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http://lwp.jp/im6/campaign/static/im6/receipt/

I'm having trouble understanding the requirements for Step 4. Or more accurately, I think I'm reading it right, but the requirement strikes me as absurd. (They POST a confirmation to you via the post office?)

If anyone is in Japan at the moment, and is willing to help carry this out, please let me know (Not likely, but you know...)

The only thing I actually want is the ability to enter the last prize, which is the DLC code for the Mami/Ami Lawson Puppets. I was thinking two im@s green teas would be enough for a decent shot.

It's for very specific purposes, of course.
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No, it has nothing to do with the post office. It's saying basically that you have to make an account to track your points. When you register for an account, they'll send you an email. You have to reply back with an email with a blank body to verify your account.

I live in Japan. Lawson's is literally right across the street from my house. If you need help with registration or want me to buy green teas for you, let me know. I don't have One for All yet and even if I buy it, I have no interest in that DLC.
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No, it has nothing to do with the post office. It's saying basically that you have to make an account to track your points. When you register for an account, they'll send you an email. You have to reply back with an email with a blank body to verify your account.

I live in Japan. Lawson's is literally right across the street from my house. If you need help with registration or want me to buy green teas for you, let me know. I don't have One for All yet and even if I buy it, I have no interest in that DLC.

This, atm im trying to get my friend to do this for us, and he's.... being very uncooperative, if you can do this that would be a great help.

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No, it has nothing to do with the post office. It's saying basically that you have to make an account to track your points. When you register for an account, they'll send you an email. You have to reply back with an email with a blank body to verify your account.

I live in Japan. Lawson's is literally right across the street from my house. If you need help with registration or want me to buy green teas for you, let me know. I don't have One for All yet and even if I buy it, I have no interest in that DLC.

Thanks. I've sent a PM and we can talk about what you need from me in there.

I appreciate it, since this helps my chances of fully compiling the im@s OfA compendium fully.
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OK, sorry for the delay guys. Been a little busy the past few days. I bought some green teas yesterday and tried to redeem the code on the receipt today to see how it worked. I bought 3 green teas (Chihaya, Takane, and Hibiki!) and it gave me 3 codes. I tried to redeem all 3 for the DLC. I figured if I won a code (or more than one), then I could offer it/them to people here that have the game. The way it works is it shows this animation of one of those Japanese lottery wheels, with the colored ball that comes out to tell you if you'll win or not. The problem is, you're not guaranteed a win it seems, even with multiples. I lost on all 3.

I'm actually really shocked at losing on all 3. I have no idea what the probability of winning on this thing is. I figured the chances were high of getting at least 1 code out of the 3 tries because 10,000 codes are going to be given out.
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... Okay, this might be proven harder than I first thought.

Is this going to be one of those things where we'll have to fuel a drinking habit until we turn one of them up?

On the bright side, at least we know we don't have to sit around and wait until later on in the promotion to determine if we got it or not though.

I'm still game to try. The odds shouldn't be THAT bad...
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I'm currently in Japan so if you would still like some assistance, I can try for the DLC code too.

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For the record, I'm old enough to know that I shouldn't say this, but I'm also old enough that I need to taunt Murphy on principle.

Sure, I'll take all the help I can get, considering getting a lousy DLC code to add to the compendium seems to be evading us at the moment.

How hard could it possibly be? (tm)

On a more serious note, I'd take all the help I can get, although I'd honestly like to pay for all these drinks. I just hope it doesn't shoot into the tens of thousands of yen.

If for no other reason than 'Just how in hell is anyone supposed to win any of the better prizes, anyway?'

Although if it DOES shoot out to that much, I'm going to write a STORY about this.

By the way, how much are we down so far cost wise? Let's start doing some accounting.
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Just so you know the Ami Mami item appears to be in game, the only difference is the lawson version has them wearing lawson outfits.

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I'm fully aware - I unlocked all the items when I finished my OfA run earlier.

This is strictly for im@s compendium purposes. I like not having gaps, and I know exactly what I'm asking for, and why.
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Re: Seeking assistance - Trying to figure out the specific requirements.
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2014, 08:36:20 AM »
Roger that!  It sounds like you want to get this DLC for the compendium in any way possible, and are willing to try until we succeed.  I can work with that - at least until the Lawson needs more teas. ;)

It is possible to get points for this campaign by buying a variety of other goods (specifically marked).  The tea bottles seem to be the most cost-effective in terms of codes-for-the-yen though (at least that I have seen so far), which is why I suggested we start there.  Not to mention green tea is awesome ^_^.

The teas are 129 yen each, and we've had three tries, which makes the total investment so far 387 yen.  I'm saving the receipts so it will be possible to provide detailed accounting if needed.
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Re: Seeking assistance - Trying to figure out the specific requirements.
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2014, 08:51:23 AM »
Roger that!  It sounds like you want to get this DLC for the compendium in any way possible, and are willing to try until we succeed.  I can work with that - at least until the Lawson needs more teas. ;)

It is possible to get points for this campaign by buying a variety of other goods (specifically marked).  The tea bottles seem to be the most cost-effective in terms of codes-for-the-yen though (at least that I have seen so far), which is why I suggested we start there.  Not to mention green tea is awesome ^_^.

The teas are 129 yen each, and we've had three tries, which makes the total investment so far 387 yen.  I'm saving the receipts so it will be possible to provide detailed accounting if needed.

I'll preauthorise (Namely, I won't ask any questions, just point me in the direction of where to send the money to you) about spending up to 1548 yen. (That's 12 green tea, and we're 3 down so far.)

I figured if we can't get it in another 9 shots, we've got a story on our hands while I start doing math on our chances, and I get to tell another sad tale about the lengths I go to just to catalog everything.

If you end up getting a second one, I've got an idea what to do with it though...
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Re: Seeking assistance - Trying to figure out the specific requirements.
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2014, 10:33:25 AM »
I'll preauthorise (Namely, I won't ask any questions, just point me in the direction of where to send the money to you) about spending up to 1548 yen. (That's 12 green tea, and we're 3 down so far.)

Sounds good.  I'll PM you more details later on once we conclude the project with a success or a give.

For now I picked up another 8 bottles, for 1032 yen.  This means we now have the whole cast except for Miki, whose bottle they were out of.  I'll try again to pick up that one last authorized bottle another day if we need it.  (so currently: 11 out of 12).

When I got home, I tried four times out of the eight and lost on all.  For now I'm going to bank the remaining four tries we have and spend them a little later, trying different days and times of day.  I have no idea what the algorithm behind winning this thing is, so changing the time of spinning the garapon may or may not help.... but it certainly can't hurt.
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 11:47:16 AM »
Sounds good.  I'll PM you more details later on once we conclude the project with a success or a give.

For now I picked up another 8 bottles, for 1032 yen.  This means we now have the whole cast except for Miki, whose bottle they were out of.  I'll try again to pick up that one last authorized bottle another day if we need it.  (so currently: 11 out of 12).

When I got home, I tried four times out of the eight and lost on all.  For now I'm going to bank the remaining four tries we have and spend them a little later, trying different days and times of day.  I have no idea what the algorithm behind winning this thing is, so changing the time of spinning the garapon may or may not help.... but it certainly can't hurt.

For further fun, you need like

Okay, so if we assume 12 rolls gives enough for a 50% of scoring at least 1...

We're looking at a win rate of roughly 5% per single item, and that's assuming 12 gives a 50/50 chance of scoring 1.

Yep, long odds are fun odds. At 1500ish hundred yen, that's 30 AUD, which is a bit excessive, but I can deal.

The sad part is, I suspect those odds are WAY too high. I get the feeling the win rate on any given spin is 1%, meaning that you have a 12% chance of scoring 1 DLC code with 12 spins of the lottery.

(For calculations, I'm assuming the reverse position (namely the percentage you don't score) and calculating the single route where you fail every time)

The fun part is if you assume that these are the odds across the board.

You'd be buying green tea by the boxes to get enough for 12 tries for the concert. (You'd need 240 green tea for 12 attempts)

That's like 15000 yen, and that only guarantees you anything from under 50% to 12% (At 1% chance per roll) or just 2% (at 0.1% chance per roll) to try and win the grand prize.


The fun part is if you assume a 0.1% chance per roll - Getting 3 times the 240 green tea (Drink it 3 times a day for like 9 months) in points would only just over double your chances (to 4%) of winning.

I'm pretty sure at 48000ish yen, you might as well buy concert tickets yourself. :P
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Re: Seeking assistance - Trying to figure out the specific requirements.
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2014, 12:23:43 PM »
Ah, but it gets better!   The concert prize is super-exclusive and you can't simply buy tickets to this particular show.  It's being held at Shimokitazawa Garden, which is a small SMALL venue that I've actually been to before to see Kanon Wakeshima.   The 450 winners will be the entirety of the audience, and Garden is going to be jammed like a rush hour train with that many people in it.  But the benefit is that you'll get to see the seiyuu up-close and personal, and look them in the eyes during the show.  Normally iM@S shows are only held at 8,000+ person arenas (Makuhari, Saitama, etc), so this will be a very different experience for the super fans who win.

My family opened two of the teas to have with dinner.  Amusingly, there's a hidden manga drawing of the bottle's character on the inside of the label for each one.

Takane says: "After you eat ramen, follow it up with some Namacha. Huhu!"

 (Kirin Namacha is the kind of tea the girls are on)
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