

I kinda like what's happening though, because what's the first thing you learn in storytelling? Conflict. Gotta be there, or you get pointless plots or Gary Stu gutter trash. I dunno about anyone else, but seeing the bad side of a character makes them more complete as a character. But meh... maybe I misunderstood her character from the start? Don't think I did, but eh.

... Though I have to admit, I'm getting a little tired of Daisuki. Especially the ads.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on February 15, 2015, 09:15:46 AM
Okay, I'm really confused. Who exactly is who in this scene?

(http://i.imgur.com/6SamiVI.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/hDFrzBN.jpg)

1) Koume Shirasaka
2) Ryo Matsunaga, Chinami Komura, Kumiko Matsuyama, or Marina Sawada?
3) Otoha Umeki, Clarise, Asuka Ninomiya?
4) Kanna Ariura
5) Reina Koseki
6) Mirei Hayasaka
7) Layla or Rina Fujimoto?
8 ) Ranko Kanzaki
9) Miyo Harada, Kako Takafuji, or Hitomi Niwa?
10) Riina Tada
11) Naho Ebihara, Miu Yaguchi, or Ayame Hamaguchi?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 15, 2015, 05:32:37 PM
2) is the hardest, but it's Ryo Matsunaga. Unlike the other three you listed, Ryo's hair doesn't cover her ears from both sides and doesn't have bangs.
3) is Otoha Umeki.
7) is Layla. It's based of her Rockstar SR (http://www.project-imas.com/wiki/File:LaylaSR2.jpg).
9) is actually Miku Maekawa.
11) is Ayame Hamaguchi.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on February 15, 2015, 06:42:30 PM
Goddamn it, Mio. You were just a back-up dancer in your first performance and ya' fuckin' think you gon' be A-list overnight?! Of course you're gonna get a small crowd at a mini-concert!

I mean, what the fuck? One of Motorhead's first performances were just attended by, according to Lemmy, 10 people and a dog. How about Muse from Otonokizaka High School? Hahahaha. (http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/wow-its-fucking-nothing.jpg) And you got a whole mini-mall all by yo' self, damn it! A WHOLE FUCKING MINI-MALL!

That's some unrealistic expectations right there, Missy! Stand down!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 16, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
Here's the preview for Episode 7 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YEnwI1pGYA) featuring Chihiro and Producer. lol at those hate comments. That's Youtube for ya.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 16, 2015, 05:53:13 PM
Here's the preview for Episode 7 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YEnwI1pGYA) featuring Chihiro and Producer. lol at those hate comments. That's Youtube for ya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F157geaXp_w

Personally, I could do without the gray skies, dim lights and washed-out colors everywhere. Somebody should really stop screwing with the saturation settings.

All this Mio hate is starting to look like anime Miki all over again.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 17, 2015, 08:58:45 PM
Hmm, who's that girl speaking to Minami and Uzuki? (http://shunei.egloos.com/5837082)

Definitely not Momoka.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nukichuu on February 18, 2015, 09:55:09 AM
Im glad they got an Anime but i really miss the 765Pro Characters T_T. And i miss Producer san D:
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on February 18, 2015, 12:29:02 PM
Well, even though 765pro is in the mobile game, they have not many cards, so i think that they will only have cameos here, which is great because Cinderella Girls is a stand alone. They have their own company and I like the new producer, he is great in my oppinion.(rin x P shipper here)
But I'm excited how the story progresses, but I hope Mio doesn't turn into miki2.0
I like Miki but I hated the episode where she wanted to quit because things weren't going as she wanted them to, and that's the same that mio is doing atm

 
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on February 19, 2015, 01:40:32 AM
Well, even though 765pro is in the mobile game, they have not many cards, so i think that they will only have cameos here, which is great because Cinderella Girls is a stand alone. They have their own company and I like the new producer, he is great in my oppinion.(rin x P shipper here)
But I'm excited how the story progresses, but I hope Mio doesn't turn into miki2.0
I like Miki but I hated the episode where she wanted to quit because things weren't going as she wanted them to, and that's the same that mio is doing atm
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought Mio and Miki were so similar. Both situations sprouted from a misunderstanding, although I can stand Mio a lot more =P
Also, did anyone get the ANIMATION PROJECT 01 STAR!! CD yet? I was thinking about getting it but wondered if it's worth picking up. I could always easily get it later on too.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on February 19, 2015, 02:51:47 AM
Also, did anyone get the ANIMATION PROJECT 01 STAR!! CD yet? I was thinking about getting it but wondered if it's worth picking up. I could always easily get it later on too.

I say, if you like all the songs in that CD, then sure. But I think you better off getting it later.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Roswell on February 20, 2015, 02:31:50 AM
Mio definitely overreacted, but I don't think it was out of character. We've already seen that her "genki girl" persona gets quickly dropped when she's under pressure or nervous. Right before they were up to perform at Mika's concert, Mio went completely silent watching the audience and her expression freaked Rin out. Her expectations were set unrealistically high and she had an emotional outburst while she was still in mid-shock.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 21, 2015, 12:43:00 AM
Cinderella Girls Episode 8 will be pushed back one week. Instead, next week will be a special recap program hosted by the VAs of New Generation.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-02-20/the-idolm@ster-cinderella-girls-episode-delayed-for-recap-episode-special-program/.85226
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on February 21, 2015, 01:28:21 AM
Wow! Hard to believe CinderellaP's VA is only 17! With a voice like his, I thought he'd be much older.

Oh well, this break will allow me to catch up on Log Horizon 2 and perhaps Aikatsu.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nukichuu on February 21, 2015, 05:43:02 PM
Wow! Hard to believe CinderellaP's VA is only 17! With a voice like his, I thought he'd be much older.

Oh well, this break will allow me to catch up on Log Horizon 2 and perhaps Aikatsu.

Yeah that feel when you are watching like 6 Animes but dont have time for anything xD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tafira on February 23, 2015, 03:46:52 AM
I enjoyed the last two episodes. I'm actually glad I held off on watching episode 6 until I could watch 6 and 7 together.
6 by itself was mildly annoying, though I suppose Producer's poor communication and 'anime common sense' made Mio's 'qutting' somewhat reasonable.

The shift to dark hues and raining weather in episode 7 made for a pleasant change for me honestly, it may be an overused trope in all forms of entertainment, but it's still a viable technique, along with the sun coming out at the end. I was honestly kind of looking for a reformed crystal slipper at the end or something haha

The background on the Producer hinted in episode 6 by the director was something I had wanted for a long while; the allegory in a fairy tale was great. I hope we can learn more about the Producer as this series rolls on?


By the way, does anyone know if CG will be a two-cour anime? I don't feel like this could possible be a 1 cour without disastrous changes.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on February 26, 2015, 06:46:39 PM
Looking back some, Roswell pretty much summed my opinion. Moreover...

Cinderella Girls Episode 8 will be pushed back one week.

A weekly delay? Guess Mio's seiyuu also called it idol strike. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on February 27, 2015, 05:00:26 PM
Yes, we're finally getting character episodes! :D!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJmHiSZifc
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on February 27, 2015, 05:45:44 PM
Yes, we're finally getting character episodes! :D!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJmHiSZifc
Ranko!! Yesssss!!

I was really worried that we wouldn't have them and certain characters would be pushed to tiny roles.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on February 27, 2015, 10:17:42 PM
Sure is grayscale around here, but jesting aside Uzuki sure made the nice contrast.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 02, 2015, 06:46:11 AM
Found another error thanks to TvTropes lol
(http://i1.ruliweb.daumcdn.net/uf/image/U01/ruliweb/54C274844E33D70019)
Hint: hands
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on March 02, 2015, 09:37:26 AM
Found another error thanks to TvTropes lol
(http://i1.ruliweb.daumcdn.net/uf/image/U01/ruliweb/54C274844E33D70019)
Hint: hands

Shiburin!!!!
What happened to your arm!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on March 03, 2015, 12:17:10 AM
Reading through the last Magic Hour, I learned some things.

* The "general manager" of CINDERELLA PROJECT's name is "Imanishi-san".
* "Happy Princess" was a concert event, not a unit.
* "Royal Square" is officially called "Frilled Square" by Mizuki Kawashima.
** Pinya is now officially voiced as of the anime canon.
* Yuko Hori, Shizuku Oikawa, and Sanae Katagiri are in a unit called "Sexy Guilty".
* Sachiko leads a unit on a variety show, and Koume is the leader of "Zombie Girls". Neither has named all of their members.
* New Wave is officially a unit in the anime canon, and Mizuki thinks they are cute.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Naryoril on March 03, 2015, 08:26:20 AM
Yes, we're finally getting character episodes! :D!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJmHiSZifc

The will have to save the anime for me. So far i really dislike half of the characters, they are still just walking gimmicks to me... If it weren't im@s i'm sure i'd have stopped watching the show by now.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 03, 2015, 02:18:11 PM
Yes, we're finally getting character episodes! :D!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJmHiSZifc

YES!!! Let the Darkness flow and drown you in fear! All hail Ranko! HAIL!


* Yuko Hori, Shizuku Oikawa, and Sanae Katagiri are in a unit called "Sexy Guilty".

Hmmm... I don't get it.

Shizuka has the largest... err... assets of all idols. Sanae is the shortest idol with the largest... err... assets.
Yuko lacks said assets. Why is she in the trio?


* Sachiko leads a unit on a variety show...

The name will totally be Sachiko-like. :)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 04, 2015, 06:08:05 PM
Hooray for character episodes!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 06, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
HUGE CINDERELLA GIRLS SPOILERS

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/4694359de7ca744ff2519c99041171a3/tumblr_nksrboemQ81qz64n4o6_400.png)
RANKO IS ACTUALLY A GHOUL

also new ranko song that sounds really really cool

This episode was really cute. Seeing the girls bond with each other was a bonus, and Producer cultivating a weird little friendship with Ranko (down to keeping a journal with a "translation guide") was adorable since they're both kind of oddballs.

Next episode looks like a Kanako episode from the title alone?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 06, 2015, 09:16:09 PM
HUGE CINDERELLA GIRLS SPOILERS

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/4694359de7ca744ff2519c99041171a3/tumblr_nksrboemQ81qz64n4o6_400.png)
RANKO IS ACTUALLY A GHOUL

also new ranko song that sounds really really cool

This episode was really cute. Seeing the girls bond with each other was a bonus, and Producer cultivating a weird little friendship with Ranko (down to keeping a journal with a "translation guide") was adorable since they're both kind of oddballs.

Next episode looks like a Kanako episode from the title alone?

I want Rosenburg Engel so badly right now, it's not even funny! I am surprised that Ranko's CD is being released before New Generation's. Maybe they're being saved for last because, ya know, main characters.

I also found it adorable and hilarious that Miria is the only one that knows what Ranko is actually saying!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Saturos on March 06, 2015, 10:11:47 PM
I'm sorry I could not put up with Ranko's antics. I'd say more worse things if it weren't for the fact that I (have to) respect this kind of thing i.e. getting to know a (fussy) female's feelings before getting to business which is paramount to progressing in any sort of relationship.
If I'm going to have to hear anyone call her superior over Takane though, I will flip a table.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on March 06, 2015, 10:41:34 PM
I'm sorry I could not put up with Ranko's antics. I'd say more worse things if it weren't for the fact that I (have to) respect this kind of thing i.e. getting to know a (fussy) female's feelings before getting to business which is paramount to progressing in any sort of relationship.
If I'm going to have to hear anyone call her superior over Takane though, I will flip a table.

I don't see any problem in the way Ranko acted. She just wanted Producer to understand that her image wasn't horror and that she doesn't really like horror all that much. She just wanted him to understand her "theme" and how SHE wanted to debut but became shy when she realized producer didn't understand. She just needed Producer to initiate conversation with her because she was to timid to so herself. Producer taking the first step probably took a bunch of stress off her shoulders and her timidness melted away and let her show producer her ideas.

To some people Ranko is superior to Takane. Its just their personal tastes. But? The two are two very different characters, Ranko is more goth themed and Takane isn't goth at all shes just mysterious. Ranko really isn't mysterious at all the only thing "odd" about her is her speech. To compare them other than being "oddballs" is odd itself.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on March 06, 2015, 11:30:20 PM
Sounds like my first CG crush (Kana-chan) will be the focus of the next episode considering the title and her sweet tooth. HNNNG, I'm already hyped!

I really like Ranko's new song. An angel with one white wing and one black wing...there is light within every shadow...

How in the world does Miria understand what she's saying?! Does she secretly understand the language and thought process of the chunnibyou? Has she been avidly watching Love, Chunnibyou, and Other Delusions or something?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 07, 2015, 12:21:28 AM
How in the world does Miria understand what she's saying?! Does she secretly understand the language and thought process of the chunnibyou? Has she been avidly watching Love, Chunnibyou, and Other Delusions or something?

Maybe its because little kids have wilder imaginations than anyone else and Miria is able to understand what its like to be in a personal la-la land all the time. Keep in mind she's an 11-year old little girl in an idol group of 14-18 year olds on average.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 07, 2015, 12:50:13 AM
Ranko's song was just taken down on Niconico lol.

Also the website updated on the character section (http://imas-cinderella.com/character/#list).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 07, 2015, 01:30:05 AM
Ranko! By the Dark Gods of the Fallen Light... YES!!!

I loved this episode. Ranko's outfits were incredible, and the animators loved showing closeups of her lipstick covered lips and beautiful red eyes in delicious detail.

Plus those subtle Producer x Ranko shipping moments.  8)

Also... Shoko and Koume. Good God I can't get enough of those two either. I was so hoping you-know-who would just snap and go crazy. She was so close to doing it.

I'm hoping that Zombie Girls also includes Nono. If anyone can get her to panic like there's no tomorrow, it's those two girls.  ;D


I'm sorry I could not put up with Ranko's antics.

I love Ranko's antics. She's basically a younger, more innocent version of the Fairy Yui persona. I can't get enough of it.


If I'm going to have to hear anyone call her superior over Takane though, I will flip a table.

Well get ready to flip some tables then.  ;)

Personally, I hate it when people compare Ranko to Takane. She isn't Takane. Ranko knows her fallen angel vampire persona is fake. She puts all her heart and soul into it, because she wants it to be real... but deep down she knows it's all an act. In-game the only person she ever admits this to is the Producer. Takane is a mystery because her past is so unknown and she gives cryptic answers. Ranko doesn't hide her past... nor is it unknown. She's revealed (in-game and drama cd media) that her home life is pretty mundane and somewhat embarrassing. There's no secret to that.



I really like Ranko's new song. An angel with one white wing and one black wing...there is light within every shadow...

Same here! Same here! She now has a song even more Yosei Teikoku than Dreaming Flower’s Bud Rhapsody ~Soul’s Guidance~! I was so hoping something like that would happen (or her actually covering one of their songs). I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THE FULL VERSION!!!

In fact the way Ranko goes under the persona of Rosenberg Engel for her song, is a lot how Yui Itsuki as the persona of Fairy Yui, undergoes yet another fantasy persona of Karen for Denkare.
Ohhh... how I love Namco-Bandai doing such a great homage like that!


How in the world does Miria understand what she's saying?! Does she secretly understand the language and thought process of the chunnibyou? Has she been avidly watching Love, Chunnibyou, and Other Delusions or something?

I'm thinking because chunnibyou is considered a childish immature thing, the most childish and immature person of the cast would understand her the easiest.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on March 09, 2015, 12:32:44 AM
How in the world does Miria understand what she's saying?! Does she secretly understand the language and thought process of the chunnibyou? Has she been avidly watching Love, Chunnibyou, and Other Delusions or something?

There're a couple of people I thought could decipher Ranko-speak, but I didn't expect it to be Miria. Out of the 14, I was thinking Anzu. Out of the 100+, Asuka and Sana. I think they wanted something completely out of left field, though.

Personally, I don't know if it's guts or what, but there were multiple times where I thought, "Dang... and she still keeps it up." I liked her better in the anime, though when Ranko finally found out that Producer would listen to all her chuuni fantasies, I was thinking, "Get used to it, Producer. Get used to it reeeeeal fast." ^_^;;

Next episode Kanako, Rika, Riina unit or riot.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 09, 2015, 01:55:11 AM
Rewatched the episode again, it looks the next two CD debuts will each be in a trio unit, leaving the last ones to be debuted will be a duo unit.

Current Units

new generation: Uzuki, Mio, & Rin

LOVE LAIKA: Minami & Anastasia

Rosenburg Engel: Ranko

CANDY ISLAND: Anzu, Kanako, & Chieri

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 09, 2015, 02:24:50 PM
Predicted Units

Trio Unit #1: Kanako, Chieri, Rika

Trio Unit #2: Riina, Miria, & Miku

Duo Unit: Anzu & Kirari

Sadly, jossed.

The newest revealed unit is Kanako, Chieri, and Anzu forming "Candy Island".
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 09, 2015, 02:45:58 PM
Sadly, jossed.

The newest revealed unit is Kanako, Chieri, and Anzu forming "Candy Island".

Welp. That didn't last long. Though, that unit is super fitting.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 09, 2015, 04:23:07 PM
I'm mostly just shocked that they ditched Ankira. I kind of expected Kanako and Chieri to end up together in a unit, though.

Placing my bets on Miku and Rika being the last to debut too lol

YUKIIIIIIII
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 09, 2015, 07:13:41 PM
There're a couple of people I thought could decipher Ranko-speak, but I didn't expect it to be Miria. Out of the 14, I was thinking Anzu. Out of the 100+, Asuka and Sana.

Kaede understands her. Shoko when she's in crazy mode. Chihiro of course.

Then there are girls who can NEVER understand her. Fumika comes to mind (to literal minded).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 09, 2015, 09:42:57 PM
Found something interesting while surfing... Rearrange the units' names and...

CANDY
ISLAND
New generation
Decoration
E
Rosenburg
Engel
LOVE
LAIKA
A

If it's correct, the last unit name would start something like this:

E___ A____

Otherwise, take this with a grain of salt.
Also, looks like Anzu is using her Doppelganger Strategy lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 10, 2015, 02:29:16 AM
CANDY
ISLAND
New generation
D
E
Rosenburg
Engel
LOVE
LAIKA
A

Dammit, Japan. You and your clever acronyms.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on March 10, 2015, 03:36:15 AM
Sadly, jossed.

The newest revealed unit is Kanako, Chieri, and Anzu forming "Candy Island".

RIOT!!!!!!

YUKIIIIIIII

Hoping for a cameo. At least. Her talk track was really great.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 13, 2015, 02:30:26 PM
Ranko, so awkward.

Cutie, though.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on March 14, 2015, 09:17:17 AM
That last episode was interesting.

I'm glad to head Jupiter is doing well, and Airi proved to be a very good hostess for the group.
Kurumi Ohnuma and Shizuku Oikawa's unit was.. not surprising in the least.
Gotta admit though, the best part of the episode was when the Producer dressed up as a frog. He managed to out-cute Takane.. That's a horrifying thought.

The series is going on a break until July though, once they finish this cour. Several stations will apparently be airing the 2011 anime to fill in the time slot until it returns. During this rerun, Million Live will be giving away free HR cards and new NoMake dramas will be available to ML players. It's called "Platina Friday Night".
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Clear Blue on March 14, 2015, 04:43:07 PM
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l591/Jennifer_Au/CG%20Jupiter.jpg)

Oh ho ho, Jupiter having a world tour this year! That's interesting!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on March 14, 2015, 05:11:27 PM
Just so you know...we're celebrating the 10th anniversary in style!
PS: Half Life 3 second season confirmed.
http://zakitakubu.com/2015/03/14/the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-gets-2nd-season-in-summer-2015/ (http://zakitakubu.com/2015/03/14/the-idolmster-cinderella-girls-gets-2nd-season-in-summer-2015/)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 14, 2015, 10:02:59 PM
That last episode was interesting.

I'm kinda divided on it.

On the one hand, it showcased a lot of CG idols. There was a ton of Sachiko screen time, which certainly made lots of the egotistical idol's fans happy... and Anzu really got a chance to show she's more than a lazy girl to those who don't follow the card game/drama tracks. Also we got to see Anzu WITHOUT her Kirari interaction. On the other hand, episode 8 was 90% Ranko focused. Sorta disappointed that we didn't get a 90% show focused on a single idol like that. Episode 9 was split between the three Candy Island girls, with some thrown in for My Cute Self and Baseball. on the side.

I did really like the Sachiko stuff though... and the revelation that any unit Sachiko becomes part of, basically must have "My Cute Self" in it's name (given the name for the 142s).


Kurumi Ohnuma and Shizuku Oikawa's unit was.. not surprising in the least.

I know right? IIRC... isn't B.B. (Kurumi + Shizuku) a fanservice duo created by fan artists? Really cool that Namco gave it canon status if that's the case.
Loved how they mentioned that it was their ditzy (and I'm sure fan service filled) antics that caused the Quiz Show to be modified for the version shown in Episode 9.

Also was interesting that this confirms idols are not mutually locked into a single unit. Shizuku was also part of Sexy Guilty (with Sanae and Yuko). I think this means we can still get a Ankira, despite Anzu being in Candy Island.


***EDIT***
On a side note: Even as a follower of the drama cd's and game, I was surprised to note that Anzu picked the Science topic before Anime. Which means she has more confidence in science (and mathematics) than she does with anime... and we all know how HUGE of an anime fan Anzu is. Always realized she was far more intelligent than she lets on... but I never realized she was on that level of intellect: she's a mathematical genius.

***EDIT 2***
Also LOL at the end, when Anzu declared she was quitting. The look on the Producer's face (having gone through the whole ordeal with Mio) was priceless.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on March 14, 2015, 10:22:20 PM
I actually really liked this one, namely for the idol exposure and the fact Anzu isn't completely useless for once, and has developed some rather adorable quirks. Still not entirely sold on Chieri, though; she's thoroughly Yukiho 1.5.

That aside, the episode had a fun premise and with what little screen-time she had, Sae was straight-up class. Could we get an episode based on her and that fabulous hairband? Pretty please to the cheese? :3

Regarding the end skit, the result was rather unexpected, yet humorously fair. Now, I'm undoubtedly the only person who really wanted to see the bungee jump carry out like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCoyGbOkNQQ). Yes, I'm that hopelessly masochistic. :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 14, 2015, 10:44:52 PM
Wait (http://rinshibooty.tumblr.com/post/113630051268/ikaidoru-title-memories-artist-love-laika), what (http://rinshibooty.tumblr.com/post/113630076533).

Yeah, someone somehow got LOVE LAIKA's CD before it's release date just like with the Star!! CD... Memories is pretty solid!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 14, 2015, 10:59:37 PM
Wait (http://rinshibooty.tumblr.com/post/113630051268/ikaidoru-title-memories-artist-love-laika), what (http://rinshibooty.tumblr.com/post/113630076533).

Yeah, someone somehow got LOVE LAIKA's CD before it's release date just like with the Star!! CD... Memories is pretty solid!

OH, COME ON! Mine's not coming until next week at the earliest.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tafira on March 15, 2015, 12:39:51 AM
Guys, I think we lost.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-03-14/idolm@ster-cinderella-girls-to-air-in-split-seasons/.85960 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-03-14/idolm@ster-cinderella-girls-to-air-in-split-seasons/.85960)

RIP hopes and dreams?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 15, 2015, 12:53:35 AM
Guys, I think we lost.

I don't see how that means we lost. Lots of anime these days are only 13 episodes long. CG is going to be a full 26 episodes... not counting the inevitable OVA's and movie that are certain to come in the future. We're getting a short break between the full run. This too isn't unusual... there are lots of popular anime that got 26 episodes, divided into two 13 episode seasons, with a pause to either draw the next batch or just take a breather (to gauge full popularity and/or just build more hype).

If the second batch of 13 episodes was suddenly cancelled because lack of popularity -- which I'm certain will not happen -- then you can actually say we lost.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on March 15, 2015, 02:52:44 AM
On the one hand, it showcased a lot of CG idols. There was a ton of Sachiko screen time, which certainly made lots of the egotistical idol's fans happy... and Anzu really got a chance to show she's more than a lazy girl to those who don't follow the card game/drama tracks. Also we got to see Anzu WITHOUT her Kirari interaction. On the other hand, episode 8 was 90% Ranko focused. Sorta disappointed that we didn't get a 90% show focused on a single idol like that. Episode 9 was split between the three Candy Island girls, with some thrown in for My Cute Self and Baseball. on the side.

Pretty much what you said, except I'm cool with it. There were a lot of shoutouts this episode to a bunch of injokes, and I was laughing for most the episode. So, good episode.

Really nice to see Anzu without Kirari, and she's halfway redeemed and kinda stands on her own now. That's nice. Sachiko, Sae, and Yuki all got some good screen time too, without beating you over the head on what their schtick is supposed to be. We can't have Sachiko continually declaring herself to be cute every two seconds. She didn't, heck nobody did, and that's good. Nothing was forced, nothing felt unnatural.

Thing is, nobody really felt like they were in the episode for the sake of being there. This was more obvious in the beginning, where each of the 14 idols had to be around to make an appearance and say some line, and after a while, it seemed like... stuff was getting crammed into each episode for no other reason than to put stuff in. This episode, some of the 14 idols aren't even in it, and it makes sense. Heck, I don't remember seeing Kirari once in that episode.

But (File System CHeck) yeah, Yuki with some screen time. Promote all teh CDs!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 15, 2015, 04:22:23 PM
I saw on tumblr that apparently a Rika/Miria/Kirari unit is confirmed, named 凸レーション/DEKOration, with the "deco" being a pun with the kanji for huge because Kirari. Their song is apparently "let's go happy".

This is interesting because it would either mean a Miku/Riina duo or Miku and Riina going solo. The former would be more interesting because of their personalities, but the latter's probably more likely.

Spoiler tags galore!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 15, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
I saw on tumblr that apparently a Rika/Miria/Kirari unit is confirmed, named 凸レーション/DEKOration, with the "deco" being a pun with the kanji for huge because Kirari. Their song is apparently "let's go happy".

This is interesting because it would either mean a Miku/Riina duo or Miku and Riina going solo. The former would be more interesting because of their personalities, but the latter's probably more likely.

Spoiler tags galore!

Can you post a link to this, if you can.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 15, 2015, 04:38:28 PM
http://otakomu.jp/archives/234706.html
This was the page linked to. Take it with more than a grain of salt because it's probably incredibly easy to fake these things.

With the revelation somewhere or other that there's going to be 7 CDS in the ANIMATION PROJECT series, I'm actually inclined to say Cat Rock duo, since New Generations hasn't had their image song released yet.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 15, 2015, 05:11:31 PM
http://otakomu.jp/archives/234706.html
This was the page linked to. Take it with more than a grain of salt because it's probably incredibly easy to fake these things.

With the revelation somewhere or other that there's going to be 7 CDS in the ANIMATION PROJECT series, I'm actually inclined to say Cat Rock duo, since New Generations hasn't had their image song released yet.

How are we going to write that unit name in English =P?

The only thing that's on the real side is the release date, which is always on a Wednesday, the pricing, and the code. The rest should be taken as a grain of salt until the main website confirms/deconfirms it.

EDIT: Checked the main website. It's real.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 16, 2015, 05:28:51 PM
I think either Decoration or Dekoration works.

Producer babysitting the new unit in Shibuya will probably be hilarious. Looking forward to him being dragged into a purikura booth. 765P got that treatment, too.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 16, 2015, 08:07:34 PM
So Decoration it is.

Here's a preview of Episode 10. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IWlyvQfrb0)

Mika looks worried. That's no good. Guess the trio got lost or something.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 20, 2015, 04:50:05 PM
Sweet mother of suddenly voiced characters. Including a certain character voiced by a wake up girl.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 20, 2015, 05:27:50 PM
Am I the only person that sees little to nothing in Yui? All I see her as is a Miki clone. Moreso than ML Tsubasa.

Anyway, previews for the three songs packaged with CG BD Vol. 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD2-UISlKL0

Not that big a fan of Nocturne, tbh. Rin's S(mile)ING is a weird concept with weird execution. Uzuki's R-O-M-A-N-T-I-C NOW! is pretty decent, though.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on March 20, 2015, 05:54:08 PM
Yay, Yuka Yuka Radio got voiced! Congrats to Yui and Rina too!

Hmhm, it's kinda funny that we had so many Cute girls in a Passion episode. It makes me wonder how long before the cameo units are voiced!
(http://www.project-imas.com/w/images/thumb/c/ca/Ruffle_de_Square.png/586px-Ruffle_de_Square.png)(http://www.project-imas.com/w/images/thumb/e/ec/New_Wave.png/512px-New_Wave.png)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 20, 2015, 07:13:53 PM
Does anyone know the name of the panda toy that Kana had in the movie?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 21, 2015, 05:09:49 AM
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Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on March 22, 2015, 04:57:22 AM
Not that big a fan of Nocturne, tbh. Rin's S(mile)ING is a weird concept with weird execution. Uzuki's R-O-M-A-N-T-I-C NOW! is pretty decent, though.

Woah, Rin's S(mile)ING sounds WAAAY off. New Generation's READY!! was weird enough (pretty good though).
If only more Japanese Blu-ray discs came with English subtitles, like what happened with the Love Live! Japanese releases. I would love to import if English subtitles were at least present.

Also, A-1 is really being clever with their easter eggs. That Hibiki, Yayoi, Mami unit announced in the iM@S movie, and even the PUCHiM@S charms.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 22, 2015, 09:18:24 PM
Those posters...

Does this mean Miku is debuting with Riina?!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 22, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Yep and they don't get along from the looks of it.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 22, 2015, 10:11:12 PM
Posters!

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And at last
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I can't see any of them because apparently the image files are "broken". Can you link the site where you got em from?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 22, 2015, 10:26:51 PM
This where I found them. (http://shunei.egloos.com/5839795)

EDIT: So I listened to the full version of -Engel- Adanasu Tsurugi Hikari no Shirabe and it's glorious. Looking forward to its lyrics consdering how ridiculous fun it is =P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 23, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
EDIT: So I listened to the full version of -Engel- Adanasu Tsurugi Hikari no Shirabe and it's glorious. Looking forward to its lyrics consdering how ridiculous fun it is =P

Of course it was. Ranko is LIFE. Ranko is LOVE. There can be no other outcome but that.

Never stop saying it, but I can never get over the Yosei Teikoku vibe her original songs always project. Also... dat bass guitarist. The composer clearly remembers Ranko's first image song from the Master Collection. The bass guitar was ALL OVER the place with those cords... and this song was totally no different. Listen to that karaoke track. It's freaking epic.

On another note... the first time I listen to Engel, at the two-thirds part of the song, I was totally surprised with the sudden key change. I was like, "where are they going with this?" Then the instrumental solo kicks off, and I realized to myself: "To awesome land. That's where it's going."

Last but not least... dat drama track. Koume + Ranko. How is that NOT supreme? Because IT IS supreme.
Two girls who are so alike, yet so different, and always made of pure waifu material.
Drama track also gets bonus points for Koume giving a shout out to My Cute Self and the 142's.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 23, 2015, 03:21:33 PM
Engel sounds totally like a Blazblue track. Like, scarily so.

That is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Rihsa on March 23, 2015, 04:32:00 PM
Woah, Rin's S(mile)ING sounds WAAAY off. New Generation's READY!! was weird enough (pretty good though).
If only more Japanese Blu-ray discs came with English subtitles, like what happened with the Love Live! Japanese releases. I would love to import if English subtitles were at least present.

Also, A-1 is really being clever with their easter eggs. That Hibiki, Yayoi, Mami unit announced in the iM@S movie, and even the PUCHiM@S charms.

When did New Generation cover READY?

And I don't think the S(mile)ING cover's all that weird sounding. The genre shift and even BPM of the sing fits Rin. The chorus did sound a little weird because the words sounded a wee bit elongated, but otherwise I thought it was solid.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 23, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
Yep and they don't get along from the looks of it.

B-but muh Miku!

WHY?!?!?!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 23, 2015, 05:42:22 PM
Engel sounds totally like a Blazblue track. Like, scarily so.

That is not a bad thing.

To be fair Blazblue, and Guilty Gear by extension, sound like a lot of things actually. Daisuke is such a hardcore rock fan, he pays homage to practically everything. I hear a little of Malmsteen there... a little of Queen here...

That is not a bad thing.  ;)

On the issue of the karaoke track for Engel sounding like a game OST. If I told someone it was a remixed Castlevania BGM, I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't bat an eye at the claim. Its the whole gothic metal/dark wave thing.

***EDIT***
If you like Ranko's music style, in addition to listening to Yousei Teikoku, I strongly recommend looking up Ali Project as well. Lots of crossover with them.

***EDIT 2***
Just to clarify more on the Ali Project suggestion (since I got a PM from someone interested): melody-wise, Ranko hasn't performed anything Ali Project... yet that is. However she already matches their attire, stage persona, and lyrical style. IMHO, of all the CG idols, only Ranko and Koume comes closest to matching them without "deviating" from an idol's normal "moe niche". If Ranko were to perform a solo image song without heavy drums and guitar, I'd bet money she'd do an Ali Project inspired sound.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Amazing_Grace on March 23, 2015, 10:28:17 PM
***EDIT***
If you like Ranko's music style, in addition to listening to Yousei Teikoku, I strongly recommend looking up Ali Project as well. Lots of crossover with them.

I'm sorry I don't even watch the Cinderella Girls anime but

I have to help endorse this. I love Ali Project, and from what I've heard of Yousei Teikoku (which admittedly isn't much), the sound is similar.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: liza94 on March 23, 2015, 10:39:02 PM
I'm sorry I don't even watch the Cinderella Girls anime but

You should! The Producer is so cool and funny! Derem@s has only one disadvantage: everything is from "New Generations"' point of view. It's like the creators tell us: "These girls are The Main Trio. We won't tell you much about them separately, so deal with it.".
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 24, 2015, 12:04:31 AM
I have to help endorse this. I love Ali Project, and from what I've heard of Yousei Teikoku (which admittedly isn't much), the sound is similar.

Here's an eargasm for you. They've performed together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMNPr4W8F0w

8)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on March 24, 2015, 04:35:27 AM
When did New Generation cover READY?

And I don't think the S(mile)ING cover's all that weird sounding. The genre shift and even BPM of the sing fits Rin. The chorus did sound a little weird because the words sounded a wee bit elongated, but otherwise I thought it was solid.

Search for it on YouTube; it's a full-blown new version, but the instrumentals remain the same. It was pretty good though, but obviously the original is better =P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Rihsa on March 24, 2015, 05:35:43 AM
Yeah I'm not finding it. I only found a MAD and this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TUktH5s46o), which is just a fan mash up of READY!! and Kagayaku Sekai no Mahou.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Amazing_Grace on March 24, 2015, 07:54:20 PM
You should! The Producer is so cool and funny! Derem@s has only one disadvantage: everything is from "New Generations"' point of view. It's like the creators tell us: "These girls are The Main Trio. We won't tell you much about them separately, so deal with it.".

I really can't. I want to--I'm interested in Cinderella Girls, and since I can't play it, I'd like to watch the anime. But I just don't have the time, I have a thousand other things I want to watch more...
I'd love to get involved in this, but I really just can't.

Here's an eargasm for you. They've performed together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMNPr4W8F0w

8)

holy crap
That was amazing.
Thank you. ;-;
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 25, 2015, 09:50:53 PM
Now that I've spent a few days listening to the drama track on the Rozenburg Engel, I've noticed a few things.

#1: It's easy to get Ranko off her "groove" when someone changes the subject on her. She's not like Nana -- she won't completely derail her train into oblivion -- but she does require a few moments to gather her wits and get back into her fantasy character.

#2: Ranko being roommates with Koume wasn't coincidence. Nor her being the partner on her drama track. I'm thinking the Producer associated that Ranko was a horror idol because of Koume. She wears goth loli fashion and has a fascination with the darkness -- only of a different style -- so the Producer incorrectly assumed they were the same and be compatible (using the logic that the Producer was aware of Koume's gimmick before recruiting Ranko).

#3: Ranko doesn't have any idea what many of the various non-Japanese words she uses actually means. Rosenburg's connection to being Bara for example.. They just sound cool to her. The anime did hint on this though, seeing how Ranko didn't know Engel was Tenshi despite it's close spelling/pronunciation to Angel. However she didn't know what the ENTIRE title was... not just that one word.

#4: Koume seriously terrifies the hell out of Ranko in general. :D

#5: The liner notes have the full drama track's transcript in text print, so everyone can have the Ranko-speak translation for themselves. I think this is the only iM@S drama track to ever get a full transcript in the booklet.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 27, 2015, 12:46:28 AM
(http://idolmaster.jp/blog/vy4dffxn2qf1/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/POP.jpg)

【Cure Maid Cafe Collaboration Menu】
■new generations' Slogan Dish ¥1,100+tax
■LOVE LAIKA's White Stew ¥1,100+tax
■new generations' Sweet Dish ¥700+tax
■Cinderella Fruit Pancake ¥700+tax
■Happy Princess Parfait ¥750+tax
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 27, 2015, 12:51:21 AM
【Cure Maid Cafe Collaboration Menu】
■new generations' Slogan Dish ¥1,100+tax
■LOVE LAIKA's White Stew ¥1,100+tax
■new generations' Sweet Dish ¥700+tax
■Cinderella Fruit Pancake ¥700+tax
■Happy Princess Parfait ¥750+tax

New Generation's dish WOULD have Fried Chicken! X)!

In other news, my Love Laika CD FINALLY came in, yay! I have the booklet that comes with the lyrics for Memories and Yunabae Present. If anybody needs me to scan tose, let me know. I also got some sheet of paper with a serial number. Anybody have any idea what it's for?

EDIT: The Drama CD was pretty cute. Anya saying that the man she likes being her father was rather sweet and the two definitely make a great pair. Also, the yuri subtext was very real around the end. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 27, 2015, 11:27:04 AM
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Last unit name is * (Asterisk).

And here's the CD jacket.
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Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 27, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
Muh Miku! ;_;

Why is she not getting a solo debut?! Noooooo!!! ;_;

Miku, why?! ;_;
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 27, 2015, 12:31:41 PM
Muh Miku! ;_;

Why is she not getting a solo debut?! Noooooo!!! ;_;

Miku, why?! ;_;

She's going to be in an unit with Riina together anyways. We knew that since episode 8-9 and Columbia mentioning that there are going to be 6 CDs after Star!!.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 27, 2015, 04:00:47 PM
We all know who we're waiting to see, or rather hear, in this upcoming episode. it's been long enough give us our rocker
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 27, 2015, 05:40:03 PM
We all know who we're waiting to see, or rather hear, in this upcoming episode. it's been long enough give us our rocker

Sadly, she didn't appear at all! Not even for a single frame!

I found this episode to be decent. Miku and Riina's relationship was certainly entertaining and some of their moments were rather funny.

And since the unit is called Asterisk, we can officially confirm that:

Candy
Island
New generations
DEkoration
Rosenburg
Engel
Love
Laika
Asterisk
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 27, 2015, 07:34:02 PM
(CASUALLY FLIPS A TABLE)

I was stalking the actual game at work because they post a cast of who's in the episode and... No Rocker-chan! What the heck. :L
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on March 27, 2015, 11:18:29 PM
And since the unit is called Asterisk, we can officially confirm that:

Candy
Island
New generations
DEkoration
Rosenburg
Engel
Love
Laika
Asterisk

While spelling Cinderella is interesting, I sorta think they missed a MAJOR chance with naming the Miku + Riina unit as something like Rokcat Ship.  :P

That aside... the episode was really fun to watch.

Wished they showed Syoko snap in that scene Miku and Riina were arguing during breakfast. Was a perfect opportunity!

Also... not enough Chihiro Senkawa. Never enough Chihiro Senkawa.


***EDIT***
On a more serious note...

Are both of Miku's parents still alive/living together? That phone call Riina had with her mother, and then the quick scene of that photo with a child Miku wearing cat ears with her parents, is really foreboding. It would really explain Miku's obsession with cat ears, if that's one of the last memories she has of a parent or both parents.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SakuraMaxX on March 28, 2015, 12:53:12 AM
On a more serious note...

Are both of Miku's parents still alive/living together? That phone call Riina had with her mother, and then the quick scene of that photo with a child Miku wearing cat ears with her parents, is really foreboding. It would really explain Miku's obsession with cat ears, if that's one of the last memories she has of a parent or both parents.

She just lives away from home since her family's from Osaka.  Would be kinda cool if the anime later touches up more on the whole thing about how some idols are from the other side of the country (or world) and how being away from home affects them.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on March 28, 2015, 04:21:15 AM
Yeah I'm not finding it. I only found a MAD and this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TUktH5s46o), which is just a fan mash up of READY!! and Kagayaku Sekai no Mahou.

Oh, I wasn't aware that it was fanmade ^^; Sorry about that.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on March 29, 2015, 08:29:14 PM
I hardly paid attention to the subtitles this episode, I knew they'd be horrible.

Meh, I'm cool with Riina and Miku being in a unit. It was pretty fun. I think next episode will wrap up the first half of the anime... I don't know what'll be in the Fall, but hopefully we get some good idol drama then.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 30, 2015, 08:02:22 AM
I'm thoroughly disappointed by the anime sexualizing most girls yet not even showing a proper midriff or Rika since apparently lolis are bad.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 30, 2015, 08:22:38 AM
I'm thoroughly disappointed by the anime sexualizing most girls yet not even showing a proper midriff or Rika since apparently lolis are bad.
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Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 30, 2015, 01:02:41 PM
I'm thoroughly disappointed by the anime sexualizing most girls yet not even showing a proper midriff or Rika since apparently lolis are bad.

This "problem" isn't new in the first place, especially in anime and I don't see it as a problem unless it's very absurd. Annoying yes, but sex sells sadly. What do you mean by proper midriff? I don't see it as silly or anything. IM@S is pretty tame about it, though there are exceptions (looking at you ML). Your examples don't hold weight because character wise, the Jougasaki sisters have no problems with dressing revealing costumes (this isn't even Mika's most revealing one). As for lolis, it's not the characters, it's the fans and people like you perceiving them as such and those ARE the problem ones. Also, don't double post. The edit button exists for a reason.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 30, 2015, 03:45:55 PM
Sorry but can't edit as a guest.
Also don't tell me you can't spot the difference between the detail they put into drawing the midriff of the other girls and Rika/Akagi, who like like as if they were hastily drown in MS paint without any given details.
And ESPECIALLY BECAUSE CHARACTERWISE RIKA DRESSES IN REVEALING OUTFIT do I have a problem with the anime NOT EVEN ONCE SHOWING HER IN A BIT REVEALING OUTFIT. Is it hard to grasp?
I am talking about the anime only, if you have somehow didn't read that.
And "lolis are bad" was sarcastic, since I only conveyed how tha anime portrays them: "Lolis are bad so we can't show Rika in revealing outfit, here have her in baggy trousers and stupid frilly dress, while we draw her navel without any defining tone or curve".
Anime staff is loli hating shit, in short.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 30, 2015, 04:06:37 PM
Sorry but can't edit as a guest.
Also don't tell me you can't spot the difference between the detail they put into drawing the midriff of the other girls and Rika/Akagi, who like like as if they were hastily drown in MS paint without any given details.
And ESPECIALLY BECAUSE CHARACTERWISE RIKA DRESSES IN REVEALING OUTFIT do I have a problem with the anime NOT EVEN ONCE SHOWING HER IN A BIT REVEALING OUTFIT. Is it hard to grasp?
I am talking about the anime only, if you have somehow didn't read that.
And "lolis are bad" was sarcastic, since I only conveyed how tha anime portrays them: "Lolis are bad so we can't show Rika in revealing outfit, here have her in baggy trousers and stupid frilly dress, while we draw her navel without any defining tone or curve".
Anime staff is loli hating shit, in short.

Ah, I understand now. Yeah, I see your point. They probably did this to avoid getting into 'trouble'. If you want to see Rika and Miria in revealing oufits, check out their wiki pages here. You'll see them (though, Miria had like... one or maybe two at best).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 30, 2015, 04:21:12 PM
Lolicons are gross though lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 30, 2015, 04:23:56 PM
Lolicons are gross though lol
That, I agree, =P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 30, 2015, 04:34:32 PM
I hope you are joking guys.
And if you're not, I advise you to not be as narrow-minded.

Also, I don't want to see them in revealing outfits just for the heck of it, especially Akagi, but Rika should have gotten a decent shot and outfit which would fit her image in the anime, making her into a cutesy type was a bad idea.
And if they were afraid of "getting into trouble" (for showing midriff? nah) they should have cut down on her dirty erotic talk instead, that was completely needless for everyone.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 30, 2015, 08:10:42 PM
There's something intrinsically wrong in my opinion with finding kids sexy, but I digress... I don't think its an appropriate thing to talk about on a public forum with varying groups using said forum.

Rika's sexy talk is a little over the top though tbh. I remember it being more scaled down in the drama CDS and such.


http://youtu.be/92lkdkF3xak
Episode 12 preview.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on March 30, 2015, 09:05:13 PM
For what it's worth, the supposed lack of detail can be rationalized by two things; one is that for being so young these idols haven't 'developed' the curves you're looking for. That, and as in the above picture, Miria's midriff isn't the central focus of the scene, so there's little need for it to be emphasized.

Now having said this, that's as much as I'm touching the subject.

Are both of Miku's parents still alive/living together? That phone call Riina had with her mother, and then the quick scene of that photo with a child Miku wearing cat ears with her parents, is really foreboding. It would really explain Miku's obsession with cat ears, if that's one of the last memories she has of a parent or both parents.

This caught my eye, especially. Hurray for character depth in someone who left a bad impression come episode 5!1~!1!one!! Nice to see Riina has that soft side, too.

http://youtu.be/92lkdkF3xak
Episode 12 preview.

Cue Minami episode? All of my yes. :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 31, 2015, 06:43:24 AM
For what it's worth, the supposed lack of detail can be rationalized by two things; one is that for being so young these idols haven't 'developed' the curves you're looking for. That, and as in the above picture, Miria's midriff isn't the central focus of the scene, so there's little need for it to be emphasized.

No, it's much more simple than that, and it shows on every scene of the series so far.
The staff hates lolis, or at least don't like them. That one is for sure.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on March 31, 2015, 07:04:18 AM
No, it's much more simple than that, and it shows on every scene of the series so far.
The staff hates lolis, or at least don't like them. That one is for sure.

At this point, cut it out. You're making this a big deal out of nothing and I don't care a crap if the staff hates lolis or not because YOU'RE making it the problem for yourself. You can call me narrow-minded all you want, but if you brought this again, there'll be consequences. No exceptions.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 31, 2015, 08:11:45 AM
I hope that you will experience once when it is like when the staff hates what you like, or "you care a crap about" in your words.
And then have as much sympathy as you show. Good job.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on March 31, 2015, 09:05:57 AM
I hope that you will experience once when it is like when the staff hates what you like, or "you care a crap about" in your words.
And then have as much sympathy as you show. Good job.

It's not like you've done a good job validating your fairness when you pull reasons out of your ass and dismiss anything that disagrees with it. I'd also have this subject dropped, already.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 31, 2015, 09:09:06 AM
Feel free to drop the topic, I'm done voicing my complaint that ruined the adaptation for me, but to be honest, anime as a media is no place for anyone liking lolis, not anymore.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 31, 2015, 09:27:44 AM
No, it's much more simple than that, and it shows on every scene of the series so far.
The staff hates lolis, or at least don't like them. That one is for sure.

To be honest, it's more like the Japanese anime industry in general have began to cut down in the sexualization of lolis as of late, due to the political controversy it creates. Even if it's not the industry as a whole and even just in the staff of CG anime, the point stands still, especially when Japanese politicians are passing laws that are cutting down on this.

In other words, it's not that the staff hates lolis, it's that Japanese politicians do.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 31, 2015, 02:54:11 PM
Then they should have just gone with some other kids, like Nina for example, but not Rika.
This adaptation is just shaming her, and her fans.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 31, 2015, 02:56:38 PM
What's this I hear about loli midriffs?

Its a rather neat detail that 346Pro is going to the same training camp that 765Pro went to in the movie. My only real fear is the PTSD that comes with the movie's events.

Cue Minami episode? All of my yes. :3

I wish, but it IS looking more like another NG episode. Haven't had one of those in a while.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 31, 2015, 03:01:42 PM
Then they should have just gone with some other kids, like Nina for example, but not Rika.
This adaptation is just shaming her, and her fans.

Do you really expect them displease her fans by not featuring her if she's that popular? I mean, she didn't get a Master CD or something for no reason at all.

Well, let's face it, Rika's appearance and depiction in the anime is a compromise between pleasing the fanbase and not offending sensibilities. Sure, it sucks, but what can we do? We just can't change the political climate overnight, could we?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on March 31, 2015, 04:00:27 PM
No, Rika's depiction is a displease to her fans, killing her popularity, shaming her character even disregarding that she's a passion type idol, and making her into Akagi #2, without even giving her some decent lines much unlike Kirari and needless to say, the perfect glorified sister Mika.
And it's not like midriffs can't be shown in anime according to current politics. It's not THAT bad. I didn't ask for making outright porn of her.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 31, 2015, 06:04:41 PM
Hoping for lots of 765 refs in this upcoming episode :3c Except for all the drama that occurred there.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on March 31, 2015, 09:22:53 PM
No, Rika's depiction is a displease to her fans, killing her popularity, shaming her character even disregarding that she's a passion type idol, and making her into Akagi #2, without even giving her some decent lines much unlike Kirari and needless to say, the perfect glorified sister Mika.
And it's not like midriffs can't be shown in anime according to current politics. It's not THAT bad. I didn't ask for making outright porn of her.

When you say that the depiction is "a displease to her fans, killing her popularity, shaming her character even disregarding that she's a passion type idol, and making her into Akagi #2, without even giving her some decent lines much unlike Kirari and needless to say, the perfect glorified sister Mika," you are already establishing yourself as someone who thinks that they speak for the whole Rika fandom, without any regard to what other Rika fans actually think.

In other words, how can you be so sure that her depiction in the anime has, in all certainty and absoluteness, demoted her status, decreased her popularity, displeased her fans and overall degraded her as a character? Do you have any backing on this, or this is simply your opinion?

And in the case of midriffs, I can assuredly say that, in accordance to what I see in the CG anime, her clothes are sexy, as compared the other loli idols. In fact, I don't really understand why your complaining about Rika being 'toned-down' in the anime, when she's comparably naughtier or more suggestive than the other girls her age, as indicated by her mannerisms and lines.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: StarSeeker on April 01, 2015, 10:01:19 AM
Hey i know that they are meant to only be 7 animation CDs coming out but do you think that when the second set of episodes are being shown we'll get more cause i really really like Riina and Miku's  We're the friends!?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 01, 2015, 12:12:05 PM
Hey i know that they are meant to only be 7 animation CDs coming out but do you think that when the second set of episodes are being shown we'll get more cause i really really like Riina and Miku's  We're the friends!?

Possibly. If I remember correctly, I think 2011 had two sets of CDs, one for each cour of the anime.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Heinzendegger on April 01, 2015, 01:19:47 PM
That's it for you then, and for me, I was waiting to see Rika's kind of ero-cute outfits animated, but got complete disappointment.
I couldn't care less how they dress Akagi to be honest.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 01, 2015, 01:26:54 PM
Possibly. If I remember correctly, I think 2011 had two sets of CDs, one for each cour of the anime.
Nah, they only had one, except for Namassuka. There were seven CDS, just released much less frequently and with a lot more content.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 01, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
Nah, they only had one, except for Namassuka. There were seven CDS, just released much less frequently and with a lot more content.

Oh really? Ah, well maybe CG will have its own equivalent to Namassuka that includes the insert songs or something.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: StarSeeker on April 01, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
oh ok i'll just have to keep my hopes up lol  :)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on April 03, 2015, 07:27:23 PM
I loved Episode 12. I wasn't a fan of Minami before, but now she's worming her way into my heart.

Also the Minami x Anya ship is going full steam ahead.  ;)

You know things are bad when Kirari isn't in happy-happy genki mode. Minami really showed her stuff by finding a fix.

Really enjoyed the plot detail that Ranko being a solo idol, would have some impact on her ability to work in a group.

Also cheered when the montage had 346 Pro singing 765 Pro songs.  8)

On a side note: I hope we get a Producer episode in the future. Would really like to know what makes the man tick the way he does.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on April 03, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Also cheered when the montage had 346 Pro singing 765 Pro songs.  8)

Those are Cinderella Girls songs as well...

Episode's nice overall.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on April 03, 2015, 09:45:59 PM
Those are Cinderella Girls songs as well...

lol... you know, I just realized you're right... it's a CG song. For some reason I thought it was a 765 song. The tune it uses reminds me of something they sang. I'll have to break out my song collection and see if I can find it.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 03, 2015, 11:37:41 PM
http://youtu.be/SvS4-8Rbcks
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on April 03, 2015, 11:46:14 PM
... If I were a woman, that'd have given me chest hair from hell to back.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on April 06, 2015, 06:39:06 AM
On a much more serious note -- and now that I've time to reflect on this -- episode 12 has what is easily my favourite scene in the series thus far.

It's the brief moment Minami had with Anya whilst everyone dozed off. Not only do you see the real chemistry of their resulting bond, but Minami's initial weakness being tendered by Anya's motherhood has me swoon. Reminds me of my own mom. Scenes like this really bring out what made the original series great.

As well...

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/345dg5e.jpg)

Inb4boundlessyuriimplications. :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 06, 2015, 07:36:39 PM
It's not even surprising Rika and Minami did absolutely nothing at all, even the Candy Island girls or Kirari had some lines with meaning.

> the girl that helped Cinderella Project gain their confidence in training and was designated leader for this very reason
> did nothing at all

.... Am I missing something?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 06, 2015, 08:43:30 PM

Anyway, I do agree that this was the best episode yet and I was happy to see Minami get some focus, especially with the fact that she's leading the live. Knowing A-1, I expected them to go with either Rin or Uzuki, but I was pleasantly surprised that they went with a character who seemed like the best possible choice rather than go for the painfully obvious because "lol main character". I hope the second cour gives everyone an episode, so that we can go more in-depth on them and their character, because I feel some of them need it. Looking at you, Candy Island.

Though, I gotta say, for someone who was designated earlier as the "main character" of the anime, Uzuki hasn't really done much outside of a few episodes. Besides EP1 and 7, she doesn't really do a whole lot besides show up with the others and be Ms. Ganbarimasu. Rin and Mio have done much more in the overall narrative than Uzuki so far. I hope that changes somewhat with the second cour where Uzuki does more.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 06, 2015, 10:09:38 PM
Goddamn, I really wanna see this ep. Too bad I'm on vacation 6000 feet above sea level. :c
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on April 06, 2015, 11:01:04 PM
6000 feet as in flying? Where are you off to? The sooner you see this episode, the better.

Anyway, I do agree that this was the best episode yet and I was happy to see Minami get some focus, especially with the fact that she's leading the live. Knowing A-1, I expected them to go with either Rin or Uzuki, but I was pleasantly surprised that they went with a character who seemed like the best possible choice rather than go for the painfully obvious because "lol main character". I hope the second cour gives everyone an episode, so that we can go more in-depth on them and their character, because I feel some of them need it. Looking at you, Candy Island.

Though, I gotta say, for someone who was designated earlier as the "main character" of the anime, Uzuki hasn't really done much outside of a few episodes. Besides EP1 and 7, she doesn't really do a whole lot besides show up with the others and be Ms. Ganbarimasu. Rin and Mio have done much more in the overall narrative than Uzuki so far. I hope that changes somewhat with the second cour where Uzuki does more.

Having it as Minami makes a nice subversion, given the amount of emphasis for New Generations. She does have that maturity about her which makes it a proper fit, no less. A solid contrast to this was Mio, who while designated herself to a leadership role, she was in over her head until she found the error of her way. That's character development for you.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 07, 2015, 01:26:52 AM
I'm in Idaho and Internet access is completely spotty, unfortunately. Oh well, something to watch later.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tafira on April 08, 2015, 04:12:58 AM
I should probably catch up on the ~5 episodes I've missed before I look at this thread huh...
From what I can see it seems it progressed nicely!
I'll make sure to fit some time in this weekend.

School's catching up to me...  :(
ap exams in a month sfdsgdfg
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 10, 2015, 07:26:57 PM
And that's a cour! Cya all July 17th!

This was a pretty neat ending. It was nice to see Nao and Karen finally show up before the end of the first cour.

All in all, 13 weeks decently spent. Now for the three-month wait for EP14, unless I wanna rewatch 765's anime.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on April 10, 2015, 10:33:09 PM
Overall, that was a really REALLY good first cour I'm excited for the second! There's even a bit of foreshadowing with a possible female antagonist from a rival production. Also, NAO AND KAREN.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 11, 2015, 12:53:29 AM
Holy animation bump, this was a really good looking episode. Would have liked to see Syoko on stage animated, but I'll take what I can get.

That aside, it was kind of the same plot as episode 13 of the original anime (big concert, stress, someone overworks themselves and nearly fails) but it was done in a fresh enough way! Seeing Minami, who had been kind of sidelined until last episode, get a ton of character development was great as well. Waiting for 3 months is gonna be hard but this was a pretty darn good season finale.

Also who wants to bet that Goin' is our second season OP?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on April 11, 2015, 01:06:47 AM
Who could this mysterious woman be? Kuroi-jiji's cousin or something? (loljk) Maybe someone even crueler than Toru Shiraki (I-1 Club president)?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on April 12, 2015, 07:04:37 PM
And that's a cour! Cya all July 17th!

Yeah, we'll see ya all right before the 10th anniversary concert. Or after, if you're lookin' to score tickets. Methinks there'll be some announcements in the next couple of months.

I dunno about this split-cour thing, it makes me impatient. But eh, it means more eps, so it's all good.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on April 12, 2015, 09:31:39 PM
Overall, that was a really REALLY good first cour I'm excited for the second! There's even a bit of foreshadowing with a possible female antagonist from a rival production. Also, NAO AND KAREN.

Agreed. This episode was incredibly good and makes an excellent setup for the second arc. I really enjoyed how it tied up several earlier plot strings (like Ranko learning team coordination), while opening several new ones (like Triad Primus).

Also... the Producer got serious respect from his idols. I liked that. He's been fighting hard for them to be successful, and after all the missteps and misunderstandings, it seems they all realize this. Go Producer! Fight for everlasting idolmastering!

The mysterious woman foreshadowing was interesting. I'm wondering how she will be presented. She doesn't have to be from a rival production: she could be a rival producer within 346 Production. Just because you work for the same company, doesn't mean you don't have competition from within. If the woman is from a rival corporation though... how might that go, I wonder? 346 Production has been shown as an incredibly massive conglomerate. It pretty much dominates everything media entertainment related (outside of 765 Pro). Another economic juggernaut throwing it's weight around, could have unique situations.

On the other hand, her involvement could just be someone who knows or has worked with the Producer. A past associate as it were. She might be less a threat to the idols, and more of an opportunity to reveal more about why the Producer has become the man he currently is.

***EDIT***
Just dawned on me... with all the Cinderella imagery in this series... that woman is probably the Evil Stepmother that's so integral to the original story.

***EDIT 2***
Called Mishiro 345 instead of 346.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 13, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
The CG game is listing Karen and Nao as newbie 346 idols, so unless they pull a Miki I doubt they'll be part of a rival production. Like some have said, I think the competition is gonna come from within. In 765's case, they were so small that a bigger company throwing their weight around was a huge roadblock, but 346 is big enough (and Mika has mentioned different branches), so I'm guessing our antagonist this next cour is gonna be another 346 producer.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on April 13, 2015, 03:26:31 AM
The CG game is listing Karen and Nao as newbie 346 idols, so unless they pull a Miki I doubt they'll be part of a rival production. Like some have said, I think the competition is gonna come from within. In 765's case, they were so small that a bigger company throwing their weight around was a huge roadblock, but 346 is big enough (and Mika has mentioned different branches), so I'm guessing our antagonist this next cour is gonna be another 346 producer.

I'm very much inclined to agree with you. Indeed it's likely Karen and Nao will get assigned under the "evil stepmother" for more drama.
Also if the rival producer also has a dozen idols under her care, having them shift under the CG Producer if she's abusive to them, would help explain how he gets his roster to grow into insane size.

We also still don't know who the Producer for "established idols" like Koume and Syoko work under. Some could be hers.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on April 13, 2015, 09:33:31 AM
Ya know... now that I went back to rewatch some of the earlier episodes...

There's that foreshadowing and fan theory that idols like Mika and Kaede used to be under the CG Producer, and that "detached unemotional" personality he started with in Episode 1 is a reaction to losing them and not wanting to be hurt again.

I suppose that woman is the one who takes away his idols.  :(
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on April 16, 2015, 01:04:01 PM
As an aside...

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/1433moi.jpg)

Shiburin feet.

You also make a keen observation, Nargrakhan; that one earlier bit in the series where it's said CG-P had suppressed his persona now looks to come into play. It's a plausible theory, but so long as it means more Kaede exposure then I'm all ears. Bring on genderswapped Kuroi.

Looking back some, I'm not entirely sure why there was even a cour split. Was the reception of the series lukewarm at best?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on April 22, 2015, 04:53:11 PM

Candy Island's Happyx2 Days is fun too, but Anzu's rapping on top of the other two girls' singing is kinda jarring. It's still strangely catchy, but certainly not in the same way as Miria's Romantic Now.

Regarding LET'S GO HAPPY!!, Kirari and Miria say the "L-O-V-E sexy Rika" line and Rika says the "sexy power" line. The song is alright, but it's too loud for my tastes.

Anzu's lines are pretty much the reason why I didn't bother translating Happyx2 Days =P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 22, 2015, 05:02:36 PM
Personally, my ranking for the songs is this:

Memories > Happyx2 Days > LENGE > OwOver=LET'S GO HAPPY > Dekitate Evo! Revo! Generation!

Memories was so fantastic for me and Happy×2 Days is pretty catchy for me. I didn't mind the Anzu rapping, tbh. Dekitate, however, is just too bland and forgettable for me to rank it high. Its not bad, just generic.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on April 22, 2015, 05:08:02 PM
Regarding LET'S GO HAPPY!!, Kirari and Miria say the "L-O-V-E sexy Rika" line and Rika says the "sexy power" line. The song is alright, but it's too loud for my tastes.

Anzu's lines are pretty much the reason why I didn't bother translating Happyx2 Days =P

I thought it went:
Kirari: KYUN KYUN power~
Rika: GAO GAO power~
Kirari: Kirarin power~
Miria: Sexy power~
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on April 22, 2015, 05:28:01 PM
I thought it went:
Kirari: KYUN KYUN power~
Rika: GAO GAO power~
Kirari: Kirarin power~
Miria: Sexy power~
It goes like this:

Kirari: Kyunkyun pawaa Rika & Miria: (kyunkyun pawaa)
Rika: Gaogao PAWAA! Kirari &  Miria: (Gaogao PAWAA! )
Kirari: Kirarin pawaa Rika &  Miria: (Kirarin pawaa)
Rika: SEKUSHII PAWAA! Kirari &  Miria: (SEKUSHII PAWAA!)

Kirari: HAPIHAPI desho Rika &  Miria: (HAPIHAPI desho)
 Miria: Kawaii desho Kirari & Rika: (kawaii desho)
Kirari: Haguhagu shite Rika &  Miria: (haguhagu shite)
 Miria: Nadenade shite Kirari & Rika: (nadenade shite)

Anyways, song opinions time starting from the worst.

Dekitate Evo! Revo! Generation!: As soon the heard the small bits from Episode 6, I knew that it's going to be super generic, and boy, I was right. It doesn't help that the vocals are loud and the lyrics look really poorly thought out.

LET'S GO HAPPY!!: The song is alright, but it's too loud and sugar-cutesy for my tastes.

-Engel- Adanasu Tsurugi Hikari no Shirabe: Other than having a stupid way of reading the title like the previous one (I just realized that LEGNE is Engel backwards. How did I not noticed that =X), this one was pretty decent. The chorus parts is nice, but the verse parts were pretty jaggy.

Happy×2 Days: I say for another freaking love song, CANDY ISLAND sounds great. Anzu's lines were pretty amusing at least.

ØωØver!!: The duo harmonize pretty nicely and I like the fact that their actresses wrote the lyrics for the song. I think that's cool and I had no clue why A-1 didn't do the same with Yakusoku context-wise.

Memories: Yeah, it's not much a surprise that this song is my personal favorite of the six songs even though it's an usual, though beautiful heartbreak song. It had a good mix of catchiness, harmony, and power. I say Aya and Sumire did a fantastic job.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on April 22, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
Speaking of CG songs -- and having only found what tracks I could -- I've been meaning to buy the Love Laika CD. Does anyone know where I can do that, and preferably through PayPal? I could use my delicious, OTP, 320kbps fix. One for Ranko's solo artistry would be nice if that's out, too. :3

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 22, 2015, 08:30:12 PM
Speaking of CG songs -- and having only found what tracks I could -- I've been meaning to buy the Love Laika CD. Does anyone know where I can do that, and preferably through PayPal? I could use my delicious, OTP, 320kbps fix. One for Ranko's solo artistry would be nice if that's out, too. :3

I bought my CD through CDJapan using Debit, so there's that. Not sure if they take PayPal, but they probably do. However, it took them a WHILE to actually charge me for the purchase, so if you order through there, be sure to track your finances and purchases often.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Naryoril on April 22, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
I bought my CD through CDJapan using Debit, so there's that. Not sure if they take PayPal, but they probably do. However, it took them a WHILE to actually charge me for the purchase, so if you order through there, be sure to track your finances and purchases often.

They do take paypal. If you do a preorder with them they will deduct the money from Paypal directly though. If you pay with a credit card they will only take the money when they send the item.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chance4U on April 24, 2015, 09:24:46 AM
Do you think the anime introduced characters will get CINDERELLA MASTER CDs?
Also, the only unvoiced characters that were in the commercials for the game that aired during the anime are:

CM 2: Shinobu, Honoka, Yuzu and Azuki
CM 3: Yoshino, Shin and Asuka
CM 4: Hajime and Kyoko

Everyone else featured currently has (or is getting) a voice, so I'm hoping this means we'll be getting Frilled Square and the long time favorites voiced soon.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 24, 2015, 11:16:55 AM
Do you think the anime introduced characters will get CINDERELLA MASTER CDs?
Also, the only unvoiced characters that were in the commercials for the game that aired during the anime are:

CM 2: Shinobu, Honoka, Yuzu and Azuki
CM 3: Yoshino, Shin and Asuka
CM 4: Hajime and Kyoko

Everyone else featured currently has (or is getting) a voice, so I'm hoping this means we'll be getting Frilled Square and the long time favorites voiced soon.
I think it'll be a while before voiced frilled square, but voiced Asuka and Shin wouldn't surprise me. Shin is just the sort of character they've been giving a voice too- decently popular but mostly out of left field.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on April 24, 2015, 05:22:46 PM
Changing to a nicer subject....

How do you think that Karen and Nao will be introduced to the 346 agency? Because as far as we know by the end of season 1, they aren't idols yet (at least that was what I think xddd).

Will they be produced by the mystery, and obviously evil, woman that appeared at the end of season 1? It would be also a perfect chance to know how other Producers of the same agency could work (Mika mentioned that she and her fellow idols have their own producer, and I think it would be nice if other Producers could appear)

 As it would also give me more inspirations and ideas for the role-playing game that I'm making of idolm@ster for my friends xddd :P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on April 24, 2015, 05:46:05 PM
Yeah, they will. The rest will wait til July. Good luck on your role-playing. Pardon my harshness over there, but it had to be done. I was hoping that this thread will be locked with all this mess.

Thanks and don't worry, I understand you ^^

And I can't wait till July for season 2 it would be awesome if we also get new unit songs for Cinderella Project (Really loved Memories and Happyx2 Days :D )
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 24, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
I think Nao and Karen will be introduced as rivals but maybe some Triad Primus conflict will be introduced :0

Also I just PMed Yunabeco to maybe lock guest posting on this section, so when they get back to me we may be seeing less of this dude lol.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on April 24, 2015, 06:27:38 PM
I think Nao and Karen will be introduced as rivals but maybe some Triad Primus conflict will be introduced :0

Also I just PMed Yunabeco to maybe lock guest posting on this section, so when they get back to me we may be seeing less of this dude lol.

It would be awesome if we could have at least a Triad Primus song (although I hope that this time, the anime staff don't cause a mess with the drama like with what happened with the Mio diva fiasco).

And cool although we should also ask to lock guest post in the Cinderella Girls normal section (in Other Im@s game), cause I think that I saw him lurking there before (when the Cinderella Girls election were announced).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on April 24, 2015, 06:56:41 PM
Honestly Im really excited where they take cour 2. I wanna see who this evil stepmother lady is and who exactly are her idols. Maybe she does have Nao and Karen like said above and maybe has eyes to take a CG project girl for herself (Rin??)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on April 24, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
Maybe shoot me a link to that RP, I love rping :'D

Yeah, maybe Rin will be pulled between NG and the Dark Side. She seems pretty close to the other girls in her trio plus the Producer but maybe Kuroi-chan is a good manipulator... I can see her playing off of Rin's reaction to the Mio incident.

There's a user in the main CG thread who has the same Miria and Rika obsession and rabid attempts to defend pedophilia so I think our anon is sockpuppeting tbh. An IP check would be enough to rule that out tho.

Thanks for the words of good luck. If you understand Spanish, I would gladly pass you a link, cause I'm doing the rp to a friend of mine, where he is the Producer of a new agency that has a mix of Cinderella Girls and Million Live idols ^^

As long as it doesn't cause too much forced drama like what happened with the Mio situation, I'm ok with that ^^
And yeah I saw that guy too after the results of the last cinderella Girls election...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 24, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
I don't speak a word of Spanish, unfortunately :V thanks for the offer though!

I expect to see more rival idols pop up as well. With Asuka being promoted a ton, I wouldn't be surprised to see her... I can totally see Kanade as a rival too.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on April 24, 2015, 07:15:26 PM
I don't speak a word of Spanish, unfortunately :V thanks for the offer though!

I expect to see more rival idols pop up as well. With Asuka being promoted a ton, I wouldn't be surprised to see her... I can totally see Kanade as a rival too.

No problem, and don't worry. Maybe I'll create a thread (Idk where exactly xddd), where I can ask to people with more knowledge about the characters, and for plot ideas and advice, and to hear their opinions, and if I find a place or site where to make it, maybe I can organize an Idolm@ster rpg, I dunno ^^

And Yeah I can see Asuka and Mirei as future rivals in the anime (Mirei was in a high place of the cute category in the last elections) and maybe it would be the perfect chance to introduce Momoka "the forgotten" xdddd. Kanade, Frederica and Shiki are also potential options for rivals.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on April 24, 2015, 07:17:46 PM
No problem, and don't worry. Maybe I'll create a thread (Idk where exactly xddd), where I can ask to people with more knowledge about the characters, and for plot ideas and advice, and to hear their opinions, and if I find a place or site where to make it, maybe I can organize an Idolm@ster rpg, I dunno ^^

Community Works is where you can post stuff that you make like fan art, fanficition, and fan game ideas. I currently have a wrestling game idea up there (*wink wink*) so check that out if you want. I can probably give you some info on certain characters, though others probably have more knowledge than me. I'd personally be happy to help.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on April 24, 2015, 07:43:38 PM
Community Works is where you can post stuff that you make like fan art, fanficition, and fan game ideas. I currently have a wrestling game idea up there (*wink wink*) so check that out if you want. I can probably give you some info on certain characters, though others probably have more knowledge than me. I'd personally be happy to help.

Thanks :D

I'll take a look there ^^

And good luck with your game too ^^
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on April 24, 2015, 08:26:26 PM
Maybe shoot me a link to that RP, I love rping :'D

Yeah, me too. Gimme dat link. Mite be gud.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 25, 2015, 06:17:22 AM
I really do wonder what route the second cour will take. Obviously there's going to be a rival/wicked stepmother analogy, but other than that...?

I want to have more songs. Rin, for one, hasn't had a unique character song since 2012. Her seiyuu has certainly improved since then lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on April 25, 2015, 11:00:20 AM
I really do wonder what route the second cour will take. Obviously there's going to be a rival/wicked stepmother analogy, but other than that...?

I want to have more songs. Rin, for one, hasn't had a unique character song since 2012. Her seiyuu has certainly improved since then lol

Yeah that's true, I still remember Never Say Never and her seiyuu improved since that song ^^
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Roswell on April 25, 2015, 06:29:39 PM
I absolutely adore Karen and I actually really like the idea of her and Nao together after the second jewelries cd so I think it would be great if they were a unit :)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 25, 2015, 06:56:17 PM
Hey, Never say Never was literally the first time Ayaka Fukuhara had sung in front of a recording device. No wonder it sounds pretty rough... Sokyuu is really impressive compared to where she was a few years ago.

Plus some characters like Kanako getting a new solo would be a-ok with me (since I don't like Chocolat Tiara or her cover song too much).

Triad Primus has been around for ages, but seeing them minus Rin is a little new.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on April 25, 2015, 08:51:22 PM
Now that I finished listen to the 346Pro selection CD vol.1 songs, gotta say that Rin's S(MILE)ING! is pretty solid once you get over the song's slowness. Sadly, I can't say the same to the other songs.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Scotty on April 25, 2015, 10:12:50 PM
I'm deleting every single post that has to do with the topic I mentioned. Retroactively, starting from here, and ending at my first comment on the matter.

To Heinzendegger, feel free to make an account and contribute towards healthy discussion with more polite words if you feel like it. I'm pretty sure Guest posting will be gone soonish because of all of these reports.

To everyone else. Remember that there is no back seat moderating. There's no need to tell any other person to do anything, including shutting up. Simply report if you must.

Cinderella Girls was a mistake.

EDIT: After having purged some posts, I've formed some of my own opinions. I'll get into them quickly without touching on the subject itself:
It's pretty apparent that a couple amount of people here have a lot to say regarding this topic. Heinzendegger, it seems like a completely separate topic could be warranted about it. Feel free to make one, although it can easily get into a more broad topic, so you'll most likely have to put it in an off topic board. I'm pretty disappointed in the amount of people here who would accuse someone of pedophilia over this. That's a pretty serious accusation when we're all just talking about fictional, animated things, but that's simply my opinion.

tl;dr
Heinzendegger, make an account, a new topic, talk about it more in depth. Get discussion there. Everyone be nice, or move along.
 
This is warning number 2.

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on April 25, 2015, 10:14:42 PM
Thanks for that, Scotty. It's appreciated.

Anime was a mistake.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Amazing_Grace on May 05, 2015, 03:54:37 PM
Well, I'm going to drop in here real quick and give everyone a nice topic change, because I just realized something recently and I wonder if anyone else noticed it. Maybe they did. In total, everything on this forum involving Cinderella girls amounts to about 150 pages of thread, and I'm not reading all that just to see if someone has brought this up already.

Warning: Does have to do with CG. Does not have to do with specific anime episodes.

What I refer to is the unit name Love Laika.

Laika literally means "Barker" in Russian. It's the name of the first dog in space, interesting trivia. Also the general name of a few breeds of dog.

So this unit is literally called "Love Barker".

Is that done on purpose because they both really like dogs, is "Laika" from a different language here (considering the unit includes Anya, who is part Russian from what I gather, it being in Russian makes perfect sense), or did the people who named the unit just do it because of the Added Alliterative Appeal and the inclusion of a Russian word, and they genuinely had no idea they just named a unit of idols "Love Barker"?

I guess it really doesn't "bother" me, especially considering I don't watch Cinderella Girls (yet) so I can't be "offended" about my favorite girls.
I just found this...interesting, to say the least. Were you guys aware of this? You probably were and just didn't care, but I'm wondering if anyone else thought about this.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on May 05, 2015, 04:19:04 PM
This was explained in the unit's Drama Track for the Love Laika CD. Anastasia said that the name comes from the dog Laika who orbited the Earth from a soviet spacecraft. This is fitting since Anya is known to have a love for space and the stars beyond and she's also proud of her Russian culture.

Hence why I sometimes affectionately call them the "Space Bitches".
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Saturos on May 05, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
"Space Bitches".

ayyyy
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Amazing_Grace on May 05, 2015, 04:32:34 PM
This was explained in the unit's Drama Track for the Love Laika CD. Anastasia said that the name comes from the dog Laika who orbited the Earth from a soviet spacecraft. This is fitting since Anya is known to have a love for space and the stars beyond and she's also proud of her Russian culture.

Hence why I sometimes affectionately call them the "Space Bitches".

Ooohhhh.
See, that makes a WHOLE LOT of sense, but I can't listen to drama CDs or do anything because everything is blocked everywhere.
But yeah, thanks for explaining that, because I was REALLY confused about why they would name this unit after a dog.
Now everything makes sense.

That's a great nickname.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on May 05, 2015, 04:49:47 PM
See, that makes a WHOLE LOT of sense, but I can't listen to drama CDs or do anything because everything is blocked everywhere.
But yeah, thanks for explaining that, because I was REALLY confused about why they would name this unit after a dog.
Now everything makes sense.

I own the actual Cinderella Animation Project 02 that features Love Laika and their image song "Memories" (which I HIGHLY recommend) and comes with the Drama Track. I found a text translation online and read along with the track itself. I can back up my info on this unit since it is one of my personal favorites.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on May 06, 2015, 03:15:33 PM
Now that I finished listen to the 346Pro selection CD vol.1 songs, gotta say that Rin's S(MILE)ING! is pretty solid once you get over the song's slowness. Sadly, I can't say the same to the other songs.

The album was decent, imo. Yes, Rin's S(Mile)ING! was the best song in the album, but I have one big problem that might seem confusing at first: its existence.

What I mean is, the lyrics can definitely be read as overcoming a sort of hardship in life and wanting to get on stage to shed all those troubles away for good. For Uzuki, this is perfect in a meta sense. Keep in mind, the poor girl didn't have an SR for a while and it caused many to feel sorry for the girl. The devs took note of this, gave Uzuki SRs, a voice, and a CD debut. Uzuki is the definition of overcoming hardships. From a struggling character to arguably the Haruka/Mirai of Cinderella Girls.

Rin, on the other hand, kinda seems like she gets everything she wants without much effort. She was the first to get a CD debut, is the poster-girl for the sub-series, and even got a voice before voicing CG idols was a thing! Because of all of this, it doesn't feel natural for Rin to sing this song because she didn't have the real life hardships that Uzuki had. I think they should've just given this to Mio, who had similar struggles to Uzuki in real life.

Btw, Nocturne was the biggest letdown ever.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on May 06, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
But yeah, thanks for explaining that, because I was REALLY confused about why they would name this unit after a dog.

Come on, aren't they adorable http://i.imgur.com/aPWLfm0.jpg

BTW, you know about the Love Missile in L.O.B.M., right?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on May 06, 2015, 05:59:01 PM
The worst part about Nocturne is that it should have been awesome :( Like, two of the strongest vocalists among the pre-established idols getting a duet? But then it's... So disappointing. It's not good, it's not bad, it's just... Eh.

if it had been, like, Yuko and someone else I don't like, it wouldn't hurt as bad lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on May 06, 2015, 08:02:34 PM
My problem with Nocturne was that the arrangement was a mess and the lyrics were very unoriginal, which was a shame because it's done by the same person who did "Nation Blue" and a few others.

Also, a week before the CG AP 08 GOIN'!!! CD comes out.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on May 06, 2015, 08:18:01 PM
My thoughts on Nocturne are a combination of Maka's and ChocoCats'.

It had a lot of potential to be a great song since Kaede and Mizuki, two of CG's best singers, in one song seemed like a fantastic idea, especially since the two go together so well in terms of voices and character, and yet they didn't get used to their full potential.

Also, the arrangement was rather dull.

Uzuki's R-O-M-A-N-T-I-C NOW! was decent, imo. Its fitting for Uzuki to cover it, even if the spelling was removed, which is jarring for me.

Also, a week before the CG AP 08 GOIN'!!! CD comes out.

I give it two to three days before the release for the entire soundtrack to break the street date and get ripped. Every other CD in this series had that happen, why stop now?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: SakuraMaxX on May 06, 2015, 08:58:49 PM
Come on, aren't they adorable http://i.imgur.com/aPWLfm0.jpg

BTW, you know about the Love Missile in L.O.B.M., right?

If Anya was German instead, the unit would've been called Love Leica
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on May 07, 2015, 08:25:09 AM
Unrelated, but I just realized that every voiced idol up to the sixth wave of CDs has made at least a token appearance. Yuki is the only one from the seventh wave. Sooooo I'm guessing... Fumika appearance? It's just a hunch, but I'm really feeling at least a cameo ツ

EDIT: Finally got the chance to listen to Rin's S(mile)ing!, and it manages to sound even more anime-opening-ish than the original.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on May 11, 2015, 02:35:15 PM
Uzuki's R-O-M-A-N-T-I-C NOW! was decent, imo. Its fitting for Uzuki to cover it, even if the spelling was removed, which is jarring for me.

Yeah, it's nice on its own, but I think Miria was too good with the original. Kinda like with Nao's Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on May 11, 2015, 03:35:27 PM
Honestly, I think Miria is the only girl who could have done that song. I can't think of any other idols who could sing it as well...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on May 18, 2015, 03:08:25 AM
The jacket for the second Blu-Ray of the anime is out, and holy shusk, that smile. You could stop a war with it!

(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r609/Producer_CaelK/jk1_zpsj23ftumw.jpg)

笑顔...です!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on May 18, 2015, 03:09:41 AM
Egao, desu!

Is there gonna be a music CD and did they reveal the tracklist for it?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on May 18, 2015, 03:20:21 AM
Egao, desu!

Is there gonna be a music CD and did they reveal the tracklist for it?

Looks like a drama CD with Uzuki, Miku, and Mika.

Music CDs are released every odd numbered DVD.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on May 18, 2015, 10:11:18 PM
I don't really know exactly what this is for, but the cg site put up this request thing where you can pick idols that have made appearances? http://imas-cinderella.com/special/346pro/contact.html (http://imas-cinderella.com/special/346pro/contact.html)
Maybe someone can help me figure out how to fill this out/ what exactly it is for.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: chaos176 on May 18, 2015, 10:43:04 PM
I don't really know exactly what this is for, but the cg site put up this request thing where you can pick idols that have made appearances? http://imas-cinderella.com/special/346pro/contact.html (http://imas-cinderella.com/special/346pro/contact.html)
Maybe someone can help me figure out how to fill this out/ what exactly it is for.

It's a form to request idols to promote your product or business. It's not for normal peoples.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on May 19, 2015, 12:14:10 AM
It's a form to request idols to promote your product or business. It's not for normal peoples.

I see! thanks!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on May 22, 2015, 11:18:36 PM
Here's an interesting video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMhbyC7a3_E) showing the process of the opening scene.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 14, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
http://imasnews765.com/?p=13295

Looks like the tracklist for the next CD is as follows:

1. shabon song (soap song) (artists aren't listed, safe to assume it's a Cute song bc of the title)
2. Never say never (for Anastasia)
3. Mitsuboshi (For Minami)
4. Kazeiro Melody (For Mio)

A little nervous about some of these lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 14, 2015, 07:25:37 PM
It IS real!

Minami covering Mitsuboshi. Literally what.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 18, 2015, 09:34:26 AM
Yeah, it's nice on its own, but I think Miria was too good with the original. Kinda like with Nao's Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari.

Haha...SAY WHAT?!?!

Kinda like with Nao's Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari.

When was this a thing?!  *drops everything*  I'm gonna find this cover right now.


Edit:  Just listened to it.  It's pretty awesome...I agree though.  The original was just too good, particularly in the vocal department(yanagi is perfection).  Still enjoyed it nonetheless.(it's not everyday im@s covers your favorite anime song XD)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on June 18, 2015, 05:24:59 PM
Haha...SAY WHAT?!?!

When was this a thing?!  *drops everything*  I'm gonna find this cover right now.

It's on cool jewelries vol.2
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 20, 2015, 06:32:34 PM
Well, I just started watching it. Feels quite different from the old anime of 765Pro... but now I think it's totally reasonable why CG attracted more fans than the original 765Pro All Stars, I'm pretty sure they'll gain even more fans with the anime. Although episode-1 is quite awkward, I actually enjoy the first 3 episodes a lot, and it seems A-1 Pictures took the lessons they've learned during the production of previous iM@S anime, the company structure is also much more realistic.

===================================================

All in all I'm pretty satisfied with the setting it took, Uzuki is really adorable (being scared by producer is the best part so far XD), Rin and Mio are also amazing ;D Also I have a faith in producer himself, although he doesn't speak much or encourage the girls as passionate as 765's producer does, I'm pretty sure he'll do a hella good job!!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 20, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
Well, I just started watching it. Feels totally different from the old anime of 765Pro... but now I think it's totally reasonable why CG attracted more fans than the original 765Pro All Stars, I'm pretty sure they'll gain even more fans with the animation. Although episode-1 is quite awkward, I actually enjoy the first 3 episodes a lot, and it seems A-1 Pictures took the lessons they've learned during the production of previous iM@S anime.

Uzuki is really adorable (being scared by producer is the best part so far XD), Rin and Mio are also amazing ;D Also I have a faith in producer himself, although he's a stiff guy with almost no words (quite opposite from 765's producer,) I'm pretty sure he'll do a hella good job!

Glad to hear you're enjoying it so far!  I also liked the first 3 eps, especially the 3rd which I thought was wonderfully executed.(minus the quite noticeable drop in quality due to saving budget for that concert scene, hopefully they fixed it in the bluray)


I freaking loved Akane!

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/6df1bd1c7d1c9e4e5971d3299eb97cc3/tumblr_njob38X5rR1s7swf7o1_500.gif)

And her fiery, hot-blooded personality.(prolly cuz she reminded me a lot of Hibiki lol)  That epic fist bump.  ;D


Yeah the new producer, while having a drastic change in personality from the other, has some actual character depth and a bit of that moe gap going for him.  At least a lot the fans seem to like him.  So much that he's considered "Best Girl".

Source: A shop in Japan did a popularity poll while the show was still airing (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-dR7y-CcAAAF30.jpg).

No surprise Mio would be the least liked.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 21, 2015, 04:47:51 PM
Yeah, I can feel slight difference from the one aired in 2011, especially the overall atmosphere.

I watched them via Daisuki, there I noticed only Ep. 2 was in 1080p, 1 and 3 was only available in 480p and there were obvious frame glitch during the stage parts in Ep. 3. Quality side I wasn't really satisfied, but I do like the new plot.

Also, when producer scratch his neck, it means that he's gonna surprise us with unexpected actions or words ;D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tafira on June 22, 2015, 03:17:45 AM
I recently finished the season myself- it was an enjoyable ride.

The ending had nice connections to the beginning, with Rin and Mio's brief chats with Producer.

Also, all the easter eggs are great! Did anyone else notice the little sign in the ending of episode eleven with all of the 765's original idols signatures on it?
I thought that this meant the summer training camp was the same place that 765 used in the idolm@ster movie.

Made me feel kind of good inside....
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 22, 2015, 07:58:44 PM
http://youtu.be/817JhWOOYms
Preview of the new(ish) songs!

Mika and Miho harmonize shockingly well :0
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on June 22, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
The new song sounds too generic to me to like it. The rearranges are... interesting. I like them better then the previous, but I'm not too crazy into them.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 22, 2015, 08:42:10 PM
http://youtu.be/817JhWOOYms
Preview of the new(ish) songs!

Mika and Miho harmonize shockingly well :0

Not too shabby.  :)

That was my first time hearing Anya sing, thought it was Yukiho at first lol.  Nice.

They're all pretty decent, even Mio's I guess.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 22, 2015, 08:43:25 PM
seibo song is a thing, yes. :p

Mio's Kaizero Melody is...........different and Minami's Mitsuboshi is good, but damn I am LOVING Anya's Never say never.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 22, 2015, 09:05:40 PM
I recently finished the season myself- it was an enjoyable ride.

The ending had nice connections to the beginning, with Rin and Mio's brief chats with Producer.

Also, all the easter eggs are great! Did anyone else notice the little sign in the ending of episode eleven with all of the 765's original idols signatures on it?
I thought that this meant the summer training camp was the same place that 765 used in the idolm@ster movie.

Made me feel kind of good inside....

Although it was small, it's placed in a quite obvious spot ::)

The balcony where Minami talked with Mio and everyone else at night, was exactly the place Haruka spoken her mind to Akabane-P.

Also, I can feel that we're very likely to have a second part! That last episode has a lot of foreshadowing scenes :) Karen and Nao were at the concert, will they join the project? Who's the woman sitting in the dark office?

=========================

I feel happy that I decided to watch both iM@S anime. I'd regret for life if I missed Cinderella Project. XD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 22, 2015, 09:08:51 PM
Also, I can feel that we're very likely to have a second part!

Second cour was confirmed the very moment Episode 13 ended. July 17th is I think when it airs, so it's not too far away now.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 22, 2015, 09:14:18 PM
Second cour was confirmed the very moment Episode 13 ended. July 17th is I think when it airs, so it's not too far away now.

Now that's something to expect!! ;D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 22, 2015, 09:24:06 PM
I'm amused at how all of Minami's non-cover songs sound like they're from a mecha series, lol.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 22, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
Regarding the end skit, the result was rather unexpected, yet humorously fair. Now, I'm undoubtedly the only person who really wanted to see the bungee jump carry out like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCoyGbOkNQQ). Yes, I'm that hopelessly masochistic. :P

LOL.  I laughed way too hard at this.  So mean. XD

Prolly wouldn't want friends like that though. x. x


Just got around to reading through posts in this thread.  Was interesting comparing the episode responses of im@s fans to the anime fans on MAL forums(which was my only source for viewer feedback back when this was still airing).  A lot of them there were new to the series who seemed like they didn't even watch the 2011 anime.  It was amusing(and kinda sad) seeing all these "Producer is best girl" comments and Producer x Rin shippers.  There was also a ton of backlash in response to Mio's melodrama(which I honestly felt was warranted).  Rin and Anya received the most love.  But overall, there was just so much hate lol. 

This quote from one of the users pretty much sums up my feelings thus far:

Quote
There's also a major conflict missing from the story. I hate to keep making comparisons to the 2011 Idolmaster, but in that story, the whole thing was "765Pro trying to claw its way to the top with sheer talent". Right now, that sort of overarching draw is missing from CG and it needs something to get people to stay with it. I went into the 2011 anime with little knowledge of the franchise as a whole but it convinced me to stay and enjoy the adventure. I'm not saying CG needs to be accessible to people who have no idea what Idolmaster is, but it should have something to convince people who may want to try it to stick around.

Actually this one really hits it home:

Quote
As a big fan of the original iDOLM@STER who’s seen the original series and the movie twice and planning on a third time, you should’ve seen my face when they announced another season. It was still iDOLM@STER, even if only tangentially, and iDOLM@STER holds a special place in my heart. But this… this was just never quite what I wanted it to be. I couldn’t find the passion in it that drew me in to the original so quickly

I really really want to enjoy this as much as I did the original, so here's hoping the 2nd cour will turn things around.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on June 23, 2015, 01:43:22 AM
Now, I ain't speaking for all MAL users, but generally a lot of their reactions and thoughts on niche anime (such as iM@S) are typically misled due to a lack of understanding of source material. That, and typically askew. I tend to stay away from there ;P But seriously though, I think that guy's missing a point. Sure, 346 is a big production company, but the specific girls in the Cinderella Project aren't exactly "there" yet in the anime. And the argument that there hasn't been a major conflict yet either is kinda off seeing as how things didn't start getting "conflicting" in the 2011 anime until around the half-way point (which is where we're at)

Edit:Ninja'd lol. But yeah, that second quote you posted. It hits home indeed. Yes, I love iM@S myself more than most other things as well, and was excited to hear about the CG anime too, but while I'm loving it so far, it's just not the same...Still great imo, but again, not the same.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 23, 2015, 02:20:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Fkr2wgA.jpg)

HNNNNGGG Rin, why you do this to me... Aww Ranko, you little cutie... and Min--Mami?! W-What are you doing here?!  :o
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 23, 2015, 02:26:49 AM
I feel like the only one who doesn't mind when a main cast completely changes as long as the new cast can fit well with the original cast.

I guess this hasn't hit me as hard because I knew for a long time that Cinderella Girls was gonna get an anime and I knew about these characters beforehand thanks to multiple hours of research. (No life. XP!) But I can definitely see where some people are coming from. Some people are only in it for the anime and plenty of people knew nothing about CG until this anime aired.

HNNNNGGG Rin, why you do this to me... Aww Ranko, you little cutie... and Min--Mami?! W-What are you doing here?!  :o

Minami..... Mami.... Oh god, I never caught that! XD!
(If you don't get it, remove the "in" from Minami's name.)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 23, 2015, 02:27:58 AM
I don't even bother with MAL reviews, even if I'm obsessed with the series. :/ There's so much... Negativity.

also a lot of people forget that Mio is a typical teenager... She's gonna be a little overemotional. If you've ever talked to a 15 year old girl, it's not a completely rational time. But then again I've been a teenage girl before and most people on this thread or on MAL in the IM@S fandom haven't lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 23, 2015, 02:33:34 AM
I don't even bother with MAL reviews, even if I'm obsessed with the series. :/ There's so much... Negativity.

I stopped with MAL after Hyperdimension Neptunia: The Animation and ESPECIALLY BlazBlue: Alter Memory. I will admit the latter was legitimately terrible, but holy crap sometimes it seemed like they were REALLY trying too hard to find flaws that it ended up being nitpicking and dodging the things that are actually wrong with it. (Talking about how Tsubaki shouldn't be bribing a man when the real issue is that nothing is ever explained!)

It doesn't surprise me that it's probably full of a ton of people that have little to no idea what iM@S is. I get that any anime can be someone's first, but still.

But then again, can't really trust a place that's abbreviated with the same spelling as the Spanish word for "bad".  ::)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on June 23, 2015, 05:34:39 AM
http://youtu.be/817JhWOOYms
Preview of the new(ish) songs!

Mika and Miho harmonize shockingly well :0

>Mio's Kazeiro Melody

No. Just... goddammit, no.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 23, 2015, 01:18:34 PM
I don't even bother with MAL reviews, even if I'm obsessed with the series. :/ There's so much... Negativity.

also a lot of people forget that Mio is a typical teenager... She's gonna be a little overemotional. If you've ever talked to a 15 year old girl, it's not a completely rational time. But then again I've been a teenage girl before and most people on this thread or on MAL in the IM@S fandom haven't lol

I don't even know what is MAL :-X

Anyways...

Even if Mio is just a teenage girl, her reaction towards the debut concert was not only overemotional, that's what I used to call 'rage quit' when I still play MMORPG few years ago - it was naive, making trouble out of nothing. And Rin blamed producer first, then followed her step without thinking, their reactions were horribly wrong. But thanks to Uzuki (still charming even if she caught the flu, what a wonderful girl :) ), the two finally realized the truth and apologize to the rest of Cinderella Project members for their brief absence.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 23, 2015, 08:09:28 PM
I don't even know what is MAL :-X

---------->clicky here (http://myanimelist.net/anime/23587/The_iDOLM@STER_Cinderella_Girls)<----------


For that whole thing with Mio, I think they could have handled it better.  I know she's only 15, but so was Miki and although she was still in the wrong, her reason was more justifiable.  She was given false hopes for like 6 episodes that she could get into RK, only to be shot down after working so hard.  Mio on the other hand, just had really high and unrealistic expectations due to her overinflated ego.  She didn't even bow or thank her friends for coming to support her... Please, just please pass on the leader role to Uzuki already  I think I'm just biased against Mio; I went into the anime already not liking her, then when she pulled that crap on ep 6, I was just like SMH.  I actually felt the same towards Ritsuko in the first one.  I already didn't like her initially, then she forms RK, leaving all our other idols behind in the dust which really upset me.(just imagining how jealous the others all must've been, especially when they were watching their Smoky Thrill debut while trying to be happy for their fellow idols, was painful)  Though it did give them a goal to strive for and made their journey more endearing, it still took me a long time to get over it and to actually start liking Ritsuko.  Prolly gonna be the same with Mio as well.  Eh, blame the anime lol.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 23, 2015, 08:43:27 PM
I actually was meh on Mio until the anime, lol.

Also I like her as leader. I think it was unexpected. When Haruka was made the leader in the movie, it was like... Who else would they make leader? But having the main girl as a side member gives it an entirely different dynamic.

I'm a little curious as to why Mio is so hated when Miku did the same thing, with slightly different circumstances... mio quit being an idol after a crappy performance, miku went on strike and barricaded herself in the cafe after other idols got work when she didn't. Is it because Mio got less time to redeem herself? Or it because Miku's situation was played off as more of a joke and took like 5 minutes to resolve? The world may never know...

Your mileage may vary, though.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 23, 2015, 08:48:24 PM
I'm a little curious as to why Mio is so hated when Miku did the same thing, with slightly different circumstances... mio quit being an idol after a crappy performance, miku went on strike and barricaded herself in the cafe after other idols got work when she didn't. Is it because Mio got less time to redeem herself? Or it because Miku's situation was played off as more of a joke and took like 5 minutes to resolve? The world may never know...

Your mileage may vary, though.

It's mainly because Miku's situation was still in-tone for the show as a whole and was resolved rather quickly. Mio, on the other hand, took over an episode to go through and she caused the tone of the episode (Uzuki aside) to go for a darker, more depressing turn with grayed skies, washed out colors, and just about everyone not cracking a smile until the very end. Mio's drama took up a whole episode and brought along a ton of melodrama whereas Miku took about 5-10 minutes and was still rather light in tone, even if the situation is still sorta serious.

I think that after previous attempts (I'm looking at you, iM@S Movie.....), people are sick of the melodrama.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: seibo on June 23, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
Quote from: Nayre

For that whole thing with Mio, I think they could have handled it better.  I know she's only 15, but so was Miki and although she was still in the wrong, her reason was more justifiable.  She was given false hopes for like 6 episodes that she could get into RK, only to be shot down after working so hard.


This is exactly why I feel Cinderella girls has really dropped the ball on writing; specifically its pacing. Miki actually had foreshadowing, and while she also got criticized by the fandom, she at least had proper motivations for doing so that was in character. I'm really hating that im@s can't seem to come up with a better plot line than "I just can't be an idol anymore *dramatic crying*" when it's much more exciting to show failure as a deep emotional impact or as some sort of trauma to get over. Not just another lame all-or-nothing last straw that comes out of nowhere :/

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I actually felt the same towards Ritsuko in the first one.  I already didn't like her initially, then she forms RK, leaving all our other idols behind in the dust which really upset me.(just imagining how jealous the others all must've been, especially when they were watching their Smoky Thrill debut while trying to be happy for their fellow idols, was painful)  Though it did give them a goal to strive for and made their journey more endearing, it still took me a long time to get over it and to actually start liking Ritsuko.  Prolly gonna be the same with Mio as well.  Eh, blame the anime lol.

Ritsuko defense mode ACTIVATE!!! While I can see where you're coming from, I feel like that wasn't the intention with Ritsuko at all. It's been awhile but I had the impression that Ritsuko was always supposed to be focused on a single group whereas the Producer was going to be in charge of all the idols individually. Ritsuko was never supposed to be producing ALL of them, and even if it started out that way, she ended up going a different path and Producer was hired to replace her. Besides, it seems weird that a 19 year old would be in charge of the entire 13 idols. But that might just be me.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 23, 2015, 10:10:01 PM
The way I read it, producing a small group like RK was Ritsuko's dream? Correct me if I'm wrong, but she always wanted to produce a few girls, not all of them.

I do agree with the series needing broader forms of drama than "*messes up and doubts self* i am quit idol :(". Episode 13 and Minami's collapse felt very natural and not forced to me, especially since it was foreshadowed but also surprising. I hope the drama in the second season is more the latter than the former.

Wake Up Girls did a TON of things wrong, but it had drama like corrupt entertainment bigwigs and gross fans, monetary issues, family problems, injuries, and scandals/trolls and hateblogs on the Internet, so it wasn't picking from the same pool over and over again. the problem is when you cram all of that into a 13 episode anime.......
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 23, 2015, 10:50:56 PM
The way I read it, producing a small group like RK was Ritsuko's dream? Correct me if I'm wrong, but she always wanted to produce a few girls, not all of them.

Just to prove how good the new producer is (in other words, how good we are ;D )
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 23, 2015, 11:54:21 PM
Aye, I agree with what you all said regarding Ritsuko.  I was merely expressing how I felt when I first watched the anime, not knowing anything about the franchise back then.  But having rewatched the series a few times, I know now that's not the case.


I do agree with the series needing broader forms of drama than "*messes up and doubts self* i am quit idol :(". Episode 13 and Minami's collapse felt very natural and not forced to me, especially since it was foreshadowed but also surprising. I hope the drama in the second season is more the latter than the former.

Hmmm...Since the CG anime seems to be following the same pattern as the original so far, I wonder if that means Rin and Uzuki will receive the same kind of character development as Chihaya and Haruka?  Oh man, I don't think I'll be able to handle seeing Uzuki's tears.  Please gawd no.  :(



Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: animagic4u on June 24, 2015, 12:05:33 AM
Oh man, I don't think I'll be able to handle seeing Uzuki's tears.

I will cry so hard if this happens. ;_____;
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 24, 2015, 08:22:17 AM
Hmmm...Since the CG anime seems to be following the same pattern as the original so far, I wonder if that means Rin and Uzuki will receive the same kind of character development as Chihaya and Haruka?  Oh man, I don't think I'll be able to handle seeing Uzuki's tears.  Please gawd no.  :(

I'd say they won't.

Although Rin was categorized as blue along with Chihaya, I don't think she's gonna receive similar plot since she's particularly cheerful, only with a introvert personality compare to Mio and Uzuki. Further more, not like Chihaya who lives alone due to her family problem, Rin is living with her parents and they even own a flower shop.

But there's one thing bothering me... Mika said she's a 'outsider' when Mio and Rin returned to the agency, why'd she say such a word? Does it have something to do with producer or the girls of Cinderella Project?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 24, 2015, 05:03:08 PM
I'd say they won't.

Although Rin was categorized as blue along with Chihaya, I don't think she's gonna receive similar plot since she's particularly cheerful, only with a introvert personality compare to Mio and Uzuki. Further more, not like Chihaya who lives alone due to her family problem, Rin is living with her parents and they even own a flower shop.

But there's one thing bothering me... Mika said she's a 'outsider' when Mio and Rin returned to the agency, why'd she say such a word? Does it have something to do with producer or the girls of Cinderella Project?

Oh, by "same kind" I didn't mean like plotwise, but more like weight or importance.

I wondered about that too.  I believe there was a discussion on this some pages back.  It was speculated that there's some internal rivalry going on in 346 pro, since it is a big agency after all, and perhaps Mika(and maybe some of the others as well) used to be one of the idols P-san lost to another(currently unveiled) rivaling producer hence the reason why he now puts up a passive, apathetic front towards the girls.  This might be the case, it makes sense at least.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 24, 2015, 05:08:00 PM
Now I get it... yeah, as they're both in the main trio position, she's as same as Chi-chan.

But don't tell me that woman appeared in the ending of ep. 13 is also a member of Mishiro Production :o it'd be terrible.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 24, 2015, 05:12:26 PM
But don't tell me that woman appeared in the ending of ep. 13 is also a member of Mishiro Production :o it'd be terrible.

one of the idols P-san lost to another(currently unveiled) rivaling producer
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 24, 2015, 05:35:58 PM
That's exactly what I meant :o and I don't wanna see it happens.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Roswell on June 24, 2015, 11:08:57 PM
I hope they do something more with Uzuki (not just Uzuki bias talking, I swear). I thought it was refreshing that she wasn't automatically the leader for everything simply because she's the main girl, but right now, I feel like she has like an Azusa-level involvement in the plot.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 25, 2015, 12:51:32 PM
We shall see, 717 is pretty close now.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on June 25, 2015, 09:50:59 PM
(http://thumbnail.egloos.net/600x0/http://pds25.egloos.com/pds/201506/24/46/c0065146_558a77e916001.jpg)
Oh hey, A-1 actually bothers to fix things.

And also,
(http://idolmaster.jp/blog/vy4dffxn2qf1/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%EF%BC%88%E3%83%95%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%BB%E3%83%87%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%EF%BC%A07%E6%9C%88%EF%BC%89.jpg)

(http://idolmaster.jp/blog/vy4dffxn2qf1/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%EF%BC%88%E3%83%95%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%BB%E3%83%87%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%EF%BC%A07%E6%9C%88%EF%BC%89.jpg)

(http://idolmaster.jp/blog/vy4dffxn2qf1/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%EF%BC%88%E3%83%89%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AF%EF%BC%A07%E6%9C%88%EF%BC%89.jpg)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 25, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
(http://thumbnail.egloos.net/600x0/http://pds25.egloos.com/pds/201506/24/46/c0065146_558a77e916001.jpg)
Oh hey, A-1 actually bothers to fix things.

Whew, much better!(even if Uzuki still looks a little off)

Quote
And also,

I'll have what Love Laika is having!

The price seems kinda steep for the portions given, especially in Kanako's dessert... About $5.00+ for 2 little cookies, a strawberry, a tiny piece of cake and is that a brownie in the corner?  That cake/cookies better be worth it lol.  ???

I'd still try 'em I guess.(I want that Uzuki pin!(or is that a coaster?) XD)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 26, 2015, 02:04:13 AM
That P-Kun cappuccino, lmfao
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on June 26, 2015, 02:34:41 AM
I've said it once, I'll say it again. Dat Producer cappucino, tho.
Edit: Ninja'd! ggwp Maka.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on June 26, 2015, 03:42:41 AM
GOOD SMILE x iDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS? I knew about the 765 cafe, but this totally explains why Good Smile has been announcing CG after CG figures lately. I want that P cappuccino so badly nonetheless lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on June 26, 2015, 08:00:27 AM
That P-Kun cappuccino, lmfao

Lol omg!  I completely missed that!  I was so focused on all the colorful and prettiness that it somehow escaped my notice. XD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 26, 2015, 01:37:26 PM
That P-Kun cappuccino, lmfao

Hahaha I just can't drink that! XD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on June 26, 2015, 04:08:18 PM
P-san Coffee: Just for the classiest of the producers.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on June 26, 2015, 09:26:48 PM
Adding to the greatness of the P-kun cappuccino is that it looks a bit like the Egyptian god Medjed

And you get his business card as a bonus if you buy it.  (Everyone else is coasters or bromide photos)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 28, 2015, 03:15:14 PM
Second cour info. New key visual, OP, CD series, and air date.

(http://imas-cinderella.com/assets/img/top/visual/main10.jpg)

http://imas-cinderella.com/sp/news/?article_id=35180
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on June 28, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
also there is a PV for a new cinderella girls game, cinderella girls starlight stage
seems like the love live SIF game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNSwfi4DEw
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 28, 2015, 03:58:47 PM
Completely forgot to mention that the Cinderella Girls anime is gonna have it's own manga similar to how the 765 anime had it's manga.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on June 28, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Looking forward to the second half, but another game for phones? Seriously? Isn't this the right time to bring them back to PS3 or PS4?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 28, 2015, 04:34:20 PM
Looking forward to the second half, but another game for phones? Seriously? Isn't this the right time to bring them back to PS3 or PS4?

I made a thread for Starlight Stage here: http://forum.project-imas.com/index.php/topic,2335.0.html

I see it as relatively harmless for the simple fact that at least it's not another card battling game and actually something different for once.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 28, 2015, 04:47:49 PM
I've been wondering if imas would ever get a non-SF rhythm game, so this is interesting to me~
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on June 29, 2015, 10:27:22 PM
Second cour info. New key visual, OP, CD series, and air date.

(http://imas-cinderella.com/assets/img/top/visual/main10.jpg)

http://imas-cinderella.com/sp/news/?article_id=35180

Why is midnight 7 o'clock?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on June 29, 2015, 10:29:09 PM
Why is midnight 7 o'clock?

Some people speculated that its a countdown until July.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on June 29, 2015, 11:07:14 PM
It could just be a typo. VII is pretty close to XII. But they've done the clock motif enough times to get it down, and it's a key visual, so I doubt they just made a mistake:..
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 01, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
Second cour info. New key visual, OP, CD series, and air date.

(http://imas-cinderella.com/assets/img/top/visual/main10.jpg)

http://imas-cinderella.com/sp/news/?article_id=35180
This is a double post, but...

I just realized this is probably a reference to the album cover for CHANGE!.
(http://columbia.jp/idolmaster/img/04change.jpg)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 01, 2015, 08:29:54 PM
This is a double post, but...

I just realized this is probably a reference to the album cover for CHANGE!.
(http://columbia.jp/idolmaster/img/04change.jpg)

:o

If it wasn't you, I wouldn't think of it, because, CHANGE is somehow a 'meh' song to me.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 01, 2015, 11:56:39 PM
I was never a huge fan of Change compared to Ready, but I was scanning imas news at work and was like "WAIT A SEC......"
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on July 02, 2015, 01:53:05 AM
I was never a huge fan of Change compared to Ready, but I was scanning imas news at work and was like "WAIT A SEC......"

Eeeeeeh, Shine!! might probably sound similar in some ways to CHANGE, since it sorta sounded like Star!! was sampled off of READY!!(I didn't notice myself until I saw a comparison vid on youtube)

Still pretty excited to hear it.  ;D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on July 07, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
I'll just leave the 2nd season PV here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkQhx_foqM


edit:grammar
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 07, 2015, 03:32:02 PM
I'll just leave the 2nd season PV goes here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkQhx_foqM

Lovely PV :D :D
And finally it looks like Natsuki will have a seiyuu too :D :D

I wonder which other idols will earn a seiyuu during the second season ^^
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on July 07, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
Lovely PV :D :D
And finally it looks like Natsuki will have a seiyuu too :D :D

I wonder which other idols will earn a seiyuu during the second season ^^

Everyone's been expecting Momoka and I think the other two Blue Napoleon members (Hina and Sarina) might have a chance too. Sana maybe because she had one of the initial Petit idols and now is the only one without a voice.

There's a bunch of other predictions I'm sure...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 07, 2015, 04:18:33 PM
Everyone's been expecting Momoka and I think the other two Blue Napoleon members (Hina and Sarina) might have a chance too. Sana maybe because she had one of the initial Petit idols and now is the only one without a voice.

There's a bunch of other predictions I'm sure...

Yeah Momoka needs a seiyuu she is the only one of the first PV without a voice, and I think it would give more love to the cute idols.

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 07, 2015, 06:08:31 PM
Cute does pretty okay, it's Passion that does the worst in elections and sales tbh...

Can't watch more than 15 seconds of the PV because work internet sucks and my break ends soon anyway, but I saw a little bit on tumblr and... If Karen and Nao aren't rivals I'll eat my hat.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 07, 2015, 06:15:49 PM
I think that Passion has started to get some love this year, specially after last CG's election (Yumi and Tamuki won voices after) and I have a feeling that this season there will be some love for Passion idols.

I know this wont probably happen but I would really love if Seika Suzumiya made a small cameo this season and maybe earn a voice actress too (she is one of my favorites and she's kinda awesome at leats for my eyes xddd)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on July 07, 2015, 07:21:47 PM
I'll just leave the 2nd season PV here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkQhx_foqM


edit:grammar

Whew!  So excited for this.  My Fridays have been kinda hollow lately without some sort of fix lol.

Btw, why is that clock at 1:03 flipped?  :o

Shine!! sounds pretty nice.  Can't wait to see the actual OP. XD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on July 07, 2015, 07:27:22 PM
Cutes dominated for once in the last election, but the problem is, CutePs can't decide on one Cute idol to back for #1.

Miku was an exception this time around, probably because she had the most/best development out of the main 14 in the anime, and Shiki is newer, so her long-term popularity is hard to gauge.

There are some clear favorites like Uzuki, Anzu, Chieri, Nana, Sachiko, Mayu, etc. and a few others (Sae/Kyoko/Mirei/etc. are steadily gaining popularity, Kanako/Miho are holding onto their fans), but their popularity is kinda split between each other, as opposed to CoolPs consistently rallying behind Rin, Ranko, Anya, Kaede, etc.

Though, yeah, both are still better off compared to Passions. Their one victory with Airi seems like it was short-lived, and the only consistently popular Passions otherwise are Mika, Kirari, and maybe Syoko (not counting Namco rigging Mio's votes). Rika and Shizuku only dominate the doujin scene, it seems. Miria is still an odd case. Miria in particular desperately needs more love.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on July 07, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
I was half-expecting rain in the trailer. Said trailer didn't disappoint in that front. :U

It's like... rain is a major antagonist in itself. Always foreboding times of misery. :U
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 07, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
Hopefully Karen and Nao will join the agency :)

why is that clock at 1:03 flipped?  :o

You know there's a thing in this world, called "mirror," right? -_-|||
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 07, 2015, 07:56:10 PM
Aiko gets some love as well... Otherwise, Passion does tend to lag in the popularity department. When a CD release starts being planned, I can always come up with like five Cools that might get one, but I can never figure out any popular Passions. It doesn't help that they tend to pick really random unpopular girls like Yuko occasionally instead of picking a slightly popular girl (Yui or Natsuki, for example) and pushing her ala Mio.

Also, Karen and Nao were confirmed to be newbie idols.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 07, 2015, 08:03:32 PM
Also, Karen and Nao were confirmed to be newbie idols.

Sweet! ;D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on July 07, 2015, 08:19:32 PM
Hopefully Karen and Nao will join the agency :)

You know there's a thing in this world, called "mirror," right? -_-|||

Rofl!  *epic face palm*

Doesn't make sense how they're able to zoom up that closely on it though when the clock is far back behind the trio, but whatever lol.

Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 10, 2015, 05:31:17 AM
Oh shoot, Season 2 PV came out and I forgot to give my thoughts! Derp. XP!

Anyway..........what else is there to say? It's Cinderella Girls Season 2. Saw the first, I expect the second to be similar. I just hope they tone down the melodrama this time (I'm probably asking too much out of A-1 Pictures......) and give better focus and development to characters that didn't get much First Season. Candy Island is still a very dull unit character-wise. Just saying. :/

Karen and Nao joining 346 is to be expected, I just hope they're used for more than just "we're Rin's friends", which I fear might be what they'll boil down to, worst case scenario.

As for Natsuki potentially getting voiced.......................... that took a while.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 13, 2015, 11:22:56 PM
3 days left. My body is not ready.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tafira on July 14, 2015, 03:46:40 AM
3 days left. My body is not ready.

Whoa, is it already that time already? I must not have been paying attention.
(either way, hype)

Go maybe-evil-or-not-new-producer-lady!?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on July 14, 2015, 06:35:25 AM
I'm ready for Natsuki show me my girl. she wont be in the first episode tho since its the first episode and it will likely cover how the cinderella project girls have been doing. But other than Natsuki I'm ready to see the mysterious wicked stepmother (thats what im calling her thats her nickname) she seems interesting. I'm ready for other potentially voiced girls. I'm ready to see how they handle Nao and Karen. I'm ready for new songs. I'm ready.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 14, 2015, 07:33:44 AM
Three days left, and that's where my short vacation begins! ;D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on July 14, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
Coming soon in three days?

(http://i.imgur.com/uQ4cPud.png)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Roswell on July 14, 2015, 09:25:38 PM
Hoping for lots of Karen screen time~
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on July 14, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
Additional character development for idols underutilized be damned, just give me more Kaede this time. :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on July 15, 2015, 03:27:37 AM
Additional character development for idols underutilized be damned, just give me more Kaede this time. :3
This. Needs moar Kaede. Never can have enough Kaede. :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 15, 2015, 05:04:16 PM
As an elder member of the agency, Kaede probably won't receive that much as Cinderella Project does. But we shall see :)

That cold joke scene during the backstage of final festival is quite interesting, tho.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on July 16, 2015, 10:22:11 PM
Yay!!!  One more day!!!!!  ;D

Additional character development for idols underutilized be damned, just give me more Kaede this time. :3
This. Needs moar Kaede. Never can have enough Kaede. :3

+1

Though, still kinda hoping Miku gets some development...the build up is there, but they're prolly gonna give the "Chihaya treatment" to Rin.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 16, 2015, 11:08:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pEN5dlV.jpg)
Oh hey.

rival producer lady intro confirmed?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 17, 2015, 09:58:14 AM
My, this is gonna be exciting :)

But will today's release only available in Japan, or is it a world-wide debut of the second half?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tafira on July 17, 2015, 03:38:02 PM
My, this is gonna be exciting :)

But will today's release only available in Japan, or is it a world-wide debut of the second half?

I pulled a link from ANN that says the second cour will be streamed on Daisuki again... with a special  twist  (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-07-16/dena-acj-to-stream-anime-on-myanimelist-site/.90513)...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 17, 2015, 04:18:58 PM
Thank God I wasn't in China... but next to it. XDD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on July 17, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
Congrats to Natsuki and Karin Domyoji on their voices!!

Natsuki's voice actress is  Yasuno Kiyono (安野希世乃)
Karin's voice actress is Hiyori Nitta (新田ひより)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 17, 2015, 05:47:44 PM
Downloading the raws right now, super pumped B]

Also, Natsuki's VA is actally Kiyono Yasuno, who was Sakura in Aikatsu, among other things. You can hear her singing here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhO4qZcfB-g).

EDIT: not a HUGE EVENTFUL comeback episode, tbh. A little disappointed, but it was nice. the stinger after the credits though...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on July 17, 2015, 07:15:21 PM
OK! It seemed like business as usual except for the director, who really stuck out.

Karin!!


By the way, the official site key visual clock changed from a roman numeral 7 to an 8. What does this mean?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on July 17, 2015, 07:35:23 PM
I was surprised by that Mishiro lady. I thought she was going to be a rival producer. And I thought for a second she was the stalker.

Yeah, I think we're off to a bit of a slow start so far, but I did enjoy that little detective game. Perhaps the end stinger may give us a hint on what is yet to come.

Still hoping for more cute Rika moments in future episodes.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on July 17, 2015, 08:50:23 PM
Pretty good kickoff episode for the second cour!  Karen and Nao seem like really nice girls and Natsuki is a bad@$$! XD

I was surprised by that Mishiro lady. I thought she was going to be a rival producer. And I thought for a second she was the stalker.

Yeah, I think we're off to a bit of a slow start so far, but I did enjoy that little detective game. Perhaps the end stinger may give us a hint on what is yet to come.

Still hoping for more cute Rika moments in future episodes.

Lol yeah, I think that was the general prediction of who she could've been and it also surprised me that she wasn't.  Well, I'm glad she isn't just another Kuroi clone though. 

The detective game was so cute!  I love how all of the girls were looking out for him lol.


And that ending!  Now I'm really excited to see where this is all headed.  Come on next ep...



Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 17, 2015, 09:20:50 PM
Yeah, I totally thought she would be the stalker lol. I was more surprised when we saw her face, though. I thought for sure she'd be a Kuroi type where we never see her face.

Also i think I ship Miku/Riina/Natsuki ot3 now.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on July 17, 2015, 09:44:57 PM
Plot-twist: Mayu confirmed to be an eldtrich abomination, simply biding her time before she lays waste to everything.

And secure P-san's undying love. :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 17, 2015, 10:27:00 PM
So we now have only one new episode, well then, there's a whole bunch stuff to look forward to :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on July 17, 2015, 10:56:16 PM
I serioisly thought the new woman was the stalker, and the ending was a huge starting point for the second cour. I can't wait to see the direction they take with this.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 17, 2015, 11:48:53 PM
Also, something to note... I got the impression from her interview and other stuff that Anzu is trying to get her act together, so to speak. Or at least she seemed like she was actually making an attempt.

She's probably tied for my least favorite among the Cinderella Project because she's so lazy (why are you an idol?? I mean, royalties, but she's so smart she could get royalties a ton of other ways, like writing a book?) and is kind of just a blob, but with her character development she might move up a few tiers in my view.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on July 18, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
Man, that Mayu, man. When I first saw her, I knew she was cray. Yeah, indeed, she was cray.

Also, everyday re-shuffling. [Dances to Party Rock Anthem.]
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 18, 2015, 10:25:16 AM
It was a great episode and really fun. I was really shocked by the ending, didn't see that coming and I'm a little worried about it and how it will affect the idols...

And man, I feel really bad for Mayu's Producer...that chick is really nuts and she could join the X-men with her superpowers xddd
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Roswell on July 19, 2015, 11:01:59 PM
Absolutely great episode, love the interactions!

I wonder if this means new units? If it does, I would actually like that for most of them (especially NG). Except for Love Laika, Minami and Anya are perfect together =/
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on July 19, 2015, 11:09:20 PM
Goddarn, I didn't even know Aki Yamato appeared! Goddarn it! [Grumbles.]
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 20, 2015, 03:40:09 PM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BTStY_3_2y4
Who's ready for more rain and Zack Snyder grayness?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 20, 2015, 04:21:36 PM
Now that I saw the preview, I'm more worried, I think that this new character will behave like Kuroi and she will probably bully the Cinderella Project...

Although it's good to see Kaede again, I think that she'll have a bigger role in this season.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on July 20, 2015, 11:30:24 PM
As long as she isn't a Kuroi copypasta, I'm okay...Nothing against Kuroi, he's cool and all, but still...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: OniZetto on July 20, 2015, 11:34:34 PM
As long as she isn't a Kuroi copypasta, I'm okay...Nothing against Kuroi, he's cool and all, but still...

Unforgivable jerk, don't forget he almost ruin Chihaya.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 21, 2015, 12:15:56 AM
She seems more Lawful Evil than him, tbh. Also you can actually see her face lol.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 21, 2015, 01:09:35 AM
As long as she isn't a Kuroi copypasta, I'm okay...Nothing against Kuroi, he's cool and all, but still...

Unforgivable jerk, don't forget he almost ruin Chihaya.

She seems more Lawful Evil than him, tbh. Also you can actually see her face lol.

The way I see it, both Kuroi and Mishiro are the main antagonists of their respective stories and are absolute jerks, but for different reasons.

Kuroi was more of a direct villain in 2011. His main goal was to ruin 765 no matter what it takes, thus making him a more direct threat to the idols. His actions and motives were more of a cartoon or comic book villain with schemes that'll sabotage 765 and only because he wants to see them crumble and suffer. Kuroi's overall theme being revenge.

Mishiro, on the other hand, is an indirect villain in this situation. Like Maka said, she's more of a Lawful Evil character. Her actions and goals are still selfish, but instead of a cartoon villain, it's more of a malicious boss.  Judging from the end of EP14, she wants to restructure 346's idol division into a way she sees fit, no matter what opposition she has. She knows she can do this because "I am the head of this division, thus you will all follow me without question". Mishiro's overall theme being control.

So while they do have their similarities, such as being head figures in a company and having a heavy motif with the color black, they each have their own motivational differences. Due to this, I wouldn't worry about Mishrio being a retread of Kuroi.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nargrakhan on July 21, 2015, 07:02:52 PM
Loved episode 14. Loved it, loved it, loved it. Sure... it wasn't super exciting, but it really put down the ground work for some great potential.

The handling of Mayu was awesome. Her entire shtick of being a yandere makes her somewhat one-dimensional and very predictable as far general characterization goes, but it was great to see how utterly oblivious the other idols were to how unhealthy that kind of obsession is, stays on key with CG lore. Overall her cameo was enough to make you want more, but not so much you'd tire of it. Also the things we visually saw her capable of, made her much more creepier than the CD drama tracks could do with just sound.  8)

I also felt great when the series cemented that other Producers are responsible for the various girls. Keeps things more "realistic" -- and the twist helps explain why Mayu isn't trying to kill any of the Cinderella Project members.

While Mishiro's actions in the after credits are troubling, it doesn't make her a bad person. We don't know her intentions yet. She may very well believe her plan is for the company's interests, and just because it could turn out to be a mistake, does not mean it was evil or selfish. She was mentioned to be returning from the American branch, which she may have made super successful (and a reason for being transferred back to the Japanese branch).

Also... that scene with Mishiro fixing P-kun's tie seems to be setting a ship on sail for some fans.  If she proves popular enough, mayhaps she will appear in the 4-koma/game settings?

***EDIT***
Still crossing my fingers that Staff-san makes an appearance (or gets mentioned) in the anime. The man needs more idol love.  :D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on July 22, 2015, 12:58:11 PM
I can't get myself to pass any judgement on Miss Mishiro as of now, despite that shocking turn of events she proposed.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on July 24, 2015, 06:13:30 PM
The new episode just hit -- and one's adoration of Kaede is justified. That's all I can say about this one.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 24, 2015, 06:25:26 PM
Kaede Takagai: This Week's MVP and the TRUE People's Champion.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 24, 2015, 06:31:10 PM
Just watched this week episode and kudos for Kaede
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on July 24, 2015, 08:14:54 PM
Kaede has made an appearance for more than 5 seconds. I'm contempt now.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 24, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
I could only watch the first seven minutes because I needed to leave somewhere, but:

koikaze insert??? I saw a pic and freaked out
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on July 24, 2015, 08:24:33 PM
Yes, Koi Kaze is an insert, and it isn't just some 5 second backdrop either :3
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 24, 2015, 08:31:18 PM
Yes, Koi Kaze is an insert, and it isn't just some 5 second backdrop either :3
Argh, need to watch this episode ASAP lol
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on July 24, 2015, 08:33:38 PM
They make Kaede so like-able and amazing it's no wonder she ranks so high in the polls every year. Good episode Kaede for home town hero. All the sad idols really make the heart ache I tell you.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on July 24, 2015, 08:39:06 PM
Kaede Takagai: This Week's MVP and the TRUE People's Champion.

Couldn't agree with you more.  Holy damn, she has so much class; turning down Mishiro for her fans... That was the first time I felt any genuine emotion from this series.  Brilliant execution, many tears were shed.  I also liked that moment when Uzuki reminded them to keep doing their best at whatever they could do in her cute, airheaded way, with that melancholic S(mile)ing! instrumental arrange starting to play in the background.  I hope they continue to keep this up!

The new OP is pretty good.  Cute new outfits are cute.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 25, 2015, 12:19:07 AM
Am I the only one baffled by Mishiro's motives here?

Ok, so she dissolves basically everything, including the Mizuki/Airi program and the Cinderella Project, but like... They're established idols. With established fanbases. It's not like she's getting rid of girls that have NO fan base whatsoever. And real life idol fanatics are VICIOUS. like why she do this. Not just from an "aw don't hurt my girls" way, but in a business way. It's silly.

I mean she's obviously supposed to be the evil stepmother so it can just be "for the evulz" but... Idk.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 25, 2015, 12:34:55 AM
Am I the only one baffled by Mishiro's motives here?

Ok, so she dissolves basically everything, including the Mizuki/Airi program and the Cinderella Project, but like... They're established idols. With established fanbases. It's not like she's getting rid of girls that have NO fan base whatsoever. And real life idol fanatics are VICIOUS. like why she do this. Not just from an "aw don't hurt my girls" way, but in a business way. It's silly.

I mean she's obviously supposed to be the evil stepmother so it can just be "for the evulz" but... Idk.

Mishiro did explain that she was dissatisfied with the pacing of how the Idol Division is developing and wants to take everything her direction. From what she specified, it kinda gives off a "only the grand idols will move on and the rest will be left for dust" motif; sorta like a Social Darwinist for idols. :p Also, as shown by her inability to comprehend Kaede sacrificing a huge role for her fans, she just doesn't understand the personal aspect of being an idol. Her mind is completely in the business side of the industry and nothing else.

However, it WOULD be interesting to see how fans in-universe will take these decisions.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: nastynate on July 25, 2015, 02:27:48 AM
Am I the only one baffled by Mishiro's motives here?

From a business standpoint, it just seems like downsizing or "restructuring" that companies often do that isn't completely shutting down the whole company. Having worked retail, these happens a lot. But... Yeah, these are idols with a sizable audience, so if it came to them be fired (or "graduating" if they do that in this universe) then they could get picked up by another studio or even go independent. They'll be okay. Just like how the members of BiS went on to create their own groups or labels. I get that they don't want to separate, but when you want to be an idol and follow your dreams you gotta make some compromises.

What I absolutely loved in this episode: the photo that call-backs to the fans that were in the audience for Kaede's debut. Well, there were at least two I counted. I'm not one to cry, but this pushed me to near welling up!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on July 25, 2015, 03:17:41 AM
What Kaede said this episode was one of the most Idolmaster-like things I heard. Wanting to become great alongside her fans is great resolution.

What I absolutely loved in this episode: the photo that call-backs to the fans that were in the audience for Kaede's debut. Well, there were at least two I counted. I'm not one to cry, but this pushed me to near welling up!

There were apparently several debut fans, and moments like that are wonderful.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on July 25, 2015, 08:21:38 AM
I'll be honest with you people, I know Mishiro's just reorganizing the company like that, but she made it look so painful. It would be a irreverent and outright offensive hyperbole to compare it to Pol Pot's reorganization of Cambodia during the Khmer Rouge era due to the lack of horrendous crimes against humanity happening, but I certainly felt it that way for me. To put this into perspective, imagine the feeling of having a sour mouth and stomach, without the actual physical pain and taste associated with it. That's how it felt for me.

It doesn't help that Miss Mishiro mentioned something about wanting to produce more results and some sort of marketing the company's output overseas. If I interpret this personally, she's wanting to turn the idols like those pop stars in the US or Western countries in general. That's certainly not good thing, considering how Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus has attracted contempt with the music fans.

And I really like the focus on Kaede on this episode. It just doesn't show her mindset as a idol, but also underscores Miss Mishiro's intentions for the company: It seems that she wants to turn it into a soulless versficator, no regard for the much-needed sentimentality and dreaminess associated with the arts, nor any respect for the fans that give them capital and support. It doesn't help that the new office for the Cinderella Project looks like some underground bunker for a resistance organization, with all its concrete walls, as if the analogy is already clear to all of us.

But yes, I like this episode myself.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on July 25, 2015, 06:04:11 PM
And I really like the focus on Kaede on this episode. It just doesn't show her mindset as a idol, but also underscores Miss Mishiro's intentions for the company: It seems that she wants to turn it into a soulless versficator, no regard for the much-needed sentimentality and dreaminess associated with the arts, nor any respect for the fans that give them capital and support. It doesn't help that the new office for the Cinderella Project looks like some underground bunker for a resistance organization, with all its concrete walls, as if the analogy is already clear to all of us.

But yes, I like this episode myself.
Indeed. I liked the fact that it showed Kaede as more than just another character to show in the anime, and how it added more depth to the plot which helped elaborate and potentially foreshadow a coming of events.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on July 28, 2015, 01:38:25 AM
So, Rocking Girl is totally not getting anymore chapters right now, but Cinderella Girls is getting its own serialization in Comic REX. It looks to follow the anime.

http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2015/07/27/459/

Mangaka is Ueto Sou. Don't know what else he's done.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 28, 2015, 01:40:18 AM
So, Rocking Girl is totally not getting anymore chapters right now

...... Good. Rocking Girl isn't good, anyway.

I hope this is similar to Mana's 765 manga that had side-stories in the anime continuity. That's always enjoyable.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: zaitcev on July 28, 2015, 01:45:22 AM
However, it WOULD be interesting to see how fans in-universe will take these decisions.
Also, in the classic 765 Idolm@ster we had Miki who took fairly active role in boosting her own career. If she were mismanaged by the 346 tops like that, she'd be jumping ship in a moment (proviso how watertight her contract is - we could imagine that 765 left that possibility open where the presumed legion of 346 lawers might not). Thus far we don't see anyone so spirited in the dejected crew. Not even Miku
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on July 28, 2015, 03:31:45 AM
The preview for episode 16 is up and it looks like it's gonna be focused on Nana a bit.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on July 31, 2015, 06:02:16 PM
Andddd the girls voiced in this episode are Suzuho,Emi, Tamami, and Ayame. A big win for passion girls today. Minus Tamami she's a cool.

Suzuho is voiced by Haruno Nanami (春野ななみ)
Emi is voiced by  Arisa Date (伊達朱里紗)
Tamami is voiced by  Misa Kayama (嘉山未紗)
Ayame is voice by Masumi Tazawa (田澤茉純)

(if i dont have one of these right let me know)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 31, 2015, 06:19:41 PM
Today's episode was one of cameos especially for passion (and this made me remember when some people complained that passion idols didn't get love. I hope for next week to have lot's of cute idols cameos xdd)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on July 31, 2015, 06:36:56 PM
Today's episode was one of cameos especially for passion (and this made me remember when some people complained that passion idols didn't get love. I hope for next week to have lot's of cute idols cameos xdd)

and finally voice kyoko!!!! and momoka for the momoka fans that are currently in pain. ;-)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 31, 2015, 06:38:35 PM
and finally voice kyoko!!!! and momoka for the momoka fans that are currently in pain. ;-)

Yeah I hope that both of them get voiced soon. Although I would prefer for idols like Nene, Arisa, Seika or Yuuki to be voiced too xdddd
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on July 31, 2015, 06:41:51 PM
This week's episode moved the story in the right direction I think. It's great to see that the Cinderella Project members aren't alone in their endeavors.

Ayame! Tamami! Very very glad that two of my favorite idols are voiced. And Suzuho and Emi I like too, they teased us enough with Suzuho so I was strangely caught off guard.

Miku and Nana make for a good combination too. I worry when they play Nana for laughs too much so its uplifting to see her played straight as the idol.

Yeah I think we need a Cute Idol rush too. Although the idol I want most is Cool~
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on July 31, 2015, 07:00:25 PM
I was initially apprehensive about having a focus on the established idols, but I really think that the way that they're doing it- with the established idols highlighting our rookie girls.

i was always a little "eh" on Nana, but this episode boosted my opinion of her a lot :V This episode even made me like Riina, who used to be my least favorite, a lot more.

Any predictions on who the next episode will be about?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on July 31, 2015, 08:03:10 PM
Any predictions on who the next episode will be about?

Koume/Airi/Mizuki episode when?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on July 31, 2015, 08:04:30 PM
Any predictions on who the next episode will be about?

if we are taking predictions on established idols, maybe mizuki? she's been present a lot so im thinking her
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on July 31, 2015, 08:14:07 PM
Any predictions on who the next episode will be about?

We had Cool and Cute but not Passion yet.
I think Mika might show up here.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on July 31, 2015, 09:45:24 PM
Right. As much as I would love a Mizuki episode, they've already put out Kaede and Nana for their respective categories, needs moar Passion.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on July 31, 2015, 09:48:01 PM
I think that with the extra passion cameo in this episode, we need more cute.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on July 31, 2015, 10:11:59 PM
Woot!  Go Nana!!!  Along with Miku, she really sparkled this week.  Just im@s doing what they do best here; they really cranked up the cheesy levels to 11 on this one. XD  I can't help chuckling whenever P-kun brings up the "power of smile".  There were so many cameos this ep, the only one i recognized though was cute little Nina.  Welp, now I have more girls I need to look up!(especially that "psychic"cutie  ;D)

The new OP and ED have already grown on me.  Pretty good episode.

We had Cool and Cute but not Passion yet.
I think Mika might show up here.

This HAS to happen!  It's already long overdue.  We need that Mika ep pronto!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: liza94 on July 31, 2015, 11:42:59 PM
I have watched 16 episodes of derem@s and only characters who got development are Mio, Ranko, Miku, Riina, Minami and Anzu. :(  I have nothing against Kaede or any other CG idol but I don't understand what was the point of creating CP if secondary characters get more attention... :(
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on August 01, 2015, 08:58:14 AM
Welp, Miss Mishiro is trying to cut off one of the lifebloods of Japanese entertainment in this episode, which is gimmick characters. She said she wants to "focus on the idols as artists", without any regard to what they feel about it. So was right all along, she's sucking the soul of the company dry for more results.

And was surprised that they focused on Abe Nana in this episode. Peculiar.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on August 03, 2015, 03:23:09 PM
Well, we were all wrong. This next episode looks to be a Rika/Miria episode.

https://youtu.be/GCZfVsKrnS8

EDIT: Some sources are saying it's a Mika episode. Now I'm just not sure, since the PV gave Rika a bigger focus. Idk, we'll have to see Friday.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on August 03, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
I still hope for cute idols cameo in this week's episode (last time that an episode was focused on Rika, Miria and Kirari, four cute idols made a cameo, so let's cross fingers together :D)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Naryoril on August 03, 2015, 04:38:07 PM
i'd like to see some characters which were hardly touched at all to get some focus, Kanako (if the name is correct) comes to mind.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on August 03, 2015, 04:41:39 PM
i'd like to see some characters which were hardly touched at all to get some focus, Kanako (if the name is correct) comes to mind.

Agreed. Candy Island especially is possibly the most glaring example of lack of focus. Most of the time, I forgot Chieri and Kanako are even in Cinderella Project.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on August 03, 2015, 08:11:56 PM
Agreed. Candy Island especially is possibly the most glaring example of lack of focus. Most of the time, I forgot Chieri and Kanako are even in Cinderella Project.

Yeah. But it makes me beg the question: Do they lack character depth because they haven't been explored yet, or their characters aren't being explored because they have no depth to explore whatsoever?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on August 03, 2015, 08:20:19 PM
Yeah. But it makes me beg the question: Do they lack character depth because they haven't been explored yet, or their characters aren't being explored because they have no depth to explore whatsoever?

I can't speak for Kanako and Anzu, but Chieri is definitely the former.

In the actual game (and her anime bio), Chieri is afraid of being alone. Her parents are always working and thus she is lonely a lot of the time. That's the significance of the four-leaf clover; it's a reminder of her parents during one moment where she was at her happiest with them. It's also why she's heavily dependent on the Producer, since he is usually with her and she never wants him to leave her alone. The issue here is that the anime doesn't expand upon that.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on August 03, 2015, 09:52:01 PM
I can't speak for Kanako and Anzu, but Chieri is definitely the former.

In the actual game (and her anime bio), Chieri is afraid of being alone. Her parents are always working and thus she is lonely a lot of the time. That's the significance of the four-leaf clover; it's a reminder of her parents during one moment where she was at her happiest with them. It's also why she's heavily dependent on the Producer, since he is usually with her and she never wants him to leave her alone. The issue here is that the anime doesn't expand upon that.

Yeah, I mean, by what I see right now, poor Chieri is being 346's version of Yukiho in the way she's being presented. I mean, if Chieri's like that, why does she exist in the first place? Why not have Yukiho instead and leave it at that?

I mean, surely, there must be something more of Chieri, right? I desperately hope so. Same thing with Kanako. She must be more than just a source of fat jokes or something. And Anzu's got a little more character development in her, but she could be expanded upon.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on August 03, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
I like the concept of Chieri's separation anxiety, though it stresses the point this girl needs anything she can get. I'm still seeing Yukiho 2.0.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on August 03, 2015, 10:31:13 PM
The entire point of Cute Jewelries 02 was Chieri trying to develop another image for herself, so at least she's trying to be a better idol.

There's also been a fair amount of 4komas about how she's growing into her cute bunny image, which also carried over to the drama CDs, seeing as how the clover-eating bunny joke has been mentioned a few times. Or how she's been in more variety shows lately, but has to persevere as an idol no matter how crazy it gets (which makes it all the more adorable at how overjoyed she gets when given the opportunity to try on a wedding dress).

So yeah, Chieri might be Yukiho 2.0, but she's not a flat character either. It's just really hard to fit those issues in with the rest of the group, probably. To be fair, they DID have one moment where she got to bond with Producer over her debut in the Nomake, but I haven't seen anything else since.

http://cgtranslation.blogspot.kr/2015/03/idol-mster-cinderella-girls-no-make-ep-9.html

In contrast, Miku gets a ton of development because her issues affect the rest of the group. Hard work not paying off? Character gimmicks being discouraged? Miku is a pretty good postergirl for those.

As for the rest of Candy Island, Anzu is hard to develop without completely betraying her character. Bribing her with candy to do work, or convincing her to do work now so she doesn't have to do more work later works, but putting any more motivation beyond that stretches her gimmick out too far. As for Kanako, afaik, she really doesn't have anything beyond making sweets and being a "nice girl". At best, she's only just now starting to notice her own sex appeal (read: boobs) after being too busy always thinking she's fat, so she does start to advertise herself as the sexy symbol of Candy Island, but that just says enough on its own. It's kind of sad to say that her claim to fame is sex appeal and making sweets, but that's how it looks.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on August 07, 2015, 06:05:53 PM
Watched this week's episode and it was really good. It gave lot's of focus to DEKoration and explored their personalities a little more (better than in season 1)
And Momoka stopped being the forgotten one as she finally got a voice in this episode, although I would have liked if Koharu and Mai also get voice actresses too xddd
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on August 07, 2015, 06:18:57 PM
Watched this week's episode and it was really good. It gave lot's of focus to DEKoration and explored their personalities a little more (better than in season 1)
And Momoka stopped being the forgotten one as she finally got a voice in this episode, although I would have liked if Koharu and Mai also get voice actresses too xddd

Koharu was voiced here, if I'm not mistaken. Also DAMMIT, they voiced Momka! I was wondering how much longer they would keep this up, but I guess it had to end at some point.

Back to the actual episode, it finally solidified me actually really liking the Jougasaki Sisters and Miria as well. Gave each of them some level of depth and a common relation of "sister issues" that bring them all together. Really makes the characters feel more human and it's exactly what I want to see the rest of the show go through. Actually, this might be my favorite episode this entire season due to how well they handled the characters (and given this is A-1, this is a pretty good compliment).

Alright, all we really have left to flesh out is Candy Island, since everyone else had their time to shine and they're the only unit where everyone is still going "Who are you people?"
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Vas on August 07, 2015, 06:20:07 PM
Really liked this episode too. I wasn't really too big a fan of DEKoration nor too interested in most of the Passion girls but I definitely liked the "sister" character development between Rika, Mika, and Miria
One thing I'm glad they kinda phased out was the whole gloomy grey backdrops of the previous episodes. Understandably, the plot is still in the point of "Mishiro screws over 346 effect" but there wasn't as much background undertones that presented itself previously, which is nice in that hopefully the plot's gonna take a dramatic shift soon.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on August 07, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Koharu was voiced here, if I'm not mistaken. Also DAMMIT, they voiced Momka! I was wondering how much longer they would keep this up, but I guess it had to end at some point.

Back to the actual episode, it finally solidified me actually really liking the Jougasaki Sisters and Miria as well. Gave each of them some level of depth and a common relation of "sister issues" that bring them all together. Really makes the characters feel more human and it's exactly what I want to see the rest of the show go through. Actually, this might be my favorite episode this entire season due to how well they handled the characters (and given this is A-1, this is a pretty good compliment).

Alright, all we really have left to flesh out is Candy Island, since everyone else had their time to shine and they're the only unit where everyone is still going "Who are you people?"

I think and hope that next week will be a Candy Island episode and yeah was happy for Kaoru voiced cameo too, but c'mon A1, give more love to cute idols, now there are too many passion idols with voice.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on August 07, 2015, 06:40:09 PM
Also really liked this episode, really good overall.

We see now Mishiro is essentially holding divisions and projects at ransom to get the established idols to do her projects.

Seeing Mika and Miria together was cute and also made me think of Mika's seiyuu.
Also I think this is the first time where Miria has been plot relevant since there wasn't much she did in the Dekoration episode

That show they're on... Child Smock makes its return!
Rika at the end was so damn great

Koharu was voiced here, if I'm not mistaken.

Kaoru spoke but not Koharu.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on August 07, 2015, 07:25:34 PM
This episode was sooooo cute!!! I liked it a lot. Everyone's sort of pushing back against Mishiro in their own way... I feel some extra drama is on the way soon.

Also I could have sworn in her drama CD Miria had a baby brother, not a baby sister.

Next episode sounds like a Chieri episode from the title...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on August 07, 2015, 07:30:42 PM
This episode was sooooo cute!!! I liked it a lot. Everyone's sort of pushing back against Mishiro in their own way... I feel some extra drama is on the way soon.

Also I could have sworn in her drama CD Miria had a baby brother, not a baby sister.

Next episode sounds like a Chieri episode from the title...

"Yeah I also think that Mishiro will take actions against all of this...and I wonder what plans she'll have for Karen and Nao...

I also think that next week will focus on Chieri and the rest of Candy Island which will be amazing. I also hope for more cute and cool idols to appear in cameos, there are already too much passion idols...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on August 07, 2015, 08:05:51 PM
I couldn't be more satisfied with this episode! I've been waiting for a Jougasaki-centered episode for too long now! I swear, they do things to me. ♥

I'm glad Miria got some development too. She was way too precious, especially with Mika! I love her even more now! I actually haven't heard the drama CDs, but I thought for a second when I saw her baby sister that Miria would have to miss out on work to take care of her while her mother was away. Glad that wasn't the case.

Who said kindergarteners can't still be glamorous? Or in Miria's case, onee-chans?

Candy Island the next focus, huh? I hope so. Kana-chan and Chieri could use a bit of development too (especially since the sugar angel is one of my top girls).
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on August 07, 2015, 09:31:35 PM
Damn, A-1's really outdoing themselves here now. We've still got rampant drama and seemingly random idols getting in and out of focus, but this week's drama actually went places and led to some great character development. Maybe Miria will finally get more love now.

And thank fucking god that Momoka finally got a chance to shine. Half of LMBG got the shaft though, either by showing up and not having a voice (Mai, Koharu), or by not showing up at all (Chika, Yume, Arisu, and lol Wakaba).

Really hype for next episode if it's Chieri's turn to develop.

This episode was sooooo cute!!! I liked it a lot. Everyone's sort of pushing back against Mishiro in their own way... I feel some extra drama is on the way soon.

Also I could have sworn in her drama CD Miria had a baby brother, not a baby sister.

Next episode sounds like a Chieri episode from the title...

I keep seeing/hearing about Miria's supposed baby brother, and I don't understand why, because she quite clearly says "imouto" in all the official material I've seen/heard.

http://cgtranslation.blogspot.kr/2015/05/idol-mster-cinderella-girls-mezase.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqQ9LuZeaWw&t=1m40s (mistranslated here, not that the sub quality is great to begin with)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on August 08, 2015, 12:03:18 AM
Well, Miss Mishiro is still going on about quicker results in the beginning of this episode. And hah, she said that developing the idols' personalities is fine as long as it's in line with the company policy, to paraphrase her. That's like saying "you can have the Model T in any color, so long as it's black". That line was mildly comedy gold to me.

And yeah, I liked how the Jougasaki sisters and Miria, as well as with the support of Kirari and Candy Island, are huddling themselves together to solve each other's personal and work-related problems. It's like they're family now. Pretty good.

And last but not the least, has anyone noticed that even the backbone workforce and production crew of the company are, like, disregarding the reformation, for the sake of art?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on August 08, 2015, 12:54:37 AM
And last but not the least, has anyone noticed that even the backbone workforce and production crew of the company are, like, disregarding the reformation, for the sake of art?

Well, it's not as simple as a fight for art if I'm not wrong. It's a matter of keeping afloat because it's important for them to keep a their image alive, and therefore survival for the girls as working idols. 
Also, what Mishiro's doing sometimes happens in the real world, but it doesn't always work in the long run.  More than art is at stake is what I'm saying.


Edit:Come to think of it Mishiro's image rebranding is also for a certain aesthetic that Mishiro thinks is appropriate.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on August 08, 2015, 02:57:40 AM
This episode was sooooo cute!!! I liked it a lot. Everyone's sort of pushing back against Mishiro in their own way... I feel some extra drama is on the way soon.

Also I could have sworn in her drama CD Miria had a baby brother, not a baby sister.

Next episode sounds like a Chieri episode from the title...

YEEAAHHH!!!  I always enjoyed the little interactions between Rika and Mika in first cour, glad they finally got an episode focused around them along with Miria, and expanded on their sibling relationship.(Had this ep come any sooner, Rika might have still been my fav! x.x)  Ahhh, felt so many im@s vibes from this episode!  Is very good!  ;D  I'm only getting more and more hyped each week for that upcoming finale.

Cheiri! Yes please!~
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on August 10, 2015, 05:30:19 PM
It's looking like a Candy Island episode this week.

https://youtu.be/OQUDKrXDcKc

Candy Island + Sachiko..... This really needs to be good.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on August 14, 2015, 07:05:32 PM
Another great episode this week, though Miria's character development set a pretty high bar that I don't think anyone really topped this episode, even though I love Chieri and Kirari as well.

I did like how everything came together though. And the animation was pretty good again too. Who says Candy Island can't get good episodes?

I loved all the little mythology gags this episode too.

Anzu/Kirari shipping is the most obvious one, though I wasn't expecting Anzu to be the hesitant, almost insecure one, when Anzu's usually the laidback type. Usually it's Kirari's happy-happy front that breaks down first. But seeing Anzu blush a little like that was adorable.

Chieri not being able to find a clover, or Producer finding one for her, only for the leaf to fall off were practically straight out of her CD debut interview. Great stuff, had me laughing even if I felt bad for her. The ending where she drew a clover on her palm and ate it was adorable too.

The part where Sachiko was the mentor this time was pretty similar to Cute Jewelries 02 too, with how she "helped" Chieri become a better idol.

And lastly, Kanako's diet finally took a realistic turn when she went overboard. I like that they took that approach.

Beyond that, I like that they still found time to stick Mizuki, Airi, Karen, Nao, and KBYD in general in this episode, along with the rest of Totokira Academy's "kindergartners". Little cameos like those go a long way.

Seems like A-1's stepping up their game for real now. I like this pace. These are the kinds of episodes we needed, not stuff like Mio's arc, or even the current overarching one with Mishiro.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on August 14, 2015, 08:40:25 PM
I really liked this episode. The new song is great too, it wasn't what I was expecting but it still was really good.

Does this mean a new LOVE LAIKA song?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on August 14, 2015, 09:33:07 PM
This episode was nice. I liked the Anzu and Kirari stuff. I especially loved the new song Heart Voice.

So the formula seems to be the unit plus the idol that "helps them" on a new song. I like that. So I'm guessing the next episode is a Minami Anya episode since we havent seem that much yet. Who do you think is gonna be the "helper idol" for LL? Mizuki?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on August 14, 2015, 09:59:37 PM
Judging from the title, it sounds like a singing idol? I would say Kaede but she's out of the running :/
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on August 14, 2015, 11:21:49 PM
yeah i think you're right. nobody else i can really think of other than mizuki?? but given that they only have 2 units with a new songs we still have asterisk,new gen and ll that dont have one, so maybe kaede isnt completely out yet?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on August 14, 2015, 11:36:59 PM
Seems like A-1's stepping up their game for real now. I like this pace. These are the kinds of episodes we needed, not stuff like Mio's arc, or even the current overarching one with Mishiro.

Second this.  I was a little worried during the first half, but they managed to pull through with another great episode!  Love how they finally paired up Anzu and Kirari for the Ankira fans.  So I guess there's only Love Laika and Ranko left before they give the floor back to NG again.(Idk if Riina is gonna get her own ep or if they're just gonna leave it with that Miku/Nana ep)  Actually I think it's likely Riina will get her own ep like Miku but with that rocker idol as well.

This episode was nice. I liked the Anzu and Kirari stuff. I especially loved the new song Heart Voice.

So the formula seems to be the unit plus the idol that "helps them" on a new song. I like that. So I'm guessing the next episode is a Minami Anya episode since we havent seem that much yet. Who do you think is gonna be the "helper idol" for LL? Mizuki?


Yeah, I'm thinking Mizuki or Airi or both.  Also it might be possible for it to be Ranko(how she's holding hands with Minami and Anya in the OP) like what they did with Kirari this episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on August 15, 2015, 12:19:23 AM
From what I've seen of this anime, if I took a shot for every time someone cried in a matter correlating to drama, I'd be dancing on top of a speeding car~.

In my undies. Whilst giving police the fingers. And wearing this gingerbread mask (http://i.imgur.com/5csmD60.jpg). You know this won't be the last time, given the length of these seasons.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on August 15, 2015, 10:16:18 AM
Another great episode this week, though Miria's character development set a pretty high bar that I don't think anyone really topped this episode, even though I love Chieri and Kirari as well.

I did like how everything came together though. And the animation was pretty good again too. Who says Candy Island can't get good episodes?

I loved all the little mythology gags this episode too.

Anzu/Kirari shipping is the most obvious one, though I wasn't expecting Anzu to be the hesitant, almost insecure one, when Anzu's usually the laidback type. Usually it's Kirari's happy-happy front that breaks down first. But seeing Anzu blush a little like that was adorable.

Chieri not being able to find a clover, or Producer finding one for her, only for the leaf to fall off were practically straight out of her CD debut interview. Great stuff, had me laughing even if I felt bad for her. The ending where she drew a clover on her palm and ate it was adorable too.

The part where Sachiko was the mentor this time was pretty similar to Cute Jewelries 02 too, with how she "helped" Chieri become a better idol.

And lastly, Kanako's diet finally took a realistic turn when she went overboard. I like that they took that approach.

Beyond that, I like that they still found time to stick Mizuki, Airi, Karen, Nao, and KBYD in general in this episode, along with the rest of Totokira Academy's "kindergartners". Little cameos like those go a long way.

Seems like A-1's stepping up their game for real now. I like this pace. These are the kinds of episodes we needed, not stuff like Mio's arc, or even the current overarching one with Mishiro.

Well, all I can say is I'm finally discovering what the hell is wrong with Kanako and Chieri, then. To make this more clear, remember that scene where the NewGen girls and the two of them were having snacks together and then, when the focus was directed to them, the frame was like a few seconds of them doing nothing because they're shy? I laughed at that, because it perfectly sums up the problems with them: Because they're not necessarily expressive, they look like as if they don't have any personality to display. And this is in stark contrast to many of the idols in 346Pro, ya' know? Quirky and stuff?

But yeah, I really liked it when Producer told them something about them lacking smiles while doing their work. It reminds me of the first season, you know, the whole reason why he selected them to be Cinderella Girls or something. It was such a nice and sweet throwback to the scene.

And for all that is holy and profane, I was thankful that a mayhem didn't happen while Kanako and Chieri were trying to initially interview the glass artisan in his own shop. It's glass, for crying out loud. The girls were already spilling massive amounts of spaghetti, and accidental property damage isn't going to do miracles for their already crippled self-confidences.

I also got intrigued by Kirari in the way she replied to Anzu's question regarding the two of them being paired together: She practically treats the whole business with a smiling "que sera sera" attitude. I sorta want to see why she has this mindset now, which practically explains her generally quirkiness. Also, Ankira yuri levels have intensified by a few ticks in this episode.

And NewGen is practically treating Karen and Nao as comrades now. Peculiar, but well-appreciated.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on August 15, 2015, 10:26:52 AM
Is just me or did anyone else notice that with every episode of this season Uzuki gets more and more worried? I think this is a signal that something really bad is gonna happen to her nearly at the end of the anime.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on August 16, 2015, 11:18:50 PM
The new Cinderella master covers were announced:

Ranko gets Venus Syndrome (YAS!!!), Miria gets Chocolat Tiara (also good), and Chieri gets Dokidoki Rhythm (??).

The original song is Aikurushii/Charming, and if it's not a Sachiko song I'll eat my hat.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on August 17, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
so the new songs are usually duets
maybe since they have kaede/mizuki (cool/cool), mika/miho (passion,cute)

maybe the new song is sachiko and nana
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on August 17, 2015, 12:27:24 AM
a lot of fans are also guessing that asterisk's new ending song will be with natsuki? That seems a little weird granted she just got voiced. But we haven't really seen her get a magic hour special yet have we? newly voiced girls usually have a magic hour come out right after the episode they got voiced in so maybe its not that far of a long shot? a trio is a little weird to so maybe they'll add another idol in there that helped asterisk? all arrows would point to nana and it would even out cute and rock nicely. Riina,Miku,Natsuki,Nana. What a weird group.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on August 17, 2015, 12:50:37 AM
If asterisk gets a new song, I'm guessing it'll be with Natsuki or Nana? Those are the only two I can really see :/ Who else would Riina even mesh with...? Syoko, because heavy metal? But their personalities are so different...

Meanwhile Love Laika is another mystery. I get the feeling it'll focus on Anya because Minami already had an arc, so maybe another foreigner idol? Fred's kind of the only voiced non-100%-Japanese idol but I really can't see that.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Eab1990 on August 17, 2015, 03:25:21 PM
Sure looks like Natsuki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6qvRTIxp0U
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: monomarquis on August 17, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
WELL IM EXCITED. ;)
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Post by: altuixde on August 18, 2015, 06:13:11 AM
Daisuki has finally uploaded episodes 14-17 to YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5XBB1vj1xphXILM105h2EEO5QypRjfOf). It's getting late here on the East Coast, though, so I'll catch up with those episodes tomorrow.
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Post by: Maka on August 21, 2015, 05:56:46 PM
Haven't seen the new episode yet, but it involves a new Natsuki solo.
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Post by: Johnrevenge on August 21, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
Haven't seen the new episode yet, but it involves a new Natsuki solo.

It was a good solo for Natsuki I think that she'll take part in next wave of CD debuts. This week we only had an unvoiced idol who gets voice, thankfully it wasn't another passion idol, but a cool one this time :D

Another good episode that surprisingly made me like a little more the only idol of the main cast that I despise (yeah Miku, I'm looking at you).

This week also confirms my thoughts that in the next episodes Uzuki will suffer a big breakdown
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Post by: Maka on August 21, 2015, 09:40:19 PM
Oh man, the Triad Primus was strong in this episode.

I'll bet anything that Mishiro will pull Rin out of NG to work with Nao and Karen, and that'll be the thing that makes Uzuki lose faith in being an idol (except it will be resolved eventually). But if it means an actual Triad Prinus song then I can suffer through watching the drama.
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Post by: Nayre on August 22, 2015, 01:04:13 AM
Another great episode.  I've really warmed up to Riina this season.  She was my absolute least favorite from the start, and I never really acknowledged her as much as the others cause I was always put off by her lame poser rocker girl quirkiness.  So I'm pleased with how they fleshed out her character here, it helped me to understand and respect her sorta "ideal rock" a little more.  I also had fun watching her and Miku grow together as idols, as a unit, and as a couple.  Imo it was a good move pairing these 2 together.  Miku x Riina all the way!  ;D  Oh yeah, luvin the new songs too!

That foreshadowing with NG tho... Be expecting dark cloudy skies with a high chance of heavy rain once more.


This week also confirms my thoughts that in the next episodes Uzuki will suffer a big breakdown

I must steel myself for this...
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Post by: Chihayaa on August 22, 2015, 08:50:30 AM
I love how the other Cinderella Girl idols are being featured in the CINDERELLA PROJECT unit songs, just feels awesome to hear them! Can't wait to see the CD releases, it seems like it's two units per CD this time? From what it looks like, anyway.

Can't wait to see all the Rin and Nao and Karen and Uzuki stuff that seems inevitable at this point. If they pull a Haruka with Uzuki (in which Uzuki basically breaks down), they hopefully will do it well looking at how good these new episodes are. Uzuki is best girl after all. (don't kill me)
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Post by: Tengu B on August 23, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
Riina's been doing great, I love it. Miku x Riina x Natsuki and all.

I gotta wonder what Mishiro's doing with Kanade, Frederica, and Shuko as her ideal unit though.
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Post by: animagic4u on August 23, 2015, 06:55:42 PM
4 characters have just redeemed themselves in my opinion.
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Post by: MetalPredat0r on August 23, 2015, 08:02:00 PM
And Natsuki just moved up a bunch in my "CGs to keep an eye on" list. Good job, anime. You're doing fine so far.

Although I'm not excited for incredibly obvious Triad Primus/Uzuki suffering next episode. :/

4 characters have just redeemed themselves in my opinion.

Which ones?
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Post by: ChocoCats on August 23, 2015, 09:09:08 PM
Here's the song previews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILv6k2Guk-c&feature=youtu.be) for the 346pro idol selection vol.3. Enjoy.
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Post by: Maka on August 23, 2015, 09:45:28 PM
@ A-1: I know you're prepping for a drama bomb but don't forget giving Love Laika a focus episode. Plz???
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Post by: Nayre on August 24, 2015, 02:27:42 AM
Here's the song previews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILv6k2Guk-c&feature=youtu.be) for the 346pro idol selection vol.3. Enjoy.

Chieri's cover made my heart go DOKIDOKI pretty hard.

Whew, CG hype is real right now.  ;)
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on August 24, 2015, 07:11:44 AM
@ A-1: I know you're prepping for a drama bomb but don't forget giving Love Laika a focus episode. Plz???

I concur, but if you think that's bad, poor Ranko-chan has literally been reduced to cameo status! Certainly not happy-happy... ;~;
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Post by: Tengu B on August 24, 2015, 08:28:20 AM
I concur, but if you think that's bad, poor Ranko-chan has literally been reduced to cameo status! Certainly not happy-happy... ;~;

I think that Ranko will end up sharing an episode with Love Laika. But she could have shown up more yeah
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Post by: Nayre on August 24, 2015, 08:56:18 AM
poor Ranko-chan has literally been reduced to cameo status! Certainly not happy-happy... ;~;

That random scene with her on the bench keeps coming to mind lol. XD
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Post by: MetalPredat0r on August 24, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27006455

Here's the Anya episode we've been waiting fo-TOO BAD, SHIBUYA DRAMA TIME!
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Post by: Eab1990 on August 24, 2015, 07:26:42 PM
Here's the song previews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILv6k2Guk-c&feature=youtu.be) for the 346pro idol selection vol.3. Enjoy.

Oh, it was posted here instead.

Chieri does Rika's song so much better than Rika. Miria made Kanako's even catchier too.
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Post by: Kimiko on August 24, 2015, 07:35:48 PM
I like Rankos Version of Venus Syndrome...
But I kinda want a Azusa Version of the Song, I think that would sound great xD
But for the Cover Remixes on that CD, Rankos Cover of Minamis Song is my Favourite
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on August 25, 2015, 11:54:07 AM
@ A-1: I know you're prepping for a drama bomb but don't forget giving Love Laika a focus episode. Plz???

Uzuki, please hold on. We are hurt whenever we see one of you girls suffer. ;_;

But anyway, we still have that rockan' goin' on with Miku and Riina this episode and, although I am not too much of a fan of the "Rock is what you think it is." message (Sounds more like punk rock, though.), I'm glad that Darii's trying hard to go with what her chosen aesthetic is.

And yes, Ranko's reduced to a cameo status. What the fuck.

And also, this week, New Generations taking Karen and Nao under their wings is coming back to bite them in the arse, as Miss Mishiro over hears them singing together. Hmn, being Uzupaka is suffering indeed.
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Post by: ZetaFlare on August 28, 2015, 05:09:38 PM
don't forget giving Love Laika a focus episode. Plz???

They're due for a new song. As is Ranko. Somehow I've got a gut feeling we might see one from them in at least one or two weeks from now. I just bet Mishiro is just trying to find a way to screw with them IMO. I wouldn't count A-1 Steak Sauce out just yet...
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Post by: ZetaFlare on August 28, 2015, 08:21:12 PM
Episode 20 done!

Glad Anastasia finally got some time in the limelight. Aside from Memories, she really didn't seem to have that much dialogue. I thought she'd be left in the dust, but it's nice to see that being with Minami seemed to make her much more confident.

I'll be honest, I was actually expecting more of a breakdown from Uzuki in this episode. Still, was Mio's quick decision to fly solo a good one? (to me it looked like Mio wanted to take some time to think about the situation regarding Rin's decision compared to her drama bomb in Episode 6/7...makes me wonder what the YouTube comments will say about Mio now...I still remember seeing all the "wtf selfish b****" flak she got on Episode 7's preview video).

And Uzuki still puzzles me. Wonder what will happen to her, especially seeing how indecisive she was about Rin's decision with Triad Primus. Still, question now is what will inevitably push Uzuki over the deep end as the series comes to a close?

Okay, now that we got some Anya time, let's see some Ranko! Been a while since we heard from her...the only solo project of Cinderella Project. There has to be some way Mishiro can screw with her.
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Post by: nastynate on August 28, 2015, 09:03:55 PM
Wow... That was intense. Although, with all the good wrap ups in the previous episodes I guess we were due with some major drama.

I really like how conflicted the characters are now and it's intertwined with the whole project. It's a situation where you really can't blame them with going with a new offer (especially Rin. Man, I loved that song in an instant!). I don't blame Mio for distancing herself, either. It's actually pretty smart, but that leaves poor Uzuki out alone in the pasture. Yeah, that's a breakdown waiting to happen, but I'll wait til next week for that. I can't take much more tension for now!
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Post by: monomarquis on August 28, 2015, 09:44:17 PM
get ready for mio hate part 2.


run down of episode for me:
-minami supporting anastasia's decision was really nice to see and avoided unneeded ll drama.
-mio going solo because she is hurt and feels abandoned by rin (this is understandable).
-r.i.p uzuki
- kono sora no shita is nice
-PROJECT KRONE IS SO COOL I WANT THEM TO SING (unlikely)
-TRIAD PRIMUS SONG ITS BEEN 30000 YEARS
- sad takeuchi kills me
- obligatory uzuki/minami duet song anyone lmao
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on August 28, 2015, 09:44:45 PM
Sure is stinger around here, Mio. Now the traces of Uzuki's emotional destruction are becoming realized -- as is expected of any anime protagonist in a slice-of-life with drama elements! Be a trooper, girl.

Regarding Anastasia, I loved how mature they addressed her way of growth; you may not like change, but you'll never know where the next page turn leads. I admittedly see this flaw in myself, even.
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Post by: Tengu B on August 28, 2015, 10:34:36 PM
I think the solo is partially because feelings of abandonment and/or betrayal. Maybe too strong but not impossible either.
I've seen a few different interpretations of her decision though.
Of course Nao and Karen seem to be moving exactly as Mishiro wants so I expect something about them to come up in the anime too.


I just really want to point out that when the clock went foward in Mio's room, the clock in Uzuki's room went backwards.
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Post by: Maka on August 29, 2015, 12:24:37 AM
This is a bit of an out-there theory, but I wouldn't be surprised if P-kun forms his own agency so he can protect the smiles of his idols. The series obviously won't have a depressing ending, but I can't see Mishiro letting the idols have their happy ending.

Plus it'd set up a rival company for the inevitable CG game. :P
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Post by: suzushinayuriko on August 29, 2015, 02:37:27 AM
Wow, that episode was really good. I like how it brought up a lot of issues the original IDOLM@STER anime didn't touch on, like company management conflict and disbanding music groups.

Mio announced she is a solo artist now. I could forgive her for the weird drama from season one when she was still new and didn't know any better. However, this seems like a really impulsive and rude move. I get she's upset - but what's going to happen to Uzuki after this? Did she announce this without taking her feelings into account at all?

Probably what's going to happen is Uzuki's loss of motivation and a streak of lackluster results. This will probably put her under the scrutiny of Director Mishiro. She'll probably be called in for a conference about her future - if it gets really bad, maybe a termination from the company will be impending. I think this would be a direct contrast to Uzuki at the start of the series.
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Post by: Vas on August 29, 2015, 03:45:05 AM
Fumika appearance. 'Nuff said
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Post by: Chance4U on August 29, 2015, 04:12:38 AM
However, this seems like a really impulsive and rude move. I get she's upset - but what's going to happen to Uzuki after this? Did she announce this without taking her feelings into account at all?

Isn't this what Rin did for Triad Primus? Even though she confronted New Gen, she decided to do it without really considering the entire implications of these actions and visibly upset her unit mates.

Either way, being Uzuki is suffering. She's going to end up in a worse situation than Ai was in at this rate.
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Post by: Maka on August 29, 2015, 04:34:15 AM
Honestly I think Rin is more at fault here...

She pretty much told the others she wasn't getting what she wanted despite all they had been through, and dumped it on them out of nowhere... Mio had nothing to lose because NG was already in shambles, but Rin basically split the entire unit for her own (admittedly selfish) reasons. Mio did mess up but dang, Rin, that wasn't called for.

But Rin is my least fave of the trio so I'm biased.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on August 29, 2015, 05:42:34 AM
Finally, things are set into motion for the (former)members of NG.  That whole falling-out bit was handled pretty well imo.  So Rin deciding to join the Triad Primes for the feels, breaking apart the group, causing a distraught Mio to also act on her own and fly solo, leaving behind poor Uzuki in the dust all alone.(see the s#!tstorm you caused, Rin?! All this girl ever wanted was to live everyday, doing her best with a smile! *wipes tear* h-how could you be so selfish?! shame on you!!!!! nah jk i still love you, Rin XD)Well, all that's left is to see how Uzuki reacts to all this.  Really excited to see how this plays out. (stay strong girl! for my sake as well) 
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Post by: nastynate on August 29, 2015, 08:12:23 AM
I don't believe it's any of the idols fault. They can't help being being ambitious in their line of work. If anyone's to blame it's Mishiro's. She's even turned you against each other!  :P

We should all know how it's going to end. There'll be a few twists and turns in store, but nothing surprising as far as the outcome. I hope...
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Post by: Ivan The Mouse on August 29, 2015, 12:42:27 PM
Well, you can't make an omelet without breaking a few units and potentially some friendships. In the case of Anya, I think she handled it well. (What of Minami now, then?)

But the case of New Gen, well... THE WRECKING DRAMA TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES RIGHT NOW. Rin went ahead without some consultations from her unit. Thus, Mio just went in and added fuel to the engine. What of Uzuki now, then? I mean, what the fuck? She's average and she knows that much is true, so I'm pretty sure this would be a source of angst for her: Without the other two, who the fuck is she?

I honestly feel like Miss Mishiro's restructuring is being too hard to the company, but I think it is justified in this case when it comes to the company.
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Post by: Johnrevenge on August 29, 2015, 01:02:18 PM
I think that depsite Anastasia joined Project Krone, she is still part of Love Laika with Minami. She only has to find balance between both projects. Mishiro told Rin and Anya that despite joining Krone, they can still be part of their units

I think that the biggest breakdown for Uzuki will be because of Mishiro (she'll probably fire Uzuki or humilliate her somehow, telling her she is not idol material). I'm angry at Mio for ditching~and backstabbing Uzuki like that, Mio is a total b@# and a cry baby (she could have talked with Uzuki about forming a duo unit or something like that)

A shame that there wasn't no cute idol cameo this week, but I liked how Fumika appeared in this episode
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Post by: Chance4U on August 29, 2015, 03:27:52 PM
Honestly though, A-1 is actually handling this "inner company drama" pretty well. Things like this happen every now and then in groups like AKB48 or P.IDL, and the way that they're focusing on it works nicely. It reminds me a lot of how Perfume had this situation on a smaller scale when they debuted. This drama is honestly a nice break from the "scandal" craziness that almost always makes an appearance. Seriously, how many times has a 765 idol nearly had their career damaged by a scandal? This trend started way back in relations, and Miki/Chihaya have kept it running since.

It makes me wonder how the Winter Ball will work though.. Currently we have the 20 CP idols, plus a few that were added in like Natsuki and Ayame. Will the Project Krone members be added into their performance? What about idols like Mizuki, Aiko, Kaoru, Ryo, or Yuka Yuka who haven't interacted very often with the main cast?

We still have yet to see some of the idols who have made cameos in the anime yet, like in Episode 6's photoshoot idols or Asuka and Kyoko's posters.. Will the idols who "debuted" in Starlight Stage get to appear as well?
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Post by: Nerroth on August 29, 2015, 11:38:01 PM
I was surprised to hear them pronounce Primus as "Puriimasu" instead of "Puraimasu" in the show. Has it always been pronounced that way in  this franchise?

(Speaking of Primus, I can't imagine that He would appreciate the irony of His name being shared with a group whose creation is aimed at sowing discord...)
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Post by: Tengu B on August 30, 2015, 06:12:59 PM
I was surprised to hear them pronounce Primus as "Puriimasu" instead of "Puraimasu" in the show. Has it always been pronounced that way in  this franchise?

It's been pronounced that way since the unit was introduced.
I think they chose the word just to mean 'foremost' or 'best' or 'premier'  from its Latin meaning, and I'm sure any irony associated with the name is lost on the Japanese.
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Post by: mariokirby on August 30, 2015, 07:11:47 PM
I do admit, the series is not bad.  I actually enjoy it a little more than the 2011 series mostly because the CG producer is much cooler than the 2011 producer (he kind of ruined the anime for me in my opinion).

The CG producer doesn't talk very much.  But, you know what they say.  Actions speak louder than words.
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Post by: Nerroth on August 30, 2015, 08:58:08 PM
It's been pronounced that way since the unit was introduced.
I think they chose the word just to mean 'foremost' or 'best' or 'premier'  from its Latin meaning, and I'm sure any irony associated with the name is lost on the Japanese.

The Japanese dubs or productions I was thinking of referred to "Primus" as プライマス (Puraimasu) - I wasn't aware that there different transliterations of the Latin word in katakana.

And of course, since that Primus belongs to a rival company's IP, I doubt that Bandai Namco would have deliberately chosen to use the name with that reference in mind. I was thinking more of how things have gone in the show, with Triad Primus being used to upset the Cinderella Project's apple cart...
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Post by: DeviantProtagonist on August 31, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Monochrome rain. We meet again, you antagonistic bastard. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M01bFDweDxg)
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Post by: Nayre on August 31, 2015, 08:30:10 PM
Monochrome rain. We meet again, you antagonistic bastard. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M01bFDweDxg)

Kinda scared to click that.  Uhhh... I think I'll wait til Friday. XD
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Post by: Roswell on September 02, 2015, 03:08:06 AM
I like how it's becoming more and more evident that TakeuchiP's whole "smile" reason for scouting them actually wasn't a bullshit answer.

Anyways...
Anyone else notice the connections to New Gen's solo image songs in this episode? Mitsuboshi was all about the three of them and she admitted in this episode that she was able to get this far because of them. Never say never is about moving forward (and not looking back). Meanwhile... S(mile)ing is about Uzuki shaking off her hesitation and finding her own voice in order to realize her long time dream, to stand on stage. These new developments are forcing her to do just that.
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Post by: Nayre on September 02, 2015, 09:18:27 AM
I like how it's becoming more and more evident that TakeuchiP's whole "smile" reason for scouting them actually wasn't a bullshit answer.

Anyways...
Anyone else notice the connections to New Gen's solo image songs in this episode? Mitsuboshi was all about the three of them and she admitted in this episode that she was able to get this far because of them. Never say never is about moving forward (and not looking back). Meanwhile... S(mile)ing is about Uzuki shaking off her hesitation and finding her own voice in order to realize her long time dream, to stand on stage. These new developments are forcing her to do just that.

Holy crap!  I applaud you sir for noticing this!  Haha, I guess that explains why I had that sudden urge to listen to S(mile)ing! right after that episode.
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Post by: nastynate on September 04, 2015, 06:55:56 PM
Hmm... That resolved rather conveniently. I was expecting a little more development between Mio and Rin, but I guess that rehearse bit was enough. The line-up in a couple units changed, but I like Koume paired with Ranko. Even Uzuki's issue is looking up a bit. I dunno, but with everything that went down I was expecting a little more oomph. With everything falling into place I don't even feel much conflict is happening heading towards the event. Not that I'm expecting complete idol chaos, but... At least people can stop jumping on Mio's back. Hopefully, lol.

Unless that's the point that friendship and understanding fixes everything. With such a huge group of people, though, eh...
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Post by: Tengu B on September 04, 2015, 07:48:32 PM
Hmm... That resolved rather conveniently.

I don' think anything actually resolved this episode. In the end Uzuki got darker without being able to say anything, and Rin went to Krone without really understanding how left behind Uzuki feels. And for what, even. None of the members of Krone even looked at each other in the ending. If anything I think this episode creates more problems for the future.

And this episode the clock needle at the end didn't move forward this time, so they haven't gotten anywhere. .


Also, where's Kyouko? She should be there…
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on September 04, 2015, 09:31:36 PM
RAN RAN!!!  Ranko opening up made this episode for me.  ;D

Well, the drama ended up being much lighter than I was expecting.  Props to Mio though for being understanding and handling the issue pretty well in an unusual manner.  However, Uzuki's suffering continues on for another episode!  And we only got a few of those left.  I wonder if it's too late to still hope for a Chihaya tier episode?  Not much else to say, let's see how it turns out. 

And this episode the clock needle at the end didn't move forward this time, so they haven't gotten anywhere. .


Also, where's Kyouko? She should be there…

Lol, I'm always trying to make sense of/catch up to the subs caught up in the moment that I keep missing all these details.  ::)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 04, 2015, 10:49:43 PM
Oh man, concert episodes are my favorite kind of episode. >:3c

i really liked the "everyone has to find their own path, but that doesn't mean that your experiences as a group aren't important" message in this episode. I've never seen that in an idol anime before.

that being said... RIP, best unit ;_;7 hopefully this doesn't mean Anya and Minami are gonna be never mentioned again.


But the clock did tick though???
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Tengu B on September 05, 2015, 12:21:14 AM
But the clock did tick though???

Oh whoops, I meant it didn't tick on the rooftop when they were supposed to be coming to terms with each other. Even though the clock was visible. It did tick, but only after Rin made her decision on Triad.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on September 05, 2015, 09:49:08 AM
Welp, I guess that things must change and move on for Love Laika and NewGen. Even if it means dissolution of the units. This was underlined when the two units were announced to not participate with the fall concert. An omelet, indeed.

But yeah, Uzupaka's a bit less suffering now. And she being paired in a unit with Miho Kohinata. Let's see how this goes.

Let's see how deep the rabbit hole goes, before we get neck-deep in drama.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on September 07, 2015, 04:59:01 PM
Preview for Episode 22. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44RXmZ2krTU)

Also, Nana, Natsuki, and Koume are wearing the My First Star costumes...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on September 07, 2015, 10:38:10 PM
Preview for Episode 22. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44RXmZ2krTU)

Also, Nana, Natsuki, and Koume are wearing the My First Star costumes...

Preview giving off lighthearted vibes, could easily be a facade though... Is this the cinderella ball already?  I was expecting there would've been a prep episode beforehand or something.  Well damn, something's about to go down.

It took me a few a replays to find Koume and the others, Karen and Nao kept stealing my attention lol.  So ravishing.
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Post by: Maka on September 08, 2015, 11:23:45 PM
Nah, it's the Fall Fes, I believe?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on September 11, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
It was inevitable. Shimamu has officially snapped...you could tell with Rin being chosen to stay with Triad Primus.

My guess is that she feels she has come so far with Rin and Mio it was just way too hard to be separated from them. It's like she wants to do the very best she can to make her dream as an idol come true, but like she can't do it without them...as if she felt like a burden to Miho. Looks like it's up to Rin, Mio, and TakeuchiP to save the day and get Shimamu out of her slump...as long as the wicked stepmother known as Mishiro doesn't totally mess with her (and the rest of Cinderella Project for that matter).

At the end...the clock moves one minute...to 12:00...
Has Uzuki's spell been broken?

On a side note, glad to hear a more complete version of Trancing Pulse...AWESOME song! Even better...Venus Syndrome!!!!

You know something, now that I think about it...

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Meanwhile... S(mile)ing is about Uzuki shaking off her hesitation and finding her own voice in order to realize her long time dream, to stand on stage.

...you might be right. Pretty clever move, A-1.
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Post by: Nayre on September 11, 2015, 10:32:02 PM
There it is finally...

It was inevitable. Shimamu has officially snapped...

And the Haruka route, it is then.

At the end...the clock moves one minute...to 12:00...
Has Uzuki's spell been broken?

Ah, I was wondering what that could've meant.


All the drama aside, THAT PERFORMANCE.  My heart... I felt like it just stopped beating during that entire song.  Very nice animation too!  I also didn't see any noticeable budget cuts this time around so that's a plus.  And TakeP's "Power of Smile" seems to be super effective. XD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on September 12, 2015, 01:28:44 AM
And the Haruka route, it is then.

Actually, I think Roswell's image song connection may have a point here. The trick with Shimamu is that she felt too hesitant/helpless without Rin and Mio...remember how she didn't know what to say about Rin's decision to move forward with Traid Primus? Think S(mile)ing...she might need some time to break out of her shell and find her own voice (rather than try to reunite NG)...which could be the "glass slipper" she needs to make a comeback in time for the winter ball.

But that's my thought. Everyone talking about adventures, doing something different and all.

Kind of surprised Rin didn't have a breakdown yet. You know, like Chihaya did.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 12, 2015, 01:47:03 AM
Rin seems to have a pretty stable home life, so I can't see her having a Chihaya-style breakdown. But I have an active dislike for Rin so I don't have a good grasp on her character, lol.

But man, Uzuki's breakdown was really creepy to me for some reason. I kept expecting her to just completely snap despite the fact that imas is usually pretty cute and fluffy.

Additionally, no one's mentioned this but i think Mishiro's beginning to change as well, as represented from her watching the concert from high above the rabble to getting actually backstage after Fumika collapsed. Maybe she'll have a change of heart no doubt finalized by the inevitable group song in the last episode

This post is turning kind of rambly but the most impressive part to me was how amazing Trancing Prism turned out. When they sung the preview a few episodes ago, I was completely underwhelmed in a "THIS is the Triad Primus song we waited years for?" way. But seeing it as an actual song changed my view entirely. Also, duet version of Rhapsodia when :|
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on September 12, 2015, 02:35:26 AM
A-1 Pictures is REALLY good at inciting emotions so far. My heart was pretty much pounding the entire episode.

Also, including some S(mil)ing foreshadowing was just amazing. I can't wait to see what they do with best girl!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on September 12, 2015, 02:36:40 AM
I don't want to wait till 14th of october for full trancing pulse -.-
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on September 12, 2015, 03:55:24 AM
Actually, I think Roswell's image song connection may have a point here. The trick with Shimamu is that she felt too hesitant/helpless without Rin and Mio...remember how she didn't know what to say about Rin's decision to move forward with Traid Primus? Think S(mile)ing...she might need some time to break out of her shell and find her own voice (rather than try to reunite NG)...which could be the "glass slipper" she needs to make a comeback in time for the winter ball.

Ah sorry, fail on my part.  What I meant by that was the similar course of unfolding events.
both losing it --> going on depression --> finding way
But I totally agree with with you on your thoughts there.

I don't want to wait till 14th of october for full trancing pulse -.-

Ahhh!  That's so far off!  Oh well, at least the preview is satisfying enough for now.

I'll just leave it here for everyone else also. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwuEEA1jSCQ)

Omg, I can't... those vocals... everything... it's so perfect... leaves me breathless every single time.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 12, 2015, 04:32:24 AM
Wait, wasn't it Trancing Prism before??? Is this another Itsumademo, Dokomademo/Watashitachi wa Zutto Deshou???
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: nastynate on September 12, 2015, 08:28:22 AM
If things keep up like this I'm expecting Uzuki to shave her head, ala Minegishi and Spears.
I was getting Perfect Blue vibes from her, too. Really, it was more intense than Mayu Sakuma could ever leave an impression with. TakeP pretty thread carefully.

Everyone else seems to be doing well and are happy, so that's fair enough.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on September 12, 2015, 01:56:34 PM
Wait, wasn't it Trancing Prism before??? Is this another Itsumademo, Dokomademo/Watashitachi wa Zutto Deshou???

no it was trancing pulse all along ^^
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on September 12, 2015, 05:40:31 PM
This week on Cinderella Gurls, we seem to have witnessed Takeuchi-P's first sick burn against the Executive Director. When she said that he seemed to have saved his division, he simply replied something along the lines of just doing his job as someone "who was there". Considering that Miss Mishiro was watching from her high vantage point the whole time, that's a heavy but subtle diss quote from the Producer.

But now, we've got Uzuki going on some sorta catatonic or auto-pilot state, I dunno. I would like to call this state of mind as "production paranoia". It's like "potluck paranoia", but the insecurity comes from the question "Am I doing good enough?"

But yeah, we'll have a full deck of Cinderella Girls on the next concert. Woop-de-freakin'-doo, people.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: nastynate on September 18, 2015, 07:08:41 PM
Wow. Until NewGen gets up and running again, I'll just feel sorry for Uzuki. I'm kind of sorry for her, but I'm also mad at her for disrupting Mio and Rin. Yeah, it kind of came around from the beginning when Rin joined and Mio locked herself in her room, but those two have something going on for them now. Uzuki feels left behind, which, yeah, she is. She's basically the Tito of the Jackson 5, but to her that's a bad thing. Ah, well.

Next week should be gangbuster!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 18, 2015, 11:05:12 PM
(That one "you can actually pinpoint the moment his heart rips in half" Simpsons gag)

All jokes aside, DANG. That part where Uzuki was just sobbing may or may not have broken my heart. Oh god I used to think she was horrifically generic and now I just want to give her a big hug.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: suzushinayuriko on September 18, 2015, 11:55:15 PM
Aghhh, that moment when she says "The Producer said I had a nice smile... but... smiling, laughing, anyone can do that!" and starts crying just kills me.

I don't really know much about the card game, but didn't something happen where Uzuki's popularity was lagging and she fell behind everyone else? If it was intentional to make that a vital part of her character development, it's cool they invoked a meta aspect for the anime.

Also, I totally called Mishiro attempting to terminate her from the company.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on September 19, 2015, 01:00:10 AM
That voice acting gave me goosebumps. Probably one of the most realistic crying ever shed in an anime ;-;

Also, it seems they're pushing the final episode another week for a Special Program? They'll probably make an amazing final episode. This week's just lacked something that I can't pinpoint for some reason.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on September 19, 2015, 01:56:56 AM
Whew, that honestly hit me a lot harder than I was prepared for.  That whole event from her being confronted by Rin and Mio all the way to her breaking down had me stuggling(in vain) to keep my tears at bay.  Seriously though, I'm glad they put some thought and effort into Uzuki's arc, I was getting a little worried tbh.  I can't wait to see how this all follows up next episode, which seems to be pushed back a week for another special.(Gah, the timing! >.<)  Well, now's a good time to listen to that S(mile)ing!, Rin ver.  Sing, for Uzuki! XD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on September 19, 2015, 02:26:39 AM
Aghhh, that moment when she says "The Producer said I had a nice smile... but... smiling, laughing, anyone can do that!" and starts crying just kills me.

I don't really know much about the card game, but didn't something happen where Uzuki's popularity was lagging and she fell behind everyone else? If it was intentional to make that a vital part of her character development, it's cool they invoked a meta aspect for the anime.
Uzuki's story regarding that was that Uzuki was largely ignored for most of the first couple months of the game. She had one of the weakest cards, no SRares (back when that was a good judge of how popular a character was, now everyone has like at least 3), and really nothing going for her- her stats were so weak that she was basically unusable.

But then it became kind of a meme how ignored she was, especially since Rin was like instantly popular. Basically she became popular for being unpopular and not catching up to the other girls who were getting powerful cards (Azuki got an SR before her- when was the last time you heard anything about Azuki?). The "she's too generic" vibe a lot of people got turned into a kind of character trait. And that was how she got popular! Now basically the "Shimamura-San pity" meme is in the past since she's one of the most popular characters and the poster girl for the series along Rin.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on September 19, 2015, 09:37:59 AM
It was a good episode and they managed well Uzuki's insecurities and fears. This episode confirmed that Mishiro won a place in Hell.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on September 19, 2015, 09:51:32 AM
Azuki got an SR before her- when was the last time you heard anything about Azuki?

Huh, wut? Who dat? O.o

Oh... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=azuki+project+imas)

Hmmm.  Kawaii.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on September 19, 2015, 04:50:48 PM
It was a good episode and they managed well Uzuki's insecurities and fears. This episode confirmed that Mishiro won a place in Hell.

Ah, the troubles of an average girl trying to find her place in a industry filled with specialties and specialization.

And that speech by Miss Mishiro regarding stars being covered with clouds being nothing but darkness. That's like saying the stars we can't see doesn't exist.

But yeah, I hope some kind soul will translate the next special episode.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on September 19, 2015, 06:57:12 PM
Ah, the troubles of an average girl trying to find her place in a industry filled with specialties and specialization.

And that speech by Miss Mishiro regarding stars being covered with clouds being nothing but darkness. That's like saying the stars we can't see doesn't exist.

But yeah, I hope some kind soul will translate the next special episode.

Definitely DAISUKI. They translated and streamed the first Special Episode, and (at least on the iOS app) ads can be skipped by simply pressing them and clicking away, not to mention 1080p. It's all good =P
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: nastynate on October 02, 2015, 06:13:44 PM
Alright, ep. 24 was good and all, but ...that was it? Uzuki held herself back for that?
I'm hoping they're going to announce a third season or film at one of the lives happening later this year or early next, 'cause ...that was a bit of a letdown. I don't know, maybe I was expecting something else to happen. I need time to think about this.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on October 03, 2015, 12:43:18 AM
That execution... was a bit weird.  I was hoping for a little more, especially coming from that last episode.  Oh well, in the end it's still a pretty good episode overall, despite there being some cringeworthy stuff.(not gonna lie XD)  I gave it a rewatch and I enjoyed it more the 2nd time around, so I guess my expectations were a bit high going into it the first time.  I didn't think they'd actually have Uzuki perform S(mile)ING! lol.  Love how they included that last line of the full ver.  Another special next week? o_o

I'm hoping they're going to announce a third season or film at one of the lives happening later this year or early next, 'cause ...that was a bit of a letdown. I don't know, maybe I was expecting something else to happen. I need time to think about this.

Well, it isn't over yet.  There's still one episode left I believe.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nalo_Chin on October 03, 2015, 02:07:17 AM
Before, I thought of Uzuki as a cute innocent cinnamon roll. Because of the S(mile)ING scene I think she's even greater. Maybe it's because of the way the animation portrayed it to look, but I'm pretty happy for Uzuki.

That execution... was a bit weird.  I was hoping for a little more, especially coming from that last episode.  Oh well, in the end it's still a pretty good episode overall, despite there being some cringeworthy stuff.(not gonna lie XD)  I gave it a rewatch and I enjoyed it more the 2nd time around, so I guess my expectations were a bit high going into it the first time.

I could honesty say the same on some parts. First time watching, I kind of laughed because it felt really "anime like." Of course it's an anime duh... But the part when Uzuki was running through a forest felt kind of cheesy. But it was still cute and it kind of made sense for it to be there. So I'm pretty satisfied. uwu
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Chihayaa on October 03, 2015, 03:09:43 AM
The entire episode was really good, but for being delayed a week, it was just a slight letdown. Apparently, they're having another Special Episode so that's great.

Uzuki singing her title song was just awesome, even if I expected it. That was an awesome build up, and I can't wait for a possible movie!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on October 03, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
Haha, it's hard to believe when there's seems to be nothing to believe to anymore. Right, Uzuki?

But yeah, is it me, or I just felt nothing? That episode was good, but I just felt nothing, almost nothing. Gee, I should stop watching emotionally abusive Western movies, it's having less of an effect to me.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: animagic4u on October 06, 2015, 12:52:02 AM
Didn't cry during anim@s, cried a lot over Uzuki
Wonder why this scene was so much more emotional considering Uzuki's issue is nearly the same as Kana's in the iDOLM@STER movie?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on October 06, 2015, 01:06:28 AM
Wonder why this scene was so much more emotional considering Uzuki's issue is nearly the same as Kana's in the iDOLM@STER movie?

Because Kana's drama was handled pretty badly in the movie yet Uzuki was handled pretty well. At the very least, Uzuki didn't quit and gain weight due to her problems.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on October 07, 2015, 03:43:58 AM
I think a lot of it, for me anyways, was the overall execution(I use this word too much >.<), like how convincing they made it in showing the extent of Uzuki's suffering.  You could really feel her desperation as she's losing confidence in herself, struggling to find that one thing to make her shine like all the others.  Also some other things like how she had some proper build up leading up to all the drama, her situation was more believable because it's actually in line with her character, making it easier to sympathize with than Kana's weight gain thing.  And cause it's Uzuki(this should be the main reason, guyz XD), the extremely average and innocent girl always trying to do her best with that heartwarming smile, powerful enough to melt the whole antarctic and cause global warming, she's the last CG you'd ever want to see have that kind of emotional breakdown.

(https://j.gifs.com/y78bAj.gif)

"But... I want to believe that I can shine too!" T.T
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on October 11, 2015, 02:23:23 PM
No episode this week or what?
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on October 11, 2015, 03:10:31 PM
the should have ended a special episode this week... the ending with the last seems so.. cut off if you compare it to 765pros ending, where they all did shine together.... a nd here... it's only uzuki. not that I don't like her, I really do! But 765 had 25 Episodes and the 26th special. they should have done that with CG too
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on October 11, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
The final episode airs this coming Friday. There was no episode this week bevause there was a special program.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: nastynate on October 12, 2015, 09:06:54 AM
I was hoping Daisuki would have the SPs uploaded and translated, like what they did with the first season, but I guess they didn't feel like doing it this time  :-\
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: altuixde on October 13, 2015, 03:57:54 AM
I'm finally caught up with this anime. Man I wish I had kept up with it for the entire two seasons so I could've read this thread as the episodes were airing. At the end of episode 23 I was just TT-TT for Uzuki. Even after seeing the end of episode 24 I still have a trace of doubt that she was able to keep her place at 346 Pro... because Mishiro didn't actually vocalize her decision.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on October 13, 2015, 04:47:37 AM
I'm finally caught up with this anime. Man I wish I had kept up with it for the entire two seasons so I could've read this thread as the episodes were airing.

At least you're here for the finale! XD  Only a few days left...

Gonna go off topic, but wow the preview for Trancing Pulse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwuEEA1jSCQ) already hit 130k views in just a month, even surpassing Memories which is at 121k.(and it came out in February)  They could've made it a unit album single and it would've easily topped Oricon's chart at #3 at the very least on its own.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on October 13, 2015, 08:31:12 AM
At least you're here for the finale! XD  Only a few days left...

Gonna go off topic, but wow the preview for Trancing Pulse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwuEEA1jSCQ) already hit 130k views in just a month, even surpassing Memories which is at 121k.(and it came out in February)  They could've made it a unit album single and it would've easily topped Oricon's chart at #3 at the very least on its own.

I am not suprised, Trancing Pulse is such a great song, lucky that it comes out tomorrow~ which means I will have it on friday at my home~ Thanks to my friend who studies in japan and ordered me a copy and will send it to me via EMS xD
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on October 14, 2015, 08:09:20 AM
Let's get some hype going for that last ep!

Oh, before that.  So I've been trying to catch up with all the No Make stuff lately.  I'm not sure if anyone posted this elsewhere already, but if anyone is interested in listening to them, this person has kindly translated them along with all the Magic Hour ep. up to this point on his blog. (http://cgtranslation.blogspot.com/)  I recommend giving at least the No Makes a listen if you haven't already, since they included some interesting things that weren't in the anime like NG's portion of the PR vid from ep 4, what the other girls were doing in the mall during NG/LL's debut concert, and Uzuki receiving her first fan letter after the summer fes, to name a few.  And I gotta say, I really liked how the scripts were actually very well-written(even more than most the convos in the anime itself  :o), with a lot of heartwarming and cute moments throughout. XD  I think a couple of the audios were missing/removed tho, but they're easy enough to find on youtube.

Back to the main topic at hand!  Any predictions on how this will end?  Tbh, I'm just more concerned/excited about what song they will perform.(eh? Amirite? AMIRITE?! XDDD)  I'm really hoping for Onegai! Cinderella extended ver(if not full).  It would be a nice way to bring this back to how it all started.  So that, and a new song like how 765 got Watashi-tachi wa Zutto.  Though I have a slight feeling they might try to be clever and combine the 2 OPs again.(StarShine? O.o)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on October 16, 2015, 04:24:53 AM
Drew this just recently on my Deviantart page.
Looking forward to a huge finale!

#ProtectTheEgao (http://zetaflarep.deviantart.com/art/Uzuki-Shimamura-Protect-The-Egao-566424338) (don't worry...it's a Deviantart link)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on October 16, 2015, 09:12:27 AM
Drew this just recently on my Deviantart page.
Looking forward to a huge finale!

#ProtectTheEgao (http://zetaflarep.deviantart.com/art/Uzuki-Shimamura-Protect-The-Egao-566424338) (don't worry...it's a Deviantart link)

D'awww... *sniffle*


Well, I'm excited. XD  Though I'm also a little sad to see it end.  Wow, it's been almost a whole year already since it started? O.o  Will see ya'll later in the day.  ;)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Virgofall on October 16, 2015, 04:48:27 PM
Even after seeing the end of episode 24 I still have a trace of doubt that she was able to keep her place at 346 Pro... because Mishiro didn't actually vocalize her decision.
My bets are, for the final ep, that Mishiro DOES [attempt to] fire Uzuki, but a massive backlash either from her fellow idols or fans (or both) will [have the potential to] hurt the company - y'know, THE ONE THING we've established Mishiro DOES care about - forcing Mishiro to take her back. The former wouldn't surprise me one bit (i.e. threats that if Uzuki's fired, the rest of CP leaves too - members of Krone included).

idk that's just my guess though. We'll see what really happens

EDIT: Figured I'd just edit. Theory debunked and I'm glad for it

Also, yay for 5 billion other card refs. And ads that resemble Wii Fit Trainer.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Johnrevenge on October 16, 2015, 06:25:33 PM
Final episode watched and it was amazing (the two new songs were great, I can't wait for the full version of them) and a lot of cameos, unvoiced sadly, but they were all welcome :D
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on October 16, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
Now that the anime is over (possible OVA doesn't count), I can give my final impressions. Just a fiar warning, this is gonna be a lengthy post, but please hear me out.

I am possibly gonna get crucified for saying this, but I think this was slightly better than the 765 anime back in 2011. A-1 improved some things such as the art style, despite the still frames and QUALITY moments (Episode 3....), the story was more of a forefront, and the characters were represented better here than with 2011.

HOWEVER, what I find to be the very thing that hurts Cinderella Girls is that A-1 learned from some mistakes, but not from others, especially the major ones. For one thing, while the characters as a whole were represented better, there was still an issue with screentime. Chieri didn't get too much outside her episodes with Candy Island and Ranko became a background character in Season 2. Also, while the anime made me enjoy and respect characters I previously didn't care much for (Kirari, Miku, Miria, and Uzuki), it also made some characters worse for me. I'm looking more at Rin and Mio, who I felt were kinda........ snobbish in the anime. Season 1 had Mio storm off and quick over her own overestimation and Season 2 had Rin just go on to Project Krone without discussing it with New Generations. Both moves I felt were really bad moments for those characters and made me like them less than what I originally had.

That's another thing I want to get into, the drama. In some weird ways, this was handled better and worse than last time. Better as in some characters took their situations well and I applaud how CG's issues lied withing internal company decisions rather than "KONO KUROI DA!" or what have you. It shows how in reality there are moments where your company will pull shit you disagree with. However, it handled it worse because when the really big moments hit, they drove it too damn far. Need I remind everybody on the overuse of rain? Because, you know, we can't just let the situation speak for itself so let's just make it rain so we can make it obvious to the audience that "this is the part where you're supposed to be sad". It felt so over the top and forced, kinda like Kana's drama in the movie with everyone running in the rain with looks of despair in slow motion (that was so fucking stupid, btw).

I'm also not a fan of this one thing I figured out: A-1 has a formula. Think about it, the first few episodes are never really bad whenever iM@S is done by A-1. They have fairly good beginnings. However, once you get to the middle it starts to go downhill quite a bit, to the point where it CAN get legitimately bad, and then at the end it fixes itself slightly so that it ends up being.... alright. 2011 did that for me, the movie did that for me, and CG was no different.

Overall, I thought the Cinderella Girls anime was okay. It wasn't terrible like what some people would like to preach to you (do not go on /@/ during an anime's run, it gets nasty) but it still feels boggling how A-1 didn't fix the most jarring errors that they had four years ago. I recommend this to anyone as a starting point for Cinderella Girls to get to know the characters, settings, and overall tone and then move to the music and manga and eventually the games (if you have access) and Drama Tracks. But for a veteran CG fan...... you'll probably enjoy it more than a veteran 765 fan would with 2011 but I still say watch at your own risk.

Whew, that was a long one. @_@
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ChocoCats on October 16, 2015, 09:44:00 PM
All the costumes cameos. All the costumes cameos.

In all seriousness, the last episode was... alright. That still frame on the last part of M@GIC was really awkward. The episode's ending is a nice touch though.

MetalPredat0r pretty much sums up my final impressions and I'll add that A-1 still didn't do a great job at developing characters as more than just one-trick ponies. Somehow, they do a slightly better job at representing the characters here than 2011 and I find that a shame. Other than some costumes and that one moment, there's not much fanservice in the whole anime which is pretty surprising.

Overall: Alright, but like a lot of anime, it's an up-and-down coaster so watch at your own risk.  ::)
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on October 16, 2015, 09:59:49 PM
Personally I really loved it from start to finish! Kind of tough to write a story for a mobile game whose characters only seem to receive development through drama CDs. Though I personally saw some of the more drama bombs coming, each episode seemed to surprise me, going against my assumptions and wound up exceeding my expectations. Uzuki's moment gave me the most feels because (if you've seen one of my earlier post) I wound up relating to her the most. Miku's moments made her jump to waifu status in my book. Miria jumped even higher, especially after her sister moment. At first I was more Rika over Mika, but now I LOVE both gal sisters! Anya-chan became my favorite Cool girl among Cinderella Project!

I found TakeuchiP a lot better than AkabaneP. The latter seemed to be just "there." At least TakeuchiP got some development (I think...does Episode 7 count?) and I really found his misunderstanding moments (especially when he gets tied up with the cops) so amusing. I just hope we have an OAV showing off some of the girls in more funny slice-of-life moments.

Then again, I'm no critic and I personally just enjoy the show for what it is.

"KONO KUROI DA!"

I swear, I seem to make that joke way too much...having Kuroi quote Dio. Yeah, because Koyasu. Muda muda.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on October 16, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
I found TakeuchiP a lot better than AkabaneP. The latter seemed to be just "there." At least TakeuchiP got some development (I think...does Episode 7 count?) and I really found his misunderstanding moments (especially when he gets tied up with the cops) so amusing. I just hope we have an OAV showing off some of the girls in more funny slice-of-life moments.

Then again, I'm no critic and I personally just enjoy the show for what it is.

Much more power to you, my friend. I guess I'm just so used to watching reviews and wanting to make reviews myself that I just get into full-on critic mode when it comes to this stuff. You can enjoy the good parts of a given work and I can respect that.

I can't believe I didn't mention TakeuchiP. To be honest, yeah, I agree wholeheartedly that he was more interesting than AkabaneP, although their developments were completely opposite. AkaP was a friendly dude but he wasn't that great at his job, developing more as a Producer. TakeP, on the other hand, is a very professional guy and yet his biggest problem was having trouble with socializing. I think TakeP is more interesting in that his development is closer to the universal iM@S theme of "danketsu" or "togetherness". Plus I can listen to that voice for hours and not get sick of it.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on October 17, 2015, 12:19:14 AM
>no swimsuits

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2zocawx.jpg)

Woes aside, that ended as expected -- a grandeur setting sustained by thunderous applause. More importantly, it left me an open perspective to Cinderella Girls, what with alienation being a key reservation prior to my interest of anything outside 765. As far as Producers go, I'm still partial of AkabaneP since I relate with his dopey courtesy, but TakeuchiP definitely has charm built from the get-go -- the latter has growth more in line with reality, too. He also happens to be easier to make fun of, given those police skits, yet he just won't compare to our lovable PuchiP.

Moving on to antagonists, I'm still on Kuroi's boat solely due to how over-the-top he was; Mishiro on the other hand felt like she was around to subvert the living shit out of things people did or tried doing; it's almost inane, but I'll still give her points for that level of pragmatism. Funnily enough in retrospect, Miku wouldn't last a single hour after that cafe stunt had she-Kuroi been around. For all the gripes people have with this anime, though, here's to Million Live picking up those leftover pieces. I'm interested in exploring that universe proper once the time comes.

Hopefully with swimsuits because my P-side demands it. ;~;
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: mariokirby on October 17, 2015, 01:34:36 AM
I am possibly gonna get crucified for saying this, but I think this was slightly better than the 765 anime back in 2011. A-1 improved some things such as the art style, despite the still frames and QUALITY moments (Episode 3....), the story was more of a forefront, and the characters were represented better here than with 2011.

Well, I actually agree with you on that point.

I’m only a fan of 765pro (plus characters with direct story with them such as Kuroi, Jupiter, and Leon).

Even with this mindset I still find CG anime to be a bit better than the 2011 anime for a few reasons with the biggest reason being that the CG producer is way better than the 2011 producer. 

I find TakeuchiP to be pretty cool even though he has trouble socializing.  Still, I felt he was “closer” to his idols than AkabaneP.    I guess he kind of represents the fairy Godmother.  Plus, he continues to provide emotional support to his idols.

AkabaneP, on the other hand, I find him to be lame and weak (like your typical harem protagonist).   He kind of ruined the anime for me to the point I ranked him lower than the Break manga producer.  Unlike the game producers, he doesn’t provide much direct emotional support for Chihaya.  It was Haruka and the other 765pro idols that did all the work.  So, basically at that moment in the story Haruka was a better producer than AkabaneP himself.  I think the 765pro idols may have been a bit better represented had there been a cooler producer.

Somehow, they do a slightly better job at representing the characters here than 2011 and I find that a shame.

Yes, I agree with that.

I found TakeuchiP a lot better than AkabaneP.

To be honest, yeah, I agree wholeheartedly that he was more interesting than AkabaneP,

 Agreed.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: ZetaFlare on October 17, 2015, 02:58:45 AM
I still can't believe TakeuchiP is voiced by a 17-year-old with that deep voice of his!
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: nastynate on October 17, 2015, 04:54:12 AM
I am possibly gonna get crucified for saying this, but I think this was slightly better than the 765 anime back in 2011.
I haven't heard much from other fans comparing the two, but I would feel that would be the general conscience. They just had more to inject into the story here than with what 765Pro already did in the games and such. I don't think fans would appreciate seeing their favorite 765 character portrayed as selfish and crybabies like what they could get away with with CG idols (and as demonstrated from someone else a couple posts back, you can't win 'em all  ;) ).

It ended they way as anyone would expect. I just wish the climax paid off more. Some great moments, especially the acting and music, so it did its job. Could the story be a little more daring, sure, but with the large cast it had I think they did a pretty good job letting about 89% percent of the idols get a fair amount screen time, and about half of that lot getting a more serious look at during the series.

That said, I can't help but feel slighted by all those still shots of the units during the last 5 minutes of the episode. I really, really wished they has used the previous episode start with the concert and then let the idols have their moments on stage. If you know Overdrive you know they made an OVA based off the bands featured in their visual novels and it was pretty cool. Imagine that with this cast and a respectable budget that they had here. Kohime Muso even had an OVA where they had the characters spent the entire time doing a "live" concert. It was fun.
Just having so many still shots... Hoo boy. It's a tease, at best. I know they're using the anime to sell fans on the music/CDs, but give us a little more fanservice  with the anime on that regard, too.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Nayre on October 17, 2015, 05:38:24 AM
Whew, that was a nice finale!  I liked how well they captured the scope of the concert.  It just felt so grand and really exciting.  Haha, wasn't expecting a new NG song!  Like what. XD  It was quite touching though, especially Mika seeing them off and giving them support like the amazing senpai/role model/oneesan she is.(VIP)  M@GIC was great.  That ginormous sea of UOs made me wanna just dive right in lol.  Good performance.  Good animation.  Good ending.(I know, I'm just exhausted and lazy right now, I'll give a proper afterword or something tomorrow lol)

I am possibly gonna get crucified for saying this, but I think this was slightly better than the 765 anime back in 2011.
I haven't heard much from other fans comparing the two, but I would feel that would be the general conscience.

I'm still seeing a lot of stuff like
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A lot more inferior than the original Idol Master.
but from general viewers tho, not sure about what other actual fans think(other than here)

For me, hmmm...(been trying not to compare the two since they're both really their own thing) Adaptation wise I can't really say.  But for overall enjoyment, I'm gonna say the original cause a lot easier to get into, way less overdramatic, and more satisfying.

>no swimsuits

See, I just knew something was missing!  But I couldn't put my finger on it.  LOL


Idk what's with all this 765P vs 346P stuff, I never really thought of comparing the 2 producers lol.  I always thought of the one from anim@s as more of a projection of the viewer, someone who's role we can just jump into, which is why he was never given any real development and characterization to also allow the the main focus to be on our idols.  So I was never really bothered by his lack of presence; he did his part in offering moral support at time and giving them a nudge down the right path, allowing the girls to solve problems and mature on their own, which I thought was a clever approach. XD


Well, oyasumi...
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Ivan The Mouse on October 17, 2015, 05:53:03 AM
Well, what can I say? Everything I should and would has been said already in this thread and, quite honestly, I dunno if I could say something because I'm outta my brains when I watched the episode. But I'll try.

Of course, I should have expected that this last episode will just be structured as "concert, then the aftermath". I mean, much has been said and done in the past few episodes, and so things should tie up together now. We could see, though, that after everyone just went their own ways and, let's say, "graduated" from the Cinderella Project, there was still those bonds formed during the whole process. It might just be the philistine or plebeian talking from me, but there are some points in the original Cinderella fairy tale that I feel the anime missed, namely her fall after the clock struck midnight. But that's just me.

I could say, though, that Takeuchi-P demonstrated something Akabane-P wasn't able to, for the most part: guts. With the amount that he resisted Miss Mishiro during the last season, that's something I applauded about him. So yeah, this guy is the guy.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Cael K. on December 05, 2015, 02:42:25 AM
Finally got around to finishing the rest of this series. Really glad I was able to ignore the subtitles for the most part - Daisuki subs suck hardcore. But I've said that a billion times by now.

Personally, when the anime got going, I thought it was really good. It took the second season for it to really hit its stride though, namely because the first season had to... I dunno, introduce a whole bunch of characters at once? It was beleaguered by the need to show who each of those characters are, and while it did it a good way, you still have way too many characters to juggle around. Some of the cameos seemed a little forced too, but then... well, you could say that the anime had to pull the weight of the entire franchise on its back. Not an easy feat. I was personally helped by the fact that I already knew some of these cameos and who they were already, but if I weren't I'd probably be like, WTF or something.

So, whatever, I eventually accepted that it had too many characters, and that some of those characters would have more focus than others. We saw it in 2011 Anim@s too, and I accepted it back then. Who it did focus on, it did it well. Personally, I think Anzu got some good time, Triad Primus and New Generations of course, Riina/Miku (and even Natsuki) and Minami/Anastasia. Kanako/Chieri and Mika got okay development, Ranko got a little shafted.

Takeuchi-P was great - he was as much a character as anyone else. At the beginning, you can really see it - he's out of his league. He can't really talk to his idols... or really anyone for that matter, but when Mishiro says she'll destroy all teh idols and stuff, shoot... he bends over backwards to keep 'em going. That's how you bond with folks, lemme tell you.

Mishiro... seemed to me to be the person who represents the ugly side of show business. Ya know, the ruthless ones you always hear tales about, who you don't doubt hold the reins to every real world production out there. So, when Takeuchi-P (and Kaede... and Natsuki... and... there're probably more but we'll leave it at that) say they're not going along with her crap, it makes it more significant. It's the anime telling the audience, "No, that's not where happiness is! Look at Takeuchi-P if you wanna know how to go through life smiling!"

Last thing I wanna say though, is the anime had a certain amount of love and soul put into it. It came out too - there were a bunch of shout-outs to fan canon, sure, but they went even further - some of these became plot points, some became central to certain characters' development. When you think about it, you could say that the fans had some input on how the anime was made. Passive, yes, but it was there - and that's kinda what Cinderella Girls is about.

EDIT: Oh yeah, episode 24 was great. At the very end, when Uzuki sang S(mile)ing!, I was like, "I translated this song! Whoo!" I guess that's kinda how a doujin author would feel. ^_^;;
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Okayu on December 29, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
Episode 26 preview uploaded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrlXsmcL2E
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Freedomzz on December 29, 2015, 06:13:40 PM
This is first time I see Uzuki angry (annoyed?) expression aside from hundred of pics that I too lazy to search.....
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Asuka Ninomiya on March 11, 2016, 07:14:49 PM
Can any kind soul guide me towards the website where I can watch episode 26? lol *^*
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: MetalPredat0r on March 11, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Can any kind soul guide me towards the website where I can watch episode 26? lol *^*

You can probably find a download link for the Raws via a Google search. Can't share a link here since that's against the rules.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Kimiko on March 11, 2016, 07:45:32 PM
Can any kind soul guide me towards the website where I can watch episode 26? lol *^*

search it on nyaa
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Maka on March 11, 2016, 08:58:14 PM
Dude didn't you ask for download links in another thread and get explicitly told that it's against the rules???
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: DeviantProtagonist on March 11, 2016, 09:04:54 PM
I'd let it slide and have him find his way, Maka. No real harm in asking since I find this forum to be more carefree about things.

User activity included.
Title: Re: The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Anime Discussion
Post by: Asuka Ninomiya on March 12, 2016, 05:06:05 PM
Dude didn't you ask for download links in another thread and get explicitly told that it's against the rules???
OMG I SERIOUSLY AM THE BIGGEST STUPID. I AM SORRY!!  :-[